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Imaginary World 6.40 Southwell.
Nothing else to add except this is fully expected to win and WILL get very well backed indeed!
Have a great Monday.
Nothing else to add except this is fully expected to win and WILL get very well backed indeed!
Have a great Monday.
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Take it if you fancy trying as definitely won't go off at 20-1. GL
Just as a matter of interest crooser, where did you get the info from?
Not a criticism merely an observation , but the frequency of your tips must have doubled versus a year ago. Any particular reason Crooser? GL today.
Good bloke I used to work with who still works in (unlike me) and is very well connected in racing.
Can't say much more koikeeper but hope that's enough.
Can't say much more koikeeper but hope that's enough.
Tips haven't doubled. My posts might have but most are just fancies - unlike this one. Plus, away soon for 3 weeks so trying while I can before heading off.
It will obv come right eventually and a winner will appear (may even be this one) but good god fellers - have you seen the drift on most of 'croosers' tips? His 'sure this will be backed'astaement is pretty funny considering - put it this way if this was a 'mark your card for horses that will drift' themed tip it would have an impressive record so far. Well done on the win when it eventually comes............
Gets his tips off some bloke who was born in a stable...
spyker - you seem to stalk these posts. Get a life or try posting a few tips yourself instead of just mocking.
Manderson - why don't you go over 'croosers' threads and see just how much i post on them, i think maybe 3 times in the last week? If you do read his threads, when you're doing that why not note the price he advises them at and then price they start and tell me i'm talking nonsense. Go on, i dare you! 'Merry Me 'was well backed (which i said had a great chance) but other than that I'm struggling to remember any that were 'heavily backed' as 'crooser' advised they would be. Please prove me wrong.
You will also see that i have given the odd tip, a couple winning when heavily backed - unlike 'croosers'. I do post the odd tip in my own threads but not very often, I'm confident that (pretty much) all of them have been backed, not all win but they are usually unexposed types with the future in mind I noted that 'Rocket Punch' was worth looking at before it's first run and it subsequently won 2 races. No 'my mate says' or any other b/s.
Why don't you wake up and smell the coffee - no forget that, carry on as you were. You never know, this tip by somebody you don't know on an anonymous forum might even be backed and it might even win for you!
You will also see that i have given the odd tip, a couple winning when heavily backed - unlike 'croosers'. I do post the odd tip in my own threads but not very often, I'm confident that (pretty much) all of them have been backed, not all win but they are usually unexposed types with the future in mind I noted that 'Rocket Punch' was worth looking at before it's first run and it subsequently won 2 races. No 'my mate says' or any other b/s.
Why don't you wake up and smell the coffee - no forget that, carry on as you were. You never know, this tip by somebody you don't know on an anonymous forum might even be backed and it might even win for you!
* I advised to back at 12's i think, went in to 2's and started at 9-2, lost but won next 2.
Fantastic response - go on look at some of the drifts the last 2 weeks - they have been rather spectacular! I hope this wins for you as you are probably pretty desperate for a winner by the sounds of it. Good luck.
spyker would much rather you be like paul the b and give a shedfull of short priced horses
Somebody else has put up the jolly as the banker of the day.
Fwiw the only bet I've had today is Hallings Comet in the last at Windsor. Price has gone now but still a little wriggle room - 'crossers' players are obv keeping their cash in their pockets until late for the I.W gamble no doubt.
imaginary world..............zipper,skinto,zodiac,fraudy,bignart
Well I must admit I have to agree with you this time spyker.
Wintle's runner looks to be Crowley's best chance tonight, so Good Luck!
Wintle's runner looks to be Crowley's best chance tonight, so Good Luck!
Never backed it but hope it runs well for you.....If its not in the frame you look a bit of a plonker though.
needs a good break from that stallgate 1,been slow away a few times..good luck
Nothing else to add except this is fully expected to win and WILL get very well backed indeed!
16>>>36
16>>>36
Those in the know driving the price out with weight of money innit.
I've backed it Crooser, I've got a feeling I'll be on here in five minutes congratulating you! 
There'll be another day.
Better draw and would have been placed for sure but hey ho.
Better draw and would have been placed for sure but hey ho.
Jul 27, 2015 -- 8:06AM, crooser wrote:
Good bloke I used to work with who still works in (unlike me) and is very well connected in racing.Can't say much more koikeeper but hope that's enough.
now this **** is a deluded donut xx
better draw? he had the plumb inside draw. Last 3 furlongs clear run, treading water.
Didn't win and wasn't backed.
Thanks for the tips etc on here crooser, but that's it for me.
Didn't win and wasn't backed.
Thanks for the tips etc on here crooser, but that's it for me.
Better draw and would have been placed for sure but hey ho.
cant see how you can possibly think that but hey ho its all about opinions
cant see how you can possibly think that but hey ho its all about opinions
You obviously enjoy putting up big-priced tips on the forum, there's no problem with that, just don't mislead people into thinking you have any connections with yards. You have about as many connections to yards as my dog does*.
*he ran off once and I don't live far from Lawney Hill, so he might actually have one connection more than you.
*he ran off once and I don't live far from Lawney Hill, so he might actually have one connection more than you.
Anyone else notice that SDS won the SDS 60th birthday handicap
Fancied a horse at big odds and saw Crooser tipped him up too. Was like wow, been kind of following him since, gotta say I'm out permanently but GL Crooser
Why didn't your 'guy' connected to the John Balding yard let you know Showboating was going to win by ten lengths?
Guys, he's putting up BIG PRICED selections, there will be LONG losing runs (I feel like ONLOOKER using caps for specific words!). The bookies say most of his tips have between a 2-5% chance of winning. I don't back all that many of his tips, (I used to) but when I do I couldn't give a sh1t if it loses, they're supposed to at these prices.
I have noticed that your wording of your opening posts are bordering on cringe worthy though Crooser, and I can (almost) understand why people feel a bit duped. Leave the spiel to the Paul's of the forum.
I also think you should go back to talking about yourself in the third person! I think that'll get a winner at Goodwood.
I have noticed that your wording of your opening posts are bordering on cringe worthy though Crooser, and I can (almost) understand why people feel a bit duped. Leave the spiel to the Paul's of the forum.
I also think you should go back to talking about yourself in the third person! I think that'll get a winner at Goodwood.
Confident tip but losing outcome... yeah maybe it should have had less bravado but I do feel sorry for Crooser as he is tipping at higher odds average and it is a needle in a haystack stuff mixed in with quantity not quality tipping everyday which is tough ...
But tipping is a ruthless game when your losing... that's for sure... I think it will be a learning curve for crooser and his tipping will turn a corner... id continue crooser and ignore the negativity....
But tipping is a ruthless game when your losing... that's for sure... I think it will be a learning curve for crooser and his tipping will turn a corner... id continue crooser and ignore the negativity....
fully expected to win and WILL get very well backed indeed!
thats where he's going wrong..totally misleading.
thats where he's going wrong..totally misleading.
Reminds me of the strap lines from those tipping lines on teletext from years ago.
Next it'll be ' I've a right dark horse plotted to beat the bookies at Donny' :D
Next it'll be ' I've a right dark horse plotted to beat the bookies at Donny' :D
Opinions or Tips.
Tips or Opinions.
The op must clarify imo...
Tips or Opinions.
The op must clarify imo...
Crooser gave a horse that had very little form and I know (though I did not at the time)that it was fancied and it did make me wonder if he has connections. I will keep an eye on the stables his tips come from. Anyway good luck crooser win or lose your not hurting anyone.
Just to clarify though if I have inside info I'm not sharing it on an anonymous forum, though I will my opinion.
Just to clarify though if I have inside info I'm not sharing it on an anonymous forum, though I will my opinion.
His 'tips' come from pretty much any stable, all over the U.K and Eire and judging by the amount that the majority drift by, somebody is making a lot of money laying them! I'd be astounded if he (or anybody for that matter) can't find a silly priced horse this week (at G/W) that isn't gambled on at the very least, let alone grab a place or god forbid actually win. Go on Crooser get the tarot cards out!
Imaginary World doesn't know when she's gonna win....
The horse ran today off a 12lb lower mark than its last win less than a year ago, had not run in a class six for over two years its also a C & D winner, friendless in the market & you do yourself no favours hugging that far rail in the straight at Southwell, beaten today around seven lengths, could certainly be winning sooner rather than later.
Jul 27, 2015 -- 8:40PM, roida wrote:
fully expected to win and WILL get very well backed indeed!thats where he's going wrong..totally misleading.
blimey im in full agreement with you on this roida gl m8.
A lot of posts to wade through, some fair, others showing all the signs of people who fail to appreciate that a profit is not easily achieved working with the price range the OP prefers to play.
I have to agree that the wording of some of the OP's posts have been poorly written, maybe a touch of him getting carried away with his own success, never a good path to go down though as it provokes resentment and leads to abuse when a bad run is hit. Straightforward to the point posts would be preferable, no hype is required.
Too many people are posting without looking at the full picture though, I accept that some may have only started backing the OP's tips after he hit a successful run but that is their thought, not his, to rate him or evaluate his worth, you have to judge him over a period of time as you should with all people prepared to go public with their thoughts/information.
We are nearly at the end of the 7th month of the year and for that period the OP is still showing a healthy profit to a 1 unit level stake under all categories ie advised price, BSP and returned Industry price. Review the tipsters tables and you will see that there are a fair few who would love to be in such a position at 31/7/2015.
There will always be long blank runs, that is the cold hard fact of playing at long prices, the current run of losers stands at 14 and looking at recent activity, 14 selections in a 9 day period suggests to me the OP is trying too hard to find the next winner to appease those who have started to doubt him, he would be much better off reverting to type and posting less often, in the first 3 months of the year he averaged 12 selections per month, but in the second quarter has increased the number to an average of 25, largely I suspect on the back of the hype he received when hitting a few high priced winners in a short period of time.
In summary, I believe it is up to each individual to choose whether to play the OP's tips but any judgement on him needs to be made after a 12 month review not just on a few that an individual might have backed and lost on.
I have to agree that the wording of some of the OP's posts have been poorly written, maybe a touch of him getting carried away with his own success, never a good path to go down though as it provokes resentment and leads to abuse when a bad run is hit. Straightforward to the point posts would be preferable, no hype is required.
Too many people are posting without looking at the full picture though, I accept that some may have only started backing the OP's tips after he hit a successful run but that is their thought, not his, to rate him or evaluate his worth, you have to judge him over a period of time as you should with all people prepared to go public with their thoughts/information.
We are nearly at the end of the 7th month of the year and for that period the OP is still showing a healthy profit to a 1 unit level stake under all categories ie advised price, BSP and returned Industry price. Review the tipsters tables and you will see that there are a fair few who would love to be in such a position at 31/7/2015.
There will always be long blank runs, that is the cold hard fact of playing at long prices, the current run of losers stands at 14 and looking at recent activity, 14 selections in a 9 day period suggests to me the OP is trying too hard to find the next winner to appease those who have started to doubt him, he would be much better off reverting to type and posting less often, in the first 3 months of the year he averaged 12 selections per month, but in the second quarter has increased the number to an average of 25, largely I suspect on the back of the hype he received when hitting a few high priced winners in a short period of time.
In summary, I believe it is up to each individual to choose whether to play the OP's tips but any judgement on him needs to be made after a 12 month review not just on a few that an individual might have backed and lost on.
^^ 148 tips with 4 winners
I remember a 50/1+ winner. Not a chance youd be able to get a decent stake on that. If you missed 1 of the 4 winners youd be running at a massive loss
I remember a 50/1+ winner. Not a chance youd be able to get a decent stake on that. If you missed 1 of the 4 winners youd be running at a massive loss
CL - what is your opinion on advising to back at 20/16 ('will definitely be backed') and it starts 40's etc, not once but consistently, time after time, with the odd 1 being backed? As i've said before a big part of backing at these prices is identifying horses that are too long and will be backed to a degree. Having said a few week ago that the jury was out as far as i'm concerned his record this past 2 weeks has made me change my mind and he's a guesser (whoever he is). That is using all the info, not just p+l with a lucky big priced winner - as Glass office is looking more and more like.
I'll read your answer and then I'm pretty much done with this as it's bleeding obvious where this is going - I'm sure 'crooser' will reveal all soon.......
I'll read your answer and then I'm pretty much done with this as it's bleeding obvious where this is going - I'm sure 'crooser' will reveal all soon.......
Also, along with a few other losers an ew yankee was 'advised' late last week (1 was 3rd i think) so i presume that takes 22 'points' out of the p+l?
spyker.........every one is a guesser.........no one knows the result of a race
spyker, I believe he needs to address his approach as I said above, odds wise I have 7 from the last 50 starting at a higher industry SP than the advised price which I don't think is a significant number.
I honestly think the guy is trying to hard now which is why he is failing, like many others I'm sure, I learn't a long time ago that often you need to pass on most days and wait for those special days when something stands out and gets the adrenaline pulsing through your veins in anticipation, these are few and far between and not as often as we would all like but that is why they are the exceptions, I feel of late the OP is putting them up as a matter of course just hoping to hit the jackpot, rather than expecting to.
I haven't included the yankee in my calculations as to be honest that is not a selection to me, but if it were included the lowest profit to a level stake would be reduced to +30.
zazu, not sure where you got those stats from as Jan to date it is 12/134, and if anyone missed any of the winners that cannot be blamed on the OP, that responsibility is with the individual, like any selection facility you need to follow it religiously, if you don't, then you do not have the right to judge or complain about it as you do not have the full facts at your disposal, which is the main problem on here, most people come on board after a few successful plays are brought to their attention and then crib when a losing run is experienced.
cardifffc, would agree that we are all guessers to an extent, a few have privileged information admittedly, but it is important to recognise the need to differentiate between recreational plays and real bets, which often becomes a grey area with most people, as they lack the discipline required to keep their stakes in check.
I honestly think the guy is trying to hard now which is why he is failing, like many others I'm sure, I learn't a long time ago that often you need to pass on most days and wait for those special days when something stands out and gets the adrenaline pulsing through your veins in anticipation, these are few and far between and not as often as we would all like but that is why they are the exceptions, I feel of late the OP is putting them up as a matter of course just hoping to hit the jackpot, rather than expecting to.
I haven't included the yankee in my calculations as to be honest that is not a selection to me, but if it were included the lowest profit to a level stake would be reduced to +30.
zazu, not sure where you got those stats from as Jan to date it is 12/134, and if anyone missed any of the winners that cannot be blamed on the OP, that responsibility is with the individual, like any selection facility you need to follow it religiously, if you don't, then you do not have the right to judge or complain about it as you do not have the full facts at your disposal, which is the main problem on here, most people come on board after a few successful plays are brought to their attention and then crib when a losing run is experienced.
cardifffc, would agree that we are all guessers to an extent, a few have privileged information admittedly, but it is important to recognise the need to differentiate between recreational plays and real bets, which often becomes a grey area with most people, as they lack the discipline required to keep their stakes in check.
even information is a guess.........its a better informed guess probably but unless the info is that the horse is not trying.....then i will concede that is not a guess
this guy showed me his bet one day..........it was 2 x 5 horse accas.......4 horses won and in the 5th leg he had 2 horses in the same race.....the 2 11\10 joint jolies in a 3 horse race........he had about 70 nicker running on both........the outsider of 3 beat them both.....i tried to point out he was betting the both at somelike 10s on but it went over his head
i told you idiots ages ago
Crosser aka guesser
anyone following these tips would of long gone broke
Crosser aka guesser
anyone following these tips would of long gone broke
Incorrect Sir bet editor, but don't let the facts get in the way of your wish to rubbish the OP, no one is likely to believe any words from you anyway given your past history on here, hardly an innocent are you....?
Why would I want to block you...?
All you do is make yourself a laughing stock with your ill informed ramblings, so feel free to continue to your hearts content, I am more than happy to let people make their own minds up to the value of your posts.
All you do is make yourself a laughing stock with your ill informed ramblings, so feel free to continue to your hearts content, I am more than happy to let people make their own minds up to the value of your posts.
Spyker, how can you deduct 22 points for an E/W Yankee? Nobody (who has any sense) bets that amount on a Yankee, they reduce their stakes considerably. A £10 a point punter who backs Yankee's isn't going to stake £220 on one, much more likely £22 or £44 imo.
SIR_Bond 28 Jul 15 14:27
i told you idiots ages ago
Crosser aka guesser
anyone following these tips would of long gone broke
I believe you were swooning all over crooser when you backed a one that had won... tut tut
i told you idiots ages ago
Crosser aka guesser
anyone following these tips would of long gone broke
I believe you were swooning all over crooser when you backed a one that had won... tut tut
Cl, prob best not to include the yankee - i quite agree with you - and soz but 7/50 being longer than advertised is nonsense as practically every 1 (even in the yankee i think) has been longer the last 2 weeks, much so in many cases. Kembo - so how would you include the yankee to fit the figs then?
Oh hang on all this is irrelevant now isn't it? Silly me
Oh hang on all this is irrelevant now isn't it? Silly me
spyker, it is there in b&w in front of me, 7/50 advised price against returned industry price, if it were advised price against BSP then it jumps to 23/50
Cl - quite frankly i don't care as i said earlier this silly (oft repeated) episode in the forums history is drawing to a close - hastened by carelessness by crooser/M5/and the mystery forumite who is all these characters (and more!). I was going to let the silly charade carry on for a few more holes to be dug but never mind. See ya.
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