I read this story to one of the Polish labourers we have at our house at the moment and he was quite upset. Likewise, our Lithuanian maid was visibly shaken.
Good to hear Holywell.I read this story to one of the Polish labourers we have at our house at the moment and he was quite upset. Likewise, our Lithuanian maid was visibly shaken.
I've no problem at all with the Eastern Europeans or the Indians as they are generally very hard working and polite.The people I can't stand are the white and West Indian layabouts and drug dealers who between them have all but destroyed many of our cities.If you have a look at the photos of those serving whole life sentences you don't need a degree to see where the problem lies.However voting UKIP is not the solution;it will only let in the Labour party and then all will be irretrievably lost for a generation.
I've no problem at all with the Eastern Europeans or the Indians as they are generally very hard working and polite.The people I can't stand are the white and West Indian layabouts and drug dealers who between them have all but destroyed many of our
If ukip could possabley bring about a halt to what i said above then thats my party.
I dont give a flying fook about polotics (or can spell it) nor do i understand it, or want to, they are all out for themselves whatever party they are from.
Ukip is my party and il cry if i want too.
Simple for me.If ukip could possabley bring about a halt to what i said above then thats my party.I dont give a flying fook about polotics (or can spell it) nor do i understand it, or want to, they are all out for themselves whatever party they are f
they are the only show in town for a protest vote and people are voting for them for different reasons from the far right to the far left and everything inbetween, the disgrace is that all the 3 main partys have to offer is negative your vote for ukip is wasted or lets labour in,so what you cant build a new party in one election,this time we may get a new coalition they mess up and maybe we,ll get a snap election or next time round ukip or another protest party will emerge and eat into the big 3 again, the coalition with their ridiculous fixed terms doesnt help we,re already now wasting a year playing games
they are the only show in town for a protest vote and people are voting for them for different reasons from the far right to the far left and everything inbetween,the disgrace is that all the 3 main partys have to offer is negative your vote for ukip
we had one it was kept out of power for 13 years and hated by the country ,it had a quaint name
THE NASTY PARTY,
as you,ve witnessed in the last 6 months with their rapid retreat to the far right of the party
we had one it was kept out of power for 13 years and hated by the country ,it had a quaint nameTHE NASTY PARTY,as you,ve witnessed in the last 6 months with their rapid retreat to the far right of the party
How intolerant is Johnny Mustang,how self important,how arrogant.
Its intolerable to him that anyone could have a different opinion,steps should be taken to suppress this opinion is the next move. Label the supporters ignorant or better still racist,threaten to take their children off them if they don't fall back into line
If you are British and love your country you would be a UKIP supporter. If you want self determination you will be a UKIP supporter. If you are working class you should be a UKIP supporter.
Johnny Mustang you have the Irish Flag beside you so presumably a patriot,you should be a UKIP supporter.
How intolerant is Johnny Mustang,how self important,how arrogant.Its intolerable to him that anyone could have a different opinion,steps should be taken to suppress this opinion is the next move.Label the supporters ignorant or better still racist,th
Wildman, they have no party, there is only Farage, did you see that pimp they put on Newsnight as their Commonwealth spokesman? Beyond laughable, he was embarrassing.
Wildman, they have no party, there is only Farage, did you see that pimp they put on Newsnight as their Commonwealth spokesman? Beyond laughable, he was embarrassing.
Saddo...completely agree with you ;they're stuffed full of ex BNP and other far right loonys.Unfortunately they'll walk Rochester by election.Their rise reminds me of the post ww1 national socialists in Germany.
Saddo...completely agree with you ;they're stuffed full of ex BNP and other far right loonys.Unfortunately they'll walk Rochester by election.Their rise reminds me of the post ww1 national socialists in Germany.
I don't really see Farage as a Hitler figure,and he's certainly no Mussolini,who DID start of as a syndicalist.Rather off the top of my head I would suggest the more recent Le Pen is a closer analogy.
I don't really see Farage as a Hitler figure,and he's certainly no Mussolini,who DID start of as a syndicalist.Rather off the top of my head I would suggest the more recent Le Pen is a closer analogy.
Agree with bunneh, they devour 5 year chunks of our lives at a time. A protest by people not voting would only waste another 5 and would throw the whole political system into disarray. That might bring some real change.
Agree with bunneh, they devour 5 year chunks of our lives at a time. A protest by people not voting would only waste another 5 and would throw the whole political system into disarray. That might bring some real change.
I think that anyone with aspirations of voting should first have to pass some kind of rudimentary intelligence test. Clearly the third of UK voters foolishly considering giving their approval to UKIP would fail this examination. With flying colours. Idiots.
I think that anyone with aspirations of voting should first have to pass some kind of rudimentary intelligence test. Clearly the third of UK voters foolishly considering giving their approval to UKIP would fail this examination. With flying colours.
Just been up town . . Se the "usual" This one walks around town 24/7 and i mean 24/7 in the same clothes which are falling to bits picking dogends up going to the same place smokes it, then off "it" goes again does this day in day out.
At least he helps keep the streets clear of dogends.
I live in my little bubble dont give a shyte what happens in the big world, voting wont make a shyte of diff to me and my bubble.
But if ukip can make my town/bubble that bit more can and spittle free then they are the party for me.
Thanks for that salmon . . . eyefinkJust been up town . . Se the "usual" This one walks around town 24/7 and i mean 24/7 in the same clothes which are falling to bits picking dogends up going to the same place smokes it, then off "it" goes again does
They need a few jockey changes: Boris Johnson should take over from Cameron, Richard Wilson could lead Labour and Ian Hislop the Lib Dems.Maybe some good female candidates would help make it more fun as well. Farage is just like Salmond, misleading mostly the working classes with promises of great wealth.
They need a few jockey changes: Boris Johnson should take over from Cameron, Richard Wilson could lead Labour and Ian Hislop the Lib Dems.Maybe some good female candidates would help make it more fun as well. Farage is just like Salmond, misleading m
The fact that most people don't even know UKIP policies,other than the immigration one,but are still prepared to vote from them shows,just how disgruntled many people are.
We pay out millions and millions and pounds in handouts to immigrants who should not get a penny. We have a NHS which is falling apart,while we send billions of pounds out in foreign aid. We live in a country where the dole has become a career rather than a safety net. A rail system which not much short of laughable.a road system that has more pot holes than tarmac and several multi billion pound companies who operate is this country and pay little or no tax.
You wonder why people have had a guts full of the people who attempt to run this country
The fact that most people don't even know UKIP policies,other than the immigration one,but are still prepared to vote from them shows,just how disgruntled many people are.We pay out millions and millions and pounds in handouts to immigrants who shoul
I think it really is a case of "ordinary" people being absolutely jarred off with what they see and hear in their day to day lives. Personally, I'm totally unsure of UKIP and their "policies" but can totally understand their attraction.
Well said, TRD.I think it really is a case of "ordinary" people being absolutely jarred off with what they see and hear in their day to day lives. Personally, I'm totally unsure of UKIP and their "policies" but can totally understandtheir attraction.
said it last week the westminister bubbble are running around with their trousers around their ankles thinking this is all about europe, but if a few strawmen such as clegg,cable,hulme,alexander etc had resisted the allure of the ministerial limosine the libdems would probably be polling 30% plus today instead of been on the brink of oblivion,ukip are the only protest vote in town
said it last week the westminister bubbble are running around with their trousers around their ankles thinking this is all about europe,but if a few strawmen such as clegg,cable,hulme,alexander etc had resisted the allure of the ministerial limosine
Not sure the ordinary man in the street has ever recovered from seeing the banks virtually bringing this country to its knees,many individuals making a kings ransom while they were doing it. Then,seeing everyone else having to pay for their actions and being put through the financial ringer.
It's like a Mr Smith committing a murder,the whole country knowing he committed the murder,but we can't put him in prison so we lock up other people to pay for the crime instead,while Mr Smith goes free.
Add to that the immigration factor etc etc and many people in this country have just had enough
Not sure the ordinary man in the street has ever recovered from seeing the banks virtually bringing this country to its knees,many individuals making a kings ransom while they were doing it. Then,seeing everyone else having to pay for their actions a
Here is the pimpy looking guy for those who don't know what they will be voting for. I assume he would make their cabinet if you get em in.http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/10/21/ukip-winston-mckenzie-newsnight_n_6019290.html
That idiot makes me want to repeat a 'picking cotton' comment I made earlier this year about Toure which some clown reported and got me a couple of months ban.....so better not repeat it
That idiot makes me want to repeat a 'picking cotton' comment I made earlier this year about Toure which some clown reported and got me a couple of months ban.....so better not repeat it
I doubt whether putting people like him in charge would do owt but make us an even bigger laughing stock than we are now, dickie. Careful what you wish for.
I doubt whether putting people like him in charge would do owt but make us an even bigger laughing stock than we are now, dickie. Careful what you wish for.
Saddo . . As stated i have no interest in polotics i respect and admire peeps like you and phishy for avin there views, it just does not interest me in the slightest.
Im a simple man.
My borders lay at the outskirts of wiso, this town has been destroyed by immirgration . . . It is a utter shytehole, never used to be.
If voting ukip will give me my town back then
ukip gets my x
Saddo . . As stated i have no interest in polotics i respect and admire peeps like you and phishy for avin there views, it just does not interest me in the slightest.Im a simple man.My borders lay at the outskirts of wiso, this town has been destroye
The trouble is that in many towns across the UK immigration has turned those towns into cess pits,and towns that people have been living in for many years they no longer recognize.
People have had enough and they see UKIP as the only party that speaks for them
The trouble is that in many towns across the UK immigration has turned those towns into cess pits,and towns that people have been living in for many years they no longer recognize.People have had enough and they see UKIP as the only party that speaks
immigration and europe are are a smokescreen,your town wont get any better whilst the likes off facebook,google,supermarkets,starbucks,callcentres etc,etc are allowed to pay poverty inducing wages,any pressure put on them to do so will result in them migrating to the next country allowing them to pay obscene wages whilst paying no or little taxes on their profits you,d have more chance of getting your town back if you could persuade these multi nationals to set up elsewhere where that countrys government either through migration or screwing the poor would have to provide these companies with an almost free workforce
immigration and europe are are a smokescreen,your town wont get any better whilst the likes off facebook,google,supermarkets,starbucks,callcentres etc,etc are allowed to pay poverty inducing wages,any pressure put on them to do so will result in them
In an odd way I hope Ukip gain power so the plebians will no longer have someone to blame and hate.
It's previously been - Jews, Irish, Blacks, Indians, Pakis, Muslims, east Europeans.
The Daily Mail will probably fold.
The uneducated white working class will then probably wake up one day and say "hey, I'm still screwed and I can't blame any foreigners, what shall I do"?
In an odd way I hope Ukip gain power so the plebians will no longer have someone to blame and hate.It's previously been - Jews, Irish, Blacks, Indians, Pakis, Muslims, east Europeans.The Daily Mail will probably fold.The uneducated white working clas
Thomas Telford received no formal education after the age of fourteen .
Brainwashed would be a better term for the "white working class "
the most free thinking people i have met have little to no qualifications ....HTH .
The uneducated .....Education does not mean smart .Thomas Telford received no formal education after the age of fourteen .Brainwashed would be a better term for the "white working class "the most free thinking people i have met have little to no qual
Come the election people will return to the normal 3 parties and although UKIP will have done well they wont be in any position for power as a coalition.
What they should then do is say thank you Mr Farage please move on, then get rid of all the useless spokesmen in their team and moderate the party, then in 5 years time they could hold the balance of power.
No matter who gets in next time as a country we are in this mess for a long haul.
Come the election people will return to the normal 3 parties and although UKIP will have done well they wont be in any position for power as a coalition.What they should then do is say thank you Mr Farage please move on, then get rid of all the usele
I think wages and poverty have little if any bearing on the current situation in many towns and cities throughout this country . i have quite a few friends now who are the result of immigration over the last forty years or so and they are decent working people so do not anybody try to label me as racist for my views .A large part of the problem comes from the arrival of mass numbers from communities and countrys where the way of life is vastly different from the way of life that used to be the standard and norm here .I am not aware of any area or community in this land that is a better place now than it was before immigration and attempted integration . In an ideal world the mass movement and relocation of peoples would not be a problem but to accept into any community with good and fair standards of values and living large numbers of people who are used to existing to much lower standards is not only not good policy ,but is downright dangerous . Large numbers have arrived here over many years from societies where crime is rife and violence is a regular way of both living and aquiring some sort of power . I was born in 1956 in an outskirt of a town in yorkshire called Dewsbury which was very working class then but was overall a pretty safe place to live and grow up although we had our share of lowlifes . Now that area is a virtual no go area with drug dealing ,violence and thuggery rife , overall it is not a very nice place .All the lowering of standards cannot be blamed on immigration though as from the sixties on successive governments have allowed and often encouraged the acceptance of reliability on the state by people who do not want to work whilst at the same time discipline in society has gradually eroded to the state where nowadays the victims of antisocial crime are regarded as secondary to the " human rights " of the perpetrators and i believe it is now a public backlash that is swelling the support for ukip and i can see days of rekoning coming in the not too distant future . As a closure to this in my childhood neighbourhood last week there was a large mass streetfight between eastern europeans and the pakistani and bangladeshi factions with several taken to hospital with major knife injuries and two nearly died . A reflection of the times im afraid .
I think wages and poverty have little if any bearing on the current situation in many towns and cities throughout this country . i have quite a few friends now who are the result of immigration over the last forty years or so and they are decent wor
im 55 when i was a kid where my auntie lived, a mass brawl on the grren on a sunday after the pub closed was tradition,they only phoned the police if it didnt happen ,they felt robbed, so a mass brawl is hardly earth shattering
im 55 when i was a kid where my auntie lived, a mass brawl on the grren on a sunday after the pub closed was tradition,they only phoned the police if it didnt happen ,they felt robbed, so a mass brawl is hardly earth shattering
i watched newsnight this week and laughed at what was clearly a ukip exercise to try and broaden the party appeal and show another face apart from farage
that was a complete joke, but farage has appeal to normal voters and you can only imagine how far labour would win the next election if they had a leader even half as appealing instead of the wallace (wallace & grommit) faced idiot they have at the helm now
i watched newsnight this week and laughed at what was clearly a ukip exercise to try and broaden the party appeal and show another face apart from faragethat was a complete joke, but farage has appeal to normal voters and you can only imagine how far
Capitalism cannot function properly without creating a scapegoat for the poorer members of society to focus on.
When there's no scapegoat the people turn on the system with violence.
If you think immigration is the problem then you are deluded, naive and stupid.
Capitalism cannot function properly without creating a scapegoat for the poorer members of society to focus on.When there's no scapegoat the people turn on the system with violence.If you think immigration is the problem then you are deluded, naive a
the lib dems are finished as a party now that everybody knows a vote for them is a vote for the tories despite their pre election lies.
if UKIP does increase it's vote considerably then they might well hold the balance of power between labour and tories in this country.
the lib dems are finished as a party now that everybody knows a vote for them is a vote for the tories despite their pre election lies. if UKIP does increase it's vote considerably then they might well hold the balance of power between labour and tor
breadnbutter 26 Oct 14 15:12 Joined: 29 Aug 06 | Topic/replies: 4,769 | Blogger: breadnbutter's blog The uneducated .....
Education does not mean smart .
Thomas Telford received no formal education after the age of fourteen .
Brainwashed would be a better term for the "white working class "
the most free thinking people i have met have little to no qualifications ....HTH .
If HTH is some kind of acronym for 'hope that helps' then I'm afraid it doesn't help in the slightest. Nothing in your post adds anything to this debate and therefore would you be kind enough to have a sensible point to make should you wish to post again please?
breadnbutter 26 Oct 14 15:12 Joined: 29 Aug 06 | Topic/replies: 4,769 | Blogger: breadnbutter's blogThe uneducated .....Education does not mean smart .Thomas Telford received no formal education after the age of fourteen .Brainwashed would be a bette