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22 Jun 15
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Looking through the Wetherby card and seems most horses have the same mark for Turf and AW which doesn't seem right, have a look at Slingsby and Available, their marks are usually totally different for both surfaces but they have them the same, must be a glitch imo unless they have started to give horses same rating for both surfaces!
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I am looking stewarts - But busy with the current racing, too.
Back-tracking recent rises.
Back-tracking recent rises.
SLINGSBY is probably correct - as ...
Started 2015 rated 60 - on BOTH All-Weather and Turf.
Won at Redcar Off 60 on May 26 - by 5 lengths - and was Raised to 71 - BUT - Never ran off revised 71
Carried 6 lb PENALTY when winning again (off 66) - by 3 lengths - at Wolverhampton(AW)
TURF rating then raised to 79 - on back of WOLVERHAMPTON win.
Not been entered on AW since - so not an absolute to say that AW Rating is/should be new 79 - but as this run of success started with SAME rating for Both surfaces - and Turf Rating has been raised FURTHER on strength of AW win - looks like 79 for BOTH surfaces is a distinct possibility.
Checking others.
Started 2015 rated 60 - on BOTH All-Weather and Turf.
Won at Redcar Off 60 on May 26 - by 5 lengths - and was Raised to 71 - BUT - Never ran off revised 71
Carried 6 lb PENALTY when winning again (off 66) - by 3 lengths - at Wolverhampton(AW)
TURF rating then raised to 79 - on back of WOLVERHAMPTON win.
Not been entered on AW since - so not an absolute to say that AW Rating is/should be new 79 - but as this run of success started with SAME rating for Both surfaces - and Turf Rating has been raised FURTHER on strength of AW win - looks like 79 for BOTH surfaces is a distinct possibility.
Checking others.
AVAILABLE - is a different story, though.
Started 2015 Rated - 62 All-Weather - and 76 Turf.
After running 2nd, on third All-Weather run, was raised 3lbs to 65 - the Winner, Logan's Lad was raised by 5lbs.
Turf rating REMAINED the same 76 - and has since been dropped to 75.
NO way, whatsoever, that AVAILABLE's All-Weather rating has, subsequently, been raised from 68 to 75 - without running again on AW, and Turf Rating having been dropped by a pound. ... and the 75 All-Weather rating on RacingPost.com is almost certainly a computer glitch - and should read 68.
Even Logan's Lad has only gone up by a another 2 lbs, for a subsequent 2nd.
Looking to find a conclusive horse from ones not engaged - But - I think, we both already know the answer.
Started 2015 Rated - 62 All-Weather - and 76 Turf.
After running 2nd, on third All-Weather run, was raised 3lbs to 65 - the Winner, Logan's Lad was raised by 5lbs.
Turf rating REMAINED the same 76 - and has since been dropped to 75.
NO way, whatsoever, that AVAILABLE's All-Weather rating has, subsequently, been raised from 68 to 75 - without running again on AW, and Turf Rating having been dropped by a pound. ... and the 75 All-Weather rating on RacingPost.com is almost certainly a computer glitch - and should read 68.
Even Logan's Lad has only gone up by a another 2 lbs, for a subsequent 2nd.
Looking to find a conclusive horse from ones not engaged - But - I think, we both already know the answer.
atewarts - It very much depends on the individual horse - and the conclusive, or otherwise, extent of it's previous history.
Still looking for a conclusive Error - by checking both historic records and subsequent Entries.... not that easy.
Found one for last Saturday that has been raised by 9 lbs under BOTH codes - to the Same rating - thus correct on RacingPost ... although I am equally certain that there will be others that are INCORRECT.
DEINOYCHUS
Won 5-runner race on AW and raised from 66 to 70
Then made British TURF debut - off that 70 - and won by 6 lengths.
Raised by 9 lbs for BOTH Turf and AW (understandably)
Entered Newmarket 2:45, last Saturday off 79.
Entered Lingfield (AW) 8:30, last Saturday of 79.
Still looking for a conclusive Error - by checking both historic records and subsequent Entries.... not that easy.
Found one for last Saturday that has been raised by 9 lbs under BOTH codes - to the Same rating - thus correct on RacingPost ... although I am equally certain that there will be others that are INCORRECT.
DEINOYCHUS
Won 5-runner race on AW and raised from 66 to 70
Then made British TURF debut - off that 70 - and won by 6 lengths.
Raised by 9 lbs for BOTH Turf and AW (understandably)
Entered Newmarket 2:45, last Saturday off 79.
Entered Lingfield (AW) 8:30, last Saturday of 79.
FOUND a WRONG 'UN
STAR ANISE.
Shown 62 for BOTH Turf AND All-Weather on RacingPost.com
Was dropped 3 lbs on TURF (ONLY) last week - from 65 to 62 - for finishing 5th at BATH, last time out.
Race before that STAR ANISE was 4th - BUT beaten ONLY a length - at Lingfield ALL-WEATHER by Thecorishcowboy
Thecornishcowboy was put UP by 3 lbs - and both the 2nd and 3rd by one pound
STAR ANISE was LEFT on it's AW 68 - as PROVEN by it's ALL-WEATHER ENTRY, last Saturday at LINGFIELD (AW) 8:30
Should - therefore read - TURF 62 - BUT - AW 68 on RacingPost.com - - and NOT 62 for BOTH
STAR ANISE.
Shown 62 for BOTH Turf AND All-Weather on RacingPost.com
Was dropped 3 lbs on TURF (ONLY) last week - from 65 to 62 - for finishing 5th at BATH, last time out.
Race before that STAR ANISE was 4th - BUT beaten ONLY a length - at Lingfield ALL-WEATHER by Thecorishcowboy
Thecornishcowboy was put UP by 3 lbs - and both the 2nd and 3rd by one pound
STAR ANISE was LEFT on it's AW 68 - as PROVEN by it's ALL-WEATHER ENTRY, last Saturday at LINGFIELD (AW) 8:30
Should - therefore read - TURF 62 - BUT - AW 68 on RacingPost.com - - and NOT 62 for BOTH
Sorry have been out today, pretty well knew Availables rating for AW was wrong, but so many others have the same rating for both surfaces now, very annoying, hope they sought it out soon.
Thanks for all your efforts Onlooker.
Thanks for all your efforts Onlooker.
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