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factmachine
12 Jul 15 12:18
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IN A DESPERATE ATTEMPT TO GET PUNTERS AWAY FROM TATTS AND OVER TO THE CHESTERBET "RIP OFF" OUTLETS,HALFWAY THROUGH THE MEETING ON SATURDAY PUNTERS IN TATTS WERE ADVISED AND IN FACT GIVEN DIRECTIONS ON HOW TO ACCESS THE SUBWAY OVER TO THE PADDOCK AREA,"WERE THERE WAS PLENTY OF ROOM" TO GET RIPPED OFF BY CHESTERBET.ALSO THE GESTAPO ON THE GATE ARE NOW NOT ONLY STOPPING PEOPLE BRINGING THEIR OWN DRINK,BUT I DIDNT REALISE THAT THIS INCLUDED FLASKS OF TEA OR COFFEE,IS THERE NO END TO THIS COMPANIES GREED!
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Report 777 July 12, 2015 1:12 PM BST
No
Report roy777 July 12, 2015 1:33 PM BST
just another way of killing the goose that lays the golden egg.  NEW CAR PARK PICNIC AREA....BAG CHECKS AT GATES 9 AND 10....ADDMISSION REFUSED IF ATTEMPTING TO BRING ALCOHOL ONTO THE OPEN COURSE
Report GLASGOWCALLING July 12, 2015 4:03 PM BST
have heard a lot of the locals are fed up with it all and voting with their feet. this management must be run by an imbecile, as once

the regulars leave it will be hard to get them back. plenty of room on the " walls ".  Happy
Report Billy Liddell July 12, 2015 4:34 PM BST
I have been to this July meeting for the past 20yrs and it is SOLD OUT in The County Stand and Long Room every year. The queue for Chesterbet was bigger than for most of the bookies in the ring with most of the once a year punters not even aware who they are betting with.
I noticed that the nice old ladies who used to sell the racecard in the corner of the County Stand have now gone and the racecard is now sold in the Chesterbet booth.

PS
Lily, get those little legs moving fast in the 5-05..
Report the artful dodger July 12, 2015 4:37 PM BST
Lots of people yesterday who said they wouldn't be coming back...couldn't bring their own alcohol into the course and 40 minute queues to get a drink...the crowd was down on previous years and will obviously decrease a lot more...wake up Chester and sort it out...a massive mistake!

There were a lot of people leaving before the 4th race which has never happened before and it hadn't started raining then so that can't be offered as an excuse.
Report onlooker July 12, 2015 6:06 PM BST
Chester BIG 'Picnic Sunday' meeting - at the end of July - will be chaos, it looks like.

It was chaos when they let them all in - 30,000 crowd regularly.

How are they going to search 30,000 people?
Report porter July 12, 2015 6:08 PM BST
going next week can you take own drinks into dee stand
Report MullahOmar July 12, 2015 6:34 PM BST
They have needed to cut down on numbers at chester for a couple of decades, so stopping the `freebie/skintflints' from coming is probably sensible. I have been in the centre course where the crate of ale merchants hung out and it was horrid.

Make it more comfortable for those willing to spend a few quid and keep the benefit seekers OUT.
Report a bitofinterest July 12, 2015 6:43 PM BST
you have to give the benefit seekers the benefit of the doubt ffs
Report IanP July 12, 2015 7:55 PM BST
Never seen anyone with their own drinks in the Dee stand.
Report allpoints July 12, 2015 8:04 PM BST
Mullah
Are you joking about cutting the numbers?Go in Tatts & it's like one man & his dog.Why the likes of Facts keep going to the place is beyond me.Tatts is an absolute graveyard yet it appears Chester aren't bothered.
Report factmachine July 12, 2015 8:32 PM BST
ALLPOINTS,PLENTY OF NON JIGGERS,AND IM NOT TALKING ABOUT THE HORSESWink
Report haywarj July 12, 2015 8:37 PM BST
chester racing two saturdays on the trot must be a first the locals  won't be happy
Report gaz255 July 12, 2015 9:26 PM BST

Jul 12, 2015 -- 6:08PM, porter wrote:


going next week can you take own drinks into dee stand


No-says so on the ticket

Report foxy July 13, 2015 8:30 AM BST
I should think there next move at the sunday fixture will be to put chester bet outlets in the picnic car park so the punters can enjoy there picnics without needing to leave the area.


regarding taking your own booze in can anybody give any examples which other major sporting venues allow to bring your own ?
Report wasnot July 13, 2015 8:44 AM BST
I don't think they've handled it at all well though foxy and people are suspicious of their motives as they are the greediest course in the country.  I went to the cricket last Wednesday and you could take your own food in and soft drinks in plastic bottles, but no alcohol.  Bag searching was fast and efficient and all the staff were friendly and jovial.  Not a bit like the welcome you get at racecourses.  Test matches are very boozy affairs yet when I sent to the bar I didn't have to queue behind more than one person at any time.  Left thinking what a great day and will go to Cardiff again.  Ticket was £62 and I thought it was value.  Wonder how many think Chester is value?
Report wasnot July 13, 2015 8:47 AM BST
Chester are also pushing their chesterbet phone app using their useless wifi.  There will be no end to this until we are out of their way.  To date we have been very good boys not highlighting the appalling value that chesterbet offer while we are on the course.  That good will may not last much longer IMO.
Report foxy July 13, 2015 8:58 AM BST
good morning wasnot

I do think the police have put pressure on chester it was kicking off in the middle most meetings however they are now out of control with there greed I was astonished at the amount of chester bets joints with the umbrellas up all night were by the parade ring on Friday.

anyway much more interesting is your cricket experience £62 as you say is very good value for a full day out watching top sportsman at a really big sporting event ,what was the cost of food and drinks ?I have had to pay a lot more for some of the world cup fixtures I am going to this autumn one of which is in Cardiff,was getting around the place easy enough I was thinking of staying in newbury then getting a train.
Report foxy July 13, 2015 9:05 AM BST
I have thought about that wasnot {poor value with chester bet}my view is they would not allow any noticeable criticism ie sticking a sign up on your joint,perhaps the racing post and c4 each time chester race can WARN punters about the value they get.
Report wasnot July 13, 2015 9:25 AM BST
Food and drink wasn't cheap, foxy, but was quite good quality and varied, unlike the endless burger vans on the racecourses.  I don't mind paying a bit more for food if the quality was OK.  Can't stand paying £6 for something that's inedible.  Most of the foods on offer were £5 or £6.  Some Aussies sat behind me had the fish and chips and said they were nice.  They had vans dedicated to selling the Stowfold Press cider at £4 a pint and that was nice.  Park and ride was in operation from Cardiff City FC ground and that was a doddle, buses going all the time.  There was no-where to park near the cricket ground, although the walk from the station was only about 2 miles and was through a beautiful park so I may do that next time.  Also there is a very good pub just outside the ground selling Brains which is a nice tipple.
Report wasnot July 13, 2015 9:30 AM BST
Regarding Chester bet, at Ascot this year the Tote had signs up outside their booths saying the tote returns had beaten the SP at Ascot in 2014 in however many races.  Do you not think we would be allowed to do the same at Chester?  ie in the last 12 months the SP returned from on-course bookmakers boards had beaten the Chesterbet returns on 100% of races run at the track?  Double standards surely?
Report foxy July 13, 2015 9:41 AM BST
those prices are fair enough for decent stuff I am sure the getting in and out for the rugby will be well organised ,in my two year stint at ffos las I came across plenty of brains in fact I don't think there was a watering hole in south wales that didn't sell it.
Report foxy July 13, 2015 9:45 AM BST
no doubt its double standards even at stratford yesterday the announcer spent 15 mins telling everybody what great value the tote is,but they are on there property and do as they wish.

on another subject that uttoxeter rails pitch and reached a fair amount for a number out of the number.
Report sean rua July 13, 2015 10:00 AM BST
Yes, Chester management seems to make some strange decisions. I cannot really see what is their objective.
The current set-up seems to help nobody; neither horse-racing enthusiasts or day-tripping, pi ss-artists.

Those tents in the In-field block the view for thousands of paying spectators - for the sake of whom? The patrons, I guess.
Many of these, as with the County Stand, don't actually pay for their tickets; they get badges off "connections". ( I know, bc I did it myself once).

Also, only a year or two ago, they started giving "two for the price of one" for Tatts.

All this, plus those who buy from spivs, makes me wonder how many are actually the "benefit scroungers"  referred to by mullah?

Imo, a nightmare place, which is far better on non-race days.
Must be OK for those who get in free and don't actually want to see the racing, which can be good quality and exciting, btw.
Report factmachine July 13, 2015 10:39 AM BST
GREAT NEWS FOR PUNTERS IN MEMBERS AT UTTOX,2% A RUNNER LAND HAS BEEN INVADED,AND THE NATIVES ARNT VERY HAPPY Happy
Report flukes July 13, 2015 10:40 AM BST
Baldfred doing a good job of trashing Chesterbet on his Bonus Hour every time there is a Chester Saturday meeting. Quite funny really
Report foxy July 13, 2015 12:00 PM BST
flukes ?
Report flukes July 13, 2015 1:07 PM BST
Foxy?
Report MullahOmar July 13, 2015 1:09 PM BST
I am amazed at this fuss.

Why should anyone be able to take their own food and drink to any sporting event?

It it surely part of the business model of every entertainment business on the planet to
generate income from selling food/drink. I agree they should do it better - on busy days at every event I have been too there are long queues at the bar and the food on offer I wouldnt let my dogs anywhere near.

So as a punter you plan. If you are going to chester you organise nice food in one of several good restaurants in chester before or after the meeting. You then buy a cheap ticket off a tout to get in tatts. You then go to the paddock area where it is very pleasant, nice atmosphere, room to walk around and get all sorts of different drinks.

You bet on bf, the once a year mugs would rather take 3/1 on chesterbet and get paid in cash than 5/1 on bf. Everyones happy, It really aint hard.
Report factmachine July 13, 2015 1:14 PM BST
MULLAH,YOU HAVE ANSWERED YOUR OWN QUESTION REGARDING THE FOOD ON OFFER,"YOU WOULDNT FEED IT YOUR DOG",THE FACT IS THE HORSE YOUR BACKING ON BETFAIR AT 5/1 IS 5/1 IN TATTS BUT THERES NO COMMISSION OR PREMIUM CHARGE!Happy
Report factmachine July 13, 2015 1:15 PM BST
ITS NOT ROCKET SCIENCE!
Report foxy July 13, 2015 2:05 PM BST
flukes

I meant the baldbet doing a good job

what do they do ?
Report allpoints July 13, 2015 2:13 PM BST
Facts
If You'd take those blooming caps lock off your last post would have read better & maybe people would have taken notice.Ie.The fact is the horse you are backing on betfair at 5/1 is 5/1 in TATTS but there's NO commission or premium charge.How can you get your message over when every letter is in capitals?
Report loper July 13, 2015 2:18 PM BST
I wouldn't stay in Newbury, Foxy.
Report Dr Gonzo July 13, 2015 2:22 PM BST
There was a story on the local news a couple of weeks ago about businesses in the city centre being unhappy with the number of Saturday meetings now held at Chester. The pubs, unsurprisingly, were the only ones seemingly happy.
Report foxy July 13, 2015 5:25 PM BST
hello loper

why not newbury ?
Report onlooker July 13, 2015 5:48 PM BST
DR Gonzo - Chester, apparently, wanted more Sunday fixtures - because of the annual popularity of the upcoming one.

However, the City Council would not Licence them - so they, obviously, went for the Saturdays, instead.

From a Form study perspective, there are now simply too many meetings there.
Report loper July 13, 2015 5:49 PM BST
Hi Foxy.

You would have to catch the stopping train going back to Reading in order to get to Cardiff which would be a pain.

Newbury is on the wrong FGW line for Cardiff going instead to Exeter & Plymouth.

Shirley & I were at Cardiff on Wednesday. What we always do is drive to Bristol Parkway and get the train to Cardiff from there.

Bristol Parkway is just off the motorway and the train journey is cheap and only 35 minutes. Loads of trains to choose from. Book in advance, though.
Report foxy July 13, 2015 6:08 PM BST
thanks loper I hadn't realised that,i shall make other plans.
Report TheBaron July 13, 2015 6:47 PM BST
Maybe I'm a miserable git but I wont pay rip off prices for  crap food or drink anywhere...**** em I'll go without.
Report ZEALOT July 13, 2015 7:03 PM BST
watch it from the wall - lovely
Report TheBaron July 13, 2015 7:13 PM BST
The last time I paid a stupid price for a cup of tea I told the bloke to leave the teabag in.  He gave me a look that said "you **** I've only used it twice."
Report intheknow July 13, 2015 9:40 PM BST
Foxy, Cardiff is my home city, will have a chat with you when we next see each other
Report foxy July 14, 2015 8:57 AM BST
thanks intheknow I would guess that will be bangor on the Friday of goodwood.
Report intheknow July 14, 2015 10:16 AM BST
Sadly not as I'm on the Muss run that day. Sure to bump into you somewhere though
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