graham cunningham tips the jolly in almost every race

jim mcgrath is the same...........thats why the 2 dont work...........and putting micky fitz with either of them is not the answer ...bring back johnny franks

I like how fitz points you to the clues,why the horse won,after the race

watched a time form guy on atr during the week

the amount stats he came out with for each horse,was encyclopaedia

I'd go fcuking insane if i did that,he must spend hours

the results weren't any better

cunningham is big into the official rating of these horses......but then youre going to be backing horses always at the top of the market........i have noticed when he very rarely goes for a big price it never wins and mostly down the field

Cardiff, the ratings are just a form interpretation made by the handicapper, aren't they.

So all he's really doing is blindly following someone else's opinion - you might as well put Ashleigh or HardestGame up...

Like most in the racing media he's just going through the motions and collecting his cheque,,,

3.45 limoto, graham lee, 0-15 rides 3yr old group races 5 seasons?

Hope you like 99s Carddiff

3.45 limoto, graham lee, 0-15 rides 3yr old group races 5 seasons?


your point?

his first charity bet...........jolly...........well beat

graham fancies the jolly in the derby.........theres a surprise

Golden Horn this Golden Horn that good lord.

Handicapper wont stop red barron running well.

Likes RED BARON.

Knew my bet was done for,as soon as the goon GC, couldn't stop mentioning it

music m\s 2nd charity bet............last...........or 2\1 JOLLY

limato drifting bookies want it?

GC

sorry duncan, g lee 0-16

GC done his conkers there chasing red baron loses hmmm?

GC the blokes a key hunt who only keeps his job by licking a  r se

deadbrain59  • May 30, 2015 3:50 PM BST 


sorry duncan, g lee 0-16Grin


As stats go that's 1 hell of a load of bollax with regards to G.Lee riding a winner in 3yr old group races.

sorry duncan, g lee 0-16


your point?

tom lees dads a bookie.

I expect Limato to be a lot better on proper summer ground - GC

After trainer stating the fact and everyone knowing this anyway.

geoffm ,racing post

u backed it?

He seems to go on about every fav before a race as though it's Frankel

stats were haydock.

watched dave yates on the freeview ruk........him and graham cunningham could be twins........they are both stealing a living.....

They all are.

sectional timing on turf does not work.does on dirt.

Whether he's tipping favs or whatever, just wish he'd tip them elsewhere.
His patronising voice and smug grin (at least I think it's a grin) SO Fickin irritating.

PERSHAD,,every race,form, trainer, ,breeding,every horse in each race,.mute.

He can't be tipping the jolly in every race as he hardly ever tips a winner for goodness sake! Didn't he go through the whole Cheltenham festival in 2013 without tipping a winner?

It says it all about his ability as a form analyst that Coral pay him money to appear on their voice network giving tips to the people in their shops.

Same story the equally contemptible Yates at Ladbrokes...

he tipped one yesterday but before i could get a lay in and press confirm it had drifted 3 points

fast pic boys clearing up on C4 tips imo

they are no more experts than me and you ,most repeating stats that are freely avaiable to anyone who,s interested in looking them up,the likes of yifter who no,s he,s a chancer will no he,ll get pelters for putting up losers by the likes of me so will always pick from the front of the market in the hope of the , [[throw as much shoite, syndrome]in the hope of landing a few winners and justifying his job wheres as francome was a more social punter as i call them was happy to put up 30 losing horses and landing the odd bullseye at big odds,
yiifter,jimbo etc no full well on staurdays at the big meetings the front of the market is absolutly strangled and should never be putting favs up even if they win

Eddie Freemantle the best if there is one IMO. But picking a winner in every race is impossible whoever you are and doing it well.

Should rephrase, impossible to really do it that well (other than throwing around ideas for every race)

LOL ,the shoe maybe best at picking over priced horses[ in his eyes ] to finish in the 1st 6 [ out run their price,in those eyes of his ]but for picking winners i,d say he,s at the bottom of any list

they shouldnt be picking winners , thats our job

they should be there to give the angles and info to help build a picture instead of trying to be clever

racing needs interesting people like mordin , people who think outside the box and can really teach something , or ex trainers jockeys who really know the sport

i could present ch4 , if it ran well last time and likes the ground it should win , easy

you wouldnt get bruce forsyth presenting or analyzing football , you get ex players managers who know the game and see what punters miss

ex trainers, LOL, brought up  and encouraged to decieve punters for 50 years, now you want them payed to help punters, LOL,
you,ve more chance of winning the lottery than stoutey pointing you in the direction of a birds nest,

It's an interesting aspect of the analysis is the issue of deception and trainers' intentions indeed. There was once the comm said 'running for a mark' about a horse, and that had to be seen as a pretty dodgy comment pre-race, but it was probably spot on!

There was a 'one for another day' in the rp comments yesterday. Hughes was onboard, hannon actually had the fav but think frankie was riding, hughes was 3rd.

RP quite often has the 'better when handicapping' type spotlight comments - essentially that's saying 'not trying' isn't it?

'schooling in public' would be a good one to actually here these 'experts' mention after some of the jumps racing.

gc tips the obvious form horse,its the dot to dot of form study,he tips ones that have proven everything,he picks the sort of horse you would do when you  first started to understand the form.his trust in the obvious is child like.he then sits there all smug because hes worked out that the only group one winner  at the trip and on the going in the race is his selection.when you realise its not that simple you re assess how you look at the form - but alas he dosent.

Eddie Freemantle the best if there is one IMO. But picking a winner in every race is impossible whoever you are and doing it well.


LOL ,the shoe maybe best at picking over priced horses[ in his eyes ] to finish in the 1st 6 [ out run their price,in those eyes of his ]but for picking winners i,d say he,s at the bottom of any list

Eddie Fremantle used to be in my tipping tables, until he stopped tipping in the Racing Post. If he weas still tipping, he would be 3rd in the list, so he's no slouch by any means.

As an aside I saw him at Thirsk last Wednesday. You can't miss thos shoes !

comingupthehill - the fact is of course you need to factor in price, rather than just whether each horse will win, which is the thing the summarisers often seem to neglect to discuss much at all.

prob because that's the hardest bit to get a good handle on - however, as I pointed out above, doing every single race is impossible really.

Stu, 'value' to the total guessers who appear on these programmes is any horse over 6-1...

Does he still p@imp for OK Korals?

cunningham is de facto a bookies rep---always on lookout for next junket to US or wherever. Of all of them, he's least entitled to adopt that grating cocky tone

"you wouldnt get bruce forsyth presenting or analyzing football , you get ex players managers who know the game and see what punters miss"
But isn't that part of the reason why they got Fitz?  And he is one of the biggest turn offs there is....

tbh I don't believe a guy like GC can help himself, he will always pick the fav because of his way  of thinking.

The fav in many  cases will have the best  form or what looks likely to have the best chance but form is just a GUIDELINE. Punters need to think for themselves and essentially  understand that most of the time the form book does not replicate itself, it cannot foresee the conditions of the race ahead, pace, ground etc etc.

Hes lazy and just  looks a the likes of Golden Horn and says just look at the Dante, will take some beating, lazy.

FWIW I think GH should be bigger, the ground is coming right for him but I don't believe he'll get  home. you need to take a stance here, hes currently 13/8 and there are simply  too many  unknowns in this race , numerous well bred middle distance pedigrees and talented horses to be taking that  price. if he wins half the track, currently as it stands, unless u know hes the next sea the stars its a bad 13/8 shot and I couldnt back him.

EPICURUS is a MASSIVE price. Will stay, MAY improve for better ground being by rail link, top trainer. Whats not to like, let the fav win at that  price.


gl

pricewise, said he backed the oaks winner, but didnt show on his site.

dont think he gave it a mention yesterday...........did he tip it in the 1000

cunningham is de facto a bookies rep---always on lookout for next junket to US or wherever. Of all of them, he's least entitled to adopt that grating cocky tone


Absolutely right - but the obscenity of the fact that he's sending his invoices in to Coral didn't seem to remotely cross his mind when he was supposedly 'interrogating' Simon Clare about the scandalous Grand National SP percentages on C4 recently...