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mmmalushka
09 Oct 14 22:12
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1/4 the odds ew in the 20 runner h/cap tomorrow? You can advertise here!

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By:
yorkie1
When: 09 Oct 14 22:27
good bye
By:
adge
When: 09 Oct 14 22:31
there will be 2 or 3 but mostly lower win prices than those going a fifth odds.
but if that's what you prefer
By:
factmachine
When: 09 Oct 14 22:34
VERY POOR!
By:
factmachine
When: 09 Oct 14 22:36
DOES YORKSHIRE ACTUALLY HAVE AN ONCOURSE BOOKMAKER WHO BETS TRADITIONAL EWAY ODDS??????????????????????
By:
mmmalushka
When: 09 Oct 14 22:39
My experience has been the books that have always bet to traditional ew terms are usually the ones who normally bet to lower percentages but much higher volumes.Advertise here!
By:
intheknow
When: 09 Oct 14 22:53
mmmma - you are surely mistaken

I can't think why anyone would want to be ultra competitive on the win prices & still offer 1/4 4 places

Still who knows, there's one born every minute . . .
By:
factmachine
When: 09 Oct 14 22:59
MMMA,I CAN THINK OF PLENTY WHO ARE ULTRA UNCOMPETATIVE ON THE WIN PRICES AND STILL OFFER 1/5 4 PLACES,THEN HAVE THE CHEEK TO COMPLAIN THE GAMES GONELaughLaughLaugh
By:
mmmalushka
When: 10 Oct 14 10:13
Tend to agree with factmachine as regards most of the York bookies,1/5 the odds 1234 it is then
COME RACING????
By:
johnnywilkinson
When: 10 Oct 14 11:02
IM SURE ADGE WILL MAMMY ,AND YA CAN HAVE A GRAND ON AT 8s TOO
By:
adge
When: 10 Oct 14 11:49
no , I'm not at York , johnny , and Newmarket tomorrow betting 1/4 1234 on TWO races

mind you the last time down there the silver Cambridgeshire had 24 runners and when I priced up at 1/4 the computer showed that I was betting to 97% on the places..and that was just the opening show...all shows how pointless it all is.
By:
adge
When: 10 Oct 14 12:12
just been looking at the exchange win and place markets..can't get 1/4 odds on ANY runner , in fact a number are worse than 1/5th..poor value there too eh maam
By:
Prophet or Doom
When: 10 Oct 14 13:00
The problem the on-course bookies face is that a punter at the races will instead of having his £50 each way 1/5 odds with the on course bookmaker will have a few taps on his smart phone and get the bet at 1/4 the odds a place with an online firm. He may also get BOG and double result concessions too.
By:
adge
When: 10 Oct 14 13:06
no problem with that as long as he's happy with 12/1 instead of the 14/1 in front of him with the course books.
plenty of mid week punters do check with exchange prices on favs before betting with course bookmakers too btw
By:
mmmalushka
When: 10 Oct 14 13:10
How many times do I  have to explain this adge,you cant compare ew betting with place only betting.Betting into a 98%-102% under/overround market is never poor value.
By:
adge
When: 10 Oct 14 13:36
which answers your own question , you , for whatever reason think that course books should bet to 88 to 90% on places when the exchange doesn't. you want it both ways .
and before you reply that it's two separate markets , yes , we do bet place only
By:
democrat
When: 10 Oct 14 13:42
Oh dear adge I'd got you down as a cert runner at York tomorrow! Having made so many trips down the A1 recently you really ought to buy a second home South of Peterborough. I'm please to see your love/hate relationship with mmama is standing the test of time Wink
By:
adge
When: 10 Oct 14 14:37
yes he's got me at it. laid four horses for a bit of fun for places that were approaching 1/6th odds a place on here , but included laying a 350 to 100 the winner
By:
unbiased
When: 10 Oct 14 15:10
Bookmakers were betting 1/4 odds a place,and overbroke,without knowing it pre. computers.Now the computer enlightens them.
By:
adge
When: 10 Oct 14 15:54
perfectly true , unbiased , but at the same time not as strongly so as we didn't have to compete with exchanges as well as we do now
By:
unbiased
When: 10 Oct 14 16:05
adge,check out the prices done oncourse on the 3.50 at Newters,just finished.I made it they bet to 0%,or slightly overbroke,as the 12/1 shot shortened to 7/1.Was monitoring it closely.Slaves to machine!
By:
adge
When: 10 Oct 14 16:12
you can keep telling them but it just goes over their heads.
will have bet to 106% , 1% per runner , but every price change lowers that percentage.
you are almost certainly right that they ended up overbroke
By:
johnnywilkinson
When: 10 Oct 14 16:16
IF THEY WANNA BET OCERBROKE LET EM -THERE ENJOYING THERE SELVES......AINT A BETTER PLACE THAN THAT GREAT TRACK CALLED YORK FULL OF HANDICAPS
By:
factmachine
When: 10 Oct 14 16:18
ENGLISH PLEASE?????????????
By:
johnnywilkinson
When: 10 Oct 14 16:23
OVERBROKE .....SORRY DEAN BROWN
By:
adge
When: 10 Oct 14 17:51
that's ok , zipper , my winter in the Caribbean is already booked
By:
zipper
When: 10 Oct 14 18:01
lay the nap boys in the  Racing Post naps comp   ...  and you can live in the Caribbean
41 NAPS yesterday  they got 3   the other  38 got beat   it all  there in black and white ...take a look ...take a punt.
By:
zipper
When: 10 Oct 14 18:14
adge.. a guy called tightfist  has all the stats on The Nap Boys  re The RAcing Post .. hes worth a call   ok we never got on  but  he knows all the facts
By:
mmmalushka
When: 10 Oct 14 23:02
Good old adge,betting" 1/4 the odds 2 races tomorrow" one a 24 runner h/cap the other a 36 runner h/cap, that,s very generous of you adge you sure your not a modern day  Carnegie?
By:
adge
When: 10 Oct 14 23:14
yes , I've already priced them up . one is 106% on places and the other [ 34 runners ] is 115%.
and that's before fluctuations and non runners..NOT VERY CLEVER IS IT , mmmaluska
By:
mmmalushka
When: 10 Oct 14 23:20
Oh dearie me adge you really dont understand the mathematics of ew betting.
By:
Big_Issue
When: 10 Oct 14 23:23
Bookies at York lighting Cigars with Fifty's as leaving course today
By:
mmmalushka
When: 10 Oct 14 23:31
Big-Issue, for todays breed of bookies/traders  those results not as good as times gone by.
By:
adge
When: 10 Oct 14 23:34
clearly you know more than me , mmm , I've only been trying to make it pay for 42 years
By:
mmmalushka
When: 10 Oct 14 23:49
With  those ew terms you bet to I,m not surprised your "winter holiday in the carribean is already booked"
By:
factmachine
When: 11 Oct 14 07:56
HEXHAM TODAY,BIGGER THAN THE MACHINE(AND YOU CAN BE ON)TRADITIONAL EWAY EVERY RACE EVERY MEETING,NO COMMISSION,NO PREMIUM CHARGE,COME RACING!Happy
By:
adge
When: 11 Oct 14 08:27
it's all about mathematics and why to be competitive 1/4 odds each way on 16 to 20 runners just does not work with what the racecourse punter of today demands , mmmalushka.
I trust you will eventually realize that is the case. the value is clearly still there compared to exchanges if you look for it
By:
intheknow
When: 11 Oct 14 10:13
Paul Johnson that's one

Stop slagging people off and you might regain some credability
By:
adge
When: 11 Oct 14 21:08
paul Johnson firm bet 1/4 odds first five in the ces , but of course at mostly lower win prices
also 1/4 odds each way in the second race .
don't know if better value than enhanced win prices but value everywhere to suit your taste . you just have to look for it.
By:
factmachine
When: 11 Oct 14 21:18
WOW,THERE IS ONE,SHOCKShocked
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