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brassneck
19 Nov 14 19:23
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just after reading that the patron saint of money is SAINT MATTHEW .So now you all know who to pray to if you hit a losing run.Grin
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Report ThunderRoad November 19, 2014 7:24 PM GMT
Nope, actively irreligious.
Report brassneck November 19, 2014 7:31 PM GMT
when I need a goal for a bet to come up I go to youtube and play Glen Campbell playing Classical Gas and it usually brings me luck.Laugh
Report Greg_Gory November 19, 2014 7:35 PM GMT
Loads on religiously every day Laugh
Report metro john November 19, 2014 7:50 PM GMT
I never drink out of a damp glass!
Report theonlywayforward November 19, 2014 7:53 PM GMT
Alot of hopes and prayers for sure.
Report salmon spray November 19, 2014 7:57 PM GMT
St Matthew was a tax collector. There's a few on here who would prefer to avoid him imo.
Report TheNorfolkMafia November 19, 2014 7:59 PM GMT
I am!

Happy
Report salmon spray November 19, 2014 8:00 PM GMT
What a tax collector ?     Shocked
Report THE-GHOST-OF-DICKIE-BIRD November 19, 2014 8:03 PM GMT
We evolved from the apes . . .Simple as.

My brother who has passed away was a devote christian and i loved him to bits.Love

But this he got wrong.


i m o of cause
Report Lampus November 19, 2014 8:04 PM GMT
Bush  is God


Charles  Heston  56  BC
Report halcyon days November 19, 2014 8:21 PM GMT
My tipstering is GCooldlike !
Report big aitch November 19, 2014 8:25 PM GMT
Religion is a strange thing, it can bring out the good in good people and the bad in evil people. The thing is it is impossible to prove there is no God, so a lot of people who need something to help them get through life go on believing and very rarely see how ludicrous it is.
Report salmon spray November 19, 2014 8:25 PM GMT
Greg D yke ConfusedConfused
Report SlippyBlue November 19, 2014 8:29 PM GMT
Complete atheist, I was excused R.E. lessons and assembly at school and had to stand up in class to deny the existence of God. The R.E. teacher was enraged and told me to get out. I was quite happy about that.
Report MJK November 19, 2014 8:58 PM GMT
I'm a huge believer in God. I don't push it on anyone. Disappointing that those that don't seem to go out of their way to put down those of us that do.
Report Johnny_Mustang November 19, 2014 9:03 PM GMT
Am a devout catholic.
Report themightymac November 19, 2014 9:17 PM GMT
I agree with MJK
Report ThunderRoad November 19, 2014 9:20 PM GMT

Nov 19, 2014 -- 8:58PM, MJK wrote:


I'm a huge believer in God. I don't push it on anyone. Disappointing that those that don't seem to go out of their way to put down those of us that do.


I think religions a perfectly harmless thing. Where I take issue with it is when it's forced on me both legislatively and socially

Report HorseBurger1989 November 19, 2014 9:25 PM GMT
I'm a devout Burger man, only one burger man and that's me, I'm god, I believe in only one person and that's me
Report UnlikelyWinner November 19, 2014 9:34 PM GMT
It is difficult enough to imagine a time, roughly 13.7 billion years ago, when the entire universe existed as a singularity. According to the big bang theory, one of the main contenders vying to explain how the universe came to be, all the matter in the cosmos -- all of space itself -- existed in a form smaller than a subatomic particle.

I believe in God.
Report penzance November 19, 2014 9:47 PM GMT
too much suffering in the world for
any god to exist.
Report metro john November 19, 2014 9:48 PM GMT
It was a good story.
Report metro john November 19, 2014 9:50 PM GMT
Until revelations(not that keen on it after that)
Report metro john November 19, 2014 9:50 PM GMT
But I  do my best to be meekWink
Report bigmart November 19, 2014 10:13 PM GMT
i pray to the almighty when am waiting on a winner at chelt as it approaches the last LaughLaugh
Report xmoneyx November 19, 2014 10:25 PM GMT
a lot of yank top golfers are Christians including Webb Simpson

when he skyed his 3-wood 100 yds ryder cup 1st tee his prayers  weren't answered
Report salmon spray November 19, 2014 10:37 PM GMT
I am strictly speaking an agnostic,though I suspect a lot would label me an atheist. The universe came into existence somehow. There must have been a first cause,which you can call God if you must. What I don't believe is that I or anybody else is in a position to know what that first cause was.
Report HorseBurger1989 November 19, 2014 10:47 PM GMT
Bigmart, I don't pray in that instance, I keep repeating "Burger man gonna win, burger man gonna win, burger man gonna win".... the fuc ker falls !!!!
Report HorseBurger1989 November 19, 2014 10:50 PM GMT
There is a god, but not watching over us, I believe the first humans elected a leader and called him "god"... nowadays we call them "dirty lynching filthy backstabbing lying bastard" Presidents and PMs
Report brassneck November 19, 2014 10:52 PM GMT
Anybody know the name of horses with the name god in the name.
think there was a horse called -GODSWALK
Report HorseBurger1989 November 19, 2014 10:54 PM GMT
They need to name one after me, the burger man, imagine hearing "and here comes horseburger1989.... jumps it safely, he's jumped like a world beater today and as won by 20l."
Report HorseBurger1989 November 19, 2014 10:57 PM GMT
God was supposed to be forgiving but yet he lets lying bastards in suits take everything whilst kids go hungry in sh ite holes like Africa, he lets people rob like bankers but Africa is suffering sickening deceases like Ebola, he lets musicians sponge of suffering by releasing a single about the suffering of Ebola, and we all know that all the money made is not going to Africa, 90% of it is going into the back pockets of sponging cowards.

So.... No imo there is no fu cking God otherwise he wouldn't let this sh it happen.
Report HorseBurger1989 November 19, 2014 11:01 PM GMT
That grey haired tw at on X-factor the other night with his "this isn't about me, this isn't about you, but its about these children dying, its about the suffering">....................... Christ all fuc king mighty man, is there anything these lying fu ckers wont exploit for money?

Just go and fu cking pull down every fuc kers trousers and shove it in you bunch of greasy lying money grabbing bastards
Report brassneck November 19, 2014 11:06 PM GMT
How do you know there is no god.?
Report brassneck November 19, 2014 11:09 PM GMT
Napolean hill said that if anybody that tells you there is no god you ask them how do they know.Laugh
Report HorseBurger1989 November 19, 2014 11:16 PM GMT
I just don't believe and never will

I don't believe in this type of life we lead now though either, the corporate world we live in isn't healthy at all, it breeds dishonesty and disloyalty, we live in a "you be a bastard and you'll be fine",,, "you see him over there, he wants your job, you better stop him".. it breeds paranoia, it breeds dirty fu cking rats, it breeds people like "celebrities", the have and have nots, the have nots get their trousers pulled down and have it stuck right up there.

Celebrities are now acting as "mouthpieces" for the have nots ffs, these celebrities who are multi millionaires ffs man hahaha.

Stay safe peeps, the world is a place where you can be disloyal to that one person who really matters and that's yourself, going against your morals can lead to a sad state of mind.

No God, just a bunch of lying bastards.
Report big aitch November 19, 2014 11:20 PM GMT
Zig Ziggler was like Napolean Hill, good at teaching people how to go through life, with a strong belief in God. Many Preachers are the same, very strong personalities, love their guidance in most matters but don't share their religious beliefs.

Jim Rohn was very good too.
Report themightymac November 20, 2014 12:56 AM GMT
Godswalk was a smart sprinter trained by Vincent O`brien.
Report GEORGE.B November 20, 2014 1:56 AM GMT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZ5PQppudHc
Report errant November 20, 2014 2:53 AM GMT
Dave Allen on Religion.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxo81Ok9Urk
Report THE-GHOST-OF-DICKIE-BIRD November 20, 2014 3:13 AM GMT
Like i said im a non believer,but in my experiace christians are some of the nicest people i know.

Would love to think i would see my parents and brother ect in the afterlife . . But i dont think i will.

Always rem you are the maker of peoples memorys of you while you are here.

Question???

If there is a heaven and say a mother died at what 25 but her son lived on to be 99 before he went . . What happens when they meet up in heaven is she 25 him 99 but still her son???? ect ect ectConfusedConfused
Report metro john November 20, 2014 4:34 AM GMT
Competition timeHappy
Report moondan November 20, 2014 6:51 AM GMT
Greatest business idea ever, you get a promise of reward when your dead.

I was brought up under the cloud of the catholic church, never once saw a fat alter boy they were all slim and speedy, its only in recent years that the truth of why that was has emerged.Shocked
Report THE-GHOST-OF-DICKIE-BIRD November 20, 2014 7:23 AM GMT
Also another questionConfused . . .If we have a lord god the father looking over us.

Why do kids starve to death every day and things like the James Bulger and Baby P happenConfused

Dont get me wrong im not knocking those that do believe but i just cannot have it.

I do a few christian spirted things like help a retired greyhound home and sponser guide dogs for the blind, but i dont have to be a christian to have a christian spirt.

I hope i am total wrong and others are right because i would love to see my parents again.

But i do see them every day in my memorys . . . . .
Report big aitch November 20, 2014 7:42 AM GMT
I'm like Dickie, I like to think I have the ethics of a proper Christian, I will always help anyone or animal if I can, I give people the benefit of the doubt but sometimes it can backfire.

I have found that there are a few unpleasant people that use religion as an excuse to be quite bigoted and selfish, but it takes all sorts...
Report worple12 November 20, 2014 12:27 PM GMT
Most atheists are right when they say there is no God.But their view of God is totally at variance with the reality.God=That whose nature it is to be or God=That which is.Not a simple concept to grasp.Moses was puzzled when God spoke to him so he asked him his name.God replied ''I am who I am''(in other words-dont ask me stupid questions!)
Report worple12 November 20, 2014 12:37 PM GMT
When God spoke to Moses,poor Moses wanted to know who was talking to him.Whats your name? God replied ''I am who I am""(In other words -don't ask me stupid questions!).That's where atheists get confused.They define God as a man up there somewhere or a ghost at the bottom of the garden.
Christian define God=That which Is.Or that whose nature it is TO BE.
Not an easy concept.Hope this helps.
Report salmon spray November 20, 2014 12:44 PM GMT
I can just about swallow that worple but you are talking about Jadaism not Christianity. As I understand it most Jews don't believe in an afterlife in the same way Christians do.
Report THE-GHOST-OF-DICKIE-BIRD November 20, 2014 12:46 PM GMT
Im a ghost
Report Money Tree cost me thousands!! November 20, 2014 12:47 PM GMT
Why were there dinosaurs?
Report salmon spray November 20, 2014 12:48 PM GMT
So Marc Bolan could have hits ?
Report Money Tree cost me thousands!! November 20, 2014 12:52 PM GMT
What I mean is if god created man what is the explination of the dinosaurs?
Report Johnny_Mustang November 20, 2014 12:53 PM GMT
I went to a Jesuit college in London and it was brutal. Jesuits, for those who don't know, are the SS division of the catholic church. Happy to report that neither myself nor anyone else I knew experienced any form of buggery whatsoever.
Report THE-GHOST-OF-DICKIE-BIRD November 20, 2014 12:55 PM GMT
Good point mr tree.
Report salmon spray November 20, 2014 1:10 PM GMT
Tbf most intelligent Christians aren't fundamentalists any more. They accept evolution and tend to see The Old Testament as allegorical. The New Testament is the key Christian book but Christians were originally a Jewish sect so the Old Testament,the key Judaic document,became part of The Bible.
Report THE-GHOST-OF-DICKIE-BIRD November 20, 2014 1:46 PM GMT
to see The Old Testament as allegorical.

Yeah that wat eye fort uswellShocked
Report ribotman November 20, 2014 1:54 PM GMT
What I mean is if god created man what is the explination of the dinosaurs?

There isn't an explination,(from the religeous).

Evolution and creation are not compatible.

Its true you cannot prove there is no god,but you can argue there is no credible evidence for god.
Apart from ancient books written when among other things it was believed the world was flat.
Report THE-GHOST-OF-DICKIE-BIRD November 20, 2014 1:58 PM GMT
He (jesus) May of been an alien . . . .
Report MJK November 20, 2014 3:03 PM GMT
Dickie we all go back to the way we looked when we were happiest. I cannot tell you why or prove this but I have no doubt. Just as I have no doubt that if for no reason your face feels as though you've walked through cobwebs your parents are letting you know they're beside you. Be happy that so long as you don't kill someone you'll meet them againExcited
Report THE-GHOST-OF-DICKIE-BIRD November 20, 2014 6:21 PM GMT
MJK . . . IM LUCKY ENOUGH TO HAVE BEEN HAPPY ALL MY LIFE.Happy

THE THINGS THAT COME OUT OF THE PAVEMENT IN GHOST SCARE ME A BIT THOShocked
Report portmanpark November 20, 2014 6:47 PM GMT
worpie.......moses never existed ........nap
Report brassneck November 20, 2014 7:25 PM GMT
What about the holy grail,had that not something to do with god,if there is no god there is no point looking for the holy grail.LaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
Report salmon spray November 20, 2014 7:39 PM GMT
Nobody on here will find it. Oh wait there is Virgin.
Report THE-GHOST-OF-DICKIE-BIRD November 20, 2014 8:08 PM GMT
I'm after kings johns stuff,it's around here somewhere
Report salmon spray November 20, 2014 8:14 PM GMT
Have a good wash first.
Report THE-GHOST-OF-DICKIE-BIRD November 20, 2014 8:17 PM GMT
All I've found is 1933 penny which I threw away and fooking samphireCry
Report salmon spray November 20, 2014 8:19 PM GMT
Don't think 1933 can be King John's      Crazy
Report THE-GHOST-OF-DICKIE-BIRD November 20, 2014 8:31 PM GMT
Fink  if I rem rightly was there not only 7 of those made.ExcitedConfused
Report salmon spray November 20, 2014 8:32 PM GMT
Dunno. Was The Mint on strike ?
Report THE-GHOST-OF-DICKIE-BIRD November 20, 2014 8:36 PM GMT
What do you mean you don't know. . . . .Happy
Report Dave The Rave November 20, 2014 9:11 PM GMT
Some interesting comments dotted around the thread (and some humorous ones too).

As a species we are fairly certain in the idea of the Big Bang theory (an act of creation), and we believe in the concept of infinity (everlasting).

We know that we will die after a life span of say 75 years. We do not understand consciousness, memory and a whole raft of other things related to the human species (lets say the human spirit).

Is it hard to imagine that after our mortal existence on planet Earth there may be something else for this human spirit we know nothing about? Particularly as we live in a vast universe, that may be one of many multiverses (many leading Quantum Physicists are religious).

I don't believe there is a God who has a beard and robe and watches us like the ancient Greeks imagined their Gods did. However I do believe there could be something after this mortal existence, and I believe/hope that what follows is determined by how we behave during our time here and now, i.e. some sort of heaven (eternal peaceful rest) or hell (eternal tormented soul). I therefore try to live everyday with that in mind.

Rave on!

Dave
Report THE-GHOST-OF-DICKIE-BIRD November 20, 2014 9:15 PM GMT
Nice rave daveHappy
Report kevo November 20, 2014 9:31 PM GMT
Jesus saves.......but the Mongol hordes.
Report jodean November 20, 2014 10:08 PM GMT
99% of fighting in the world is over religion Plain
Report aasbff November 21, 2014 12:10 AM GMT
Was WW1 due to religion? WW2? Falklands War? Iraq war?
Report themightymac November 21, 2014 12:37 AM GMT
or Vietnam War, Spanish Civil War, Boer War, Russian Civil War, French Indo China War, Korean War, Malayan War, etc etc. It`s a Red Herring. Most true religious people of all persuasions are peaceful.
Report salmon spray November 21, 2014 12:40 AM GMT
Iraq war arguably so.
You're right about the other 3. But up till the 18th century most wars after the Christian/Islam era were about religion.
Report salmon spray November 21, 2014 12:42 AM GMT
The Spanish Civil War WAS about religion imo,but again themightymac is right that most modern wars have been about other things.
Report irishone November 21, 2014 12:53 AM GMT
I'm an atheist  (thanks be to god) ! Plain
Report aasbff November 21, 2014 1:03 AM GMT
penzance
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too much suffering in the world for
any god to exist.

Have you ever thought that God is not able to intervene?
Report THE-GHOST-OF-DICKIE-BIRD November 21, 2014 2:28 AM GMT
Aint much of a father then is heConfused
Report sean rua November 21, 2014 7:52 AM GMT
Nominally, I'm a Catholic, but frankly I don't really believe at least a third of the teachings.

What I do believe is that there IS a powerful over-riding superhuman force at work in the universe. I also believe that living things are too complex to be just the result of chaos. There is evidence of DESIGN.
Fore instance, a horse's leg.
Even our top engineering designers cannot help but admire the way this works. We can see too that man's intervention has actually weakened the species ( imo).
We ain't as clever as we like to think.

---

Intervention?
Nature does its thing; believers tell us that we have " free will".
We don't really know what tf is going on, but we like to try to predict the future and make excuses about the past.
Report MJK November 21, 2014 2:21 PM GMT
I'm sure all the non believers sit at home with a can of beans at Christmas
Report salmon spray November 21, 2014 2:30 PM GMT
How did you know ?      Sad
Report metro john November 21, 2014 2:34 PM GMT
Tonight on this forum, I will reveal the secret of the universe! just gotta dodge the CIA hit squad for the next 6 hours (up yours uncle sam)
Report THE-GHOST-OF-DICKIE-BIRD November 21, 2014 3:02 PM GMT
Mjk.   I love Xmas it's for kids and family's to get together also love to hear choirs sing,does not mean I have to believe to enjoy those things.    Yes I know it's a Christian festival and for those that believe I have the utmost respect for but I don't.      Like I said earlier my brother was a churcwarden  was also a bell ringer and I admired him for his strong beliefs, he also respected that I did not. . . . But he never enjoyed Xmas more than me, we just done things in different ways
Report fred c dobs November 21, 2014 3:13 PM GMT
I am a selfmade man and i worship the creator.Devil
Report Lampus November 21, 2014 3:15 PM GMT
Bush.
Report pulio November 21, 2014 3:26 PM GMT

Nov 19, 2014 -- 9:34PM, UnlikelyWinner wrote:


It is difficult enough to imagine a time, roughly 13.7 billion years ago, when the entire universe existed as a singularity. According to the big bang theory, one of the main contenders vying to explain how the universe came to be, all the matter in the cosmos -- all of space itself -- existed in a form smaller than a subatomic particle.I believe in God.


The evidence seems to point towards a "big bang" type of scenario and it's pretty much accepted as more or less a fact by scientists.

It's impossible to get your head around though. I think it was likely created by something, which would be "God" I suppose. It's clear that outside of the universe, the laws of physics as we know them break down completely. I'd say that something like the big bang would more than likely be created by some vastly intelligent and capable being but it's probably impossible to speculate on what happens outside of the universe because the laws of physics no longer hold. Anything could be possible. Huge universes exploding out of nothing is very very hard to grasp mentally.

When you say God created something you have to go back and explain how God himself was created though so the argument backfires. Maybe universes can blow up out of nothing outside of the universe. Impossible to know at this point.

Report Makybe_Diva November 21, 2014 3:32 PM GMT
"I'm sure all the non believers sit at home with a can of beans at Christmas"

Christmas was originally a pagan festival.
Report brassneck November 21, 2014 11:09 PM GMT
but the year is 2014, my question is 2014 years since what?
Something must have happened to call the first year 1(one).one year since what?before this year 1 they called the numbers BC or ADGrin
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