Thought I would have a go at one of these challenges and see what happens. Each day try the ultimate mug bet of the lucky15. Stake £10 a line.
Betfair offer double the odds one winner. Best odds guaranteed on runners. 10% bonus if all 4 win.
DAY ONE
17-Jun-14 13:00 Lucky 15 (x15) 17:20 Thirsk, 19:00 Brighton ... 70.35 Open -- 17:20 Thirsk Win - Head Space Best odds 4/1 -- Open -- 19:00 Brighton Win - Choral Festival Best odds 4/1 -- Open -- 20:30 Brighton Win - Darnathean Best odds 10/3 -- Open -- 20:40 Nottingham Win - Raskova Best odds 4/1 -- Open --
15:20 Kelso Imperial Vic 5.0 16:35 Kelso The Last Leg 8.0 20:15 Wolverhampton Star Anise 5.0 21:15 Wolverhampton Stanlow 4.5
max allowed 31p a line.
DAY 122LUCKY 15 £4.6515:20 KelsoImperial Vic 5.016:35 KelsoThe Last Leg 8.020:15 Wolverhampton Star Anise 5.021:15 WolverhamptonStanlow 4.5max allowed 31p a line.
16:00 Lingfield Rebecca Romero 9.0 16:30 Lingfield Upper Street 11.0 17:00 Lingfield Sequester 4.5 15:40 Exeter Court By Surprise 5.5
max allowed 25p a line.
DAY 124LUCKY 15 £3.7516:00 LingfieldRebecca Romero 9.016:30 LingfieldUpper Street 11.017:00 LingfieldSequester 4.515:40 ExeterCourt By Surprise 5.5max allowed 25p a line.
You could try phoning BF, I got my limit reset once by them. However, it was back in place within a week or so, and later told that I should be using the exchange instead
My sportsbook betting was all bad e/w races and selections where BF were top-price, so it was an obvious account to be limited, your experience may vary. In your case, it's clearly because of your big win, maybe that's something to make a fuss about as it's obviously a 'winners not welcome' kind of reaction.
You could try phoning BF, I got my limit reset once by them. However, it was back in place within a week or so, and later told that I should be using the exchange instead My sportsbook betting was all bad e/w races and selections where BF were top-pr
Thanks for the tips Mr Magoo. Its strange that after one 'big' win on a lucky 15 they limit the account. To get 4 winners at those odds has to be down to luck. It would happen once every two or three years.
Other firms still taking L15s. Seem happy to lay to lose £50k plus if all four come in. Only Betfred limited me zero after one l15 bet. They offer 3Xodds one winner but I dont know who can bet with them to get on.
Thanks for the tips Mr Magoo. Its strange that after one 'big' win on a lucky 15 they limit the account. To get 4 winners at those odds has to be down to luck. It would happen once every two or three years.Other firms still taking L15s. Seem happy to
Betfred limited my account pretty quickly, but strangely my account with the betfred-owned Totesport has been left untouched for a few years. They offer treble odds on lucky 15s too.
Betfred limited my account pretty quickly, but strangely my account with the betfred-owned Totesport has been left untouched for a few years. They offer treble odds on lucky 15s too.
You really should mail them and ask why you are now so heavily restricted on multiple bets. Depending on their response you should then look to use social and/or other media to let the world know what they do to 'lucky 15' winning punters i.e. post on their Facebook, twitter accts etc.
You really should mail them and ask why you are now so heavily restricted on multiple bets. Depending on their response you should then look to use social and/or other media to let the world know what they do to 'lucky 15' winning punters i.e. post o
^ Total Actual Stake £13,790.68 Total Actual Return £30,619.67 Total Profit/Loss £16,828.99
Not enough of a reason Big_Issue? The Lucky 15 is like any other bet, profitable for the bookies when played by mugs but not by someone who has a clue and Frog is clearly NOT a mug!
^Total Actual Stake £13,790.68 Total Actual Return £30,619.67 Total Profit/Loss £16,828.99 Not enough of a reason Big_Issue? The Lucky 15 is like any other bet, profitable for the bookies when played
15:40 Redcar Millkwood 2.25 15:50 Ayr Categorical 5.5 15:05 Galway Cloudy Rock 2.75 16:05 Galway Cassells Rock 3.75
max allowed 56p a line.
DAY 130LUCKY 15 £8.4015:40 RedcarMillkwood 2.2515:50 AyrCategorical 5.515:05 GalwayCloudy Rock 2.7516:05 GalwayCassells Rock 3.75max allowed 56p a line.
Perhaps you should do the bet with other layers,as suggested,and put the results on here.Would be great to see if other bookies take the bets to your full stakes and for how long.Mind you,don't expect the thread would be allowed to stay for long.
Perhaps you should do the bet with other layers,as suggested,and put the results on here.Would be great to see if other bookies take the bets to your full stakes and for how long.Mind you,don't expect the thread would be allowed to stay for long.
mirisoo, The numbers above show if I had got £150 a bet on +£22,753.69 would be the result. Restrictions have saved around £6k for the bookmaker.
nbdbscms, I think I have been extremely lucky with the results here so its hard to compare with another bookie. I tried with fred and cut to zero after one losing l15 bet. Happy to post hills selections.
mirisoo,The numbers above show if I had got £150 a bet on +£22,753.69 would be the result. Restrictions have saved around £6k for the bookmaker.nbdbscms,I think I have been extremely lucky with the results here so its hard to compare with another
Total Actual Stake £13,824.88 Total Actual Return £30,637.77 Total Profit/Loss £16,812.89
Mountains No Winners Yesterday Total Actual Stake £150.00 Total Actual Return £0.00 Total Profit/Loss -£150.00
BFS One winner yesterday Total Actual Stake £13,824.88Total Actual Return £30,637.77Total Profit/Loss £16,812.89 Mountains No Winners Yesterday Total Actual Stake £150.00Total Actual Re
Total Actual Stake £13,829.08 Total Actual Return £30,638.61 Total Profit/Loss £16,809.53
Mountains One Winner Yesterday
Total Actual Stake £300.00 Total Actual Return £30.00 Total Profit/Loss -£270.00
BFS One winner yesterday Total Actual Stake £13,829.08Total Actual Return £30,638.61Total Profit/Loss £16,809.53 Mountains One Winner Yesterday Total Actual Stake £300.00Total A
Total Actual Stake £13,835.98 Total Actual Return £30,641.83 Total Profit/Loss £16,805.85
Mountains One Winner Yesterday
Total Actual Stake £450.00 Total Actual Return £100.00 Total Profit/Loss -£350.00
BFS One winner yesterday Total Actual Stake £13,835.98Total Actual Return £30,641.83Total Profit/Loss £16,805.85 Mountains One Winner Yesterday Total Actual Stake £450.00Total A
Total Actual Stake £13,840.63 Total Actual Return £30,644.31 Total Profit/Loss £16,803.68
Mountains No Winners Yesterday
Total Actual Stake £600.00 Total Actual Return £100.00 Total Profit/Loss -£500.00
BFS One winner yesterday Total Actual Stake £13,840.63Total Actual Return £30,644.31Total Profit/Loss £16,803.68 Mountains No Winners Yesterday Total Actual Stake £600.00Total A
Total Actual Stake £13,846.93 Total Actual Return £30,658.91 Total Profit/Loss £16,811.98
Mountains One Winner Yesterday
Total Actual Stake £750.00 Total Actual Return £230.00 Total Profit/Loss -£520.00
BFS Two winners yesterday Total Actual Stake £13,846.93Total Actual Return £30,658.91Total Profit/Loss £16,811.98 Mountains One Winner Yesterday Total Actual Stake £750.00Total
Total Actual Stake £13,852.03 Total Actual Return £30,658.91 Total Profit/Loss £16,806.88
Mountains One Winner Yesterday
Total Actual Stake £900.00 Total Actual Return £320.00 Total Profit/Loss -£580.00
BFS No winners yesterday Total Actual Stake £13,852.03Total Actual Return £30,658.91Total Profit/Loss £16,806.88 Mountains One Winner Yesterday Total Actual Stake £900.00Total A
Total Actual Stake £13,859.53 Total Actual Return £30,658.91 Total Profit/Loss £16,799.38
Mountains No Winners Yesterday
Total Actual Stake £1,050.00 Total Actual Return £320.00 Total Profit/Loss -£730.00
BFS No winners yesterday Total Actual Stake £13,859.53Total Actual Return £30,658.91Total Profit/Loss £16,799.38 Mountains No Winners Yesterday Total Actual Stake £1,050.00Total
DAY 139 BFSLUCKY 15 £017:40 KemptonMelbourne Shuffle 6.015:40 WarwickFix It Right 4.516:10 WarwickLady of Lamaver 6.014:10 ChepstowQuick Decisson 5.0max allowed 0p a line. GAME OVERDAY 8 MountainsLUCKY 15 £150The Tourard Man @ Guaranteed Price (4.0
Total Actual Stake £13,859.53 Total Actual Return £30,658.91 Total Profit/Loss £16,799.38
Mountains No Winners Yesterday
Total Actual Stake £1,200.00 Total Actual Return £320.00 Total Profit/Loss -£880.00
BFS No winners yesterday (£0 stakes) Total Actual Stake £13,859.53Total Actual Return £30,658.91Total Profit/Loss £16,799.38 Mountains No Winners Yesterday Total Actual Stake £
Total Actual Stake £13,867.93 Total Actual Return £30,662.27 Total Profit/Loss £16,794.34
Mountains No Winners Yesterday
Total Actual Stake £1,350.00 Total Actual Return £320.00 Total Profit/Loss -£1,030.00
BFS One winner yesterday Total Actual Stake £13,867.93Total Actual Return £30,662.27Total Profit/Loss £16,794.34 Mountains No Winners Yesterday Total Actual Stake £1,350.00Total
Total Actual Stake £13,874.23 Total Actual Return £30,666.89 Total Profit/Loss £16,792.66
Mountains No Winners Yesterday
Total Actual Stake £1,500.00 Total Actual Return £320.00 Total Profit/Loss -£1,180.00
BFS One winner yesterday Total Actual Stake £13,874.23Total Actual Return £30,666.89Total Profit/Loss £16,792.66 Mountains No Winners Yesterday Total Actual Stake £1,500.00Total
Total Actual Stake £13,877.68 Total Actual Return £30,668.96 Total Profit/Loss £16,791.28
Mountains One Winner Yesterday
Total Actual Stake £1,650.00 Total Actual Return £370.00 Total Profit/Loss -£1,280.00
BFS One winner yesterday Total Actual Stake £13,877.68Total Actual Return £30,668.96Total Profit/Loss £16,791.28 Mountains One Winner Yesterday Total Actual Stake £1,650.00Total
Total Actual Stake £13,882.78 Total Actual Return £30,670.66 Total Profit/Loss £16,787.88
Mountains One Winner Yesterday
Total Actual Stake £1,800.00 Total Actual Return £434.00 Total Profit/Loss -£1,366.00
BFS One winner yesterday Total Actual Stake £13,882.78Total Actual Return £30,670.66Total Profit/Loss £16,787.88 Mountains One Winner Yesterday Total Actual Stake £1,800.00Total
Total Actual Stake £13,885.03 Total Actual Return £30,671.86 Total Profit/Loss £16,786.83
Mountains One Winner Yesterday
Total Actual Stake £1,950.00 Total Actual Return £749.00 Total Profit/Loss -£1,201.00
BFS One winner yesterday Total Actual Stake £13,885.03Total Actual Return £30,671.86Total Profit/Loss £16,786.83 Mountains One Winner Yesterday Total Actual Stake £1,950.00Total
Total Actual Stake £13,892.53 Total Actual Return £30,671.86 Total Profit/Loss £16,779.33
Mountains No Winners Yesterday
Total Actual Stake £2,100.00 Total Actual Return £749.00 Total Profit/Loss -£1,351.00
BFS No winners yesterday Total Actual Stake £13,892.53Total Actual Return £30,671.86Total Profit/Loss £16,779.33 Mountains No Winners Yesterday Total Actual Stake £2,100.00Total
13 Nov 2014 - 3:50 Southwell - Win Tip It Bedloe's Island @ 8.00 13 Nov 2014 - 3:30 Ludlow - Win Tip It Prince Pippin @ 5.00 13 Nov 2014 - 7:20 Kempton - Win Tip It Pour La Victoire @ 5.50 13 Nov 2014 - 7:50 Kempton - Win Tip It Flicksta @ 9.00
Allowed £10 a line.
DAY 146 BFSLUCKY 15 £6.9012:50 SouthwellIndian Tinker 6.515:50 SouthwellCaptain Dunne 4.015:30 LudlowAnnaluna 5.016:00 LudlowMr Kit Cat 3.5max allowed 46p a line.DAY 15 MountainsLUCKY 15 £15013 Nov 2014 - 3:50 Southwell - WinTip ItBedloe's Island @
Total Actual Stake £13,899.43 Total Actual Return £30,676.00 Total Profit/Loss £16,776.57
Mountains No Winners Yesterday
Total Actual Stake £2,150.00 Total Actual Return £749.00 Total Profit/Loss -£1,401.00
BFS One winner yesterday Total Actual Stake £13,899.43Total Actual Return £30,676.00Total Profit/Loss £16,776.57 Mountains No Winners Yesterday Total Actual Stake £2,150.00Total
10p a line is a disgrace, you really should expose this lily livered approach to accepting bets to the world of social media, embarrass them for what they are
10p a line is a disgrace, you really should expose this lily livered approach to accepting bets to the world of social media, embarrass them for what they are
Total Actual Stake £13,900.93 Total Actual Return £30,676.67 Total Profit/Loss £16,775.74
Mountains One Winner Yesterday
Total Actual Stake £2,300.00 Total Actual Return £859.00 Total Profit/Loss -£1,441.00
BFS One winner yesterday Total Actual Stake £13,900.93Total Actual Return £30,676.67Total Profit/Loss £16,775.74 Mountains One Winner Yesterday Total Actual Stake £2,300.00Total
15 Nov 2014 - 1:25 Lingfield - Win Tip It Alfred Hutchinson @ 5.00 15 Nov 2014 - 2:00 Lingfield - Win Tip It Seeking Magic @ 8.00 15 Nov 2014 - 3:45 Lingfield - Win Tip It Seaside Rock @ 9.00 15 Nov 2014 - 2:15 Uttoxeter - Win Tip It Nafaath @ 3.75
LUCKY 15 £150
Allowed £10 a line.
DAY 148 BFSLUCKY 15 £5.4013:30 WetherbySilver Dragon 6.514:00 LingfieldIntransigent 3.515:45 LingfieldSabre Rock 8.016:05 CheltenhamBitofapuzzle 5.0max allowed 36p a line.DAY 17 Mountains15 Nov 2014 - 1:25 Lingfield - WinTip ItAlfred Hutchinson @ 5.
Of course I am happy to pick the winners! I wish some other punters had followed the bets. Have to see if allowed 36p tomorrow. Was only 10p yesterday.
Of course I am happy to pick the winners! I wish some other punters had followed the bets. Have to see if allowed 36p tomorrow. Was only 10p yesterday.
Problem is now your vindication their system.........Somebody will probably be marching into their Boss office on Monday and telling their boss how much I saved Betfair by limiting the likes of Frog to penny stakes. After he won again on Saturday.
It be ignored the fact as well as the skill you need to pick the winners to get her a lucky 15. When you do TWO lucky 15s and get 4 winners out of the 8........You will need huge luck to put the 4 winners together.
Thats what you feel Betfair misses. Limit singles or whatever...... but doing it on the likes of a Lucky 15 even if you now managed to get 2 up in a few weeks.....your not putting restriction only on skilled punters now......... but also the LUCKY ONES.
CONGRADULATIONS again...... to get TWO lucky 15 up in a matter of weeks its just FANTASTICTIPPING.
Problem is now your vindication their system.........Somebody will probably be marching into their Boss office on Monday and telling their boss how much I saved Betfair by limiting the likes of Frog to penny stakes. After he won again on Saturday.It
Total Actual Stake £13,906.33 Total Actual Return £31,397.98 Total Profit/Loss £17,491.65
Mountains No Winners Yesterday
Total Actual Stake £2,450.00 Total Actual Return £859.00 Total Profit/Loss -£1,591.00
BFS all Four winners yesterday Total Actual Stake £13,906.33Total Actual Return £31,397.98Total Profit/Loss £17,491.65 Mountains No Winners Yesterday Total Actual Stake £2,450.0
16:00 Fontwell Zero Visibility 5.0 13:00 Cheltenham Howlongisafoot 7.0 13:35 Cheltenham Emerging Talent 2.37 15:50 Cheltenham Birch Hill 3.0
max allowed 52p a line.
DAY 18 Mountains
LUCKY 15 £150
16 Nov 2014 - 1:50 Fontwell - Win Tip It Amigo @ 6.50 16 Nov 2014 - 2:25 Fontwell - Win Tip It Spirit D'armor @ 6.00 16 Nov 2014 - 4:00 Fontwell - Win Tip It Zero Visibility @ 5.00 16 Nov 2014 - 1:35 Cheltenham - Win Tip It Emerging Talent @ 2.37
Allowed £10 a line.
DAY 149 BFSLUCKY 15 7.8016:00 FontwellZero Visibility 5.013:00 CheltenhamHowlongisafoot 7.013:35 CheltenhamEmerging Talent 2.3715:50 CheltenhamBirch Hill 3.0max allowed 52p a line.DAY 18 MountainsLUCKY 15 £15016 Nov 2014 - 1:50 Fontwell - WinTip ItA
Total Actual Stake £13,914.13 Total Actual Return £31,402.66 Total Profit/Loss £17,488.53
Mountains one winner Yesterday
Total Actual Stake £2,600.00 Total Actual Return £949.00 Total Profit/Loss -£1,651.00
BFS one winner yesterday Total Actual Stake £13,914.13Total Actual Return £31,402.66Total Profit/Loss £17,488.53 Mountains one winner Yesterday Total Actual Stake £2,600.00Total
13:45 Leicester Rossa Parks 4.5 14:30 Plumpton Midnight Lira 3.75 16:10 Wolverhampton Best Trip 3.75 17:40 Wolverhampton Wyoyo 13.0
max allowed 21p a line.
DAY 19 Mountains
LUCKY 15 £150
17 Nov 2014 - 1:45 Leicester - Win Tip It Rossa Parks @ 4.50 17 Nov 2014 - 3:00 Plumpton - Win Tip It La Madonnina @ 8.00 17 Nov 2014 - 3:30 Plumpton - Win Tip It Stow @ 9.00 17 Nov 2014 - 5:40 W'Hampton - Win Tip It Sioux Chieftain @ 3.25
Allowed £10 a line.
DAY 150 BFSLUCKY 15 £3.1513:45 LeicesterRossa Parks 4.514:30 PlumptonMidnight Lira 3.7516:10 WolverhamptonBest Trip 3.7517:40 WolverhamptonWyoyo 13.0max allowed 21p a line.DAY 19 MountainsLUCKY 15 £15017 Nov 2014 - 1:45 Leicester - WinTip ItRossa P
Total Actual Stake £13,917.28 Total Actual Return £31,402.66 Total Profit/Loss £17,485.38
Mountains no winners Yesterday
Total Actual Stake £2,750.00 Total Actual Return £949.00 Total Profit/Loss -£1,801.00
BFS no winners yesterday Total Actual Stake £13,917.28Total Actual Return £31,402.66Total Profit/Loss £17,485.38 Mountains no winners Yesterday Total Actual Stake £2,750.00Total
13:30 Lingfield Mon Cigar 3.5 14:00 Lingfield Amadeus Wolfe Tone 6.0 15:40 Warwick Hold Hands 13.0 16:25 Kempton Almaardiyah 5.0
max allowed 16p a line.
DAY 20 Mountains
LUCKY 15 £150
19 Nov 2014 - 1:30 Lingfield - Win Tip It Ghost Train @ 6.00 19 Nov 2014 - 3:00 Lingfield - Win Tip It Skidby Mill @ 5.50 19 Nov 2014 - 4:25 Kempton - Win Tip It Almaardiyah @ 5.00 19 Nov 2014 - 6:55 Kempton - Win Tip It Buckland @ 5.00
Allowed £10 a line.
DAY 151 BFSLUCKY 15 £2.4013:30 LingfieldMon Cigar 3.514:00 LingfieldAmadeus Wolfe Tone 6.015:40 WarwickHold Hands 13.016:25 KemptonAlmaardiyah 5.0max allowed 16p a line.DAY 20 MountainsLUCKY 15 £15019 Nov 2014 - 1:30 Lingfield - WinTip ItGhost Trai
Total Actual Stake £13,919.68 Total Actual Return £31,402.66 Total Profit/Loss £17,482.98
Mountains no winners Yesterday
Total Actual Stake £2,900.00 Total Actual Return £949.00 Total Profit/Loss -£1,951.00
BFS no winners yesterday Total Actual Stake £13,919.68Total Actual Return £31,402.66Total Profit/Loss £17,482.98 Mountains no winners Yesterday Total Actual Stake £2,900.00Total
20 Nov 2014 - 12:30 Market Rasen - Win Tip It Vivant Poeme @ 5.00 20 Nov 2014 - 1:00 Market Rasen - Win Tip It Viva Steve @ 3.25 20 Nov 2014 - 1:30 Market Rasen - Win Tip It Richmond @ 2.37 20 Nov 2014 - 2:40 Market Rasen - Win Tip It Phare Isle @ 7.00
Allowed £10 a line.
DAY 152 BFSLUCKY 15 £8.4013:00 Market RasenViva Steve 3.2514:15 ChepstowSteel Summit 4.013:20 WincantonPinkneys Prince 5.515:00 WincantonPressies Girl 4.5max allowed 56p a line.DAY 21 MountainsLUCKY 15 £15020 Nov 2014 - 12:30 Market Rasen - WinTip
Total Actual Stake £13,928.48 Total Actual Return £31,407.14 Total Profit/Loss £17,478.66
Mountains one winner Yesterday
Total Actual Stake £3,150.00 Total Actual Return £986.50 Total Profit/Loss -£2,163.50
BFS one winner yesterday Total Actual Stake £13,928.48Total Actual Return £31,407.14Total Profit/Loss £17,478.66 Mountains one winner Yesterday Total Actual Stake £3,150.00Total
Total Actual Stake £13,931.03 Total Actual Return £31,407.14 Total Profit/Loss £17,476.11
Mountains one winner Yesterday
Total Actual Stake £3,300.00 Total Actual Return £1,041.50 Total Profit/Loss -£2,258.50
BFS no winners yesterday Total Actual Stake £13,931.03Total Actual Return £31,407.14Total Profit/Loss £17,476.11 Mountains one winner Yesterday Total Actual Stake £3,300.00Total
First time on here for a while.Any reason for the sudden stop,hope all is well frog.Looked forward to catching up with your results.Took a while to find it!
First time on here for a while.Any reason for the sudden stop,hope all is well frog.Looked forward to catching up with your results.Took a while to find it!
I stopped posting because it seemed pointless to keep putting up the bets as Betfair were nolonger taking them. All it does is tip them off as to where the value is so they can change their prices.
For those interested Lucky 15s are a great bet if you are willing to wait for a payday and can pick value horses. They can the prices so wrong in the morning. If you fail to find value the margin is big in favour of the bookie. But if you find value 30% return on stakes is easily obtainable.
With the exception of Betfred most firms seem happy to take these bets.
I stopped posting because it seemed pointless to keep putting up the bets as Betfair were nolonger taking them. All it does is tip them off as to where the value is so they can change their prices.For those interested Lucky 15s are a great bet if you
I don't follow horses but fully understand the logic.It should have made some on here think of the potential of this type of bet.It is a pity there aren't more sensible topics on the forum these days.I am sure you will keep doing the Lucky 15s and continue to show a decent overall profit.If you do hit the jackpot any time it would be good to see the figures on here.Best of luck.
I don't follow horses but fully understand the logic.It should have made some on here think of the potential of this type of bet.It is a pity there aren't more sensible topics on the forum these days.I am sure you will keep doing the Lucky 15s and co
Great thread frog2 and well done with the profits to date.
Obviously value is key but do you have any specific form factors you focus on to find your selections?
Looks like most of them fall in the 3/1 to 10/1 price category....I guess playing the L15 bet you don't want to be too far away from the top of the market for selections...in this sort of multiple bet.
Great thread frog2 and well done with the profits to date. Obviously value is key but do you have any specific form factors you focus on to find your selections? Looks like most of them fall in the 3/1 to 10/1 price category....I guess playing the