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Ante post backers still cooked I take it?
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ante post cancelled on day of race
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Betfair have settled my lay bet on Heavens Guest (backed it at 16/1 with Ladbrokes) without reducing it for Speculative Bid being an official non-runner, and have settled my win bet on Specualtive Bid as a loser???? Surely that is wrong???
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It was one of the two I backed in the race and still shows as a loser on my Betfair account. I also had it in an Exacta and Tricast and in multiple bets.
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^ Should add all above bets placed after final declarations.
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a real headache for anyone who did a B2L on the winner.. I hope you were well clear of the R4...
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Reg. R4 applies to price at time of withdrawal, not what it was when you placed the bet.
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Just contacted Betfair who have stated that it's a N/R on their Sportsbook but a runner on the exchange
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Is there anything official from the stewards about this? I telephoned a bookmaker and they said it came under orders.
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all markets on Bf are settled based on the offical result, if its officially a NR then the market HAS to be resettled.
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Carnage.
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This is surely an example of when the bookies hide behind rule 4 and settle as per their best interests.
Horse was 10/1 this morning when bets placed on heavens guest at 12/1 yet only 4/1 when declared a non runner. Either a 20p or a 5p deduction. I know which one they will be choosing. |
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withdraw.. withdraw lol
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so what happens with ante post bets - are they settled as losers?
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revs
25 Jul 15 16:00 so what happens with ante post bets - are they settled as losers? Antepost bets on Speculative Bid should be lost whatever the stewards decided. |
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I backed Heavens Guest at 16/1 yesterday morning and was settled at the full odds by Ladbrokes - no rule 4 at all depsite all the non runners, even before Speculative Bid was made a n/r.
I withdrew my winnings straight away but won't be surprised if it gets kicked back and resettled. |
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Yep, mine was settled originally with.no rule 4 but has been taken away and re-settled with a 20p rule 4 deduction.
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I am utterly amazed it is deemed a non runner.
They have opened a can of worms now. Remember Eshtiaal at Perth, jockey never got near the start line yet was deemed a runner. |
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Checked with Coral live chat, settled as a loser ante post as per rules.
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I thought Ante post rules became void on the morning of the race ?
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Antepost rules are valid until final declarations, then it's 'day of race' rules.
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'All in run or not' Facts. Just wondered if they might have waived the rules for a bit of PR but obviously not. They don't have to after all and I'm not complaining.
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He has now been deemed a runner after all. I give up!
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skybet
We're refunding ALL bets on fav Speculative Bid in the International Stakes at Ascot after the jockey was unseated coming out of the stalls jockey never came out stalls |
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William Hill
3:15 #Ascot - Speculative Bid was deemed a runner in the end, so we are resettling with no Rule 4 and refunding bets on the favourite. 5:32pm - 25 Jul 15 |
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only ladcroakes not refunding
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are corals refunding on speculative ?thanx in advance
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corals tweeted this before the fcuk up
As Speculative Bid has been officially declared a non runner, we are refunding all bets |
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thanx moneyx that has eased today as I had £25 e/w with quarrels this morning in shop and wasn.t sure where I stood.so money back 4me ?
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id phone corals
bet365 aren't refunding WH are |
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well done skybet...treated as a non runner
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I had it in a double with Bet Victor and they marked it as VOID. Made no difference the other one lost.
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i backed heavens guest ew at 12/1 this mornig with pp, and backed speculative bid at 10/1 ew with joes, and at 9/1 ew with baldy in the shops.
went to the gym after channel 4 racing thinking it hardly make any difference to me if i was i had a no deduction on heaven guest and lost speculation bid stakes, or the other way round, oh god im confused now ! anyone shed any light ? will i be refunded on SB at joes and baldy, ? and what deductions to HG. guess ill find it out tueday morning when i stick the goodwood bets on anyway dont it let if fester lads |
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I backed SB with Joes, Fred and the Magic sign and was refunded all of the bets. I know my mate had a bet with 395 and they refunded.
By talking to my mate who is a manager in one, no deduction is made on winning bets on HG! Hope this clarifies it for you! |
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cheers wizard
nice one |