LUCY GARDNER

glad of your interest in welfare m8

Racing under rules.it's all fair game.

14 days ???????

there seems to be somewhat of a smog descending.

is that the outcome? if so; unbelievable

is that the outcome? if so; unbelievable

She was bumping up and down in the saddle from two furlongs out,used the whip once,clearly saw the winner being driven clear.

There is no way she thought there was another circuit!

would that be long or short sighted?

lucy told the stewards she misjudged the distance,   
she got a 14 day ban.

eh????????????????????????

The Stewards held an enquiry into the running and riding of SIROP DE MENTHE (FR), ridden by Lucy Gardner, and trained by Susan Gardner, which was not asked for any effort on the run in before finishing second, beaten 4 ½ lengths for first place. They interviewed the rider and the trainer and heard a report from the Veterinary Officer. The rider stated that she had mistaken the race distance, thinking she had another circuit to go before the finish and therefore she had not ridden the gelding out. Having heard her evidence and viewed recordings of the race the Stewards found the rider in breach of Rule (B)59.3.2.2. They suspended her for 14 days as follows: Sunday 8, Monday 9, Tuesday 10, Wednesday 11, Thursday 12, Friday 13, Saturday 14, Sunday 15, Monday 16, Tuesday 17, Wednesday 18, Thursday 19, Friday 20 and Saturday 21 March 2015.

too weak

agree

< Sorry,I looked at the wrong race! Will have a look at the right one now.

14 days!!

That will stamp it out.

hardly consistent with macguire

pegheads on the line this time surely

She was bumping up and down in the saddle from two furlongs out,used the whip once,clearly saw the winner being driven clear.

I think you're watching the wrong horse/race.

There was no bumping, or use of whip at any point in the race.

how many days is fair for what was human error ?

Whoops, didn't see your post.

month

14 days is nothing to her ... she wouldn't even normally have a ride in that period anyways

money on the human?

14 days - that is a complete joke

Misjudged the distance?  Even a retardddddddddddddd wouldn't believe that!!!

Another example of jock/trainer/owner being allowed to do as they please, no wonder people are being driven away from the game, if the penalties were more severe then this carp wouldn't happen

sport is killing itself, its bookie fodder now

will never stop it though, happens in all walks of life . maybe 14 days isnt enough but however long she got wont stop the next one.

I dounbt if anyone apart from her mum would offer her a ride in the next three months let alone 14 days

...... apart from her partner or boosup

double agree Irish; month would seem to be the average.

14 days before today she had 2 rides.  so a fairly hefty penalty to pay ...

did they ask why she never went out for another circut then and was the 1st horse pulled up after the line, not compatable with somone thinking there was a lap to go,she should have thought look at that loon riding out with a circuit still to go,when did she realise she,d got it wrong,if we believe her obviously well before the line because she,d slowed to a trot by then

That was embarrassing. They had obviously laid the horse big

wht did she think the other 2 horses before the last were 40 yds wide if there was another circuit to go

horses dont tend to race the width of the hurdles if theres a circuit still to go, even if she made a mistake she must have known at the last hence her barely trotting over the line,so wht didnt she ride it soon as she realised

ps i dont think she,d have won anyway
wonder if she told her mum this will stay forever,

Race 6 - 4:40pm THE totepoolliveinfo.com HANDICAP HURDLE RACE (CLASS 4)
The Stewards held an enquiry into the running and riding of SIROP DE MENTHE (FR), ridden by Lucy Gardner, and trained by Susan Gardner, which was not asked for any effort on the run in before finishing second, beaten 4 ½ lengths for first place. They interviewed the rider and the trainer and heard a report from the Veterinary Officer. The rider stated that she had mistaken the race distance, thinking she had another circuit to go before the finish and therefore she had not ridden the gelding out. Having heard her evidence and viewed recordings of the race the Stewards found the rider in breach of Rule (B)59.3.2.2. They suspended her for 14 days as follows: Sunday 8, Monday 9, Tuesday 10, Wednesday 11, Thursday 12, Friday 13, Saturday 14, Sunday 15, Monday 16, Tuesday 17, Wednesday 18, Thursday 19, Friday 20 and Saturday 21 March 2015.

Apologies as I missed Mr Spock's post of the enquiry.

Plenty of money for the winner, believe it was 10/1 last night.

14 days is absurdly lenient, 30 days should have been the very least she should have got.

14 days is absolutely disgusting, error or not. Like a previous poster has said she'll probably have very few rides within this time so where is the punishment? Punters will have lost money on this incident......they are the ones that have been punished not the jockey.
Surely a minimum 6 months ban would have been more suitable in this instance.(Proportionate to the amount of potential rides~).
Surely this leaves the door wide open to any possible future incidents, ie lay your horse, put a claimer on with the instruction to ride your race and if your in with a winning just sit still and when questioned say that you thought there was another circuit?

thats true muff........a  young female rider like her will be  forgiven and the busines  has  been done...if  it  was a tony culhane type  of jock  he would have been lynched  from the nearest  tree

^^winning chance

14 days just gives the useless stewards license to reduce JM's ban.

14  days is saying....do what  you like ....the punishment does not in any way fit the crime... this  isnt mccoy  who could lose 60  rides  in 14  days ...and some important big race rides.....how many on average  would she lose ?...and how many of them would she be widely  considerd  to have a good chance of winning ?  the level of punishment  promotes corruption

why not just take her license away, would that appease the betfair forum

one hypothetical sideline (to me anyhow) is that if the winner hadnt been able to get past on the run-in, bearing in mind no other horse did, there would have been the bizarre spectacle of the jockey setting off for another circuit having already won the race. If that had happened, no doubt the stewards would have wanted a word about it, and would they have still banned her for misjudging the number of circuits, or would they have let it go as an incidental irrelevance cos shed won the race ??

Feb 22, 2015 -- 8:03PM, toilettennisplayer wrote:

one hypothetical sideline (to me anyhow) is that if the winner hadnt been able to get past on the run-in, bearing in mind no other horse did, there would have been the bizarre spectacle of the jockey setting off for another circuit having already won the race. If that had happened, no doubt the stewards would have wanted a word about it, and would they have still banned her for misjudging the number of circuits, or would they have let it go as an incidental irrelevance cos shed won the race ??

That would of been funny

In the last 14 days she's had 2 rides at Exeter, so its not going to cost her on the riding front.


But backing Very Noble from 10's to 3's is very profitable, and that person must be very happy.

interesting  but  clearly  no ban ......can only ban if a  law  has been breached ........i  would not  think  there is a law in the book that says  if  one has  won a race  , one  is not allowed  to  continue on another  circuit

interesting  but  clearly  no ban ......can only ban if a  law  has been breached ........i  would not  think  there is a law in the book that says  if  one has  won a race  , one  is not allowed  to  continue on another  circuit

interesting  but  clearly  no ban ......can only ban if a  law  has been breached ........i  would not  think  there is a law in the book that says  if  one has  won a race  , one  is not allowed  to  continue on another  circuit

hypothetically  , if someone like  mccoy  did  the same  crime, i  would assume  that the ban would be similar...but clearly  the punishment  would be hugely greater given the high profile  and the loss of earnings  and high profile rides

Joke. The race was 2m2f110yds. If she thought there was another circuit to go, just how long did she think this hurdle race was?

told you earlier
stay forver this one mam

stewarts rise • February 22, 2015 5:25 PM GMT
Result in Racing post.

   
2
    4½     Sirop De Menthe (FR) 2/1J     5     10-13      Sue Gardner     107     *     *     
    Lucy Gardner5
     
Tracked leader, left in lead on bend before 6th, travelling well when headed last, rider sat motionless counting her profit from the bet on the winner.

Remember the criminal fraternity threatened George Moore because he wouldn't pull horses and as a result he left his position as Murless's jockey and returned to his homeland. Not saying that a gang threatened Lucy , but it's a possible explanation for what happened.

"Returning after the race, Gardner said, "I thought there was another circuit to go.  I hold my hands up.  What an idiot I've been.  I've never done anything like that before."

Apparently she was "mortified". 

the  race  has  just this minute  been shown again on ATR ............jamie moore  was riding a finish over the second last next  to her....surely  she must have thought that was  strange  if there was a lap  to go ....the plot thickens

That doesn't bear thinking about, Posy

You would forgive her if she was attractive, but her mount is better looking than she is

Rider sat motionless?
Not 50 Shades then???

if your riding a 2 miler and your on the snaff thinking you,ve the best part of 2 miles to go,must have thought she was on some horse and with everyone else beaten a distance or rowing away ,she must have thought she was going to win by a circuit,

Cacique, she was injured on Flying Award at Bangor on 6th February and only came back at Exeter.  She would have ridden more than two.

Well they fell for the id thought id got another circuit to go Guv line.
That race was rancid.

14 days a price well worth paying.

I thought we were watching possibly the greatest hurdler since Istabraq in action. A steed that could win without even the slightest coercion - maybe a gentle ruffling of its ears and it was away. Even a possible Late entry for the champion hurdle, the gold cup and the grand national. Maybe even the derby.

I agree - the race stank to me.  If McCririck gets his whip ban incorporated, will all races look like that?

i still dont get it dont mind the excuse but if you buy the excuse why did her thought process stop an inch after the line,she could have been right and the other jocks wrong,but she decided in a stride she was wrong

Another apologist

https://twitter.com/nickluck/status/569596517637603328

Of course he is going to let her off. The posh stick together. Hooray Henry's like him were kissing sam wally brain cohens arse too!!

was going to give her a ring to ride one in the 3 miler at fakenham think i,ll save the cost of a call.

Im trying to find the distance of a circuit at fontwell, impossible to find.

Im probably not searching correctly.

Reckon it's about 1m 1f, IS.

Just watched it again and I do just wonder whether she has an "ah f***" moment about halfway between the last and the winning line but rightly realises that she's screwed up - hence pulling up after crossing the line as quickly as she did. 

At no point during the race is she looking behind her, trying to see how other horses are travelling....

jeez get the men with the white coats in

Cooking and cleaning..

Is that where you've been Quentin ! 

i assume this gang threatened the entire field to make sure Very Noble won, as the winner was strong in the market and it wasnt just a lay of her horse. the rest of course did a better job than Lucy, who thought she would be okay sitting in front and not moving till the race was finished. no way would those actions be suspicious in her opinion.

a mental aberration, no more or no less, in my opinion of course. will be the first to come on here and say i was wrong when the real story breaks in the press.

Im trying to find the distance of a circuit at fontwell, impossible to find.

http://www.racingpost.com/horses/course_home.sd?crs_id=20#topCrsTabs=upcoming_races&bottomCrsTabs=course_map

thanks wft

so how could she get it mixed up ?

IMHO is it too much to ask that in cases like this the stewards can order that the horse in question be treated as a non runner for betting purposes. Anyone backing that today has every right to feel sick

Very easy to get confused counting to 2, IS.

Im worried that she might do 28 days & not realize.................

I want to think she made a genuine mistake but she would had run 3miles if her mistake was valid.

Mange

vg mange, she might even do 42

I have just watched the race on Youtube.

It is a bizarre incident to say the least.What was Lucy thinking? How could she not have sensed the other jockeys around her riding out a finish?

If this was a genuine mistake then she must be feeling dreadful about it. I do feel sorry for her. Imagine having to walk back in after that?

My advice to her would be that one day she won't be feeling so bad about this so why not start feeling not so bad about it right now

I feel for anyone who backed the horse, too. They have every right to be very cross about this.

A very unfortunate event but worse things happen.

^ Hello Lucy

It isn't just today that we found out this girl couldn't ride racehorses ....anybody who backed her needs to have a good look at themselves....even if she is riding the best horse ...you still can't back her....

I wondered can you hear the racecourse commentary she maybe deaf

video link?

I seriously doubt that she miscalculated.It was obvious that the eventual winner was being ridden in earnest.She could see that this WAS the end of the race! Her reaction on passing the line was NOT that of someone expecting another circuit. We have seen jockeys miscalculate in the past and this did not resemble such occurrences IMO.I reckon that the disappearance of the likely winner made losing this race a tougher prospect. Particularly on a horse that was cruising along regardless of the pilot. Barry Brogan at least leapt off one that was left in a similar situation.

Sirop De Menthe due to run at Plumpton today, but there's an inspection. Lucy due to be in the saddle, again!

Of 83 rides in the last 12 months 77 have been for Mrs Gardner (presumably her mum).

That tells you what high regard she is held in as a rider by the training fraternity!

The BHA should revoke her license and issue her with an amateur rider's license!

Still a runner today-wonder if she will ride a finish a circuit early today.

It's win two races ago was over same trip ,at Plumpton.

Ran 3f.further yesterday having been entered for today's race at Plumpton back to 16f.

2/1 fav at moment.

Whether the ride yesterday was a genuine mistake or not and no matter how ethically upstanding the trainer and connections might be,surely

this scenario brings racing into disrepute.

Oh but don't be concerned. The BHA is spending millions on 'integrity',so the 'best racing in the World' is safe from trainers doing

whatever it takes (within the rules of course) to get their runners' handicap marks down to a point where they can take full advantage.

As long as bookies and the 'Old Guard' have their way handicaps will be the mainstay of British racing and there will never be an end to

countless daily non-triers.

with daily prize levels at what they are, is it little surprise our racing is where it is?

yesterday was nothing more than a horrendous mistake but i do agree that someone should have a quiet word with her today to not run the horse.

does not matter how much prize money you give them......never happy
they will make money by losing races on win and place markets unfortunately.....
as for the ride yesterday
backers who suffer most
myself i would prefer a large fine rather than a i4 day ban
that would help them concentrate..........
you make a big **** up at work....your lucky to keep your job