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IDKW
01 Jul 14 09:38
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Once again, everyone's favourite PROPUNTER bemoans his bad luck in this weeks RFO column, and ends with informing us all that this is "a tough old game"

Really?

Sitting in the comfort of your armchair, having the pick of the prices as early as the evening before, able to bet with any of the big bookies at seemingly unrestricted stakes, and to do all of this with the ease of a telephone call......safe in the knowledge that if you lose at least you've got the salary at the end of the month to pay the bills.......................................................
that makes this a tough old game?

No, going through tomorrows racing, seeing a standout 10/1 about something you have in at 4/1 but your're unable to do anything about it. Get up in the morning, the 10/1 is gone, but a couple still have him in at 7's, but still you're unable to do anything about it ( there's £6 available at 7.6 on BF ). The shops open at 8.30am, but you know there's no point as you'll not get any more than £25 that early on. It's 10am, he's now 11/2 best price.....that's still fair enough......drive around the shops trying for a Ton in each........referred to traders........"give him £50"......." give him £25".....you've managed to get on for £350 at an average of 5/1 ( trading at 6 on bf now with £25 available ). Back home at 1pm and settle down to the day's racing.  Horse runs at 2.30pm and is best price 9/2 now with £42 available at 5.3 on bf.

10 mins before the off, he's 4.6 on bf ( £75 available ) and 7/2 with the books............no value there then. Horse runs well but finishes a poorly ridden 3rd. Fu** it....on to tomorrow....................and go through this Sh1t all again.

No comfort of a cosy little cheque at the end of the month for penning a few sloppy articles for the industry rag. only just ahead on the year so far but surely the luck's gotta change soon Scared

No Birchy, that's what makes this " A TOUGH OLD GAME "

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By:
THE-GHOST-OF-DICKIE-BIRD
When: 01 Jul 14 10:10
Great truey awesome postHappy
By:
private bob
When: 01 Jul 14 10:23
how does he keep his job,i wonder ?
By:
millhouse
When: 01 Jul 14 12:38
IKDW - if you are someone whose job, unequivocally, is to seek the truth and report it, and you know that the firms you are betting with are discriminating against your readers in the most obscene and unfair manner, and yet you say nothing about it as long as you are not subject to the same treatment, then you are corrupt, aren't you..?
By:
parispike
When: 01 Jul 14 12:39
There are several other descriptive words I'd use millhouse.....
By:
hong kong fooey
When: 01 Jul 14 12:51
I agree with millhouse. All these so called tv pundits
are axactly the same.
Only Mellish and Hislop had a brief encounter on the subject.
Then it was brushed straight under the carpet.
Anybody who shows a semblance of racing knowledge, will
have restrictions applied in weeks
By:
parispike
When: 01 Jul 14 13:18
^^^

except journalists of course, the irony being that their raison d'etre is to expose such shoddy practices....
By:
The Pinhooker
When: 01 Jul 14 14:04
Everyone dances to the Big Four's tune, otherwise you are dead in the water. Ask Paul Haigh and a handful of other journalists who, over the years, thought they'd  come up with material other than the "nice horse, should run well" quotes we are fed  daily in print and on television.No wonder  readers and viewers are turning their backs  on  horse racing these days
By:
onlooker
When: 01 Jul 14 14:14
IDKW    - Your Opening Post is SPOT ON

'Poor old Birchy' should be made to read it every night before he goes off into his other Dreamworld.

As should the incompetent who saw fit to employ him - and continues to do so, despite his, or rather both, their failings.

Birch must 'have something on him' - for this farce to continue.
By:
Stake & Chips
When: 01 Jul 14 14:17
Great post,IDKW...
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 01 Jul 14 14:29
Why do people buy these publications and subscribe to racing channels if they can't abide the columnists and presenters?

Why support them at all if they only whitewash over the cracks?
By:
parispike
When: 01 Jul 14 14:33
I buy the Rancid Post when I go racing because even at an outrageous price it's cheaper than a race card.

Nothing would entice me to buy it otherwise.
By:
The Pinhooker
When: 01 Jul 14 14:50
Dr. Crippen. The figures suggest that publications/TV  organisations  have either a stagnant or falling customer base.  For example, why spend around £750 per year for a daily racing paper when the content is so bland? 

Those who continue to do so are either grasping at straws in the forlorn hope of making the game pay or have plenty  of income at their disposal.

The bottom line is that punters have a better chance of making a few quid if they work things out for themselves. But as this takes much time and hard work, some people opt for the opinions of so called I media  "experts".
By:
jmdc
When: 01 Jul 14 15:17
According to Mottershead the other day, Birch sits at home in his armchair in the Isle Of Wight all day long and does everything over the phone.  No exes at all - that's how he can afford to have grands on!
By:
onlooker
When: 01 Jul 14 15:21
^ "his armchair in the Isle Of Wight"

They should give him a free pass to Parkhurst, then -

Many of his selections being criminal.
By:
Thin and Crispy
When: 01 Jul 14 15:22
The only way to get a racing media that doesn't dance to the bookies tune is to remove the bookies from the equation ie a Tote monopoly.
By:
The Pinhooker
When: 01 Jul 14 15:49
Even The Tote had its moments. Anybody recall the infamous  "Carlisle ****-Up" case?
By:
parispike
When: 01 Jul 14 16:25
McCriricks finest moment. Not much competition mind
By:
tips
When: 01 Jul 14 16:28
dont buy the racing post for years but birchy was one of the reason I did buy it as his pieces were hilarious
By:
slickster
When: 01 Jul 14 16:47
Agree. The guy is totally clueless but pure comedy gold.
By:
The Pinhooker
When: 01 Jul 14 16:49
Prefer Les Dawson!
By:
Gerbs
When: 01 Jul 14 18:10
jmdc 01 Jul 14 15:17 
According to Mottershead the other day, Birch sits at home in his armchair in the Isle Of Wight all day long and does everything over the phone.  No exes at all - that's how he can afford to have grands on!

i seen that last week
he also said hes a good judge
By:
onlooker
When: 01 Jul 14 18:15
But is Mottershead, "a good judge," - to decide who is, "a good judge," though?
By:
IDKW
When: 01 Jul 14 18:49
The Racing media is awash with these spineless sycophants who are in it only to gain personal advantage, be it media work for the bookies, or the promise of advantageous prices.

There is NOT ONE of the current crop who i could say acts with any integrity.

By the way, anyone got this muppet Birchy's tips for today?
By:
hong kong fooey
When: 01 Jul 14 19:00
If mottershead is a good judge,i should
pack the game in
By:
liberator of the oppressed
When: 01 Jul 14 19:32
IDKW best post for long long time. Will Birchy show us his bets I wonder .....
By:
WFT
When: 01 Jul 14 19:39
He's just napped a 11/1 winner !!

Surprised
By:
WFT
When: 01 Jul 14 19:39
He's just napped a 11/1 winner !!

Surprised
By:
Gerbs
When: 01 Jul 14 19:43
Laugh
By:
Gerbs
When: 01 Jul 14 19:43
even a blind squirrel
By:
The Pinhooker
When: 01 Jul 14 19:46
IIDKW. The current generation of racing journalists have little option if they wish to continue in gainful employment.

Unfortunately, there is always the spectre of Paul Haigh lurking in the background.,

It would be interesting to know what you would do in a similar situation?
By:
Barton Bank
When: 01 Jul 14 20:56
If you are not either a habitual losing punter or a member of the racing media you will find that early prices are barred to you to any kind of stake. In fact once your stakes get to a certain level, it is essentially SP bets only placed on betfair within a couple of minutes of the off at any other meeting than the top festivals.
By:
DancingDenman
When: 01 Jul 14 21:03
What 11s poke has he napped. He's nearly killed one in the 8.40.
By:
onlooker
When: 01 Jul 14 21:08
Presumably ...


GALLEY SLAVE had previously gone 49 races without success.
------------

Astute selection .... or lucky guess -

The choice is yours.
By:
hong kong fooey
When: 01 Jul 14 21:28
Barton Bank is spot on
So we have a situation, where.the youngsters are
not interested in racing.Anyone who after serving
their apprenticeship,then starts to hold his own
or dare show a profit is restricted The final nails
are going in racings coffin
What are all these pundits/journalists going to do when the
punters dry up
By:
IDKW
When: 01 Jul 14 22:23
The Pinhooker     01 Jul 14 19:46
 
IIDKW. The current generation of racing journalists have little option if they wish to continue in gainful employment.

Unfortunately, there is always the spectre of Paul Haigh lurking in the background.,

It would be interesting to know what you would do in a similar situation?


What would I do?

Well, I come at it strictly as a full time, no nonsense, Punter.
If I were fortunate enough to find myself aboard the gravy train, (a la Birchy, Mellish, Cunningham, Freemantle, Nevison et al, all of whom claim to be, or have been, full time punters ) I would have no qualms in slagging off the filth at every opportunity, and certainly wouldn't stand by whilst the likes of Jiwani, Williams, Clare, and the rest recall fictional sums wagered with them.

What would I have to lose?
I've made the game pay for 12yrs+ ( although I'm struggling this year) and so I've no need to prostitute my silence. If only one of these Jellyfish would do likewise Angry
By:
unitedbiscuits
When: 01 Jul 14 23:23
The reality is that anyone with unrestricted accounts could have made the game pay in the last twelve years.
By:
Barton Bank
When: 01 Jul 14 23:24
Bang on hkf. I am glad I am not starting from scratch now. Even a decade ago you used to be able to take a bookmaker for a decent amount of cash before they started restricting you to pennies. The big bookmakers are effectively just parasites living off mug punters and compulsive gamblers in the main. The governement will not force them to take bets from all and sundry because they want the revenue from their risk-free profit.
By:
hornshoe1
When: 02 Jul 14 00:23
onlooker 01 Jul 14 21:08 Presumably ...GALLEY SLAVE

As DD implied,not in the Rancid P. he didn't. (Don't get the RFO)
By:
Dr Gonzo
When: 02 Jul 14 00:29
Excellent post IDKW.

There are only two explanations for Birch being able to get on the sums he does/claims; 1) he loses vast sums of money to the bookmakers on a regular basis, or 2) he is afforded special treatment by the bookmakers due to his job in the racing media.

There is no other way it could occur.
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