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paulie wallnuts
14 Jan 15 13:24
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As we all know AW racing is absolutely rotten to the core.....but what a double act this is.....id rather have a bet in a snooker game which involved the Francisco's playing each other....
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Report wallis January 14, 2015 1:28 PM GMT
Jaganory.....  cant wait for the story they will be telling the stewards after this one.

Led last time out but this time reined back and strangled Laugh
Report TRD.Racing January 14, 2015 1:28 PM GMT
Filthy
Report EVILROYSLADE January 14, 2015 1:29 PM GMT
Once again this rancid outfit screw the punters. The horse broke well, was reined back for whatever reason and when a gap appeared the rodent on its back was in no way going to attempt to place. They are bad news!
Report stu January 14, 2015 1:29 PM GMT
Absolutely blatent - stayed well enough at Kempton after leading, but held back over an easier Lingfield 7furlongs.
Report paulie wallnuts January 14, 2015 1:30 PM GMT
You will have somebody on here shortly giving reasons why they didn't fancy it....some sort of ratings or speed figures.....that kind of rubbish....
Report TRD.Racing January 14, 2015 1:30 PM GMT
Ennis and Mupple,he wanted a lead......................FFS grow some balls
Report djbulldog January 14, 2015 1:30 PM GMT
Egans lay of the day!!!
Report stu January 14, 2015 1:30 PM GMT
Throw the book at Egan, and visit his financial accounts please.
Report PugMunter1 January 14, 2015 1:31 PM GMT
even worse watching it again
Report TheFear January 14, 2015 1:31 PM GMT
I doubt he came back because of his love for the game Laugh
Report TRD.Racing January 14, 2015 1:31 PM GMT
Why you should never part with any cash on this filth ridden AW
Report stu January 14, 2015 1:33 PM GMT
Funny how it seemed to be staying fine at the end of the race there, despite being made to pull early in the race.
Report SlippyBlue January 14, 2015 1:33 PM GMT
Complete filth.
Report wallis January 14, 2015 1:34 PM GMT
Its led in nearly all its races and its best results came from when it was in front early. 

But this filth decide to strangle it when it tried to go on and ruin the horse.
Report Latalomne January 14, 2015 1:34 PM GMT
Holt knew from his commentary.
Report paulie wallnuts January 14, 2015 1:34 PM GMT
TRD is spot on.....ordinary people should not bet on it......ok if you are in the know...its hard not to be enthusiastic.....but anybody outside the circle is a million.....
Report stu January 14, 2015 1:34 PM GMT
Despite knowing the opposition was clearly weak too. Totally blatent.
Report akajak January 14, 2015 1:35 PM GMT
disgrace
Report Latalomne January 14, 2015 1:36 PM GMT
He was getting jiggy at the end of the race.  That's all they care about.
Report EVILROYSLADE January 14, 2015 1:38 PM GMT
Stu! Thats why they do it when the opposition is very weak. They know that they will be well in front by keeping clear of the places.
Report stu January 14, 2015 1:39 PM GMT
Yep, but makes any explanation for the ride completely illogical. If it had gone from the front should have been winning by 3 lengths with a simple repeat of it's previous form.
Report SlippyBlue January 14, 2015 1:40 PM GMT
I've watched that race 5 times I'd give him a 6 month ban.
Report aberdonia January 14, 2015 1:40 PM GMT
Enzo trying to justify the tactics. ffs. grow a set man
Report stu January 14, 2015 1:40 PM GMT
Right, they do call in at times for explanation of a ride - this one please stewards?
Report paulie wallnuts January 14, 2015 1:41 PM GMT
These type of people will kill AW racing and its no harm either.....
Report stu January 14, 2015 1:41 PM GMT
They can't argue it wouldn't stay - it was within a couple of lengths of winning a far stronger handicap over 7 at Kempton recently. Stayed ok in that race.
Report aberdonia January 14, 2015 1:42 PM GMT
ATR just showed you Egan's ride from start to finish.

i did not back the horse, but if he is not banned.....
Report aberdonia January 14, 2015 1:43 PM GMT
AW racing far from being killed is now the staple diet of UK racing,
Report TRD.Racing January 14, 2015 1:44 PM GMT
Egan will just say he was told not to lead and the horse did not suit being held up,case closed.

The race was full of dross,no pace at all,Egan could easily have pinched 3-4 lengths at the start. If they had backed it from 5/2 into Evens,they wouldn't have seen which way it went
Report grendel January 14, 2015 1:45 PM GMT
why should the jockey be banned if he rode to his employers instructions, it's time the trainers were called in to explain why they give iffy instructions
Report hong kong fooey January 14, 2015 1:46 PM GMT
None of them will upset the apple cart
Risk the chance to be thrown off the gravy train
I think a lot on here would do the same In 
their position.Such is life
Report Deltâ January 14, 2015 1:47 PM GMT
grendel - are you Newbury ish based?
Report grendel January 14, 2015 1:49 PM GMT
nope
Report Deltâ January 14, 2015 1:49 PM GMT
tar
Report stu January 14, 2015 1:52 PM GMT
Grendal can the trainer and jock not both be called in if the explanation is 'instructions'?
Report NOW WE KNOW January 14, 2015 1:52 PM GMT
The BHA have a difficult job here and legally an almost impossible one. I cant see how or why you would want to change tactics that were effective when dropping in grade so clearly an odd ride.

The problem is that different tactics are tried on plenty of horses day in day out, some work, some do not.

Quite how you can be sure what happened was dodgy in a way that is punishable is far from easy.

The best way with these people is to simply avoid, sad but the only sure way not to lose money.
Report Deltâ January 14, 2015 1:53 PM GMT
Race 2 - 1:20pm THE 32Red CASINO CLAIMING STAKES (CLASS 5)

No Stewards Enquiry.
Luke Morris, the rider of RAGTIME DANCER, unplaced, reported that the filly suffered interference going into the first bend.

Jimmy Quinn, the rider of RED FLUTE, unplaced, reported that the gelding suffered interference going into the first bend.
Report paulie wallnuts January 14, 2015 1:59 PM GMT
Agree....avoidance is the only solution.....
Report NOW WE KNOW January 14, 2015 2:04 PM GMT
Sorry paulie, meant to mention the OP!

Learnt my lesson with Irish Mafia, second guessing is rarely profitable.
Report wallis January 14, 2015 2:05 PM GMT
as soon as the stalls open 8k to lay went up at 2.0   -  job done for someone...
Report aberdonia January 14, 2015 2:08 PM GMT
Indeed, went straight into the lead from the stalls.
Report pulio January 14, 2015 2:10 PM GMT
someone should put that up on youtube
Report stu January 14, 2015 2:11 PM GMT
We all know some cases have been found out (legally) in the past. Lets hope someone is doing something about this in the background...if they wanted to make it more blatent they couldn't have done.
Report stu January 14, 2015 2:12 PM GMT
Racing integrity unit still going?
Report Magic__Daps January 14, 2015 2:18 PM GMT
Stu - of course it's still going and at a cost of £20 million per year. That is a lot of champers/caviar and gravy. The powers that be are no better than the ones taking the p1ss imo.


Assume Blatter, sorry I mean Bittar is still in charge. Well done on your achievments Paul with that huge salary and pension you have basically thieved from the sport.
Report MJK January 14, 2015 3:09 PM GMT

Jan 14, 2015 -- 1:31PM, TRD.Racing wrote:


Why you should never part with any cash on this filth ridden AW


Post of the day

Report halcyon days January 14, 2015 3:21 PM GMT
Paulie, good afternoon.



I actually agree with you, the Francisco brothers comparison did make me Grin as well .
Report paulie wallnuts January 14, 2015 3:34 PM GMT
Good afternoon to you also halcyon....
Report blackbarn January 14, 2015 4:11 PM GMT
Sorry to come to this so late.  Based on the last 5 years, The Egan/Evans "machine" is profitable in toto, but probably best to exclude the AW to maximise profitsWink
Report halcyon days January 14, 2015 4:15 PM GMT
Some years ago James Doyle rode one for David.... they had £1M touch !
Report TRD.Racing January 14, 2015 4:19 PM GMT
A good few years back I knew someone who got info from the yard,you really need to know what is going on before betting one of theirs
Report jamesdean January 14, 2015 4:22 PM GMT
That Black Dave ride was nothing short of criminal. Evans should be warned off
Report rewired January 14, 2015 4:41 PM GMT
surprised they didn’t get pulled in today
trainer and jockey.........
Report BornToWin January 14, 2015 5:03 PM GMT
Just watched this, ffs they really can do as they please.
Report Send.in.the.clowns January 14, 2015 5:10 PM GMT
digraceful ride from Egan, he should have learnt to stop a non buzzer hitting the lids by now
Report rewired January 14, 2015 5:17 PM GMT
the aw weather racing is turning into a joke at present
how many are sent off at a ridiculous pace up front.....
or held up for trouble.......
we know this can happen,but some rides have been so questionable at best.......
Report jrw January 14, 2015 5:24 PM GMT
Think most punters do not want a/w racing, betting shops do as long as you play fobs and cartoon races, anyone who wants over 20 pounds or over on a/w or takes prices which are bigger than sp not welcome
Report SecondComing January 14, 2015 5:29 PM GMT
Egan is a great rider, I wouldn't question his integrity for a second
Report Daryl Revok January 14, 2015 5:48 PM GMT
Did Plod ever catch the people who vandalised them stalls at Lingers, before Prince Of Burma won? LaughLaughWhoopsWhoopsLaughLaugh
Report GREEDISGOOD January 14, 2015 5:50 PM GMT
has egan been banned yet?  nope..will never happen. they need a smoking gun and lots of evidence.  egan walks free again.
Report Broomwagon January 14, 2015 6:13 PM GMT
18.10 Know your name goes off Fav Laugh
Report haplessamatuer January 14, 2015 7:53 PM GMT
The stewards were to busy giving out bans to jockeys that tried to hard to WIN!!

3 whip bans for real triers
Report Oldgit1 January 14, 2015 8:25 PM GMT
Egan shows a £25 LSP on turf for Evans but a £25 loss on AW.
Evans in 2014 had a £66 LSP on Turf but a £220 loss on AW
Report drlovepants January 14, 2015 8:39 PM GMT
Been out since first thing but I think I'll take a look on the playback, sounds bad!Mischief
Report mecca January 14, 2015 8:45 PM GMT
Have a look at Baker on Dembaba 1.55 whilst your at it
Report drlovepants January 14, 2015 8:45 PM GMT
Hmmmmm, fishier than Ryan Giggs' c0ck? Blush
Report blackbarn January 14, 2015 8:47 PM GMT
Oldgit - I think you are apples and pears'ing.  The bottom line is that blind-backing Egan riding for Evans yields a good profit, even allowing for the relatively poor AW performance. Dropping the AW of course improves the return. Blind backing Evans irrespective of Jock is of course a loser.
Report Oldgit1 January 14, 2015 9:00 PM GMT
Blackbarn:
Perhaps I can interest you in this:-)
http://www.pof.com/member13508781.htm
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