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the-valueman
19 Aug 15 14:35
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this forum isn't busy like it used to be so posting this on here as well as general
hi Koo
remember The Magician, me you and 4 others did a comp to see who could work with him we put a grand in each......and I won it.
does it ring any bells, message me please I have got something you might be able to help me with / interested in, the similar system ( only better ) I was using with the Magician proofed making 14% / 15% per day yield on Horse racing  through betting assistant, doing roughly the same as I did with The Magician backing and laying.
I'm needing someone with some VBA / Excel skills to fix a few tiny bugs with and some cash to invest
cheers dave (Micky Biggs )
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Report casemoney August 19, 2015 2:49 PM BST
Thought I seen the Magician on TV at Towcester dog  races Last Night Plain
Report the-valueman August 19, 2015 2:55 PM BST
lol... maybe you did
Report Lex August 19, 2015 2:59 PM BST
Wasnt he the same guy who played the Hulk? Bill Bixby?
Report the-valueman August 19, 2015 2:59 PM BST
he might wish he was Cool
Report stewarts rise August 19, 2015 3:22 PM BST
The Magician 100 dissapeared off here imo!
Report onlooker August 19, 2015 3:26 PM BST
Didn't the Magician clean up, last season, on that new 'Football Million' Accumulator bet? - with Coralls?

Not to mention his earlier Scoop6 successes.
Report the-valueman August 19, 2015 6:15 PM BST
yes he won the scoop 6... 3 times I think and the bonus when there was big pots, he thought nothing of investing 70k / 80k to win it
he is a merchant banker and it was just a hobby for him....lol
It was working with him that got my ideas for the betting strategy I have now, and even he would be impressed with 14/15% yield per day
Report the-valueman August 21, 2015 12:53 PM BST
anybody ...please
Report Lex August 21, 2015 12:58 PM BST
14/15% yield per day  - so you double your bank every week???? Laugh
Report Deltâ August 21, 2015 1:01 PM BST
you on twitter valueman?
Report the-valueman August 22, 2015 7:49 AM BST
hi delta
no but send me a private message or a contact request if you like  not sure how you do it though
Report the-valueman August 22, 2015 7:55 AM BST
I aren't going to argue with you Lex but I have all the data to back up my claim, and not 14%/15% every week that's an average but over the whole time period, which is what it's all about 1087% in about last 85days
10July18%.xlsm    18%
10June30%.xlsm    30%
11August22%.xlsm    22%
11June-39%.xlsm    -39%
11May-31%.xlsm    -31%
11thJuly27%.xlsm    27%
12August15%.xlsm    15%
12June-19%.xlsm    -19%
12May43%.xlsm    43%
13August-60%.xlsm    -60%
13July-5.2%.xlsm    2%
14August34%.xlsm    34%
14July3%.xlsm    3%
14June176%.xlsm    176%
14May67%.xlsm    67%
15August16%.xlsm    16%
15July23%.xlsm    23%
15May129%.xlsm    129%
16July27%.xlsm    27%
16June35%.xlsm    35%
17August75%.xlsm    75%
17July68%.xlsm    68%
17June71%.xlsm    71%
18August-33%.xlsm    -33%
18July7%.xlsm    7%
18June23.4%.xlsm    4%
18May-39%.xlsm    -39%
19August-31%.xlsm    -31%
19June-1.5%.xlsm    5%
19May-14%.xlsm    -14%
1August69%.xlsm    69%
1June0.2%.xlsm    2%
1stJuly8.2%.xlsm    2%
20August-10%.xlsm    -10%
20July-9%.xlsm    -9%
20June-45%.xlsm    -45%
20May104%.xlsm    104%
21August23%.xlsm    23%
21July24%.xlsm    24%
21June-35%.xlsm    -35%
21May-22%.xlsm    -22%
22August16.2%.xlsm    2%
22July21%.xlsm    21%
23June48%.xlsm    48%
23May2%.xlsm    2%
24May332%.xlsm    332%
25May-4%.xlsm    -4%
26May-34%.xlsm    -34%
26thJuly-19.2%.xlsm    2%
27July8%.xlsm    8%
27June-13%.xlsm    -13%
27May-33%.xlsm    -33%
28June6%.xlsm    6%
28May17%.xlsm    17%
29July51%.xlsm    51%
29June-36%.xlsm    -36%
29May4%.xlsm    4%
2August10%.xlsm    10%
2July67%.xlsm    67%
30July14%.xlsm    14%
30June-38%.xlsm    -38%
30May34%.xlsm    34%
31July-16%.xlsm    -16%
3August19%.xlsm    19%
3June-48%.xlsm    -48%
3rdJuly-60.2%.xlsm    2%
4August-27%.xlsm    -27%
4June66%.xlsm    66%
5August-33%.xlsm    -33%
5July-23%.xlsm    -23%
5June5%.xlsm    5%
6July-39%.xlsm    -39%
6June32%.xlsm    32%
7August-71%.xlsm    -71%
7July-8%.xlsm    -8%
7June-2%.xlsm    -2%
8August-38%.xlsm    -38%
8July-32%.xlsm    -32%
8June-14%.xlsm    -14%
9August-12%.xlsm    -12%
9July33%.xlsm    33%
9May71%.xlsm    71%
july4th28%.xlsm    28%
Total    1087%
Report the-valueman August 22, 2015 7:56 AM BST
sorry that didn't paste right good ( you get the general drift though )but it is a brief summary of the data results, I obviously have the full workbooks with all proof of the selections and data, results
Report saddo August 22, 2015 10:27 AM BST
Serious q. You have a system which makes money quickly, why do you need a financial backer?
Report swift-tuttle August 22, 2015 11:02 AM BST
aye saddo that question always gets 'em
Report the-valueman August 22, 2015 11:04 AM BST
interesting question saddo
1....Because I need to be kept on the straight and narrow I enjoy betting and it isn't the same fun after collecting all the data then letting an automated system run things, and having a partner to invest will keep me focused.
2....It needs a couple of bugs in the excel, VBA part where it scrapes data from subscribed sites that don't have csv options, I probably have invested 10k over 10 / 15 years developing ,amending testing, collecting data and keep paying different guys on freelancer to do some coding which they do to there best but because they don't understand betting it is hard to get through what I mean, having a partner investor who does VBA / excel will mean that any ongoing development will be in house and done by someone who understands what we need
3....I want to get a website going to sell the info / system and maybe a syndicate
4.....you needed to give me more time Swift-tuttle I was compiling the answer....
Report the-valueman August 22, 2015 11:25 AM BST
sorry I was interrupted by swift-tuttle
5.... would share the time and the cost needed to collect the data because I only do this part time,
6....another brain might see something I am missing that would improve the yield even more
7....and the reason for an investor is to get commitment from a partner otherwise any body could come on join with me and take the system or not put any effort into something I have spent 10 / 15 yrs or so testing improving tweaking, which is why I was wanting to contact The Magician because he has contacts to run with this and the same with Koo they would both understand how this works
Report mmmalushka August 22, 2015 11:26 AM BST
is this you?

Ok , Here is the weekly update for the "Micky Biggs Racing Syndicate". I have the selections for the last seven days
starting from Friday the 16th April. Micky provides selections for horse racing and gives a points advice for each
selection ranging from 1 to 12. I have used a fictional bank of £500 and will stake the Betfair minimum of £2 per point.
Any returns will be to Betfair SP as no price advice is given.

Starting Bank £500
16/04/2010 2.35 Ayr Chanibar 6 pts Unplaced -12 £488
16/04/2010 4.00 Ayr Diklers Oscar 4 pts Unplaced -8 £480
16/04/2010 7.20 Cheltenham River Indus 5 pts Unplaced -10 £470
16/04/2010 7.50 Cheltenham Olympian 4 pts Unplaced -8 £462
17/04/2010 2.40 Ayr First point 3 pts Unplaced -6 £456
17/04/2010 3.20 Ayr Scots dragoon 3 pts Unplaced -6 £450
17/04/2010 3.20 Ayr Killyglen 3 pts Unplaced -6 £444
18/04/2010 3.10 Ascot Blazing buck 4 pts Unplaced -8 £436
18/04/2010 4.05 Stratford Ready to crown 3 pts Unplaced -6 £430
18/04/2010 4.05 Stratford Zahra's place 1 pt Unplaced -2 £428
18/04/2010 4.20 Ascot Cool roxy 2 pts Unplaced -4 £424
18/04/2010 4.55 Ascot Mith hill 5 pts Unplaced -10 £414
18/04/2010 5.15 Stratford Nicky nutjob 2 pts Unplaced -4 £410
19/04/2010 {No Selections}
20/04/2010 6.05 Punch Forpadydeplaster 7 pts 2nd -14 £396
21/04/2010 2.20 Epsom Fol hollow 4 pts Unplaced -8 £388
21/04/2010 4.05 Epsom Totally focussed 2 pts Unplaced -4 £384
21/04/2010 4.30 Perth Emergency exit 5 pts Unplaced -10 £374
21/04/2010 5.20 Southwell Chicago alley 5 pts NR £374
22/04/2010 4.55 Perth Hearthstead drea 4 pts 3rd -8 £366

So after 7 days
17 Selections
0 winners
0% Win strike rate
-67 points to staking advice
£500 starting bank now £366
Report the-valueman August 22, 2015 11:45 AM BST
your right there mmmalushka yes that was me about 7/8 years since and moved on since then obviously, and you did pick a particularly bad week...,
the system has changed totally since then as I have explained above, you could also look on the now defunct betting league and see I was top with about 450% profit in 3 months, but there are peeks and troughs with any betting
In the above 2 examples that was backing 1 horse from my own knowledge and expertise.....
this system is automated, only does handicaps  and has no human influence what so ever other than collecting the data and inputting,which is why it works well, the Computer doesn't get out of bed feeling lousy and picking bad selections it selects the stake, the number of horses and the races we back 1 / 2 3 horses and maybe lay 3/4 in the same race depending on number of runners which is all done by the program
Report dj876 August 22, 2015 11:54 AM BST
I thought begging wasn't allowed on the BF Forum, moderators should be deleting the likes of this rather than threads that mention the untouchables.
Report the-valueman August 22, 2015 12:02 PM BST
where is the begging dj I was asking if anyone new where The Magician or Koo was and REPLYING to some questions
Report roida August 22, 2015 12:04 PM BST
is this the betfair dragons den?
Report the-valueman August 22, 2015 12:04 PM BST
lol
Report dj876 August 22, 2015 12:05 PM BST
I'm needing someone with some VBA / Excel skills to fix a few tiny bugs with and some cash to invest
Report the-valueman August 22, 2015 12:06 PM BST
that was for The Magician and Koo no one else, sorry if you misinterpreted that
Report roida August 22, 2015 12:06 PM BST
if the system makes 10% a week im in...if its like the 2010 system im out.
Report mmmalushka August 22, 2015 12:12 PM BST
this was the final week of the trialUpdate after the last week , another week and another 13 losers to add to the list:

24/05/2010 6.40 Windsor First Post 3pts Unplaced -6 £308
24/05/2010 7.10 Windsor Sometsuke 7pts Unplaced -14 £294
25/05/2010 2.40 Ripon Castlebury 4pts Unplaced -8 £286
25/05/2010 3.10 Ripon Jupiter Fidius5pts Unplaced -10 £276
25/05/2010 6.50 Huntington Alaghiraar 7pts Unplaced -14 £262
25/05/2010 8.35 Hexam Storm Prospect 6pts Unplaced -12 £250
26/05/2010 {No Selections} £250
27/05/2010 6.50 Wetherby Authentic Act 10pts3rd -20 £230
27/05/2010 8.40 Newcastle Hotham 4pts 3rd -8 £222
27/05/2010 8.50 Sandown Ballintelli 2ps/3pts pl Unplaced -10 £212
28/05/2010 4.05 Newmarket One way or an'7pts Unplaced -14 £198
28/05/2010 6.20 Stratford Take a mile 12pts Unplaced -24 £174
28/05/2010 7.00 Pontefract Embsay Crag 10pts Unplaced -20 £154
28/05/2010 8.00 Pontefract Sweet child o'5pts Unplaced -10 £144
29/05/2010 {No Selections} £144
30/05/2010 {No Selections} £144

So after 23 days:
57 Selections
3 Winners
5% Win strike rate
-178 Points to staking advice
£500 starting bank now £144

thats the start and finish sorry I cant be more selective.
Report roida August 22, 2015 12:18 PM BST
ahhh...same it stopped..loked to be picking up.
Report chavman August 22, 2015 12:22 PM BST
there was definite potential.......for massive losses
Report GLASGOWCALLING August 22, 2015 12:23 PM BST
57 selections.

  3 winners.

     ....     system needs a bit of fine tuning and we should be in the money.   Happy
Report the-valueman August 22, 2015 12:23 PM BST
not getting into an argument with mmmalushka,rioda  and chavman all the figures you have pasted are correct....
but THINK about why Faz the owner of the site took it on, because he had seen the results for himself and new they were good, a free trial is always a bad way to go, sods law and all that. Did you also look for The betting league ....
And as I have said the system is not in any way the same not my personal selections from studying form but the computers selections and stakes from collating all the data and interpreting
Report the-valueman August 22, 2015 12:24 PM BST
sorry glasgowcalling missed you out....Blush
Report dunlaying August 22, 2015 12:26 PM BST
Crooser again?
Report GLASGOWCALLING August 22, 2015 12:26 PM BST
    sorry glasgowcalling missed you out...


  ..  best news ive had all morning.   GrinGrin
Report the-valueman August 22, 2015 12:28 PM BST
lighten up guys have a laugh look for me the-valueman on YouTube particularly the one with the red hat on ...and enjoy
Report dunlaying August 22, 2015 12:28 PM BST
Laugh
Report the-valueman August 22, 2015 12:29 PM BST
I could be a YouTube sensation Cool
Report GLASGOWCALLING August 22, 2015 12:31 PM BST
Shocked  video..  with red hat on ???   was called NODDY in my days. !!
Report the-valueman August 22, 2015 12:31 PM BST
you must be as old as me then Glasgow Excited
Report swift-tuttle August 22, 2015 12:33 PM BST
hi valueman
I've read your answer(s) to saddo's question
they don't quite hang together for me

good luck though

hope your average 17/18% yield per day continues
Report Irish are lucky August 22, 2015 12:35 PM BST
Hi

I will make you an offer

25 pounds for 95% of the business
Report the-valueman August 22, 2015 12:35 PM BST
no worries Swift 14/15% not 17/18% and thanks
Report the-valueman August 22, 2015 12:35 PM BST
Irish...can I go to the back of the room to think about it
Report the-valueman August 22, 2015 12:36 PM BST
ok Irish I've thought about it Confused
Report the-valueman August 22, 2015 12:37 PM BST
would you consider 94% and splitting it with another dragon
Report the-valueman August 22, 2015 12:37 PM BST
not sure what you could bring to the party
Report Irish are lucky August 22, 2015 12:40 PM BST
Yes

I bring the €€€€ and i know how many legs a horse has, or i have an advanced excel course i paid 59 dollars for anever used
Report the-valueman August 22, 2015 12:43 PM BST
sorry don't take euro Grin
Report the-valueman August 22, 2015 12:44 PM BST
didn't have a sign for euro on my pc Laugh
Report Deltâ August 22, 2015 12:45 PM BST


alt cntrl and 4 all together
Report sofiakenny August 22, 2015 12:46 PM BST
I will offer you £3.50 for 5% of the business.
Report the-valueman August 22, 2015 12:46 PM BST
that's getting closer but a value of £70 mmmmSurprised
Report the-valueman August 22, 2015 12:48 PM BST
maybe sofia and Irish can get together = 100% and find a partner because nothing in it for me when their taking 100% between em
Report the-valueman August 22, 2015 12:48 PM BST
so I'm out but can I wish you good luck Grin
Report roida August 22, 2015 10:05 PM BST
Report saddo August 22, 2015 10:29 PM BST
€uro
Report big aitch August 23, 2015 10:07 AM BST
Micky, you seem to have a problem with basic maths, 2010 to 2015 isn't 7 or 8 years, it's 5.

This may be a reason why you are having problems.

I remember you spamming the forum 10 or 11 years ago, back in 2011, you used to put up 5 or 6 lays and 2 or 3 backs per race, some races you did well, others not so. Wasn't the overall trend just under break even?
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