win or lose Brian Harding hasnt a clue.....

A disgrace.

1.01....... for a score

dearie me, closing at line, woeful

Lucy gardner would ride a stronger finish

I did say this before the race was over.....

outridden by colliver
wd young joe you are becoming a jockey at last

yep, dreadful ride. gave the winner a start but the worst bit was coming on the outside of a horse that was jumping to the right. Then made a mess of the last and lost momentum. Woeful.

tried to be clever

Best horse won?

It is impossible to excuse willfully giving a 15 length start to your main rival in a 3-runner Chase. Disgusting ride. Very much doubt the best horse won tbh.

clueless

mr cunnigham said it jumped last fine, i thought it landed flat footed and lost momentum

No the best horse did not win....of course it didnt....

Harding was scared of putting the horse on the deck at the last.

Once bitten twice shy i guess.

Cunningham says it wasn't closing at the line

Time Harding retired.

cant wait for the day harding packs in
best ever season, evergreen etc blah blah blah load of bowlarks, he's 42 and its really showing

he also said it jumped last well, it landed like a sack of cement

Madness giving so much ground away. One mistake and you're cattled. And as for not going a length or so clear before the last, words fail me.

He got him out of his ground the ****g dope, sure no wonder the horse had nothing left having had to make up all that. Could easily have been 3 or 4 lengths closer the whole way and he would have hacked up. The jock is a ****g dope. thinks he's Paul Fckin Carberry. Well carberry is a genius of a rider and even he doesn't get it right all of the time so what chance a twerp like Brian Harding?

him and Thornton need to retire and quick...........

It was a disgraceful ride from start to finish.....somebody earlier said that gifting the biggest danger 15 lengths out the gate was shocking.....and they are spot on....
He should have been 4 lengths clear at the last ....not depending on a good jump....
Its no wonder Nicky Richards is no danger down south anymore.....

and as if you all believe jockeys mostly give 100% effort

When ST-D sat motionless on Zarkander earlier in the season when RDS was under pressure, so instead of kicking on and putting the race to bed and going to the final flight with say a 4L lead where he could even afford an error and still probably win, many on here were disagreeing with that view and yet here again was a perfect example why you don't sit when you can go on and give yourself that few lengths of a lead buffer when jumping the last to still hopefully recover from any mishaps.

Had the 2nd pinged it and landed running then it would have been deemed a cheeky ride, yet if the winner's jockey doesn't see the much better travelling eventual 2nd kick on then he will keep trying just in case, as opposed to accept 2nd himself early if the other horse does kick on.

There's not wrong with Brian Harding's riding ability in that he knows how everything should be done but like all of the others, he can made a poor judgment decision and that's what he did here.

Looked to have enough time to go past if good enough. That said, agree, could have had the horse closer throughout

The problem was that there was always a big chance what happened would happen. The favourite was as they say a nice horse, one with a big future. The last time heavy fall meant today was about building confidence and not holding a gun to the horses head.

Yes he should have won and was the best horse in terms of talent but a really bad ride, not in my opinion and probably the trainer was happy as he had a good experience.

Ima, it's about winning, we say we shouldn't let results dictate analysis but really who gives a ****.

The top jocks have that intangible thing that they know how to win, and make very few mistakes.

Harding is a self-indulgent fool. I hate vanity in a battle. I've seen Ruby's reigns all over the place in finishes, but he doesn't care how it looks so long as he wins.

God he really is useless....

oh dear

when you are having a bad day................

Sods bloody law.

It was poor judgement neil d and so I'm not really disagreeing with you or anyone else here but I don't think being so far out of his ground was all that significant in the end because the horse got there effortlessly, so it wasn't really a case of using it up to get there and then having nothing left, it was having to make sure it jumped the last and landed running and not have its momentum halted.

It didn't jumped the last well and because it was only upsides and not going into it with a lead, that was the poor judgement on Harding's part because it probably would have got going again and still won had he kicked on between the final two fences and fluffed the last with a lead.

Nice hcap mark for Aintree with confidence restored.

Deary me. Nursing a horse that stays five miles home. Got to pack the game in.

He appeared to get there effortlessly Ima, horses can often appear to do things effortlessly while taking a lot out of themselves. If it was effortless he'd have won. This is a decent 140 rated horse facing a fella who was handy enough over flights and he gives him 15 l out the gate and rides most of the race as if he ain't there. This ain't Faugheen Harding was on and he took a liberty. Neither he or the horse were good enough to be taking the piss.

paulie is correct,hardings useless

Not trying to be a d1ck here neil d but think you are overlooking that the that the jump at the last cost the horse despite it getting there effortlessly. It's that fluffed jump that has proved to be decisive when the horse dragged its hind legs through the final fence which and affected its momentum, coupled with the winner despite not going as well but landed running, meaning they went from side by side at the last just before the jump, to the winner nicking a length or two once both horses landed.

Shouldn't have put himself in that situation to be relying on a jump given his measure of superiority imo.

Ima, I'd say you reckon I'm underestimating the importance of the jump at the last, for me that was just the final nial in a race lost earlier, and I reckon you're underestimating the effect of having to make up all that ground giving 7lb.

nail*

i.e, had he jumped the last he'd have won and nothing would have been said except 'good ride', I acknowledge that but that is the intangible that the good jocks have that i was speaking of earlier. They just WIN. narrow margins but you're paid to come out the right side of them.

Paulie knows f*ck all, as usual.

There was no effect to make up that ground though neil d because the horse was running all over the winner and did it effortlessly but Harding's mistake was not to kick on between the last two flights. If I am underestimated any apparent effect the on the horse making up the ground despite it doing so in a canter, then why was it them able to close in on the winner all the way to the line having lost ground on it after the jump at the last?

Look at the winner of the 3:50 at Ayr where the jockey had that few lengths buffer going to the last flight and had the luxury of slowing into it, not jumping it especially well but still came over it with a lead that he then maintained to the line.

Making up that ground caused him to empty his tank and he then couldn't quicken after making not a great jump at the last. That is my take, no point in going any further as positions are entrenched.

OK fair enough, I just hope every horse I back at Cheltenham makes up ground as effortlessly, as then all they need is a decent jump at the least and it's game over.

Horses don't make up ground swinging on the bridle with the jockey sat motionless and then have it deemed as having emptied their tank and with nothing left. Harding could have hit the front and went on but instead chose not to and didn't even move on the horse until after the last, yet still then managed to close in on the winner despite apparently being on an empty tank.

I remember Harchibald making up ground effortlessly at Cheltenham,  and a few more besides, but their tanks were empty... Never mind, difference of opinion, good luck Ima

Just watched it again. Really was a terrible terrible ride. Whatever about giving the winner so much rope(probably thought it was going too quick in the conditions) but when he was upsides going down to the last you can see clearly that Brian Harmless takes a good tug 3 strides from the last fence and loses all momentum. Probably still thought the horse's class would see him through but as was said earlier he gave it a chance to go wrong and it did. Desperate ride.

This jockey has lost to much of my money now, he's s great rider of a horse but so clueless when he's in a race, sorry but no punter will remember you.

Not the best example there neil d if you don't mind me saying, as Harchibald tended to down tools once he hit the front and it certainly wasn't due to emptying that cost him the Champion Hurdle and let's face it, he still managed to split the winner Hardy Eustace and the 3rd Brave Inca, both Champion Hurdle winners and probably two of the gamest and toughest battling hurlers there has been. As it happens though, Paul Carberry kept Harchibald quite close to the pace for much of that race anyway.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtFXeEOLFrE

Do you also remember in the Christmas Hurdle at Kempton one year when McCoy on Straw Bear set out to make all and then took a pull late on to the let Harchibald head him and then when he downed tools again McCoy got SB up to out battle him? Yet in another Christmas Hurdle Rooster Booster was 12L clear two flights out, yet Harchibal still got up when Carberry made up that ground and only hit the front very late on. Harchibald was a bridle horse that had to be produced with perfect timing and not be put under pressure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmzbEW1oSWc

But yeah, it's all about opinions and we won't always agree with others and good luck to you too neil d.