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denathorn
25 Apr 15 16:37
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Poor McCoy got stitched right up there lol, Jonjo couldn't train a dog to sit down.
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Report ima_mazed66 April 25, 2015 10:50 PM BST
Yet somehow managed to train a Cheltenham Gold Cup, Grand National, Irish Grand National, Welsh Grand National,  RSA Chase, Lexus Chase and numerous other big race winners for McCoy, as well as several Cheltenham Festival winners (25 in total)and Aintree GN meeting winners for numerous other jockeys, plus a Royal Ascot winner too, just for good measure.
Report denathorn April 25, 2015 11:00 PM BST
With his backers he is sure to find the odd gem, however as a trainer he is absolute wank, a horrid trainer.
Report hello :-) April 25, 2015 11:09 PM BST
thank youself lucky to have witnessed the legend , sad day for racing
Report ima_mazed66 April 25, 2015 11:12 PM BST
The numerous big race successes he has had would suggest otherwise and I expect it can be kind of annoying when the facts get in the way of your argument?

Cheltenham Festival winners:

More of That    2014    Ladbrokes World Hurdle
Taquin du Seuil    2014    JLT Novices' Chase
Holywell    2014    Baylis & Harding Affordable Luxury Handicap Chase
Holywell    2013    Pertemps Final Handicap Hurdle
Synchronised    2012    Betfred Cheltenham Gold Cup Chase
Sunnyhillboy    2012    Fulke Walwyn Kim Muir Challenge Cup Handicap Chase
Alfie Sherrin    2012    JLT Speciality Handicap Chase
Albertas Run    2011    Ryanair Chase
Albertas Run    2010    Ryanair Chase
Wichita Lineman    2009    William Hill Trophy Handicap Chase
Albertas Run    2008    Royal & SunAlliance Chase
Butler’s Cabin    2007    National Hunt Chase Challenge Cup
Drombeag    2007    Christie’s Foxhunter Chase Challenge Cup
Wichita Lineman    2007    Brit Insurance Novices’ Hurdle
Black Jack Ketchum    2006    Brit Insurance Novices’ Hurdle
Creon    2004    Pertemps Final Handicap Hurdle
Native Emperor    2004    National Hunt Chase Challenge Cup
Iris’s Gift    2004    bonusprint.com Stayers’ Hurdle
Inching Closer    2003    Pertemps Final Handicap Hurdle
Sudden Shock    2003    National Hunt Chase Challenge Cup
Spectroscope    2003    JCB Triumph Hurdle
Rith Dubh    2002    National Hunt Chase Challenge Cup
Master Tern    2000    Vincent O’Brien County Handicap Hurdle
Front Line    1995    National Hunt Chase Challenge Cup
Danny Connors    1991    Coral Golden Hurdle Final

Aintree GN Winners:

Don’t Push It    2010    John Smith’s Grand National   

Grade 1 Winners:

Holywell    2014    Mildmay Novice's Chase    Aintree
Taquin du Seuill    2012    Challow Novices Hurdle    Newbury
Synchronised    2012    Betfred Cheltenham Gold Cup Chase    Cheltenham
Synchronised    2011    Lexus Chase    Leopardstown
Albertas Run    2011    Ryanair Chase    Cheltenham
Backspin    2010    sportingbet Supports Heros Charity Challow Novices’ Hurdle    Newbury
Albertas Run    2010    Ryanair Chase    Cheltenham
Albertas Run    2010    John Smith’s Melling Chase    Aintree
Albertas Run    2008    Royal & SunAlliance Chase    Cheltenham
Exotic Dancer    2008    Lexus Chase    Leopardstown
Refinement    2007    Dunboyne Castle Hotel & Spa Champion Stayers’ Hurdle    Punchestown
Black Jack Ketchum    2006    Citroen C6 Sefton Novices’ Hurdle    Aintree
Wichita Lineman    2006    Ballymore Properties Challow Novices’ Hurdle    Newbury
Refinement    2005    Paddy Power Champion INH Flat Race    Punchestown
Lingo    2004    ladbrokes.com Tolworth Hurdle    Sandown
Iris’s Gift    2004    bonusprint.com Stayers’ Hurdle    Cheltenham
Rhinestone Cowboy    2004    Martell Cognac Aintree Hurdle    Aintree
Rhinestone Cowboy    2004    Ballymore Properties Champion Stayers’ Hurdle    Punchestown
Cherub    2004    Colm McEvoy Auctioneers Champion Four Year Old Hurdle    Punchestown
Spectroscope    2003    JCB Triumph Hurdle    Cheltenham
Iris’s Gift    2003    Martell Cognac Sefton Novices’ Hurdle    Aintree
Quazar    2003    Emo Oil Champion Hurdle    Punchestown
Intersky Falcon    2003    John James McManus Memorial Hurdle    Tipperary
Intersky Falcon    2003    Jobs@Pertemps City Christmas Hurdle    Kempton
Miros    2002    Gerrard Tolworth Hurdle    Warwick
Quazar    2002    Event Centre Champion Four Year Old Hurdle    Punchestown
Intersky Falcon    2002    Pertemps Christmas Hurdle    Kempton
Coolnagorna    2002    Stan James Challow Novices’ Hurdle    Newbury
Hunt Hill    1998    Finale Junior Hurdle    Chepstow

Major Race Winners:

Shutthefrontdoor    2014    **** Irish Grand National Chase    Fairyhouse
Johns Spirit    2013    Paddy Power Gold Cup Chase    Cheltenham
Tominator    2013    John Smith’s Northumberland Plate    Newcastle
Well Sharp    2013    Ascot Stakes    Ascot
Get Me Out of Here    2012    Keelings Irish Strawberry Hurdle    Fairyhouse
Albertas Run    2011    Betfred Monet’s Garden Old Roan Chase    Aintree
Synchronised    2011    Coral Welsh National    Chepstow
Can’t Buy Time    2010    victorchandler.com Chase    Cheltenham
Get Me Out of Here    2010    totesport Trophy Hurdle    Newbury
Synchronised    2010    John Smith’s Midlands Grand National    Uttoxeter
Ringaroses    2010    John Smith’s smithythehorse.com Handicap Hurdle    Aintree
Can’t Buy Time    2009    totesport.com Masters Handicap Chase    Sandown
Sunnyhillboy    2009    Silver Cross Handicap Hurdle    Aintree
Nostringsattached    2009    totesport.com Summer Plate    Market Rasen
Albertas Run    2009    Amlin 1965 Chase    Ascot
Albertas Run    2008    John Smith’s Reynoldstown Novices’ Chase    Ascot
Sunnyhill Boy    2008    betinternet.com Handicap Hurdle    Sandown
Wichita Lineman    2007    Ballymore Properties Novices’ Hurdle    Cheltenham
Exotic Dancer    2007    Letheby And Christopher Chase    Cheltenham
Crocodiles Rock    2007    Tote Text Betting 60021 Standard Open National Hunt Flat Race    Newbury
Albertas Run    2007    EBF Sunderlands National Hunt Novices’ Handicap Hurdle Final    Sandown
Butler’s Cabin    2007    Powers Whiskey Irish Grand National    Fairyhouse
Two Miles West    2007    John Smith’s Handicap Hurdle    Aintree
Exotic Dancer    2007    Betfair Bowl Chase    Aintree
Albertas Run    2007    John Smith’s Extra Cold Handicap Hurdle    Aintree
Black Jack Ketchum    2007    John Smith’s Hurdle    Wetherby
Buck Whaley (DH)    2006    totesport Lanzarote Handicap Hurdle    Carlisle
Fire Dragon    2006    H.B.L.B. Cleeve Hurdle    Sandown
Black Jack Ketchum    2006    Citroen C6 Sefton Novices’ Hurdle    Aintree
Refinement    2006    John Smith’s Extra Cold Handicap Hurdle    Aintree
Hasty Prince    2006    Betfred Million Handicap Hurdle    Sandown
Knife Edge    2006    Horse and Hound Cup    Stratford
Exotic Dancer    2006    Paddy Power Gold Cup Chase    Cheltenham
Exotic Dancer    2006    ****.com Gold Cup    Cheltenham
Black Jack Ketchum    2006    Mears Group Relkeel Hurdle    Cheltenham
Bold Bishop    2005    Beards Jewellers Cup    Cheltenham
Black Jack Ketchum    2005    Brit Insurance Novices’ Hurdle    Cheltenham
Exotic Dancer    2005    Cheltenham Novices’ Chase    Cheltenham
Diamant Noir    2004    skybet.com River Don Novices’ Hurdle    Doncaster
Hasty Prince    2004    Concept Hurdle    Sandown
Ar Muin Na Muice    2003    EBF Crandon Park Stud Mares Novices’ Hurdle Final    Newbury
Clan Royal    2003    Martell Cognac Sainsbury’s Topham Chase    Aintree
Master Tern    2003    Martell Cognac V.S. Thresher Chase    Aintree
Hasty Prince    2003    Tote Silver Handicap Hurdle    Chepstow
Dark Room    2003    betfair.com Grand Sefton Chase    Aintree
Clan Royal    2003    Tote Becher Chase    Aintree
World Wide Web    2003    Paddy Power Handicap Chase    Leopardstown
Sudden Shock    2002    Martell Handicap Hurdle    Aintree
Carbury Cross    2002    Martell V.S. Handicap Chase    Aintree
Shamawan    2002    Allied Irish Bank Chase    Ascot
Mini Sensation    2002    Coral Welsh National    Chepstow
Water Font    2001    City of Perth Gold Cup    Perth
Legal Right    2001    Tommy Whittle Chase    Haydock
Radiation    2000    Chivas Regal Chase    Aintree
Legal Right    2000    Tote Silver Cup    Ascot
Legal Right    1999    Elizabeth Hitchins Memorial Chase    Newbury
Legal Right    1999    Tripleprint Gold Cup    Cheltenham
Generals Boy    1993    Horse and Hound Cup    Stratford
Gipsy Fiddler    1990    Windsor Castle Stakes    Ascot
Vicario di Bray    1989    Daily Mail Champion Hurdle Trial    Haydock
Report denathorn April 25, 2015 11:21 PM BST
16:25 SANDOWN, 25 APR 2015
2m 4f

bet365 Handicap Hurdle (Class 2)  (4YO plus)

BOX OFFICE

3rd

Only had 2 months to prepare a farewell winner for the best jockey to have ever sat on a national hunt horse.
Report IrisDeBalme April 25, 2015 11:22 PM BST
yeah - but you think he would end the fairy tale the way it should have ended... even JP tuned up
Report hello :-) April 25, 2015 11:38 PM BST
yes , im pretty positive all racing fans will look back and remember he didn't ride a winner in last race Laugh
Report ima_mazed66 April 25, 2015 11:42 PM BST
So did Paul Nicholls and could Nicky Henderson not have put him on a winner in the last, but the trainers don't choose the conditions of the races and besides, I'm not really sure an 18-20 runner ultra competitive handicap hurdle is the best kind of race to ensure a winner on any occasion anyway.

You can't really win on here though and no doubt if McCoy had won on it, plenty would have been calling it a fix and a jockeys race, with accusations of the trainer and owner hiding the horse's true ability too thrown in just for good measure.

Damned if they do and damned if they don't.
Report Rondetto April 26, 2015 8:13 AM BST
He didn't want to ride Polly Peachum in the last.

Yesterday was what it was meant to be a celebration of his career and a display of loyalty

His mounts had chances but no one with a brain really expected him to ride a winner. Box Office 5/2 fav was a joke.

AP wanted his last mount to be for Jonjo and JP who to him are a lot more to him than just a trainer and an owner

As far the gentleman who started this thread goes Jonjo's dog has more brains than him.

Jonjo gets thing landing on his driveway with a tag saying "Train this" round their necks that would be better placed on Blackpool Beach and still manages to get a win or 2 out of them.

We are talking about a man who somehow manged to sweeten up and win a race at the Festival with the biggest nutjob imaginable in Butler's Cabin

ima_mazed66's list speaks for itself and you can add to that the fact he won just about everything there was to win as a jockey.

He fought his way back from cancer, trains over 100 winners every year, having known him for years he is an absolute gem of a guy with complete loyalty to his friend boss JP

The fact he wouldn't show you a birds nest when it comes to JP's horses annoys punters but then they don't pay the bills so they mouth of like cry babies
Report denathorn April 26, 2015 8:32 AM BST
Sorry Rondetto, I thought you had something relevant to say.
Report elise April 26, 2015 8:40 AM BST
have a day off
Report holywell April 26, 2015 9:00 AM BST
The second line of your post is spot on, add the day was also one big party for his fellow jockeys and connections.

People were talking about his last rides, their prices etc., would the other jockeys let him win on his last ride. If that was going to happen they certainly wouldn't have chosen an eighteen runner competitive handicap hurdle.

In essence he has been semi-retired for weeks.
Report portmanpark April 26, 2015 10:10 AM BST
dont think it mattered the horse lost.........it was all about the day and to celebrate a great jockey
Report paulie wallnuts April 26, 2015 10:23 AM BST
you just know when somebody agrees with ima mazed.....he has to be a moron....its a given.....ive blocked that ima mazed many moons ago.....when he used be ranting about that slumdog Fallon....
now its time for this rondetto idiot to join him....
Report patsyhall April 26, 2015 11:05 AM BST
I'm sure Jonjo is reading this at home thinking I have messed up
Report ph. April 26, 2015 11:31 AM BST
that ran well yesterday,without all the fuss it would have been an 8/1 poke and ran very well.
Report hornshoe1 April 26, 2015 11:49 AM BST
26 Apr 15 11:05 possibly not Patsy.  Boxoffice prob. wasn't plan A   Finding a G. National winner  was a toughish task though!.

On balance ending in front of a big crowd in a fair standard race was the call win (preferably) or lose and plenty of other scenarios could have been disastrous.
Report ZEALOT April 26, 2015 12:50 PM BST
I LIKE HIS yellow gum shield
Report rewired April 26, 2015 3:02 PM BST
i am pretty sure if ap wanted to bow out on a winner
it would have been planned previous
as for jonjo would never trust this guy,but i am pretty sure he knows the time of day when it comes to training....
over the years jp/jonjo/ap......when short price always a lay...........
Report ZEALOT April 26, 2015 4:01 PM BST
Please explain why or how he is the best???

Because I d like to know ---  I cannot see and have never seen anything , apart from his strength in a finish , that no other jockey ca do .

Timm murph tomo is miles better , never mi d loads more
Report paulie wallnuts April 26, 2015 4:31 PM BST
Ya timmy is definitely better.....especially when his rug doesnt slip over his eyes.....
Report hello :-) April 26, 2015 4:38 PM BST
less u say the better walnuts imo
Report ima_mazed66 April 26, 2015 5:00 PM BST
paulie wallnuts     26 Apr 15 10:23 
you just know when somebody agrees with ima mazed.....he has to be a moron....its a given.....ive blocked that ima mazed many moons ago.....when he used be ranting about that slumdog Fallon....
now its time for this rondetto idiot to join him....


Are you familiar with the expression the common denominator paulie numbnuts? You might want to try looking a little closer to home for an idiot, considering if you took an IQ test it would come back as negative. Laugh
Report jmdc April 27, 2015 2:36 PM BST
However, Jonjo did train McCoy's last ever winner - Capard King.
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