korals have my photo...is this legal?

I dident know all this......................Im just off down there.................Im going to change my top & comb my hair

They do, Im a code red customer every time I place (try to) they ring through and tell the guy on the risk desk where Im stood. Now I give them my slip and go for a pizz, its not as if Im having fortunes on. Got a knock back on a £10 ew double last bet I placed (or tried to). They really are poor, worst of it is the staff know they are as well.

Hills were taken to court over a similar matter and had to settle for not a small amount, try and get the manager to hand you a copy of any photo if you can and any accompanying documents that might have been sent round by the area manager will all help

Haven't you noticed,Britain is a surveillence society. We are being filmed and photographed everywhere we go,not to mention e-mails/phones etc.

Of course it's all for 'your safety and security'.

So don't  worry your little heads about anything.Big Brother is watching over us all.

My boy.....as a teacher was not allowed to photograph Aisians wivout permission...................is this an angle................

I've got a still photo of the email sent by the area manager that contains my image and standing by it is the manager, so proofwise it's fairly watertight. Solicitor will do it 'no win no fee' and reckons it could go somewhere under human rights legislation. Is it worth contacting coral to get their 'side' of things before continuing?

Id say that there was a sign i.e. cct............once theres a sign & U hang abt in there.........think the sign solves it for them

Coral will just deny so I wouldn't bother

Great story bro.

Hills were taken to court over a similar matter and had to settle for not a small amount,

Interesting RR, as they have a shop rule which attempts to cover them for such. I'm sure they've got photos of me.

Since when has it been a crime to take a photo of someone? Would be interested to see a link to a statute.

Since when has it been a crime to take a photo of someone?

Have you not heard of Yewtree? Oh, you mean adults in betting shops. It would be interesting if someone were to sue for libel, on the grounds that a blurred ex-cctv photo makes you look like an armed robber or some such.

You can't take an image of someone and then circulate it around a business as an attachment to an email stating.             ' conditions'  I.e don't take bets off this person ? That's a strict contravention of privacy laws.

I know casinos do it legally for card counters and as private premises they are entitled to do so, but the law regarding bookies is different I would have thought. Grouping me in with slow counters etc seems a bit extreme just for having the nerve to back a winner with them. I wonder if the BBC would be interested in this for their documentary planned for next spring? (featuring Coral)...i.e. if you're not in here to pump the fobt you can **** off

perhaps the manager just  wanted your photo  to put over his mantlepiece to keep his kids away from the fire

Solicitor will charge you £250 an hour

A bookmakers is not a public place and their solicitors would have made them aware if their use of cctv was actionable under the DPA.

Solicitor will do it 'no win no fee' and reckons it could go somewhere under human rights legislation. -

You might have a case if they are not using your best side...!

THEVE GOT ONE OF ME BUT IVE DRAWN A MOUSTACHE AND A PAIR OF GLASSES ON IT SO THEY CANT RECONISE ME

do wah..cork

CCTV is used on all of our premises. You agree that by entering onto these premises your image may be captured and used for training purposes or disclosed to third parties insofar as Coral has legitimate concerns about the security of the premises, (or items or cash on the premises), adherence by customers with these terms and conditions, and the safety of customers and staff using the premises.

from corals shop rules, should be on display in all shops as part of shop rules, should also have signs saying cctv in operation, the line aherence by customers with these t&cs refers to all the otehr rules which they can hide behind as reasons for taking/circulating pictures

you have a legal claim to see whatever they are holding and by law they must disclose within 40 days, although they may also legally charge you a tenner for the privilage

Which of the above reasons would apply to OP ?

For training purposes.? 

Eg. This is a man, he's entered the shop, he probably wants to place a bet. Be wary , he may win some money.

whatever next... Banks taking your photo and putting them up behind the counter because you dare to shop around for the best interest rate

I don't think they could hide behind the "training purposes" line, so they are basically calling you a criminal as they have concerns about security on the premises because of you. Go to the ICO website and get a template letter and send to Corals asking for everything they hold on you, including emails, internal emails, attachments, anything with your name on, anything that is about you but is referenced as another name/number/information about any images of yourself etc. Send a tenner with the letter and get it sent by recorded delivery. Worth a tenner just to have them running around getting all the data they have on you imo....

If they hold any information back they are breaking the law, so if you have proof that they hold something on you and don't send it fire a complaint into the ICO.

the question initially was about can they hold an image and the answer is yes providing they have signs & rules up on display for customers, visit the store and check that they are displaying the relevant signs


the question of what they can use that data for, in relation to managing their business, protecting their profit, customers, staff etc is another issue, but if they have rules on display then you're also challenging the legality of their t&cs and i'd imagine that's already been tested and their must be a precedent out there already

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http://www.coral.co.uk/shop-terms-and-conditions

that's the full shop rules link, you'd have to check that it is the current version

"for training purposes look at the cctv image of this individual taken in one of our shops and tell me how you could interest him in our other products."

HILLS HAD A CAMERA IN THE KHAZI THEYVE GOT MY PHOTO OF ME WITH ME STRIDES DOWN READING THE POST .....WOULDNT MIND BUT ON THE WALL IT SAID ..."SKINTO WAS HERE"....I THOUGHT IS THERE NO ESCAPE

In many instances the public get the impression that the BIG company knows the law,and act correctly.Having taken big companies to court(nothing to do with betting),and won,I can safely say that it isn't correct assumption.

You beat me to it, unbiased.

It's also worth keeping in mind that the standard of staff in the shops is patchy, to say the least.

The firms pay peanuts and provide virtually no training. Some staff are good as gold, but some are feeding dog food to the mentally ill. A lot of them simply cannot be trusted with photos and other confidential information.

In any event, how f***ed up has the bookmaking industry become when customers are treated like criminals for just trying to get a bet on at the best price?

Very well said,Blackwater.

anyone from joes on here care to comment??

under the freedom of information act if you right to then they must tell you by law if they have any records on you or photos

Aug 20, 2014 -- 9:51AM, dr . atkins wrote:

under the freedom of information act if you right to then they must tell you by law if they have any records on you or photos

A private company has no requirements under the FOI act.

tell billys that because i got all the information they had on me when i went down them lines

data protection more likely, FOI applies to public services only?

Cashless - Where you been?  Not stuck in Hills Khazi I hope all this time

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