After I posted the figures for crooser, someone suggested that I repeat the exercise for oneyallbeenwaiting4 and TheNorfolkMafia, to his credit TNM told me not to waste my time as there would be no positives from it. Worryingly oneyallbeenwaiting4 hasn't posted since I asked him for the date when he started putting his picks up....!
The following figures are to a 1 unit level stake
Advised Price Win 120.88 Advised Price Place 46.51 BSP Price Win 220.51 BSP Price Place 80.79 Industry SP Win 28.88 Industry SP Place (18.73)
A few of the facts
Selections 419 Non runners 5 Winners 44 Places 127 Selections since last winner 14
In summary, if you are hiding oneyallbeenwaiting4, it is now safe to post, the figures speak for themselves, well done.
As a footnote it should be made clear that this information is based on backs posted only, everyone will have seen some of the referred to forumites posts screaming full bank lays and many of those would have cleaned him out, but they were mostly posted in a short space of time when the person in question was looking to annoy or shock others, so they have not been included.
I have been posting Corky, I put up a 25/1 winner 4 days ago, actually been keeping an eye out to see when you were going to deliver the data, wasnt sure if you had given up or not.
Was never worried, put up way too many big priced winners on here to be in any risk, im just wondering how much better it could have been if I actually applied myself and wasnt posting a load of garbage amidst the clearly top class INFO.
The novelty of posting shight on here has wore off anyway.
Not bad for the forum moron.
I have been posting Corky, I put up a 25/1 winner 4 days ago, actually been keeping an eye out to see when you were going to deliver the data, wasnt sure if you had given up or not.Was never worried, put up way too many big priced winners on here to
Apologies must have missed it, the 400 odd selections took a fair amount of my time up...!
Shouldn't put yourself down (leave that to the rest of us...!)
Apologies must have missed it, the 400 odd selections took a fair amount of my time up...!Shouldn't put yourself down (leave that to the rest of us...!)
I did guarantee long term profit for a reason, historical data strongly hinted at it being a mathematical certainty, it was impossible for me to suggest otherwise.
I might start actually trying again and really show the doubters why I have been called a phenomenon.
Aye I thought it would have been a big task.I did guarantee long term profit for a reason, historical data strongly hinted at it being a mathematical certainty, it was impossible for me to suggest otherwise.I might start actually trying again and rea
Will gladly give it a go marko, have wife's relatives staying with us this week, so it will be a welcome excuse to dodge some of the planned "entertaining"...!
Will gladly give it a go marko, have wife's relatives staying with us this week, so it will be a welcome excuse to dodge some of the planned "entertaining"...!
Well done to the guys for making a decent profit, and well done to Corkie for taking the time to establish the 'FACTS', however, the limitations of his retrospective exercise have to be pointed out on 2 counts.
1. Corkie does not seem to have taken into account, or at least hasn't mentioned, the standard 5% Betfair commission calculation, which is a prerequisite for all who publish their p/l on here imo. However, both oney and crooser will still be nicely in profit even with that taken into account, so we're not going to worry about that too much.
However, point 2 is the one that matters, and I consider myself a leading authority on this subject having done a few of theses threads in my time, and that is the psychological aspect of declaring FROM THE OUTSET that you are going to be working to a staking plan and are going to publish your P & L on a daily basis.
You see, it alters the mind-set and influences how you select. Now take for example my current 'out-of-the-ballpark' guess thread, it had all gone rather t!ts up and I was over 50 pts down, fair to say the pressure was on, and I have to stick to a staking plan without losing credibility!
3ts EW on Diamondsandrubies got me out of the soft-and-smelly, but my point is, try doing this with the additional pressure of a staking plan and keeping a daily p & l as you go along, it ain't so easy!
Well done to the guys for making a decent profit, and well done to Corkie for taking the time to establish the 'FACTS', however, the limitations of his retrospective exercise have to be pointed out on 2 counts.1. Corkie does not seem to have taken in
You're an intelligent chap, chav, and I've posted in lovely spaced out paragraphs, surely it's not that difficult to read what I've said, even in your inebriated state!
Ah, with you now.You're an intelligent chap, chav, and I've posted in lovely spaced out paragraphs, surely it's not that difficult to read what I've said, even in your inebriated state!
Fair points George B, the exercise really was more to do with clarifying one way or another whether crooser and oneyallbeenwaiting4 proved to be as bad as many were making out, as I personally felt the criticism was uncalled for, more so in crooser's case than oneyallbeenwaiting4, though I was pleasantly surprised that oneyallbeenwaiting4 had proved to be so profitable as well.
I appreciate what you are saying but I don't think we will ever know whether they are "capable" as such, as it is impossible to gauge unless there was something at stake for them, and no scenario available to us, would create the relevant type of pressure that those who play for a living feel when they get the inevitable run of bad results or near misses or worse still a combination of the two...!
Fair points George B, the exercise really was more to do with clarifying one way or another whether crooser and oneyallbeenwaiting4 proved to be as bad as many were making out, as I personally felt the criticism was uncalled for, more so in crooser's
I didn't mean "for a living", I just meant for the challenge of it, as the forum offers the opportunity to have your own 'tipping column', so to speak. Unpaid, obviously, but the psychological aspect of it, that you know people will be reading (and judging!) and through good and bad, you're going to have to post your results.
Surprisingly, few have tried it, myself, robster, knot in wood, fryboy, giggilo, any others? I mean specifically selections with reasoning, with an updated P or L posted on a regular basis, over an extended period of say a season.
I didn't mean "for a living", I just meant for the challenge of it, as the forum offers the opportunity to have your own 'tipping column', so to speak. Unpaid, obviously, but the psychological aspect of it, that you know people will be reading (and j
Neither really go in for explanations on a regular basis from the threads I've reveiwed and don't think either have the inclination to record an accurate p/l, sure the challenge is there for them both should they wish to take it on.
Neither really go in for explanations on a regular basis from the threads I've reveiwed and don't think either have the inclination to record an accurate p/l, sure the challenge is there for them both should they wish to take it on.
during this time of racking up a +220 BSP I was being called clueless all the way
people cant understand because they have never seen this before, I am a one off, a fenomenon, my methods have never been seen before, im the oneyallbeenwaiting4
during this time of racking up a +220 BSP I was being called clueless all the waypeople cant understand because they have never seen this before, I am a one off, a fenomenon, my methods have never been seen before, im the oneyallbeenwaiting4
id bet my FULL BANK bets are showing a long term profit, I nearly went 20 in a row but its all forgotten
only last night I had a FULL BANK WIN on Nice 27/10
id bet my FULL BANK bets are showing a long term profit, I nearly went 20 in a row but its all forgottenonly last night I had a FULL BANK WIN on Nice 27/10
Claiming certain picks as winners and expecting people to know when to regard other posts as intending to annoy/shock rather devalues this exercise imo.
Claiming certain picks as winners and expecting people to know when to regard other posts as intending to annoy/shock rather devalues this exercise imo.
if the words MAXIMUM FULL BANK weren't included people make take the tips more seriously imho for example a points system may be better advised , anyone advising full bank backs and lays are not going to be taken too seriously for obvious reasons
if the words MAXIMUM FULL BANK weren't included people make take the tips more seriously imho for example a points system may be better advised , anyone advising full bank backs and lays are not going to be taken too seriously for obvious reasons
ghostly ive always said I dont care how people take me, I just deliver the goods, the nature of the deliver is depending on what mood im in at the time, mostly light hearted wum
oneyallbeenwaiting4 • January 28, 2015 5:44 PM GMT There will be lots and lots of losers, many failing to better last place.
Important to bear this in mind.
I do not promise long term profit, I GUARANTEE it.
And also this.
ghostly ive always said I dont care how people take me, I just deliver the goods, the nature of the deliver is depending on what mood im in at the time, mostly light hearted wumoneyallbeenwaiting4 • January 28, 2015 5:44 PM GMTThere will be lots an
oneyallbeenwaiting4 Joined: 04 Jun 12 Replies: 3615 21 Nov 15 15:53 TRUE, but if you lump all the joke ones in with the serious ones ill still be up
Its not much of a joke if you are the only one laughing at it tbf.
oneyallbeenwaiting4 Joined: 04 Jun 12Replies: 3615 21 Nov 15 15:53 TRUE, but if you lump all the joke ones in with the serious ones ill still be upIts not much of a joke if you are the only one laughing at it tbf.
Havent been on the Forum for awhile came back about 6 weeks ago. this guy isnt the fella used to post as Money Tree by any chance, cos his actions and threads have his theme
Havent been on the Forum for awhile came back about 6 weeks ago. this guy isnt the fella used to post as Money Tree by any chance, cos his actions and threads have his theme
There's loads of sunken ships at the bottom of the ocean who all looked good on their day including the most famous 'titanic', you're just another of these!! If you want a gambling legend just goggle titanic thompson and you will see your just a conference league player.
HTH.
There's loads of sunken ships at the bottom of the ocean who all looked good on their day including the most famous 'titanic', you're just another of these!! If you want a gambling legend just goggle titanic thompson and you will see your just a conf