Price wise 2014 - the sad truth

Even sadder is the fact that you  lament not being able to copy someone else's work and get paid for it.

Totally agree.Get off your soapbox and do your OWN work.

Yep !

next he will be posting about not getting on in the shops ...

I built a pile of bricks like that Damien Hirst, still haven't had an offer on it, I'm fuming.

Only takes a couple of decent priced winners

Actually Like someone else said... it was quite a shock when he made a comment on only being allowed 15p to place a bet in an antepost race or something vaguely like that...

I thought - thats refreshing finally someone raising the 'well known' issue...

But yeah - could easily sound like a man who has given his notice in!

It beats me how people don't realise that most people back horses for the interest and/or making money. They will do that by following form or waching the markets or following tipsters or other methods I can't think of at moment. All three specific methods mentioned can achieve the aim, there is no moral high ground - whatever works for you.

BTW I've used all three methods, form following was the most rewarding on both interest and money measurement (but got bored with time requirement) and tipsters was least rewarding on both measurements.

No brainer because Seagull is expected to only advise specific races and Goodwood has been almost disasterous. Seems to me hopes they will win more than sound usual well thought out. Two big Galway heats were shockers.

In the City a star fund manager such as Neil Woodford  gets acclaim and investors have done very well following him. Why do PW followers (which I am not one) get slagged off for following him and not making their own selections?

Good point Manoleeds.

Because in this game we are all super judges of form and markets and we dont need no help of anyone because we are super punters all of us.

Been in the game all my life and i still take in as much info as i can ever day seagull included.

good points from the last 3or 4 posts.......while it is satisfying to do your own form selection and study some (me included find it hard to get into the mindset and concentration that years ago came naturaly ,nowadays what with distractions (missus,teenage kids everydaylife etc)just cannot consistently get into the right frame of mind for hours of study ,when 20 yeqrs ago I only had my prick to keep so to speak it was a lot easier to study without the distractions ,now all help is welcolme ,wish I could get the head back into gear ,might  self hypnosis a try

123 yaw back in the room foyles

what were his tips for the betfred mile today?

what were his tips in the betfred mile today?

our channel and red avenger 18s and 22s

Thanks TGDB, i'd already done red avenger last night at work ew and a bit ew on hughsies magic city.
Been on nights so just up and not been out for a RP, I dont follow him but it's always a right chew-on trying to get on if he picks one I fancy.

If you deduct the cost of buying the RP in your figures what's the P/L?

-10 points is nothing.  That's one winner and he could easily have turned a profit with variance on his side.  A lot of punters would bite your hand off for -10 points in August.

DOUBLE your stake now.

If a winnner is 'destined' to come just keep DOUBLING your stakes every bet, should be easy to get on in the shops, on here or on course at the advertised price

Even at SP he's got 9pts back today

I know he can get it back easy enough but just pointing out that he is having his worst year ever. I follow 15 tipsters at present and he is by far and away the worst so far this year.

Come on Tom stay with the RP.

Tipsters trouble   is with  tipsters  .. yes their good   but  when they go  public .. the bookies    run a mile  and close em down   . take John Gough  .. 1965 .. a top judge of form    top guy  had a phone service  .. did not   last very long .

heres one for you guys   1965  the average  wage  was £22  POUNDS  a week .. that's if you had a top  job ... me and a pal went in with   john gough.. never looked back   ok with that

zip,does ur psychiatrist know that ur on here after 4pm?

Following 15 tipsters siralex, who is the best?

Following 15 tipsters siralex, who is the best?


i'm guessing it must be Peter Naughton, the Frankel of tipsters

Foyles

self hypnosis is not a daft idea, in fact it is a key tool in my punting tool box

and it is not as difficult as it might seem

PM me if genuinely interested

Steamship - value horse tips is definitely the best but getting he prices is a nightmare. I have to run between 3 bookies at 5.30 every night trying to get on but it is well worth it.
To put it into perspective the main ones I follow this year to a 1 point win level stake are +152, +154, -10, +94, +97 and +55. Those are the ones  based on jan to July figures at advertised prices.

Siralex, are there any profitable services you follow where the advertised price does not get slashed within a few minutes?
Where it is not virtually impossible to get a decent bet on?
Or is this wishful thinking?
PM me if you wish.
Thanks.

Hi sowersby - out of my bigger bets which i do which covers 7 tipsters, only 1 doesnt really move the market. This is betwhatibet. They are a subscription service and normally only bet at the weekend but have made a profit on 6 of the 7 months this year so far.

Thanks for the reply, appreciated.

Why did he put those donks up when everybody was telling him Intrinsic? Doesn't make sense or money?

FINNISH

Siralex, Is Peter Naughton one of those in your portfolio?  The way he does his advertising makes him look brilliant to say the least.

liberator 

theres only 1 tipster worth following...

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No tattcorner, definitely not!

WHY DO YOU PAY FOR TIPS SIRALEX?
SURELY THEY ARE MAINLY SHORT PRICE FAVS/2ND FAVS?

Siralex check your private messages

Thanks, will do fixedodds

Breedingmad
     01 Aug 14 12:49   


If you deduct the cost of buying the RP in your figures what's the P/L?


£860 a year for the paper..

zipper i remember john gough ;seem to recall they made a television programme about him.....interested to read that he was profitable to follow...any idea what happened to him

posy yep they did  the bbc made a doc  called last of the big punters  you can look it up
re  were he is now   don't know but he will be getting on  cause iam 70  and when they made that doc  1966  or something like that  he was a lot older than me .

Siralex
  Which betting shops take bets at early prices ( available online)for a race the day after.Tried Corals and Hills shops and told that although prices available online they aren't available in shop until the morning of the day of the race, except races they were already doing an Ante post book on,
   Thanks