king of rooks

Be surprised if King of Rooks was beaten here.

Ibrahima Sonko 18 Jun 15 10:45
no, watched the last 2, what was said?

Hughes said if he had the choice he would ride the 2nd fav, rode it in a gallop uphill, it was pulling so said "lets see what you can do", apparently it took off, then at the top of the hill he asked it again and said he couldnt believe that it took off again... words to that effect anyway..

could they possibly flip flop ?

I have KOR as the 4th leg of a L15, stuck it in with three from Tue.  Want to lay KOR today but the market is really not helping me do that now or lay off by backing LOI.  The market move for LOI is ominous and I assume mostly on the back of Hughes saying he preferred it.

The form is difficult to assess and drawing a line through Buratino gives it to KOR but factoring in KOR got beat at Ascot (first run) and had the rail at Sandown where maybe taking form from the 5f straight can be a little unreliable.  Does anybody knows why LOI hasn't run since Ascot race (first run winner and Hannon's usually improve) and after Hannon stated it would run in the Coventry they decided on the Norfolk? It's strange they put two outsiders in the Coventry and then these two together in the Norfolk on can only assume the owners have insisted on it.

may go off j/fav ..... 14/1 bar ....

I think Steady Pace is the best guide to the form as Buratino has clearly improved even compared to 3 weeks ago.

if no real bets for the rest  it could be 11/10 each of 2  pick your own .
for me its a dead match will back one lay the other

^ So you could lose twice if you get it wrong.

- quality insight and betting strategy as ever from zipper

johnny dream on  20/1 bar   and they are 8 of em  fill your boots with the VALUE

Rodia you got 6k on both?

Johnny / Aviboyd  you guys   BACK The 1..3..4..7..8..9..10..11
that's the rest  when the race is over   post your winnings 
my guess  it will be zero .. you lost 8 times .. not a good start to the day

bondy 6k on both aint a good bet,  why you put 12k up and won  less  than 1.5k .. be a gambler and have 12k on the winner  that way you win 12k ...........if... if you get it right

Zipper, its a match, they look inseperable..

So which one are you backing and which one you laying?

this is rodia we are talking about

this is big odds for him

Zipper post your p&l ta

Using Buratino as a form guide is pointless IMO. Against LOI/KOR he was racing over 5 furlongs, which was an inadequate trip and jockeys do look after 2yo once they are beat, especially if they know its going to be better over further.

It is a sprint and both prices are desperate now. I backed LOI last night but only in my multi. I will be having a small ew Ajaya as the price looks very tasty, as the horse it lost to went in again at Chelmsford last night and the fourth has also since won, giving him the beating of the Given horse today. Throw in that Haggas has won this in the past with 16/1 shot Approve, I think the 20/1 is much more value 80 place 20 win.

I smell a rat today as it looks too easy

Good luck

koikeeper the race is  best part of 2 hours away  I only bet or lay last 3 mins... watch and learn..
10 mins to me  any race is antipost ...

All this  Horlicks  re backing a horse to win the say St Leger today June 18th   the nag could be dead or a n/r
get the drift

Anyone got an Enigma machine spare for Zips posts

Jun 18, 2015 -- 12:40PM, koikeeper wrote:

Zipper, its a match, they look inseperable..So which one are you backing and which one you laying?

They certainly don't look inseparable on form - KOR is 5-10 pounds better.

Already layed them both.    If the are both as good as each other, there is a chance they are both not as good as we may think.   Pointless trying to pick one as its guess work.

Just back the banker PLEASCACH instead

Im going for king of rooks

GB / Ascot 18th Jun / 14:30 5f Grp2    King of Rooks    Back    ***********    18-Jun-15
12:50         2.36    1,000.00         2.36    Not Settled


Much better price now!!

zipper, you dont have to bet in the race...

Its too close to call, so a race to leave alone, watch and enjoy... there is no CERT running.

There will be at 14:33 though Koi

Guys  your guessing...  name the fav post time 2.30

So are you saying you are going to back whatever is favourite Zipper?

t road.....but the form line you are taking was the favs 3rd race and the 2nd jollies debut........dont most horses come on 5 or 10 ibs for their debut.........the fav certainly did

Thunder, sorry to disagree, but if you think KOR is 10LB better ... then its the bet of the century...
the clock says the other one is the quicker horse on only its 1st run.. and can only improve....like I said too close to call for me, GL

i agree with koi think it will be very close between them

bannahan   ive got to take a view why  only 2 lays today at Ascot but this  5.00   11/1 the field will sort the men from the boys

zipper 18 Jun 15 12:59
bannahan   ive got to take a view why  only 2 lays today at Ascot but this  5.00   11/1 the field will sort the men from the boys

Or the shrewdies from the mugs

"got to take a view"??

Why?

Don't be greedy and just back the one you fancy for a place----free money

Could come down to the difference between Dettori or Buick

koi.......hannon 2yos have awful so far.......thats got to be a worry

Cardiff, I have no interest in the race and will just be watching...a few hot pots were well beat yesterday..

i do know someone connected with the yard and there are two sides ... one thinks king of the rooks will win and the other lot even more strongly that the second fav will win .. this is based on course form and a fast time .. hes going to be backing the second fav .. Myself i tend not to punt hannon horses they are usually over bet as is todays case and they never win when i back them .im like you koi watching ... but with no real interest ..

bannahan  got to take a view ...why
ok today  6 races at Ascot   the all in

2 other meeting today  mickey mouse   /.. 3 tonight  Donald duck   its Ascot   proper horses win or lose

right now 11/8  ,,,2/1   20/1 bar  will they flip flop

Kemo sabe ... Hannon trains em both  and the stable cannot split  them   but the stop watch can

Stable will know just not telling us.

zipper - the professionals will take the 5l beating Rooks gave to Buratino over the stop watch here, the only flip flop you'll see is when you have enough pennies saved to finally buy some footwear, imo...

aviboyd  so your saying if  Buratino  had been it this race  it would be a 3 way go  .. million bar 3

hold fire, nevison says it's now called king of rocks so you make sure you're on the right one

Lol

zipper ... i have no knowledge of time im the man who said to my trainer look this horse can run 5f in 59.5seconds why therefore does it need held up ... just let it forget about the other horses you seem think it needs to sit behind and just get from a2b in 59.5secs ... if it does that tell me why it wont win as all the other horses can only run it in 61 secs ... he said its not as simple as that... since that moment time has been a an irevellance

think this waterloo bridge could beat them both, trading under bookies on here as well, a good sign

oh dear this thread stinks of betting addicts who can't leave a race alone

17 vs 18/1.  trade it and watch if you like ...

well sir bond i can assure y i havnt had a bet in the race ,,, yet the comments and views are interesting

Log Out won a class 2 on it's only run at Ascot - end of April
King Of Rooks ran in class 3 mdn at Ascot and finished 3rd

KOR then ran another two races winning both clss 4 mdn (6f) & Listed (5f). It beat Burantino who is definitely not his best at 5f.

So KOR has done his stuff winning a listed event and can enhance his CV by a placing in Group company today.

I reckon Log Out is the better horse which is why they have saved it for Ascot

kemo  that's was a good  point
it looks match  ok iv  put a 2k bet in to win  Log out island  aint laying
the other ... so far been matched  for £1265...rest is still up there . but post time  sure the guys will take it

out  now  class of wine enjoy the race

I think King of Rooks will win and it does look slight overpriced? As for those on here going about Richard Hughes saying that Log Out Island is the better horse and one he would ride if he had the choice. How did IVAWOOD get on yesterday? The guy was practically saying it was a cert.   So, I have learnt over the years to take whatever jockeys say with a pince of salt and it has stood me in very good stead regarding my betting on Horse Racing.

very nearly joint favs

Took each other on - stupid fools.

Boom!!

form a queue, 18/1 the reward

Rodia done his balls again

money well spent from the men in dresses again

shame the plaice lays didnt come in, had chances a furlong out

zipper    18 Jun 15 12:34 
Johnny / Aviboyd  you guys   BACK The 1..3..4..7..8..9..10..11
that's the rest  when the race is over   post your winnings 
my guess  it will be zero .. you lost 8 times .. not a good start to the day

yet again the match scenario ruined this week

zipper you could stop a jet fighter

got the wrong  but the clock was right   log out island beat king of rocks 2nd and 3rd ...winner was a skinner for  the books

like the other day when the top 2 couldn't be beat

Richard Hughes must be laughing his ass off.  They cut each others throat.

hulk. wd.

Race spoiled by tactics.Unless you're Irish!

strid ive heard that before   but ive been here since  06  jul 02.. get it right  more times than I get it wrong   other wise you cannot go 13 years ... seen plenty not last 5 years

Buick & Dettori's rides

Like I posted earlier the place bets were free money

0.26
0.42
both to place  ok they placed  but unless your betting  £££££ u won a bag of chips

got to go now  2 certs  to run       (I think ..hope )

zipper i've actually been here since 2004

i could count on one hand what you have said that makes any sense on here

Zipper 100 years old and still not worked this game out, its about not losing not rocket science is it. With so many doubts that were the only bet in the race unless like you you're a guesser.

how many times have i posted facts that dispute the inane sound bytes you spout on here on a daily basis ?

guys the spot watch don't lie  that's race was slow   ok the front 2 went to hard   did each other  the winner next time its a lay

What even if its 1/10 in a 3 runner race, you do no favours for young uns just learning the game!!!

lady  don't know why I bother with prick heads like you
first I am 70 years young
second  ive  seen more than you
third   its a good bet ive forgotten my than you will ever know
forth  you a waste of space
5 lump on this cert    time test    ok it short   but what price would you go

6. You know jack **** HTH

The jockey 'Richard' should have retired at the end of last year.

ladycarla  experience comes with age  .. sorry   your only a kid

time test blow  in  but what does zip know

Thanks for the well kept tip Even the first timers could pick that one.

ladycala ....this gold cup  put up or shut up the winner is a cert..,
50 you post know , 100 you don't beat me you on lady

yes zipper...the winner is a cert

zipper you have posted on this forum that your 3/1, 7/2 shots that are certs win about 90% of the time

it's things like this that make me despair, you are not joking either, you really are trying to put across this notion.

their should be an entrance exam for different grades of the forum

ladycala seen  plenty of your post heres my take

1    if you re a punter , could not pick your nose

2    if you are a jockey  , you could not ride a bike

3    if you are a trainer  .. you could not train a pig to be greedy

4    pack the game in

cart or cert?

experience comes with age

A shame that maturity apparently doesn't.

fcuk me i'm posting their instead of there now

need a cold drink and a lie down

strid  its all there   lump on this cert 5.00  ok its 12/1 the field   but I go on the spot watch

Just name the thing ya lemon

bannahan,,, why should I put cash in your bank  when you call  me a lemon   pick your own  plenty of lemons on the tree........................ dick head

Hey Bungle seen plenty of your posts and there all s h i t e.

You spout so much s h i t e it's embarrassing, this cert that cert come on what does zippy know snooze snooze snooze.

Trust me zip..... I wouldn't be backing it