Funny that people have moaned for ages that all the politicians are liars, and yet when one come's along that speaks his mind the people still moan about it.
Funny that people have moaned for ages that all the politicians are liars, and yet when one come's along that speaks his mind the people still moan about it.
I am not a fan or voter for UKIP but Farrage is by far the most charismatic party leader and the others underestimate him at their peril. There is also a growing mood (rightly so) that we have had enough of this two party system. Neither do anything for reducing inequality and the growing mood is that we are fed up with both main parties and a protest vote is as good as anything.
I am not a fan or voter for UKIP but Farrage is by far the most charismatic party leader and the others underestimate him at their peril. There is also a growing mood (rightly so) that we have had enough of this two party system. Neither do anything
All the problems with infrastructure i.e not enough schools, not enough A+E and hospitals generally and not enough jobs, have been brought about by politicians of all parties not investing enough to meet the demands of an increasing population. If you want 70m+ of all nationalities then you must plan and invest accordingly to make sure everybody can live with sufficient services. I have to say, though, there would be no need for increasing the population if our education system gave opportunities to the talent lower down the social scale (like grammar schools) thus producing a skilled society that could serve itself without recourse to unlimited immigration. Nigel is a sideshow but he draws attention where it is needed rather than dear old Ed whose big master plan is to give 16 y o s the vote
All the problems with infrastructure i.e not enough schools, not enough A+E and hospitals generally and not enough jobs, have been brought about by politicians of all parties not investing enough to meet the demands of an increasing population. If yo
Farage's act is quite good but he is not what he appears. Public schoolboy who became a merchant banker and has now been freeloading for years off an institution he claims to despise.
Farage's act is quite good but he is not what he appears. Public schoolboy who became a merchant banker and has now been freeloading for years off an institution he claims to despise.
UKIP started as a party that objected to the EU on largely big business reasons, it had no problem with EU migration, it just was not an issue. The party has only recently gained support because of ordinary people becoming worried about immigration and UKIP being the only acceptable party prepared to voice against immigration. And realistically Nigel Farage is the only politician to articulate against immigration and to survive the media onslaught, he is a ground breaker, UKIP has been more of a vehicle for him and probably still UKIP is just a name without any greater legitimacy.
Why no mainstream parties were prepared to listen to popular concerns about immigration before support for UKIP and why the media make it their business to try and destroy UKIP are interesting questions.
Unfortunately immigration, like the weather, is now uncontrollable.
UKIP started as a party that objected to the EU on largely big business reasons, it had no problem with EU migration, it just was not an issue. The party has only recently gained support because of ordinary people becoming worried about immigration a
Agree Matt but we must have a government who would leave the EU (IF THE REFERENDUM SAYS SO) and restrict non EU immigration. Also, give foreign aid on a case by case manner i.e natural disasters so it is all accountable not used on India's space programme.
Agree Matt but we must have a government who would leave the EU (IF THE REFERENDUM SAYS SO) and restrict non EU immigration. Also, give foreign aid on a case by case manner i.e natural disasters so it is all accountable not used on India's space prog
If you think that being in the EU is bad for the country along with mass immigration then vote for UKIP.
Don't think that the other parties would do anything about the issues without the pressure that losing votes to UKIP is putting on them.
The other three parties have already proved that. They simply ignored the rebellion against immigration before UKIP forced them to take notice.
If you think that being in the EU is bad for the country along with mass immigration then vote for UKIP.Don't think that the other parties would do anything about the issues without the pressure that losing votes to UKIP is putting on them.The other
Never mind what Farage has to drink, or any other personality politics the media play at to get your attention.
Labour Tories and the Lib/Dems are all going in the same direction bar the fine detail. Don't be misled by the class warriors or the papers. There's no choice in politics any more. They big three parties have the same policies. They just juggle them about to try and make them look different.
Vote for UKIP and put the choice back into politics. If only for that reason.
Never mind what Farage has to drink, or any other personality politics the media play at to get your attention.Labour Tories and the Lib/Dems are all going in the same direction bar the fine detail.Don't be misled by the class warriors or the papers.
“furious” and in “uproar” ahead of tonight’s hustings in South Basildon and East Thurrock, where Neil Hamilton has been parachuted in by the central party.
choice back into politics?“furious” and in “uproar” ahead of tonight’s hustings in South Basildon and East Thurrock, where Neil Hamilton has been parachuted in by the central party.
If only Thatcher was around to stamp out this buffoon and his bigoted supporters. She would have crushed him in the same manner in which she destroyed the very loathsome Scargill.
If only Thatcher was around to stamp out this buffoon and his bigoted supporters. She would have crushed him in the same manner in which she destroyed the very loathsome Scargill.
She would have crushed him in the same manner in which she destroyed the very loathsome Scargill.
What by closing down the mines?
I can't see how that would work against Farage and UKIP.
But keep them coming Johnny. I'm sure anybody who's lost on here today could do with a few more laughs.
She would have crushed him in the same manner in which she destroyed the very loathsome Scargill. What by closing down the mines?I can't see how that would work against Farage and UKIP.But keep them coming Johnny. I'm sure anybody who's lost on here
Whatever you think about Farage one thing he is is consistent. I went to school with him and his views now are the same views he had over 30 years ago. He wanted to be head boy at Dulwich College but there was a petition by a group of teachers urging for him not to get the position because of his views on immigration. He didn't get selected in the end but did end up as a senior prefect. I always liked the bloke, he was always very good company and liked a few pints. At debating he was completely unbeatable.
Whatever you think about Farage one thing he is is consistent. I went to school with him and his views now are the same views he had over 30 years ago. He wanted to be head boy at Dulwich College but there was a petition by a group of teachers urging
the man is a ****, his party is full of the ugliest worst dressed people i have ever seen.
they should do well amongst traditional labour voters.
Agreed. Just thought it was amusing that horse found his way to the winners enclosure. Farage probably wont
the man is a ****, his party is full of the ugliest worst dressed people i have ever seen.they should do well amongst traditional labour voters.Agreed. Just thought it was amusing that horse found his way to the winners enclosure. Farage probably won
OliasOfSunhillow 10 Dec 14 14:29 I am not a fan or voter for UKIP but Farrage is by far the most charismatic party leader and the others underestimate him at their peril. There is also a growing mood (rightly so) that we have had enough of this two party system. Neither do anything for reducing inequality and the growing mood is that we are fed up with both main parties and a protest vote is as good as anything.
Agree entirely, well sayed.
OliasOfSunhillow 10 Dec 14 14:29 I am not a fan or voter for UKIP but Farrage is by far the most charismatic party leader and the others underestimate him at their peril. There is also a growing mood (rightly so) that we have had enough of this t
I don't like many aspects of the UKIP manifesto but I do share their views on the EU which seems to me to be the biggest drain on UK resources and freedom. The EU bureaucracy is set on reducing the competitive advantage that it knows the UK has by dreaming up regulations that penalise us most. And we have to pay twice as high salaries for MEPs compared to MPs, twice as much to EU bureaucrats than UK ones etc. What possible benefit do we get in return? And to cap it all, the French blame our high benefits for the refugees in Calais. They should be housing them and giving them asylum or paying the cost of transporting them back to their home country. If our membership is not sorted out soon UKIP will win a future General Election outright.
I don't like many aspects of the UKIP manifesto but I do share their views on the EU which seems to me to be the biggest drain on UK resources and freedom. The EU bureaucracy is set on reducing the competitive advantage that it knows the UK has by dr
Be honest, the whole "race" issue has gone so far that there doesn't seem to be any way back now.
One of the biggest problems we have in this country socially and legally is that we have been
trained to believe that the worst thing anyone could be called is a "racist".
I can honestly think of at least five other things I would not like to be called before "racist".
Think about it....
Why does everyone call him a racist?Be honest, the whole "race" issue has gone so far that there doesn't seem to be any way back now.One of the biggest problems we have in this country socially and legally is that we have beentrained to believe that
Farrage is an extremely clever man who has single handedly conned the electorate to believe he can improve our lives by returning us to the 1950s.Ukip as a whole seems to me to be a party that consists of assorted nutters and lunatics with no redeeming features whatsoever.
Farrage is an extremely clever man who has single handedly conned the electorate to believe he can improve our lives by returning us to the 1950s.Ukip as a whole seems to me to be a party that consists of assorted nutters and lunatics with no redeemi
To call someone a racist these days reflects more on the mind-set of the accuser than an accurate description of the accused.
Many of these accusers are obsessed with race, which kind of turns the accusation back on themselves.
To call someone a racist these days reflects more on the mind-set of the accuser than an accurate description of the accused. Many of these accusers are obsessed with race, which kind of turns the accusation back on themselves.
I am concerned that the vast number of unemployed, the under-educated, or blue collar working class scum might give him more votes than he's entitled to.
I am concerned that the vast number of unemployed, the under-educated, or blue collar working class scum might give him more votes than he's entitled to.
Picking up votes on the immigration issues , not got much of a policy strategy on other things. They are extreme Tory boys who would be worse for the NHS than the actual Tories would.
Picking up votes on the immigration issues , not got much of a policy strategy on other things. They are extreme Tory boys who would be worse for the NHS than the actual Tories would.
I am concerned that the vast number of unemployed, the under-educated, or blue collar working class scum might give him more votes than he's entitled to.
I take it you're voting for UKIP then Johnny?
I am concerned that the vast number of unemployed, the under-educated, or blue collar working class scum might give him more votes than he's entitled to.I take it you're voting for UKIP then Johnny?
It shows how far gone Britain is when a lone voice standing up for his own people is denounced as scum.
Farage is a brilliant debater as he will no doubt prove tonight,has a great grasp of all topics and has quite correctly shown the EU to be the evil empire it is.
It shows how far gone Britain is when a lone voice standing up for his own people is denounced as scum.Farage is a brilliant debater as he will no doubt prove tonight,has a great grasp of all topics and has quite correctly shown the EU to be the evil
I'll willingly concede that Farage is charismatic and has a certain charm which the less intelligent might find powerfully seductive but his campaign is built on feet of clay and we'll see no more of him post-May 2015 other than the occasional stint on News I Got News For You.
I'll willingly concede that Farage is charismatic and has a certain charm which the less intelligent might find powerfully seductive but his campaign is built on feet of clay and we'll see no more of him post-May 2015 other than the occasional stint
Not sure that I would call the EU an evil empire. It is just reflecting the norm in most EU countries where bureaucrats have always ruled the rest of the populace and free enterprise has been seen as the enemy, particularly if it is not French/Spanish or wherever. Because the British have different values, we are seen as the enemy who are trying to compete "unfairly" with the sclerotic businesses in the other countries. You only have to go to Spain and see that hardly anything is open in the afternoons and restaurants not until 8.30 at night. The last time we went there on holiday we ended up buying food in the mornings and eating in the hotel room.
Not sure that I would call the EU an evil empire. It is just reflecting the norm in most EU countries where bureaucrats have always ruled the rest of the populace and free enterprise has been seen as the enemy, particularly if it is not French/Spanis
All politicians are inherently corrupt, and none is more corrupt than self-proclaimed Man-of-the-People, the beerswilling Farage. Harnessing the xenophobia of the average Brit, he whips up a torrent of hatred of foreigners among White Van men, conveniently ignoring the fact that he's married to a German whom he employs as his secretary, against parliamentary rules at an enormous salary paid out of the public purse!
Is anyone sane seriously suggesting that one of the Neananderthal rabble he attracts like flies around excrement could possibly be Chancellor of the Exchequer in six months time?
If so, a one way trip to Beachy Head await us all!
All politicians are inherently corrupt, and none is more corrupt than self-proclaimed Man-of-the-People, the beerswilling Farage. Harnessing the xenophobia of the average Brit, he whips up a torrent of hatred of foreigners among White Van men, conve
Slippy blue is a Dulwich College boy. Well fancy that. But wasn't Nige a young Tory back then ?
Yes salmon spray, he was a member of the Conservative party in his early life.
Slippy blue is a Dulwich College boy. Well fancy that. But wasn't Nige a young Tory back then ?Yes salmon spray, he was a member of the Conservative party in his early life.
WMOB: totally wrong assumption, the Essex bit was added by Betfair Admin from my then address for one of my many aliases! Got to get my gambling bank together by whatever means available - getting harder and harder to fool the DSS mate.
WMOB: totally wrong assumption, the Essex bit was added by Betfair Admin from my then address for one of my many aliases! Got to get my gambling bank together by whatever means available - getting harder and harder to fool the DSS mate.
I fear for people who think that Farage is charismatic.
however his followers seem very odd, even odder than him.
for the record i am a free marketeer who would never dream of voting UKIP.
I fear for people who think that Farage is charismatic.however his followers seem very odd, even odder than him.for the record i am a free marketeer who would never dream of voting UKIP.
i probably wont vote ukip but we do have a problem giving too many benefits to migrants there supposed to be coming to work we pay out too quick.for all their talk the other parties wont stop till the island starts to sink.i dont see how its racist when u wonder how letting in so many is not going to be a drain on infrastructure or services and we keep paying benefits go abroad sign on see how long they let u claim for
i probably wont vote ukip but we do have a problem giving too many benefits to migrants there supposed to be coming to work we pay out too quick.for all their talk the other parties wont stop till the island starts to sink.i dont see how its racist w
Lord Feldman was generous when he called the "swivel eyed loons"
The party is supported by underachieving white working class voters who blame everyone bar themselves for their poor lifestyle.
Lord Feldman was generous when he called the "swivel eyed loons"The party is supported by underachieving white working class voters who blame everyone bar themselves for their poor lifestyle.
It's only the pressure put on the politicians from UKIP that's got the other parties to even talk about immigration.
Without UKIP we'd have no chance of controlling immigration or from being swallowed up by the EU.
If UKIP does not continue to get support from the electorate, the two main issues that concern people most will be brushed back under the carpet.
It's only the pressure put on the politicians from UKIP that's got the other parties to even talk about immigration.Without UKIP we'd have no chance of controlling immigration or from being swallowed up by the EU.If UKIP does not continue to get supp
They say that many battles were won on the playing fields of eaton but they would wouldn't they? The fact of the matter is the world would never survive the party that would thrown by the rest of the world if these Islands and its rulers slipped beneath the waves forever.
These Islands are the last thing they could sell but the hammer is falling ever faster with each passing day and only the english would allow it. Brought up on bullxxxx since birth they crave class so much that its quite lost on them that they posses so little off it. Spending billions on other countries trying to repair the damage of their rule and repair a reputation that was built on cruelty and greed is typical of them while their education system fails their own people and still they fantasize.
Good on ukip whose heads and hearts are in the right place and maybe there is just a chance they will do some lasting good because this country is heading for confrontation on a scale that our masters would be the last you would want clearing it up.
A balance and intelligence is required but that in britain always turns out to be fools gold.
They say that many battles were won on the playing fields of eaton but they would wouldn't they?The fact of the matter is the world would never survive the party that would thrown by the rest of the world if these Islands and its rulers slipped benea
If asked who I would vote for the Election manifesto is as follows
The basic principle should be if you aint paid anything in you should not get anything out(that goes for British scroungers as well)
Another is that no one on benefits should be better off than any worker
Prison sentences should mean what they so on the label, no time of for good behaviour but add to them for bad.
The parole board should be accountable (sacking etc) for any one they release and who goes on to re offend
And anyone who wants to be a lawyer or a politician should be taken out and disposed off (as Billy Connolly said dont vote it only encourages them)
P.S this goes for the bleeding heart liberals as well
Bit radical at times but hey ho If asked who I would vote for the Election manifesto is as followsThe basic principle should be if you aint paid anything in you should not get anything out(that goes for British scroungers as well) Another is that no
I have got just the Job for 'charismatic' Nige - British Ambassador to the newly created Islamic State - I'm sure he and his charming foreign, illegally paid spouse/secretary, would charm the heads off the Jihadis!!
I have got just the Job for 'charismatic' Nige - British Ambassador to the newly created Islamic State - I'm sure he and his charming foreign, illegally paid spouse/secretary, would charm the heads off the Jihadis!!
If it wasn,t for the incompetent meddling of the British and Americans there would be no Islamic state killers and hundreds of thousands of Arabs would still be alive and the hate for these Islands would not be so deep.
If it wasn,t for the incompetent meddling of the British and Americans there would be no Islamic state killers and hundreds of thousands of Arabs would still be alive and the hate for these Islands would not be so deep.