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you need help , badly
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ok gok
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smartpunter, I`ll second that.
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I noticed on Twitter Channel 4 put that over the 16 months that they have never had so many tweets congratulating them on the programme. The first reply said "It's not April 1st"
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mr crisp. wrong way "round" gok ok.
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Was pants apart from Emma. Figures down down down.
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i thought it was good, they did their bit for the non serious punters and also had some decent coverage before the races.
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Quite right.
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The racing was magnificent, I really enjoyed the meeting.
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Have to say i thoroughly enjoyed the coverage, every race every day, just the right mix of serious racing information and some lovely fillies to look at in between and Gok just the right person to present the fashion, rather than that odious plonker who did it for the Beeb, made me want to smash the tele!
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I thought it was excellent, every race shown live (more of the same for Cheltenham please)... No switching channels halfway through....
All of the presenters did OK IMO (can't take to Cunningham) and that Gok Wan is probably the best of a Bad Bunch doing the Fashion Cr@p.... I don't agree that everyone looked "Gorgeous" but at least he presented it without all the Stuck Up, Pompous ar5e licking rubbish that we normally have to put up with... (Blonde Eve Bird, Francomes ex, silly Yank Bird and Sherwood from memory)... Well Done Channel 4 ![]() |
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did their bit for the non punter, cant the 2 of them speak for themselves,
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It's great that the show itself included every race LIVE but the coverage itself is an embarrassment...they've turned it into a fcukin' circus!
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where have all the punters gone?
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they all now lose their money on fobts before midday
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The punters have gone and are not coming back imo, people nowadays are too lazy to study form etc, they prefer to throw their wages away on fobts looking for a quick fortune, this country as encouraged laziness what with shows like Xfactor and BGT, giving youngsters a quick route to fame, nobody wants to earn it anymore. its sad but true.
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maybe there clever than you think and sussed long before the so called pro,s that studying form is a waste of time,
julian wilson,r hughes,and the 30 to 50, odd owners,trainers,jockeys banned for defrauding punters might have something to do with it |
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for the week 58% down on the beebs final ascot,well done keep it up
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If C4 racing was an American tv drama it would never get a second series.
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isn't it a UK tv drama?
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wow 56%
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Showing all races live is terrific.
The presentation , presenters and format though is dreadful. I record the programme & simply fast forward to the races. I cannot see horse racing being on terrestrial tv for much longer with the exceptions of Aintree , Epsom & Royal Ascot. |
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they are delusional as well as 'proud' of their coverage!
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Good point johnny. It's right up there with those 3.30am programmes with sign language. Though they probably get more viewers
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626 - fully agree squire...televising ALL races has been long overdue and should be applauded but turning it into the farce it's become is unforgivable.
Despite me being critical of many of the presenters and the format, it has it's good points and there are some positives though overall, it's an appalling show nowadays ![]() |
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a few pluses but fitzgerald, persad and cunningham lack of personality really drags the show down...how fitzgerald has a job as a regular on uk racing channels defies belief...
cunningham said after kingman won - will they consider stepping him up to 1m2f for which luck replied i don't think that will ever happen...this guy loves himself persad is just persad and has been shooting well above his weight for many years now...another miracle worker who has managed to land many top jobs in sport without ever showing it is a real shame for clare balding and nick luck that they are surrounded by these 3 people as between them they are 2 very good presenters gok wan has never been to ascot before this year - typical of channel 4 racing to put a novice in...the snob that was bbc was good value imo and at least had some charisma and pulled apart anyone that was dressed inappropriately tania and the irishman whose name defies me also drag the show down...tom does a good job and should be running an event like this...stephenson is a nice person but not for telly as no charisma apart from that pretty good ![]() |
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loads of fancied horses winning and the figures still down throughout the week not looking good is it
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must have been good before i lost the will to live there,d been 27 rides of the meeting,26 races of the week,11 interviews with stoute amounting to 17 words, and at the last count 53 runners in the king george, 47 of which will take in the eclipse on the way and 17 contenders to austraila,s crown,
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Tom Lee? ffs
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wasnt all bad at least ch 4 were almost certain high numbers were favoured on the straight course, ruk and lydia were convinced,
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I've said it before and here it comes again - if they must persist with GB (not my cup of tea) then PLEASE put him at one end or the other because when he's between other presenters his constant head turning is very offputting - surely the 'professionals' running the show can see this!
the various presenters assigned to betting from john parrot, Tanya, brian the Irishman and tom lee either have no charisma or no real knowledge of betting - which is fully in line with the programmes content |
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who do you prefer arfur? not much choice tbf
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betting on racing as dropped 50% in 10 years - hence viewers have dropped off accordingly.
where have all the punters/viewers gone - they re dead ,no one as replaced them as all new potential punters /viewers are sphyoned off by the bookies for the FOBTs,the tail not wagging the dog but eating the dog. c4 suffers from the richard briers effect. we were promised The good life but ended up with Ever decreasing circles. C4 need to team up more with the racing post(they all sit there with a copy in front of them)they need to teach punters how to read the form in the post,not interview harry herbert about breeding,like cricket does a batting class or a spin bowling lesson - C4 s growth viewers will and can only be punters - so they need to get them into studying form.explain the class system,the hcp system,different tracks and going affect preformance.they need to show the graffics in the same lay out as the post so punters can follow along - they need to teach a new audience how to bet on horses - this is the only place where new viewers can come from,plus racing dosent want casual viewers who just watch - they need them to bet or go racing for C4 to have in benefit to racing. |
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then come back on and explain why the horse with 6 duck eggs and backed from 20,s to 9 to 2 sluices up,
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I hate to say it but they need chapman viewers that are casual followers would love his love for the sport
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in racing you not only have to beat the commission but also the insiders, its possible but why would a newcomer choose a sport like that?
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maybe they should play them the phone call between dwyer and mulrenann, could make it the theme tune
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^ t!t
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They cant attract new viewers, its only us punters that want to watch, that will not change, and we are a limited number, the youngsters are not interested in horse racing, you get the youths betting on the football and that is it, as for what Ch4 can do to change the format, whatever they do, it will annoy some and please others, the fashion will always be a part of it, that is fine by me, I thought Gok done well, I can listen to Jim when he is on, he is good with his reading of races, the rest are at best very average, Tanya is awful, I mute most of the time, I want to watch the race, and not listen to them waffle on, I did not see the Interview with Claire and Mr Stoute, but im told she was good, he should be ashamed of himself, if he does not want to be interviewed, he should have informed them, it is brilliant they show every race, I went Tuesday and Wednesday and sat on my settee the rest of the week, it was heaven, I do fear for terrestrial tv coverage, there is just not the audience for it, what is worrying as well is our only paper being run by a man who sees fit to make Birchy his number One tipster
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