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barry dennis
28 Oct 14 09:52
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betting ring pitch allocation. Jim Cremin racing post, "Scanlon explained he was advised by consultant Steve Clare, and part of the remit was to ensure a strong market, but also to include local firms who could gaurantee being able to reach the Essex course when the weather was poor"

sadly, even though in my application I advised them I live 10 mins from the course I was not considered suitable for the top 16

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By:
dambuster
When: 28 Oct 14 09:59
Don't worry barry, in 6 months time, they'll be 6 bookies left, and they'll asking you .
By:
dambuster
When: 28 Oct 14 10:00
They'll "be"asking you
By:
Deltâ
When: 28 Oct 14 10:02
if the weather is that poor the bookie cant get there, no chance the horses arriving imo ..
By:
foxy
When: 28 Oct 14 10:05
I thought betfred was Manchester based that's not local is it ?
By:
TheNorfolkMafia
When: 28 Oct 14 10:20
Outside the number:-

9) Paul Wilkinson

10) Michael Campbell

11) Benny Jones

12) Wayne Monaghan

13) Keith Puddick

14) Greg Harriott

15) Martin Bailey

16) Richard Liles


Some of the most "knowledgeable bookmakers" in the land!

God help them if the 'machine' goes down!

Laugh
By:
dambuster
When: 28 Oct 14 10:21
Oh well, I only live 10 min away , so I'll be taking my I phone with me if that's what I'm up against
By:
dambuster
When: 28 Oct 14 10:22
You'll be telling me Brian Hazell is on there next,
He's local , if he has a plane
By:
TheNorfolkMafia
When: 28 Oct 14 10:23
dambuster • October 28, 2014 9:21 AM GMT
Oh well, I only live 10 min away , so I'll be taking my I phone with me if that's what I'm up against


Laugh
By:
TheNorfolkMafia
When: 28 Oct 14 10:31
Barry, it's a travesty that you were not in 'the 8'!

Love

Skinto
By:
Stow_judge
When: 28 Oct 14 10:54
What did we learn from this? That Barry Dennis does not know how to copy & paste and his spelling is dodgy.

One-year deal for eight layers at Chelmsford

CHELMSFORD CITY, which stages the first of 58 fixtures in 2015 on Sunday, January 11, has confirmed its betting ring line-up for the opening year of operations.
Joe Scanlon of Betfred, who is chairman of the new racecourse, a joint venture between Betfred and Bet Solutions International, said: "We were keen to establish the course in the first year and allow people to work out the real value of pitches, so we have entered a one-year deal with the eight bookmakers listed.
"It's probably not well known but Fred Done's father was a racecourse bookie in the ‘bad old/good old days', so he has always had an affinity with the ring. Fred wants this to work for everyone so the only initial charge will be five times the admission, less than any other track, which covers the entrance for the bookmaker and a workman. Next year we will invite tenders and pitches will go to the highest bidders."
Scanlon explained he was advised by consultant Steve Clare, and part of the remit was to ensure a strong market, but also to include local firms who could guarantee being able to reach the Essex course when the weather was poor. Scanlon is also looking at a system whereby bookmakers who cannot attend give notice, so reserve layers can take up the opportunity.
The former temporary grandstand at what used to be Great Leighs is being replaced by a permanent structure at a cost of £6 million. Like the old stand, it is situated on the inside of the course.

Scanlon said: "From the steppings there will be a clear view from the last turn, some two and a half furlongs from home. It will also feature a high-level restaurant, operated by local caterers Graysons, which has a panoramic view of the course."
The all-weather track, the only purpose-built one in Britain, was always popular with trainers and prize-money levels are set to be good. "Arc proved good prize-money attracts good horses and huge crowds with its Good Friday showcase of finals at Lingfield," Scanlon said.
Chelmsford also has a ten-year media rights deal with SIS. Done's shareholding in SIS rose to 14 per cent after he acquired the Tote.
Star Sports was one of many firms disappointed at not getting an opportunity to bet there, but owner Ben Keith plans to bid for a pitch when it comes up.
In his regular blog he is cynical about the appearance of Ladbrokes and Hills on the list, but added: "I take this opportunity to wish the six successful independent applicants the very best of luck. I think the big days there will be just that, and I hope you all get a nice few quid.
"Fred Done is a man that is an inspiration to every independent bookmaker in the country. Self-made, he has kicked on, and also kicked The Firms [the big three] in the balls at every opportunity!"
By:
barry dennis
When: 28 Oct 14 11:01
sorry I haven't mastered how to copy and paste, also that spelling guarantee was incorrect. would that have affected my application
By:
Stow_judge
When: 28 Oct 14 11:06
I would not think so. Perhaps your brown envelope was a touch light.
By:
johnnywilkinson
When: 28 Oct 14 12:05
LOOKING AT THE TOP 8.....I HOPE NOBODY CRACKS A JOKE
By:
johnnywilkinson
When: 28 Oct 14 12:07
BE ABOUT AS AMUSING AS WATCHING PAINT DRY
By:
democrat
When: 28 Oct 14 12:43
In the business world unsuccessful applicants for a job can ask for and expect an explanation as to the reasons they were were not appointed. I suspect that particular right will not apply in this case. I suspect it would be difficult to differentiate between the various merits of the applicants outside the 'High Street set' and therefore the methodology used to determine the 16 named positions remains open to conjecture but probably some string pulling might have played a part. Genuine unsuccessful aspirants should start making plans to ensure their bids succeed in twelve months time when the sole criteria will be 'how much are you prepared to pay ?'.
By:
democrat
When: 28 Oct 14 12:45
'were  were' = 'were' oops ! This post discounted on grounds of lack of proof reading ! Scared
By:
DONEITHERE
When: 28 Oct 14 12:49
Must admit there are some miserable buggers amongst that 8 . The pity is that factmachine is not on the list to liven it up a bit but some goon wailing bigger than the machine at the top of his voice is probably not seen as advantageous to the  home firms business ethic .
By:
adge
When: 28 Oct 14 14:26
I don't see why an eloquently worded request as to why an applicant was overlooked[ particularly locally based ] should not warrant a reasoned reply
By:
factmachine
When: 28 Oct 14 14:33
DONEITHERE,AS ONE OF BRITAINS LEADING COMMISSION AGENTS AND EWAY FLIMPERS IM ASTOUNDED YOUR NOT ON THE LISTShocked
By:
Stow_judge
When: 28 Oct 14 14:34
How local are those that are actually on the list?
By:
factmachine
When: 28 Oct 14 14:34
AS FOR "ENSURE A STRONG MARKET" BETFRED NUMBER ONE!LaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
By:
tictactoe
When: 28 Oct 14 14:36
No Corals?
By:
tictactoe
When: 28 Oct 14 14:38
Oh sorry, did not see strong market.
By:
factmachine
When: 28 Oct 14 14:39
LaughLaughLaughLaugh
By:
tictactoe
When: 28 Oct 14 14:44
Is there any linking up allowed?
By:
democrat
When: 28 Oct 14 16:16
'Eloquently worded request' - where can you get one of those adge ? Wink I have heard one omitted party has taken his rejection as 'a personal insult' - his pride might never recover !!! Whoops
By:
gills nut
When: 28 Oct 14 18:04
For one of those books its a minimum 4hr round trip Crazy
By:
ThirdTimeLucky
When: 28 Oct 14 19:11
I'm sure one of the top 8 has probably tabled a motion in parliament as to why he's only got one pitch and not 5 of them.
By:
TheNorfolkMafia
When: 28 Oct 14 19:49
Ooh, You Are Awful, But I Like You!

Laugh
By:
homefortea
When: 28 Oct 14 20:08
Feck me is the bald knocker appointing the judge as well......

There will be more Stewards Inquiries and amended results than ever before.

Rancid operation and to site the Grandstand in the middle of the course shows how much thought has gone into it....
By:
foxy
When: 28 Oct 14 20:48
the owner of the track betting in pick one that could be the start of a slippery slope.
By:
paulie wallnuts
When: 28 Oct 14 21:04
Anybody know who the 8 actually are?.......
By:
homefortea
When: 28 Oct 14 21:04
Pick one will have a restriction of sp only and no each-way so pick two will be a millionaire.....

The bald knocker will not take a bet so why has he got a pitch.....
By:
TheNorfolkMafia
When: 28 Oct 14 22:17
paulie wallnuts • October 28, 2014 8:04 PM GMT
Anybody know who the 8 actually are?.......


1) Betfred

2) John White

3) Ladbrokes

4) Mel Attreed

5) Hills

6) Barry Johnson

7) Ed Thompson

8) Joe O'Gorman
By:
paulie wallnuts
When: 28 Oct 14 22:24
Thank you Norfolk mafia.....
By:
TheNorfolkMafia
When: 28 Oct 14 22:33
Love
By:
democrat
When: 29 Oct 14 00:40
Crumbs skinto has got something right at last ! Ooops that should read Norfolk. The precedent being set by  the course owner having a pitch in the ring is debatable whether it is a conflict of interests is for the individual to decide.
By:
Thegamestraightlol
When: 29 Oct 14 08:09
Another course you wont want to have a bet at = Barry you had result not getting a pick , as you would not be able to shout out honest prices like those in top 6 !!!
CryCry
By:
Lightbulbs Fan Club
When: 29 Oct 14 08:44
The SPs will be 2pc a runner (or more) every race....the crowd will be minimal bar perhaps Saturday nights....and after around a year Barry Johnson will have 3 of the 8 picks and the tote will have "pitches" dotted around every drinking hole...
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