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eastayrshire
17 Mar 15 21:27
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In short, 85 yr old mum takes up their Mullins offer and wins, they refusing to pay saying linked to another account, presumably mine, I live in different house different details etc.
This after getting her to send numerous documents etc, what a bunch of amateurs, this was a genuine bet from a genuine person who met their requirements.
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Report Big_Issue March 17, 2015 8:42 PM GMT
There is certainly a shyster somewhere in this tale, but I don't think it's 32Red or even your granny, unless she's a multi accounter too?
Report flukes March 17, 2015 8:45 PM GMT
Big Issue, which bookmaker do you represent?
Report millhouse March 17, 2015 8:51 PM GMT
Great story to take to your local paper, if you want to give 32 a problem, eastayrshire...
Report Send.in.the.clowns March 17, 2015 8:52 PM GMT
should pay her in werthers originals
Report eastayrshire March 17, 2015 8:58 PM GMT
Big Issue I can assure you this is genuine , utterly outrageous they can seemingly arbitrarily steal money. You would think they are playing these offers scooping the losers and disputing % of winners.
Report Send.in.the.clowns March 17, 2015 9:00 PM GMT
32 red clearly only want casino wagons
Report Big_Issue March 17, 2015 9:01 PM GMT
Get your Granny to ring them then...simples!
Report Big_Issue March 17, 2015 9:03 PM GMT
She can say she was round your house on a visit from the Old Folks Home, when she fancied a flutter and being a bit if an IT whizz, opens accounts and bets online as it's easier than trying to walk to the shops to get her bet on, what with her bad hip and she's 85 you know.
Report eastayrshire March 17, 2015 9:03 PM GMT
She's deaf as a post, presumably if her bets had lost they would have refunded , utterly utterly despicable.
Report Big_Issue March 17, 2015 9:05 PM GMT
She can tell them how she always bets Lester Piggot's horse or if he's not riding that nice Willie Carson.
Report eastayrshire March 17, 2015 9:06 PM GMT
Listen to you with your sweeping assumptions, the FACTS here are that she opened an account and met ALL their requirements, yes ALL. You sound foolish, just sayin.
Report Big_Issue March 17, 2015 9:13 PM GMT
You could take it to arbitration here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World%27s_Biggest_Liar
Report eastayrshire March 17, 2015 9:15 PM GMT
What an odd little man you are
Report johnn March 17, 2015 9:44 PM GMT
Two separate people in two separate houses who open accounts with different cards, and they refuse to pay.
I'm guessing there would be no problem taking bets, only paying them?
Disgraceful.
Report dr . atkins March 17, 2015 9:53 PM GMT
anyone would think you are one of these people who get people to sign up and just use the free bets
Report eastayrshire March 17, 2015 9:57 PM GMT
Yes I can understand that, but suspend your prejudice for a minute and imagine what I am saying is true.
Report johnn March 17, 2015 10:00 PM GMT
This seems ridiculous to me, despite various bits of sniping.
Two different cardholders, two different IP addresses, two different names, two different cards.
Surely this is a plain case of "welching" on a bet?
Report Cork Langer March 17, 2015 10:03 PM GMT
Put a call out for that Paul Haigh username guy who takes on cases for punters, he'd love to get stuck into them on behalf of your dear Mum I'm sure.
Report eastayrshire March 17, 2015 10:05 PM GMT
Thank you for your email.



I just wanted to respond to you to let you know your 32Red Sports account has now been successfully verified, as we have requested.

Unfortunately upon looking in more depth into your account details, we can see that the account has been linked to another 32Red sports account which has already claimed the Willie Mullins and free bet promotions.

This can be located in the terms of both these bonus as follows;



This promotion is strictly limited to one free bet per household even if there is more than one computer retained at the address. The identity of a user will be determined on the basis of all or any combination of the following: name, mailing address, e-mail address, IP address, credit/charge card number, computer, and any other form of identification which may be required.



As the winnings in your account have been derived from the free bonus I have removed these from your balance, although as a gesture of goodwill on our part, I have credited your initial deposit of £20 back into your balance for you to use for betting or to withdraw as you choose.
Report johnn March 17, 2015 10:06 PM GMT
"Gesture of goodwill"....ffs
Report eastayrshire March 17, 2015 10:06 PM GMT
Incredulous that they say refunding her own money is a gesture of goodwill, and less than coherent to boot.
Report saddo March 17, 2015 10:06 PM GMT
Did you take your lappy round so she could do the biz?
Report dr . atkins March 17, 2015 10:07 PM GMT
sorry can't have this thread 85 yr old women opening a account IF true the only reason she did was for the free bets that was not the her case closed my lord GUILTY
Report eastayrshire March 17, 2015 10:08 PM GMT
We are pleasd to say your account is verified but the winning bets you placed will not be valid , but cos we are massive douchebags as a gesture of goodwill we will give you your own money back.
Report johnn March 17, 2015 10:09 PM GMT
So, we shall let Dr Atkins be the sole judge of who, in our betting community, is allowed a free bet or not.
I refer you to the post of 22:00.
As far as I can see she has broken none of the rules, met all the conditions, and the company - for reasons real or imagined - have welched.
Report Cork Langer March 17, 2015 10:09 PM GMT
Hope you speak with more clarity than you type Dr...!
Report eastayrshire March 17, 2015 10:09 PM GMT
Atkins, incoherent
Report eastayrshire March 17, 2015 10:12 PM GMT
No she has a laptop in the house saddo, anyway welching on spurious IP address claims is just ridiculous when ALL conditions were met.
Report dave1357 March 17, 2015 10:18 PM GMT
pics of your mum or gtfo
Report dr . atkins March 17, 2015 10:21 PM GMT
eastayrshire you got a 85 yr old women to get you free bets its not a crime but don't cry like a baby when you get caught simple just like when a arber goes into a shop and wants to get on after fcking the shop for a while just wipe your mouth and start again.
Report eastayrshire March 17, 2015 10:22 PM GMT
Are you dyslexic?
Report saddo March 17, 2015 10:22 PM GMT
I agree with dr.atkins.
Report dr . atkins March 17, 2015 10:24 PM GMT
whats that got to do with you trying to get free bets and caught caught with your pants down ayrshire
Report eastayrshire March 17, 2015 10:25 PM GMT
lol yeah he speaks sense
Report dr . atkins March 17, 2015 10:36 PM GMT
how many 888 accounts did you get with the 88 pound of free bets ayrshire ? and all the other accounts got no problem with you doing that but don't come on here crying when you get found out.i see by the date april 06 that you have posted 98 times i think you know what you are doing ayrshire by that i mean you are no mug at the game (could be wrong) night
Report Big_Issue March 17, 2015 10:39 PM GMT
I bet his 85 year old granny has no idea what Willie is these days.....oops, sorry I meant who!

Ayrshire, you got caught, I know you jocks like to hang onto your bawbees but you are making a fool of yourself here.
Report eastayrshire March 17, 2015 10:40 PM GMT
Jesus , seriously, suspend your prejudices, assuming of course your cognitive function isn't as borked as your literary abilities.
Report Deltâ March 17, 2015 10:44 PM GMT
was does borked mean?
Report Cork Langer March 17, 2015 10:46 PM GMT
English language taking an awful battering on this thread, some people need to return to the classroom...!
Report eastayrshire March 17, 2015 10:46 PM GMT
Given the context most people even if they didn't know could hazard a guess, or DYOR.
Report dr . atkins March 17, 2015 10:48 PM GMT
i now know why i don't come on the horse racing forum full of people who don't know what they are doing or on the wind up i must beCrazy
Report Deltâ March 17, 2015 10:49 PM GMT
what does DYOR mean ..
Report Big_Issue March 17, 2015 10:50 PM GMT
Danny Dyor?
Report Cork Langer March 17, 2015 10:53 PM GMT
Now, now Delta don't push him too far, after all you're borked as it is...!
Report dr . atkins March 17, 2015 10:53 PM GMT
cork langer i dont give a fck about my spelling all i am intrested in is my P-L each mth
Report Cork Langer March 17, 2015 10:54 PM GMT
You need to find a sense of humour Dr...!
Report eastayrshire March 17, 2015 10:59 PM GMT
Now now don't be comin on ere saying anything you want to say, that Dr Atkins he be the arbiter on we dontcha know
Report Cork Langer March 17, 2015 11:02 PM GMT
The good Dr has been on his diet too long, turned him grumpy...!
Report dr . atkins March 17, 2015 11:05 PM GMT
ive got to 3.30am for the cricket shall we keep it going ayrshire until then or will you admit you put someone in to get a free bet simply really
Report dr . atkins March 17, 2015 11:07 PM GMT
not really cork just fed up with people moaning when they get caught out its happen to me plenty of times not getting bets on but i do put my cash down not trying to get loads of free bets
Report eastayrshire March 17, 2015 11:11 PM GMT
You make so many frivolous esoteric points giving a real insight into your psyche, you don't even realise it.
Report dr . atkins March 17, 2015 11:18 PM GMT
still you wont admit if the story is true that you put someone in for free bets
Report marko69 March 17, 2015 11:18 PM GMT
eastayrshire

The good doctor is just passing time before the cricket starts at 03:30, expect him to disappear around 12 when the gay channel comes on and the cricket will need to wait til 4 til he finishes off his late night buggering escapades
Report eastayrshire March 17, 2015 11:21 PM GMT
Lol I actually can't believe how he functions in society, his communication skills are actively confusing and his logic is completely unhinged.

Go an atko, say something coherent, I dare you.
Report doantwin2easy March 17, 2015 11:23 PM GMT
he's usually only passively confusing to be fair.
Report dr . atkins March 17, 2015 11:26 PM GMT
now we know scottish people are tight going by my trainer {hes scottish by the way]so i find you guilty of trying to get free bets and got caught
Report Cork Langer March 17, 2015 11:27 PM GMT
You're lucky you have only got until 3.30 am to kill time, it's St Pat's Day and I stupidly agreed to a swap with someone, doing voluntary work here until 8 in the morning...!
Admittedly no problems anticipated but staying awake can be difficult when you know you have to, especially knowing everyone you know is on the lash...!
Report dr . atkins March 17, 2015 11:28 PM GMT
its near midnight and all the nutters come out got to give kurt russell a call
Report eastayrshire March 17, 2015 11:29 PM GMT
Lol we managed different brackets there too, you're on the ropes now atko, very poor riposte with zero substance, anyway I'm feeling guilty taking the p1ss, I mean you no harm. My tale is true tho.
Report dr . atkins March 17, 2015 11:31 PM GMT
take my cap off to you cork langer voluntary work not for me
Report doantwin2easy March 17, 2015 11:31 PM GMT
good on you Cork Langer. If it's samaritans I'll be calling shortly.
Report saddo March 17, 2015 11:33 PM GMT
Not good embroiling an 85 yo lady in an unseemly argument for the sake a few quid imo.
Report halcyon days March 17, 2015 11:34 PM GMT
Laugh
Report Cork Langer March 17, 2015 11:34 PM GMT
Never thought it was for me either guys, but you reach a certain age and think you had best try and do some good just in case there is a heaven and it is based on your performance down here...!
Report halcyon days March 17, 2015 11:34 PM GMT
And he has got his ''score'' back !  Cool
Report halcyon days March 17, 2015 11:36 PM GMT
T & C's



rules a dem a read dem !
Report dr . atkins March 17, 2015 11:36 PM GMT
sorry ayrshire 85 yr old mum wants free bets for cheltenham could be a good local story that if true did she use your computer or does she have her own with betfair up and running
Report eastayrshire March 17, 2015 11:36 PM GMT
Yes if that were true, why would you assume supposition instead of facts? I can understand people suspecting multi accounts but fgs have you so little insight that simply assuming what you cannot know for sure is not conducive to any meaningful discussion.
Report eastayrshire March 17, 2015 11:37 PM GMT
Halcyon


The t an cs were met in full, I've said that in the post.
Report doantwin2easy March 17, 2015 11:38 PM GMT
well i for one have learnt some useful acronyms tonight.
Report Fashion Fever March 17, 2015 11:44 PM GMT
they have outed you

IBAS and youll get paid

account closed
Report halcyon days March 17, 2015 11:46 PM GMT
Sorry Eastie, only joshing !


Shyster's seems fair !
Report halcyon days March 17, 2015 11:49 PM GMT
Unusual Koddy, have I upset you ?....
Report Cork Langer March 17, 2015 11:51 PM GMT
Unless you possess Celtic blood of some description, every chance you have upset him HD...!
Report eastayrshire March 17, 2015 11:51 PM GMT
It is not possible for them to have "outed" me, yes it looks like arbitration if they won't  do the right thing , hassle tho.

Why can't people believe old people like a bet, to give u guys some context , my old mum watches Cheltenham avidly as I go every year, she also likes a small flutter, her neighbour does too, does this preclude them and or me from having a bet with 32red and availing ourselves of their offer?, no, I can assure you I have no desire to go to all the trouble of scamming free bets , I would merely like to see my old mum getting a smile at getting £100 from the bookies.
Report halcyon days March 17, 2015 11:53 PM GMT
Corky, good evening .


I pass the test then !
Report dr . atkins March 17, 2015 11:54 PM GMT
if you used the same computer you will have na chance
Report halcyon days March 17, 2015 11:54 PM GMT
Koddy, I keep asking you how the cricket's going ?....
Report Cork Langer March 17, 2015 11:55 PM GMT
Evening HD, he must have you confused with someone else then, not that it narrows it down any of course, given his army of enemies...!
Report Brother Mouzone March 18, 2015 12:02 AM GMT
Looks like your mam tried it on and already had an account with 32 red, she's prob got accounts in the neighbours name too.
Report halcyon days March 18, 2015 12:03 AM GMT
I gather he's anti English, but numerous boyo's have represented England at cricket !
Report THE-GHOST-OF-DICKIE-BIRD March 18, 2015 12:12 AM GMT
Oi oi its my southern european waif and strayLove
Report saddo March 18, 2015 12:13 AM GMT
op must be doing washing ironing and cooking, Economy7 kicks in at midnight.
Report THE-GHOST-OF-DICKIE-BIRD March 18, 2015 12:15 AM GMT
Do they still have econamy 7Shocked
Report dr . atkins March 18, 2015 12:17 AM GMT
kurt russell time
Report THE-GHOST-OF-DICKIE-BIRD March 18, 2015 12:18 AM GMT
Speaking of degenerates

Saddos al rightHappy
Report THE-GHOST-OF-DICKIE-BIRD March 18, 2015 12:20 AM GMT
Butchers ffsCryCry
Report ima_mazed66 March 18, 2015 12:52 AM GMT
I'm in the Skyb3t free bet club thing of whatever it's called and I've also told family and friends to do it to and I fully admit that I was the one running some of their accounts for them just to make them a few bob extra but then Skyb3t said the accounts were linked and gubbed some of them.

They seemed to suss this when my nephew would come over to watch a football match or a mate would come to mine on a Saturday to watch the racing and have a bet and use my desktop PC, or sometimes even their own laptop or phone but just used my Internet connection to do so. I really don't see the problem if these accounts are in different names, different postal addressees, different e-mail addresses and with different debit cards and bank account details and some of the family and friends were even female so it's hardly me with multiple accounts or identities.

They were all asked to provide documents to prove this and when they all did, Skyb3t still wouldn't have it and I argued then why bother asking for documents if they weren't willing to accept them or did they think they couldn't be provided? Plus if a mate comes over and asks can he log onto my Internet to place a bet, am I supposed to refuse him or tell him to either go home and do it or go outside scanning for any Wi-Fi signals and do it that way instead?

What does it even matter if I was placing the bets for them anyway just as long as they are real people and would be the ones keeping any winnings anyway? Can you imagine being in a supermarket and seeing an item on offer like say a BOGOF and buying it yourself and then phoning a family member or friend and asking if they want you to pick up some for them too, or telling them to get over there and get their own and the supermarket refusing to let them take up the offer just because I previously had?

It's only in the bookmaking industry that they can get away with these kind of things.
Report dukeofpuke March 18, 2015 1:43 AM GMT
its all corrupt as fck and when plod has finished with all this kiddie fiddling thing they are going to get you.you rancid corrupt fkers
Report breadnbutter March 18, 2015 6:34 AM GMT
dat an ivory poachers dog ?
Report halcyon days March 18, 2015 8:28 AM GMT
dat right, Deans dog !
Report Big_Issue March 18, 2015 9:02 AM GMT
Ima....you are right, in this day and age of public/private Wi-fi etc it's ridiculous to quote the 'same IP address' rule on these occasions. As you say can a mate not place a bet at my house when watching the footy or sat in the same pub using smart phones?

However, I believe they use further devices to ascertain if accounts are opened on the same PC, try googling iesnare. This is an invidious bit of intrusion from the online bookies that they insert into your flash device on your PC.

You can of course disable it, if you know how Cool
Report dave1357 March 18, 2015 9:13 AM GMT
One of the directors of the company that sells iesnare,(iovation) ran the fraud at ultimate bet - the irony is strong in that one.
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