Newmarket today R L Moore

Well 3 - 0 to Bond really

yep  forget the first 2 that was after time
ok you laid  the champ  in the 3.10  I back him 
so  ts1 nill to you .. lets keep   like me  its a £100  each lay  and £100 my backs
so you are £100  up  zips a £100 down
round 4 coming up

next one is very short

hence why zip is a backer

sir bond, next to run is Holland Park about a even money shot ...so no harm done   could bring us about evens

strid    ok this 3.45 is short  but in the next  race 4.20  Moore  rides the hot pot of the meeting ...Double Up  and its a handicap  11/8  7/1 bar

sir Bond you don't lose much  .. but you lose  ... its best to lose slowly that way you stay in the game longer

not backing but wouldn't be surprised to see fanshawes run a better race

yard coming to form at last!

you need both to win, just to win £100

*floriss

Holland Park could be a dodge pot. Looks mid 70's on form [easily the best in the race] and seems the type to work quite strongly at home (has been backed well enough on 2 starts to suggest that he does) but was ultra keen latest and not one to back at a short price. Small lay for me. GL

ul ZIP

floriss ran much better than debut for 3rd

sir bond  they are pushing this nah out to 5/4  you could be in for a    125 pay  out  form a q

BOND 2 - ZIPPY 0

ZIPPY GONE BROKE

you won't get rich backing ryan moore shorties that are this far clear in the market ZIP

playing with such small margins

if you layed them all on betfair you'd have been 7% up after commission

just shows what you are up against

*meant to say in hcps (the next race at HQ)

strid   I don't bet or lay in   maidens    honest  this is only for a bit of fun  with bondy

oh i see

Jun 25, 2015 -- 3:51PM, zipper wrote:

strid

Jun 25, 2015 -- 3:51PM, stridingedge wrote:

oh i see

what a load of tosh

ok  got too   play on  .. now you all know  or should know I don't play after 4.00  so a no bet for me 
its just a game with Sir Bond
this 4.20  is worth  12k to the winner  and this Double Up should  fly home  it will never have a better chance to pick up  12k ....... its  6/5   ...10/1 bar

sorry fat fingers

strid   I don't bet or lay in   maidens    honest  this is only for a bit of fun  with bondy

what a load of tosh

BOND 3 - ZIPPY 0

zipper just to clarify then all the previous bets and lays on maidens you have put up in the past on here(there are loads i can assure you) are just more fantasy bets, from betfairs number one fantasist

Zippy is £400 down

he must be going big on this next one

the dealer  if you say so ........
but ive been in the lay comp  run by Reged..
the lay a day comp  run by KC  ...
the div 3 comp ....You ok with that  that's over the last 10 years
them comps you have to post Something

Zippy how much you down here?

no zip you said so not me

zipper • June 25, 2015 3:51 PM BST
strid   I don't bet or lay in   maidens

loads not on comps, plenty on threads, will i start bringing them up

sir bond I never bet after  4.00 clock    other than the real big meetings  Ascot and the like

BOND 4 - ZIPPY 0

WHAT NOW ZIPPY

NO WAY BACK FROM HERE YOU MUGGINS

Only Dagher left now for Ryan.

sir bond    £400  2.00 2.35  3.10  3.45..,, I don't bet after 4.00 clock   the 4.20 got beat and  it looks like  moores ride  in the 4.55  the pros don't what to know
so  I have to settle with £400 down...   an hour from now it would be/ should be £600

Well done you we are all so proud of your losses

zip You have posted loads of times when you have claimed to have had a bet in a maiden.

correct TRD

loads and loads, pure fantasist and zip if you are going to be a liar make sure you are a good one

sir bond  other than our bit of fun on here  re the Moore challenge...
now boys and girls  iv lost    YES  lost  today  nothing to do with   Ryan Moore
Only had 2 bets  win bets  3.20  and 3.50 Newcastle   no lays today   hey it happens
but the 4.00 clock  system works again    if I had crashed on I would have lost a lot more

steve bets on maidens....zip dont

for a minute it looked

like the one the pro's don't want was going to win after the 2 shorties beat , that would have been too funny

only after a car disappears out gate of rampton

moore should get his head out his arse and stop believing the hype he is not the best jockey

Ryan Moore got beat on his last 2   zip   was not on  why it was after 4.00 clock   ..good night

what time does steves shift start at......

zipper • June 25, 2015 3:51 PM BST
strid   I don't bet or lay in   maidens

come on zip im giving you the chance to say that what you said is total bollox, they are all there to be seen, your credibility which was zero is now going into a minus.

crap racing crap results.lay,listed to g1. back.

you lay maidens in the lay a day thread zipper

so do i.

I know you do DB but zipper saying he don't bet/lay maidens at all

Good Morning Guys ... lets clear this up re Maidens  and why I don bet or lay em ..take today  I will give you 4 examples and there are a lot more but to keep a long story short

2.00 Donny
2.20 wolver
6.10 Newcastle
6.20 Newmarket
38 runners in them 4 races , none  have won, few have run twice  ,, how could you no anything about the rest
maiden are all about guessing  .... pros don't guess...hope that  clear  and helpful

ive had it then, 2.00 donny,win and pl/lay

deadbrain  whats your nag  ?

zipper here is one at random from a thread started by you not a comp or lay thread


zipper • May 27, 2015 3:05 PM BST
3.00 lay spend a penny

A MAIDEN RACE

there are loads and loads more that i can/will bring up


JUST FOR ONCE ADMIT WHAT YOU SAID WAS TOTAL BOLLOX

Maidens heres a true story  ..Snaafi Dancer  foaled 25 FEB  1982
sold  for a World record price ... 10Million  dollars ....
24 million into days terms
Snaffi Dancer   never made the race course .. he was so slow
sent off to stud  and had fertility problems .. ie firing blanks
for the full story   its on Yahoo   it a good read
maidens leave em alone

BEYOND HELP IMHO

dealer  give it a rest  yes  ive put up maidens  in all comps   but never back or lay em
why I only  have about 13 races a day to pick from  up two 4.00clock
take today 3 meetings 2 flat   1 jumps before 4.00 clock
cartmel is very poor  .. so its down to  9 races  take out the maidens  I aint a lot of choice
same when I was in the comps  that's why I put up maidens  to back or lay  but they did not carry my cash
hope that helps

zipper • May 27, 2015 3:05 PM BST
3.00 lay spend a penny

NOT A COMP THREAD FACT

  YOU STUCK IT UP FACT

  ITS A MAIDEN FACT

YOUR TALKING BULL AGAIN FACT

how many more do you want me to bring up???????

Zippy exposed

Jun 26, 2015 -- 12:15PM, zipper wrote:

dealer  give it a rest  yes  ive put up maidens  in all comps   but never back or lay em  why I only  have about 13 races a day to pick from  up two 4.00clock  take today 3 meetings 2 flat   1 jumps before 4.00 clockcartmel is very poor  .. so its down to  9 races  take out the maidens  I aint a lot of choice same when I was in the comps  that's why I put up maidens  to back or lay  but they did not carry my cash  hope that helps

zip thats bollix

ngu .......whats bollix about my 12.15 post, please explain

bollix saying that u never put up lays b4 in maidens

12.21 post proves that

random pick there will be many many more, he has an amazing ability to block out the truth. frightening really

im off good days punting one and all

ngu  see my 12.15 post YES  ive put up maidens  but I don't lay or back em
ok your slow go back and read the 12.15 thread

ngu my 12.15 thread went something like this
dealer give it a rest   YES  ive put up maidens in the comps .. but I NEVER  back or lay em  ,, they don't carry my cash   .. ngu you  ok with that

jesus THAT WASNT A COMP THREAD ARE YOU REALLY THAT THICK

dealer keep backing them maidens   .. the food bank awaits

you just answered my question, clearly you are

BYE

dealer 12.29 you said you were off out .  to top yourself  what happened

NGU what happened to  your many threads..., ZIP DONT BET ,   looking a bit silly now  you £20 guesser .

Jun 26, 2015 -- 12:53PM, zipper wrote:

NGU what happened to

zipper • march 1, 2015 3:42 PM BSTguys I DONT BET IM SKINT

so you give a tip to lay in a maiden on KCs thread but don't lay it yourself ? so its not a tip is it

waccoe 3 maidens races have in run
2.00  won odds on
2 10  odds  against  5/4 lost
2.20  won odds on
now backing  you lost  a bag of chips 
laying  won a bag of chips  ,, there a waste of time   you do the maths

lump on this 3.55  win and place  the fav

left it very late but it won   game over  its 4.00 clock thing

Zippy, the winner wasn't favourite on the book or on the machine.

You know how to encourage the abuse.

that's zip out with the cash   4.00 clock  you guys have  another  5 hours on the night shift   backing and laying  ,, good luck ....  cars on the drive 7.15   and yes  we have a chauffeur  ,,Graham .. why we like a drink or two .. and I don't drink and drive    come to think of it I don't drive very much

handicaps win at longer prices.no harm non /h

wft  I do my own odds  guess you know that  it was fav on my tissue   and  I backed the nag win   and place
ok the fav  flip / flopped    but I stand by my odds   always have  always  will

good night  it 4.10

3from 9 favs won so far handicaps.

Moore just one win from over 30 rides since he set the Ascot record last Friday. Amazing how they go in and out of form.

Ryan Moore since Ascot.
Date    Race Details    Horse    Weight    Result    Future Form    SP    OR    Watch Race Video
26 Jun 15    Don 8 GF 3 3y Hcp £7K(F)    Azraff    9 - 7    2/6 , Oracolo (2½L)      Future Form    5/2    95   
Full
Finish
26 Jun 15    Don 8 GF 5 Hcp £3K(F)    Rocket Ronnie    9 - 13    4/9 , Red Paladin (4¼L)      Future Form    9/4    68   
Full
Finish
26 Jun 15    Don 7 GF 4 2y  £4K(F)    Torment    9 - 7    3/4 , Champagne City (5¾L)      Future Form    6/4        
Full
Finish
26 Jun 15    Don 6 GF 5 2y Mdn £3K(F)    Drifting Spirit    9 - 0    4/10 , Alsaaden (2½L)      Future Form    11/4        
Full
Finish
25 Jun 15    Nmk 8 Gd 4 3y Hcp £6K(F)    Dagher    8 - 12    2/5 , Great Park (nk)      Future Form    6/1    76    
25 Jun 15    Nmk 5 Gd 2 Hcp £13K(F)    Double Up    9 - 10    3/10 , Humidor (½L)      Future Form    5/4    96    
25 Jun 15    Nmk 7 Gd 5 Mdn £4K(F)    Holland Park    9 - 5    2/12 , Musaaid (1¼L)      Future Form    5/4         
25 Jun 15    Nmk 7 Gd 4 Hcp £6K(F)    Baltic Brave    9 - 13    2/10 , Denzille Lane (1¼L)      Future Form    10/3    84    
25 Jun 15    Nmk 12 Gd 5 Hcp £4K(F)    My Guardian Angel    9 - 3    2/8 , Martiniquaise (9L)      Future Form    3/1    64    
25 Jun 15    Nmk 6 Gd 4 2y Mdn £5K(F)    Dark Forest    9 - 5    6/11 , Experto Crede (4¼L)      Future Form    11/4         
24 Jun 15    Sal 10 GF 5 Mdn £4K(F)    Plane Song    9 - 0    1/7 , Included (1L)      Future Form    8/15         
24 Jun 15    Sal 8 GF 2 Hcp £12K(F)    Rekdhat    9 - 5    3/10 , Lightning Spear (2¼L)      Future Form    9/2    91    
24 Jun 15    Sal 12 GF 3 3y Hcp £14K(F)    Darshini    9 - 7    5/9 , Simple Verse (6¾L)      Future Form    7/4    90    
24 Jun 15    Sal 7 GF 4 2y Mdn £5K(F)    Hairdryer    9 - 5    4/7 , Montsarrat (2½L)      Future Form    10/11

You just beat me to it Sage. Add to my list another loser, Yet Again. Moore is a different animal at the big meetings! That has always been my problem as regards his status!

hes on group@ currah weekend.

moore is a money rider like j r velazquez in the us doesn't really give a **** at the little meetings. he's no better than anybody else given that he gets the best horses in the big races and he's a miserable fuccker as well

Different at the big meetings? The reality at Royal Ascot was 4 winning favourites out of 13. He was beaten on nine favourites.

That's now one winner from the last twenty-three rides and that was 8/15. The idea that he is some sort of punter's friend is ridiculous.

I never do maidens zipper nothing to go on

I have no arguments there DD. It is just the extra effort he seems to put in when the cash is up for grabs. As you say, he is invariably on the best horse anyway.

Gone the way Dettori went, ie some days just seems not bothered. May only see him give his all in the Joe soap races if he needs them for the championship. Interesting to see how he gets on tonight with some nice rides.

4 more losers at Newmarket but worth remembering that Sir Michael has very few runners compared to his best days so Ryan is riding for a whole variety of trainers and is only favourite because of boomaker bias in most cases.

His last looks a cert but ironically because he's on it it may be a bigger price than it should be.

About time to get a winner

Even a stopped clock is right twice a day

your judging moore on bookie driven class 5 horses , a bit silly really

+109from53 bets listed to g1.from april

that's my point thanks d59

Judging him on some very tame efforts when he is certainly capable of better. The Ryan Moore we saw at RA is a different one to what we see at lesser meetings. His drive is not always apparent when the prize is minimal. Consistency is a rarity with any jockey nowadays. That leads me to only one conclusion. They are just obeying orders.

Jun 26, 2015 -- 11:00PM, hello :-) wrote:

your judging moore on bookie driven class 5 horses , a bit silly really

My comment, if that's what you're referring to, about the stopped clock was a reference to my previous comment about his last ride last night and how even I can get it right now and again

group 2 9.6,=+117 off 54 bets