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Thought I would have a go at one of these challenges and see what happens.
Each day try the ultimate mug bet of the lucky15. Stake £10 a line.

Betfair offer double the odds one winner.
Best odds guaranteed on runners.
10% bonus if all 4 win.

DAY ONE

17-Jun-14
13:00   
Lucky 15 (x15) 17:20 Thirsk, 19:00 Brighton ...
70.35
Open     --
17:20 Thirsk
Win - Head Space
Best odds
4/1    --     Open     --
19:00 Brighton
Win - Choral Festival
Best odds
4/1    --     Open     --
20:30 Brighton
Win - Darnathean
Best odds
10/3    --     Open     --
20:40 Nottingham
Win - Raskova
Best odds
4/1    --     Open     --

Max stake allowed £4.69 a line
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Report frog2 October 18, 2014 1:53 PM BST
It was lucky it was not as restricted at the time. Plenty of other firms still taking L15s.
Report frog2 October 18, 2014 2:01 PM BST
DAY 122

LUCKY 15 £4.65

15:20 Kelso
Imperial Vic 5.0
16:35 Kelso
The Last Leg 8.0
20:15 Wolverhampton
Star Anise 5.0
21:15 Wolverhampton
Stanlow 4.5

max allowed 31p a line.
Report frog2 October 19, 2014 2:11 PM BST
One winner yesterday                   
                   
Total Actual Stake         £13,768.93           
Total Actual Return         £30,585.19           
Total Profit/Loss         £16,816.26           
                   
Actual Racing Levy (@10.75%)             -£1,807.75       
                   
If the total stake of £10 a line (£150) had been accepted                   
                   
Total Asked For Stake             £18,380.00       
Total Asked For Return             £40,749.48       
Total Asked For Profit/Loss              £22,369.48       
                   
Asked For Racing Levy             -£2,404.72       
                   
Racing Industry so far up £596.97 due to bets caps.
Report frog2 October 19, 2014 2:16 PM BST
DAY 123

LUCKY 15 £4.20

15:05 Bath
Headline News 4.0
17:15 Bath
Be Seeing You 7.0
14:40 Naas
Ask Me Nicely 12.0
17:25 Naas
Lyrical Theatre 2.25

max allowed 28p a line.
Report gnashersblackpool October 19, 2014 2:22 PM BST
u made it to the 10% tAKE OUT CLUB.   next stage is the 0% takeout club, and not allowed bog and 'offers'
Report frog2 October 21, 2014 1:04 PM BST
No bets yesterday as testing to see if limits are restored if you leave it 24 hours.
Report frog2 October 21, 2014 1:12 PM BST
DAY 124

LUCKY 15 £3.75

16:00 Lingfield
Rebecca Romero 9.0
16:30 Lingfield
Upper Street 11.0
17:00 Lingfield
Sequester 4.5
15:40 Exeter
Court By Surprise 5.5

max allowed 25p a line.
Report frog2 October 21, 2014 1:12 PM BST
Limit is still very low. What is the best way to get the limit restored to sensible levels?
Report frog2 October 22, 2014 10:42 AM BST
Two winners yesterday (16/1 and 11/2)                   
                   
Total Actual Stake         £13,776.88           
Total Actual Return         £30,619.67           
Total Profit/Loss         £16,842.79           
                   
Actual Racing Levy (@10.75%)             -£1,810.60       
                   
If the total stake of £10 a line (£150) had been accepted                   
                   
Total Asked For Stake             £18,680.00       
Total Asked For Return             £42,124.48       
Total Asked For Profit/Loss              £23,444.48       
                   
Asked For Racing Levy             -£2,520.28       
                   
Racing Industry so far up £709.68 due to bets caps.
Report frog2 October 22, 2014 10:42 AM BST
Both drifted so BOG gave a nice return.
Report Mr Magoo October 22, 2014 12:41 PM BST
You could try phoning BF, I got my limit reset once by them. However, it was back in place within a week or so, and later told that I should be using the exchange instead Grin

My sportsbook betting was all bad e/w races and selections where BF were top-price, so it was an obvious account to be limited, your experience may vary. In your case, it's clearly because of your big win, maybe that's something to make a fuss about as it's obviously a 'winners not welcome' kind of reaction.
Report frog2 October 22, 2014 1:43 PM BST
DAY 125

LUCKY 15 £5.70

17:55 Kempton
Hidden Asset 4.0
18:55 Kempton
Global Force 6.0
19:55 Kempton
Stormbound 6.5
20:25 Kempton
Dutch Portrait 4.0

max allowed 38p a line.
Report frog2 October 22, 2014 1:49 PM BST
Thanks for the tips Mr Magoo. Its strange that after one 'big' win on a lucky 15 they limit the account. To get 4 winners at those odds has to be down to luck. It would happen once every two or three years.

Other firms still taking L15s. Seem happy to lay to lose £50k plus if all four come in. Only Betfred limited me zero after one l15 bet. They offer 3Xodds one winner but I dont know who can bet with them to get on.
Report Mr Magoo October 22, 2014 3:07 PM BST
Betfred limited my account pretty quickly, but strangely my account with the betfred-owned Totesport has been left untouched for a few years. They offer treble odds on lucky 15s too.
Report frog2 October 22, 2014 3:59 PM BST
Interesting. Thanks for the tip.
Report frog2 October 23, 2014 9:31 AM BST
No winners yesterday                   
                   
Total Actual Stake         £13,782.58           
Total Actual Return         £30,619.67           
Total Profit/Loss         £16,837.09           
                   
Actual Racing Levy (@10.75%)             -£1,809.99       
                   
If the total stake of £10 a line (£150) had been accepted                   
                   
Total Asked For Stake             £18,830.00       
Total Asked For Return             £42,124.48       
Total Asked For Profit/Loss              £23,294.48       
                   
Asked For Racing Levy             -£2,504.16       
                   
Racing Industry so far up £694.17 due to bets caps.
Report frog2 October 23, 2014 1:20 PM BST
DAY 126

LUCKY 15 £3.45

16:50 Ludlow
Top Benefit 12.0
16:00 Carlise
Cool Operator 7.5
17:40 Kempton
Jet Mate 7.0
19:10 Kempton
Lovely Memory 3.75

max allowed 23p a line.
Report Big_Issue October 23, 2014 2:36 PM BST
You really should mail them and ask why you are now so heavily restricted on multiple bets. Depending on their response you should then look to use social and/or other media to let the world know what they do to 'lucky 15' winning punters i.e. post on their Facebook, twitter accts etc.
Report frog2 October 24, 2014 7:05 AM BST
No winners yesterday                   
                   
Total Actual Stake         £13,786.03           
Total Actual Return         £30,619.67           
Total Profit/Loss         £16,833.64           
                   
Actual Racing Levy (@10.75%)             -£1,809.62       
                   
If the total stake of £10 a line (£150) had been accepted                   
                   
Total Asked For Stake             £18,980.00       
Total Asked For Return             £42,124.48       
Total Asked For Profit/Loss              £23,144.48       
                   
Asked For Racing Levy             -£2,488.03       
                   
Racing Industry so far up £678.42 due to bets caps.
Report frog2 October 24, 2014 2:56 PM BST
DAY 127

LUCKY 15 £4.65

16:05 Doncaster
Novirak 9.0
16:40 Doncaster
Raven Ridge 6.5
17:10 Doncaster
Ravens Tower 7.0
15:55 Newbury
Dame Lucy 5.5

max allowed 31p a line.
Report frog2 October 25, 2014 12:27 PM BST
No winners yesterday                   
                   
Total Actual Stake         £13,790.68           
Total Actual Return         £30,619.67           
Total Profit/Loss         £16,828.99           
                   
Actual Racing Levy (@10.75%)             -£1,809.12       
                   
If the total stake of £10 a line (£150) had been accepted                   
                   
Total Asked For Stake             £19,130.00       
Total Asked For Return             £42,124.48       
Total Asked For Profit/Loss              £22,994.48       
                   
Asked For Racing Levy             -£2,471.91       
                   
Racing Industry so far up £662.79 due to bets caps.
Report frog2 October 25, 2014 12:32 PM BST
DAY 128

LUCKY 15 £6.30

13:40 Doncaster
Reedcutter 7.0
16:25 Doncaster
Four Seasons 6.0
16:05 Newbury
Bellajeu 6.5
14:55 Chepstow
Tokyo Javilex 5.0

max allowed 42p a line.
Report Big_Issue October 25, 2014 1:17 PM BST
You got off your @rse and asked why the punitive restrictions Frog?
Report Aviboyd October 25, 2014 1:27 PM BST
^
Total Actual Stake         £13,790.68           
Total Actual Return         £30,619.67           
Total Profit/Loss         £16,828.99 


Not enough of a reason Big_Issue?  The Lucky 15 is like any other bet, profitable for the bookies when played by mugs but not by someone who has a clue and Frog is clearly NOT a mug!
Report frog2 October 26, 2014 12:23 PM GMT
No winners yesterday                   
                   
Total Actual Stake         £13,796.98           
Total Actual Return         £30,619.67           
Total Profit/Loss         £16,822.69           
                   
Actual Racing Levy (@10.75%)             -£1,808.44       
                   
If the total stake of £10 a line (£150) had been accepted                   
                   
Total Asked For Stake             £19,280.00       
Total Asked For Return             £42,124.48       
Total Asked For Profit/Loss              £22,844.48       
                   
Asked For Racing Levy             -£2,455.78       
                   
Racing Industry so far up £647.34 due to bets caps.
Report frog2 October 26, 2014 12:29 PM GMT
DAY 129

LUCKY 15 £6.30

14:40 Aintree
Dunowen Point 6.5
15:50 Aintree
Benefit Cut 7.0
13:15 Wincanton
Storm of Swords 5.0
14:20 Wincanton
Vesperal Dream 3.0

max allowed 42p a line.
Report frog2 October 27, 2014 10:43 AM GMT
One winner yesterday                   
                   
Total Actual Stake         £13,803.28           
Total Actual Return         £30,621.77           
Total Profit/Loss         £16,818.49           
                   
Actual Racing Levy (@10.75%)             -£1,807.99       
                   
If the total stake of £10 a line (£150) had been accepted                   
                   
Total Asked For Stake             £19,430.00       
Total Asked For Return             £42,174.48       
Total Asked For Profit/Loss              £22,744.48       
                   
Asked For Racing Levy             -£2,445.03       
                   
Racing Industry so far up £637.04 due to bets caps.
Report frog2 October 27, 2014 2:36 PM GMT
DAY 130

LUCKY 15 £8.40

15:40 Redcar
Millkwood 2.25
15:50 Ayr
Categorical 5.5
15:05 Galway
Cloudy Rock 2.75
16:05 Galway
Cassells Rock 3.75

max allowed 56p a line.
Report frog2 October 28, 2014 9:19 AM GMT
Two winners yesterday                   
                   
Total Actual Stake         £13,811.68           
Total Actual Return         £30,628.77           
Total Profit/Loss         £16,817.09           
                   
Actual Racing Levy (@10.75%)             -£1,807.84       
                   
If the total stake of £10 a line (£150) had been accepted                   
                   
Total Asked For Stake             £19,580.00       
Total Asked For Return             £42,299.48       
Total Asked For Profit/Loss              £22,719.48       
                   
Asked For Racing Levy             -£2,442.34       
                   
Racing Industry so far up £634.51 due to bets caps.
Report frog2 October 28, 2014 2:01 PM GMT
DAY 131

LUCKY 15 £5.70

19:10 Wolverhampton
Lamubaaly 6.0
15:20 Catterick
Iron Butterfly 7.0
15:30 Windsor
Dalgig 6.0
14:40 Ffos Las
Area Access 6.0

max allowed 38p a line.
Report mirisoo October 28, 2014 2:17 PM GMT
What would your return have been had you been able to do £10 as advertised?
Report sugarfoot October 28, 2014 2:34 PM GMT
If the total stake of £10 a line (£150) had been accepted

it's there in black and white
Report nbdbscms October 28, 2014 6:22 PM GMT
Perhaps you should do the bet with other layers,as suggested,and put the results on here.Would be great to see if other bookies take the bets to your full stakes and for how long.Mind you,don't expect the thread would be allowed to stay for long.
Report frog2 October 29, 2014 8:51 AM GMT
No winners yesterday                   
                   
Total Actual Stake         £13,817.38           
Total Actual Return         £30,635.77           
Total Profit/Loss         £16,818.39           
                   
Actual Racing Levy (@10.75%)             -£1,807.98       
                   
If the total stake of £10 a line (£150) had been accepted                   
                   
Total Asked For Stake             £19,730.00       
Total Asked For Return             £42,483.69       
Total Asked For Profit/Loss              £22,753.69       
                   
Asked For Racing Levy             -£2,446.02       
                   
Racing Industry so far up £638.04 due to bets caps.
Report frog2 October 29, 2014 8:59 AM GMT
mirisoo,
The numbers above show if I had got £150 a bet on +£22,753.69 would be the result. Restrictions have saved around £6k for the bookmaker.

nbdbscms,
I think I have been extremely lucky with the results here so its hard to compare with another bookie. I tried with fred and cut to zero after one losing l15 bet. Happy to post hills selections.
Report frog2 October 29, 2014 11:47 AM GMT
DAY 132 BFS

LUCKY 15 £7.50

16:00 Nottingham
Nabatean 2.5
13:40 Taunton
Spanish Fork 6.0
14:10 Taunton
Book of Excuses 5.0
15:40 Taunton
Royal Etiquette

max allowed 50p a line.


DAY 1 Mountains

LUCKY 15 £150

1:20 Worcester - Win
Dunlough Bay @ 4.33
2:10 Taunton - Win
Book Of Excuses @ 5.00
4:10 Taunton - Win
Trakeur @ 6.00
2:50 Worcester - Win
Bulfin Island @ 4.50

Allowed £10 a line.
Report frog2 October 30, 2014 12:25 PM GMT
BFS One winner yesterday       
       
Total Actual Stake         £13,824.88
Total Actual Return         £30,637.77
Total Profit/Loss         £16,812.89
       
Mountains No Winners Yesterday       
Total Actual Stake         £150.00
Total Actual Return         £0.00
Total Profit/Loss         -£150.00
Report frog2 October 30, 2014 3:35 PM GMT
DAY 133 BFS

LUCKY 15 £4.20

16:30 Kempton
New Colours 2.0
17:30 Kempton
Counter Ridge 10.0
18:00 Kempton
Muradif 9.0
18:30 Kempton
Tigers Tale 9.0

max allowed 29p a line.


DAY 2 Mountains

LUCKY 15 £150

4:30 Kempton
New Colours @ 2.00
8:00 Kempton
Black Truffle @ 10.00
7:00 Kempton
Flumps @ 13.00
4:10 Stratford
Little Cake @ 15.00

Allowed £10 a line.
Report frog2 October 31, 2014 9:46 AM GMT
BFS One winner yesterday       
       
Total Actual Stake         £13,829.08
Total Actual Return         £30,638.61
Total Profit/Loss         £16,809.53
       
Mountains One Winner Yesterday       
       
Total Actual Stake         £300.00
Total Actual Return         £30.00
Total Profit/Loss         -£270.00
Report frog2 October 31, 2014 4:04 PM GMT
DAY 134 BFS

LUCKY 15 £6.90

17:55 Wolverhampton
Lightscameraction 3.75
18:25 Wolverhampton
Black Iceman 6.5
18:10 Dundalk
Bubbly Belini 5.0
18:55 Wolverhampton
Goring 3.5

max allowed 48p a line.

DAY 3 Mountains

LUCKY 15 £150

17:55 Wolverhampton
Lightscameraction 3.75
18:25 Wolverhampton
Black Iceman 6.5
18:10 Dundalk
Bubbly Belini 5.0
18:55 Wolverhampton
Goring 3.75

Allowed £10 a line.
Report frog2 November 1, 2014 10:31 AM GMT
BFS One winner yesterday       
       
Total Actual Stake         £13,835.98
Total Actual Return         £30,641.83
Total Profit/Loss         £16,805.85
       
Mountains One Winner Yesterday       
       
Total Actual Stake         £450.00
Total Actual Return         £100.00
Total Profit/Loss         -£350.00
Report frog2 November 1, 2014 12:19 PM GMT
DAY 135 BFS

LUCKY 15 £4.65

13:25 Newmarket
Sagaciously 9.0
12:55 Wetherby
Chieftain's Choice 5.5
14:40 Wetherby
Cole Harden 4.5
13:05 Ayr
Jenny Melody 3.25

max allowed 31p a line.

DAY 4 Mountains

LUCKY 15 £150

01 Nov 2014 - 1:05 Ayr
Bobs Lady Tamure @ 6.50
01 Nov 2014 - 2:15 Ayr
Wellforth @ 8.50
01 Nov 2014 - 4:00 Ayr
Lord Wishes @ 5.00
01 Nov 2014 - 3:45 Newmarket
Showboating @ 6.00

Allowed £10 a line.
Report frog2 November 2, 2014 12:14 PM GMT
BFS One winner yesterday       
       
Total Actual Stake         £13,840.63
Total Actual Return         £30,644.31
Total Profit/Loss         £16,803.68
       
Mountains No Winners Yesterday       
       
Total Actual Stake         £600.00
Total Actual Return         £100.00
Total Profit/Loss         -£500.00
Report frog2 November 2, 2014 12:30 PM GMT
DAY 136 BFS

LUCKY 15 £6.30

14:20 Huntingdon
To The Sky 5.0
14:05 Carlisle
Spanish Fleet 5.5
14:35 Carlisle
Ballypatrick 7.0
15:45 Carlisle
Many Clouds 4.5

max allowed 42p a line.

DAY 5 Mountains

LUCKY 15 £150

2:20 Huntingdon
Shady Lane @ 6.00
1:30 Carlisle
Big Water @ 7.00
1:40 Cork
Thekingofconnemara @ 6.50
2:45 Cork
The Crafty Butcher @ 8.50

Allowed £10 a line.
Report frog2 November 3, 2014 9:22 AM GMT
BFS Two winners yesterday       
       
Total Actual Stake         £13,846.93
Total Actual Return         £30,658.91
Total Profit/Loss         £16,811.98
       
Mountains One Winner Yesterday       
       
Total Actual Stake         £750.00
Total Actual Return         £230.00
Total Profit/Loss         -£520.00
Report frog2 November 4, 2014 9:43 AM GMT
BFS No winners yesterday       
       
Total Actual Stake         £13,852.03
Total Actual Return         £30,658.91
Total Profit/Loss         £16,806.88
       
Mountains One Winner Yesterday       
       
Total Actual Stake         £900.00
Total Actual Return         £320.00
Total Profit/Loss         -£580.00
Report frog2 November 4, 2014 9:44 AM GMT
Above should be day 137 and day 6.
Report frog2 November 4, 2014 11:05 AM GMT
DAY 138 BFS

LUCKY 15 £7.50

13:40 Southwell
Arabian Flight 6.0
15:10 Southwell
Arabian Revolution 4.5
17:40 Kempton
Stormbound 5.5
13:10 Southwell
Vied 3.5

max allowed 50p a line.

DAY 7 Mountains

LUCKY 15 £150

1:40 Southwell - Win
Arabian Flight @ 6.00
2:10 Southwell - Win
Invincible Wish @ 7.00
3:10 Southwell - Win
Cousin Khee @ 2.75
3:15 Exeter - Win
Solstice Son @ 6.00

Allowed £10 a line.
Report frog2 November 5, 2014 10:26 AM GMT
BFS No winners yesterday       
       
Total Actual Stake         £13,859.53
Total Actual Return         £30,658.91
Total Profit/Loss         £16,799.38
       
Mountains No Winners Yesterday       
       
Total Actual Stake         £1,050.00
Total Actual Return         £320.00
Total Profit/Loss         -£730.00
Report frog2 November 5, 2014 12:18 PM GMT
DAY 139 BFS

LUCKY 15 £0

17:40 Kempton
Melbourne Shuffle 6.0
15:40 Warwick
Fix It Right 4.5
16:10 Warwick
Lady of Lamaver 6.0
14:10 Chepstow
Quick Decisson 5.0

max allowed 0p a line. GAME OVER

DAY 8 Mountains

LUCKY 15 £150

The Tourard Man @ Guaranteed Price (4.00)WinOpen

3:05 Warwick

Fix It Right @ Guaranteed Price (4.50)WinOpen

3:40 Warwick

Quick Decisson @ Guaranteed Price (5.00)WinOpen

2:10 Chepstow

Melbourne Shuffle @ Guaranteed Price (6.00)WinOpen

5:40 Kempton

Allowed £10 a line.
Report frog2 November 6, 2014 9:02 AM GMT
BFS No winners yesterday (£0 stakes)       
       
Total Actual Stake         £13,859.53
Total Actual Return         £30,658.91
Total Profit/Loss         £16,799.38
       
Mountains No Winners Yesterday       
       
Total Actual Stake         £1,200.00
Total Actual Return         £320.00
Total Profit/Loss         -£880.00
Report Mr Magoo November 6, 2014 10:19 AM GMT
0p max bet Laugh Someone at Betfair has really got it in for you!
Report frog2 November 6, 2014 11:23 AM GMT
Back in the game today. 56p a line taken at Betfair. Unfortunately hills have a technical issue taking multiples this morning.
Report frog2 November 6, 2014 11:26 AM GMT
DAY 139 BFS

LUCKY 15 £8.40

12:50 Fakenham
Mr Maynard 5.5
14:20 Fakenham
Trapper Peak 3.75
15:00 Musselburgh
Nexious 3.0
14:10 Towcester
Buddy Love 3.75

max allowed 56p a line.
Report frog2 November 6, 2014 1:55 PM GMT
DAY 9 Mountains

06 Nov 2014 - 4:35 W'Hampton - Win
Tip It

Nightlight @ 3.75

06 Nov 2014 - 7:10 W'Hampton - Win
Tip It

Ortac Rock @ 8.00

06 Nov 2014 - 3:00 Musselburgh - Win
Tip It

Pass Muster @ 5.50

06 Nov 2014 - 3:40 Towcester - Win
Tip It

Bill The Lad @ 8.00

Stake : £150.00 (£10.00 x 15)
Report frog2 November 7, 2014 7:36 AM GMT
BFS One winner yesterday       
       
Total Actual Stake         £13,867.93
Total Actual Return         £30,662.27
Total Profit/Loss         £16,794.34
       
Mountains No Winners Yesterday       
       
Total Actual Stake         £1,350.00
Total Actual Return         £320.00
Total Profit/Loss         -£1,030.00
Report frog2 November 7, 2014 12:36 PM GMT
DAY 141 BFS

LUCKY 15 £6.30

13:20 Hexham
One For Arthur 2.1
14:00 Musselburgh
First Fandango 5.5
15:00 Musselburgh
Broughton 4.5
16:00 Musselburgh
The Phanton Winger 5.5

max allowed 50p a line.

DAY 10 Mountains

LUCKY 15 £150

The Phantom Winger @ Guaranteed Price (5.50)WinOpen

4:00 Musselburgh

Pipers Note @ Guaranteed Price (6.50)WinOpen

6:10 W'Hampton

Pintrada @ Guaranteed Price (6.00)WinOpen

7:10 W'Hampton

Coolfighter @ Guaranteed Price (6.00)WinOpen

9:00 Dundalk

Allowed £10 a line.
Report frog2 November 8, 2014 11:10 AM GMT
BFS One winner yesterday       
       
Total Actual Stake         £13,874.23
Total Actual Return         £30,666.89
Total Profit/Loss         £16,792.66
       
Mountains No Winners Yesterday       
       
Total Actual Stake         £1,500.00
Total Actual Return         £320.00
Total Profit/Loss         -£1,180.00
Report frog2 November 9, 2014 10:55 AM GMT
DAY 142 BFS

LUCKY 15 £3.45

13:00 Ffos Las
Capilla 4.5
14:25 Navan
Days Hotel 3.75
15:20 Limerick
Hospital 6.5
15:50 Limerick
Daigreen 4.5

max allowed 23p a line.

DAY 11 Mountains

LUCKY 15 £150

09 Nov 2014 - 12:45 Market Rasen - Win
Tip It

Final Countdown @ 3.00

09 Nov 2014 - 1:20 Navan - Win
Tip It

Darwins Fox @ 4.00

09 Nov 2014 - 2:10 Limerick - Win
Tip It

Kauto Grand Mogol @ 3.00

09 Nov 2014 - 3:50 Limerick - Win
Tip It

Chakisto @ 3.50

Allowed £10 a line.
Report frog2 November 10, 2014 12:42 PM GMT
BFS One winner yesterday       
       
Total Actual Stake         £13,877.68
Total Actual Return         £30,668.96
Total Profit/Loss         £16,791.28
       
Mountains One Winner Yesterday       
       
Total Actual Stake         £1,650.00
Total Actual Return         £370.00
Total Profit/Loss         -£1,280.00
Report frog2 November 10, 2014 12:51 PM GMT
DAY 143 BFS

LUCKY 15 £5.10

13:15 Carlise
Divine Port 3.0
15:00 Carlise
Mickie 2.75
15:20 Kempton
Arabian Illusion 6.5
16:20 Kempton
Westminster 5.5

max allowed 34p a line.

DAY 12 Mountains

LUCKY 15 £150

10 Nov 2014 - 2:15 Kempton - Win
Tip It

The Dapper Tapper @ 7.00

10 Nov 2014 - 3:20 Kempton - Win
Tip It

Arabian Illusion @ 6.50

10 Nov 2014 - 5:50 Kempton - Win
Tip It

Larghetto @ 4.00

10 Nov 2014 - 2:05 Southwell - Win
Tip It

What An Oscar @ 6.50

Allowed £10 a line.
Report frog2 November 11, 2014 9:12 AM GMT
BFS One winner yesterday       
       
Total Actual Stake         £13,882.78
Total Actual Return         £30,670.66
Total Profit/Loss         £16,787.88
       
Mountains One Winner Yesterday       
       
Total Actual Stake         £1,800.00
Total Actual Return         £434.00
Total Profit/Loss         -£1,366.00
Report frog2 November 11, 2014 12:43 PM GMT
DAY 144 BFS

LUCKY 15 £2.25

13:40 Huntingdon
Minstrels Gallery 7.5
14:10 Huntingdon
Softsong 7.0
14:20 Huntingdon
Darna 4.5
14:50 Sedgefield
Silver Shuffle 5.5

max allowed 15p a line.


DAY 13 Mountains

LUCKY 15 £150

11 Nov 2014 - 3:10 Huntingdon - Win
Tip It

Favorite Girl @ 5.50

11 Nov 2014 - 3:40 Huntingdon - Win
Tip It

Episode @ 11.00

11 Nov 2014 - 1:00 Lingfield - Win
Tip It

A Doll In Milan @ 4.00

11 Nov 2014 - 1:30 Lingfield - Win
Tip It

Morestead @ 7.00

Allowed £10 a line.
Report frog2 November 12, 2014 8:41 AM GMT
BFS One winner yesterday       
       
Total Actual Stake         £13,885.03
Total Actual Return         £30,671.86
Total Profit/Loss         £16,786.83
       
Mountains One Winner Yesterday       
       
Total Actual Stake         £1,950.00
Total Actual Return         £749.00
Total Profit/Loss         -£1,201.00
Report frog2 November 12, 2014 11:55 AM GMT
DAY 145 BFS

LUCKY 15 £7.50

Ayr 1.20
Playhara 4.5
2.40 Exeter
Goohar 5.0
3.40 Exeter
Buckhorn Tom 5.5
8.40 Dundalk
Strandfield Lady 6.0

max allowed 50p a line.


DAY 14 Mountains

LUCKY 15 £150

Ayr 1.20
Playhara 4.5
2.40 Exeter
Goohar 4.5
3.40 Exeter
Buckhorn Tom 5.5
8.40 Dundalk
Strandfield Lady 6.0

Allowed £10 a line.
Report frog2 November 13, 2014 8:35 AM GMT
BFS No winners yesterday       
       
Total Actual Stake         £13,892.53
Total Actual Return         £30,671.86
Total Profit/Loss         £16,779.33
       
Mountains No Winners Yesterday       
       
Total Actual Stake         £2,100.00
Total Actual Return         £749.00
Total Profit/Loss         -£1,351.00
Report frog2 November 13, 2014 12:03 PM GMT
DAY 146 BFS

LUCKY 15 £6.90

12:50 Southwell
Indian Tinker 6.5
15:50 Southwell
Captain Dunne 4.0
15:30 Ludlow
Annaluna 5.0
16:00 Ludlow
Mr Kit Cat 3.5

max allowed 46p a line.


DAY 15 Mountains

LUCKY 15 £150

13 Nov 2014 - 3:50 Southwell - Win
Tip It
Bedloe's Island @ 8.00
13 Nov 2014 - 3:30 Ludlow - Win
Tip It
Prince Pippin @ 5.00
13 Nov 2014 - 7:20 Kempton - Win
Tip It
Pour La Victoire @ 5.50
13 Nov 2014 - 7:50 Kempton - Win
Tip It
Flicksta @ 9.00

Allowed £10 a line.
Report frog2 November 14, 2014 7:20 AM GMT
BFS One winner yesterday       
       
Total Actual Stake         £13,899.43
Total Actual Return         £30,676.00
Total Profit/Loss         £16,776.57
       
Mountains No Winners Yesterday       
       
Total Actual Stake         £2,150.00
Total Actual Return         £749.00
Total Profit/Loss         -£1,401.00
Report frog2 November 14, 2014 2:52 PM GMT
DAY 147 BFS

LUCKY 15 £1.50

19:00 Wolverhampton
Solidarity 4.0
18:45 Dundalk
Enigma Code 13.0
19:15 Dundalk
Solomon Northup 2.5
20:45 Dundalk
Won Diamond 5.5

max allowed 10p a line.


DAY 16 Mountains

LUCKY 15 £150

14 Nov 2014 - 5:00 W'Hampton - Win
Tip It

Most Tempting @ 4.00

14 Nov 2014 - 5:30 W'Hampton - Win
Tip It

Your Gifted @ 6.00

14 Nov 2014 - 6:30 W'Hampton - Win
Tip It

Very First Blade @ 7.00

14 Nov 2014 - 7:30 W'Hampton - Win
Tip It

Hidden Asset @ 3.75

Allowed £10 a line.
Report Big_Issue November 14, 2014 2:54 PM GMT
10p a line is a disgrace, you really should expose this lily livered approach to accepting bets to the world of social media, embarrass them for what they are
Report frog2 November 15, 2014 9:32 AM GMT
BFS One winner yesterday       
       
Total Actual Stake         £13,900.93
Total Actual Return         £30,676.67
Total Profit/Loss         £16,775.74
       
Mountains One Winner Yesterday       
       
Total Actual Stake         £2,300.00
Total Actual Return         £859.00
Total Profit/Loss         -£1,441.00
Report frog2 November 15, 2014 1:06 PM GMT
DAY 148 BFS

LUCKY 15 £5.40

13:30 Wetherby
Silver Dragon 6.5
14:00 Lingfield
Intransigent 3.5
15:45 Lingfield
Sabre Rock 8.0
16:05 Cheltenham
Bitofapuzzle 5.0

max allowed 36p a line.

DAY 17 Mountains

15 Nov 2014 - 1:25 Lingfield - Win
Tip It
Alfred Hutchinson @ 5.00
15 Nov 2014 - 2:00 Lingfield - Win
Tip It
Seeking Magic @ 8.00
15 Nov 2014 - 3:45 Lingfield - Win
Tip It
Seaside Rock @ 9.00
15 Nov 2014 - 2:15 Uttoxeter - Win
Tip It
Nafaath @ 3.75

LUCKY 15 £150

Allowed £10 a line.
Report frog2 November 15, 2014 4:19 PM GMT
Yeeeeesssssss!

Shame only allowed 36p a line
Report AllezLesBleus November 15, 2014 4:46 PM GMT
GREAT TIPPING again FROG.Happy
Report frog2 November 15, 2014 4:49 PM GMT
Thanks. Shame it wasn't the other bookie. Four losers there. Just shows how random the whole thing is. Paid £721.31 from a £5.40 stake.
Report AllezLesBleus November 15, 2014 4:53 PM GMT
Could be worse FROG.... if it was next monday it probably be on 1p a line instead of 36pLaugh
Report frog2 November 15, 2014 4:56 PM GMT
Of course I am happy to pick the winners! I wish some other punters had followed the bets. Have to see if allowed 36p tomorrow. Was only 10p yesterday.
Report AllezLesBleus November 15, 2014 5:29 PM GMT
Problem is now your vindication their system.........Somebody will probably be marching into their Boss office on Monday and telling their boss how much I saved Betfair by limiting the likes of Frog to penny stakes. After he won again on Saturday.

It be ignored the fact as well as the skill you need to pick the winners to get her a lucky 15. When you do TWO lucky 15s and get 4 winners out of the 8........You will need huge luck to put the 4 winners together.

Thats what you feel Betfair misses. Limit singles or whatever...... but doing it on the likes of a Lucky 15 even if you now managed to get 2 up in a few weeks.....your not putting restriction only on skilled punters now......... but also the LUCKY ONES.Sad

CONGRADULATIONS again...... to get TWO lucky 15 up in a matter of weeks its just FANTASTIC TIPPING.Crazy
Report frog2 November 16, 2014 10:03 AM GMT
BFS all Four winners yesterday       
       
Total Actual Stake         £13,906.33
Total Actual Return         £31,397.98
Total Profit/Loss         £17,491.65
       
Mountains No Winners Yesterday       
       
Total Actual Stake         £2,450.00
Total Actual Return         £859.00
Total Profit/Loss         -£1,591.00
Report frog2 November 16, 2014 11:55 AM GMT
DAY 149 BFS

LUCKY 15 7.80

16:00 Fontwell
Zero Visibility 5.0
13:00 Cheltenham
Howlongisafoot 7.0
13:35 Cheltenham
Emerging Talent 2.37
15:50 Cheltenham
Birch Hill 3.0

max allowed 52p a line.

DAY 18 Mountains

LUCKY 15 £150

16 Nov 2014 - 1:50 Fontwell - Win
Tip It
Amigo @ 6.50
16 Nov 2014 - 2:25 Fontwell - Win
Tip It
Spirit D'armor @ 6.00
16 Nov 2014 - 4:00 Fontwell - Win
Tip It
Zero Visibility @ 5.00
16 Nov 2014 - 1:35 Cheltenham - Win
Tip It
Emerging Talent @ 2.37

Allowed £10 a line.
Report frog2 November 17, 2014 8:39 AM GMT
BFS one winner yesterday       
       
Total Actual Stake         £13,914.13
Total Actual Return         £31,402.66
Total Profit/Loss         £17,488.53
       
Mountains one winner Yesterday       
       
Total Actual Stake         £2,600.00
Total Actual Return         £949.00
Total Profit/Loss         -£1,651.00
Report frog2 November 17, 2014 12:08 PM GMT
DAY 150 BFS

LUCKY 15 £3.15

13:45 Leicester
Rossa Parks 4.5
14:30 Plumpton
Midnight Lira 3.75
16:10 Wolverhampton
Best Trip 3.75
17:40 Wolverhampton
Wyoyo 13.0

max allowed 21p a line.

DAY 19 Mountains

LUCKY 15 £150

17 Nov 2014 - 1:45 Leicester - Win
Tip It
Rossa Parks @ 4.50
17 Nov 2014 - 3:00 Plumpton - Win
Tip It
La Madonnina @ 8.00
17 Nov 2014 - 3:30 Plumpton - Win
Tip It
Stow @ 9.00
17 Nov 2014 - 5:40 W'Hampton - Win
Tip It
Sioux Chieftain @ 3.25

Allowed £10 a line.
Report frog2 November 18, 2014 8:47 AM GMT
BFS no winners yesterday       
       
Total Actual Stake         £13,917.28
Total Actual Return         £31,402.66
Total Profit/Loss         £17,485.38
       
Mountains no winners Yesterday       
       
Total Actual Stake         £2,750.00
Total Actual Return         £949.00
Total Profit/Loss         -£1,801.00
Report frog2 November 19, 2014 11:55 AM GMT
DAY 151 BFS

LUCKY 15 £2.40

13:30 Lingfield
Mon Cigar 3.5
14:00 Lingfield
Amadeus Wolfe Tone 6.0
15:40 Warwick
Hold Hands 13.0
16:25 Kempton
Almaardiyah 5.0

max allowed 16p a line.

DAY 20 Mountains

LUCKY 15 £150

19 Nov 2014 - 1:30 Lingfield - Win
Tip It
Ghost Train @ 6.00
19 Nov 2014 - 3:00 Lingfield - Win
Tip It
Skidby Mill @ 5.50
19 Nov 2014 - 4:25 Kempton - Win
Tip It
Almaardiyah @ 5.00
19 Nov 2014 - 6:55 Kempton - Win
Tip It
Buckland @ 5.00

Allowed £10 a line.
Report frog2 November 20, 2014 10:04 AM GMT
BFS no winners yesterday       
       
Total Actual Stake         £13,919.68
Total Actual Return         £31,402.66
Total Profit/Loss         £17,482.98
       
Mountains no winners Yesterday       
       
Total Actual Stake         £2,900.00
Total Actual Return         £949.00
Total Profit/Loss         -£1,951.00
Report frog2 November 20, 2014 12:21 PM GMT
DAY 152 BFS

LUCKY 15 £8.40

13:00 Market Rasen
Viva Steve 3.25
14:15 Chepstow
Steel Summit 4.0
13:20 Wincanton
Pinkneys Prince 5.5
15:00 Wincanton
Pressies Girl 4.5

max allowed 56p a line.

DAY 21 Mountains

LUCKY 15 £150

20 Nov 2014 - 12:30 Market Rasen - Win
Tip It
Vivant Poeme @ 5.00
20 Nov 2014 - 1:00 Market Rasen - Win
Tip It
Viva Steve @ 3.25
20 Nov 2014 - 1:30 Market Rasen - Win
Tip It
Richmond @ 2.37
20 Nov 2014 - 2:40 Market Rasen - Win
Tip It
Phare Isle @ 7.00

Allowed £10 a line.
Report frog2 November 21, 2014 12:36 PM GMT
BFS one winner yesterday       
       
Total Actual Stake         £13,928.48
Total Actual Return         £31,407.14
Total Profit/Loss         £17,478.66
       
Mountains one winner Yesterday       
       
Total Actual Stake         £3,150.00
Total Actual Return         £986.50
Total Profit/Loss         -£2,163.50
Report frog2 November 21, 2014 12:50 PM GMT
DAY 153 BFS

LUCKY 15 £2.55

13:10 Ffos Las
Letbeso 6.5
13:30 Ascot
The Skyfarmer 3.5
15:15 Ascot
Ardkilly Witness 5.0
15:50 Ascot
Benbecula 5.5

max allowed 17p a line.

DAY 22 Mountains

LUCKY 15 £150

21 Nov 2014 - 1:10 Ffos Las - Win
Tip It

Letbeso @ 6.50

21 Nov 2014 - 2:40 Ascot - Win
Tip It

Niceonefrankie @ 2.87

21 Nov 2014 - 5:50 W'Hampton - Win
Tip It

Cape Cay @ 3.50

21 Nov 2014 - 7:40 Dundalk - Win
Tip It

Beat The Ballot @ 4.00

Allowed £10 a line.
Report frog2 November 22, 2014 9:52 AM GMT
BFS no winners yesterday       
       
Total Actual Stake         £13,931.03
Total Actual Return         £31,407.14
Total Profit/Loss         £17,476.11
       
Mountains one winner Yesterday       
       
Total Actual Stake         £3,300.00
Total Actual Return         £1,041.50
Total Profit/Loss         -£2,258.50
Report frog2 November 22, 2014 11:51 AM GMT
DAY 154 BFS

LUCKY 15 £0.00

12:55 Lingfield
Super Kid 3.25
14:15 Huntingdon
De La Bech 4.0
12:45 Haydock
Sixty Something 7.0
14:25 Haydock
Volnay De Thaix 5.0

max allowed 0p a line.

DAY 23 Mountains

LUCKY 15 £150

22 Nov 2014 - 1:25 Lingfield - Win
Tip It

Humour @ 5.00

22 Nov 2014 - 2:00 Lingfield - Win
Tip It

Katie Taylor @ 8.50

22 Nov 2014 - 12:35 Huntingdon - Win
Tip It

Make Me A Fortune @ 4.50

22 Nov 2014 - 2:50 Huntingdon - Win
Tip It

Flemi Two Toes @ 8.00

Allowed £10 a line.
Report mirisoo November 22, 2014 10:18 PM GMT
Max allowed.......... 0p a line? You have got to be kidding right...
Report mirisoo November 24, 2014 11:28 AM GMT
Guess you quit when they refused to take a bet from you eh froggy
Report frog2 November 25, 2014 9:47 AM GMT
Will try again today. Maybe their system will forget the limits if you don't bet for a couple of days.
Report frog2 November 25, 2014 10:17 AM GMT
DAY 155 BFS

LUCKY 15 £2.85

15:10 Southwell
Luv U Whatever 3.5
13:30 Lingfield
Malanos 4.3
14:00 Lingfield
Arbeo 7.5
15:00 Lingfield
Upton Mead 6.5

max allowed 19p a line.

DAY 24 Mountains

LUCKY 15 £150

25 Nov 2014 - 1:00 Lingfield - Win
Tip It

Sand Artist @ 3.25

25 Nov 2014 - 3:00 Lingfield - Win
Tip It

Upton Mead @ 6.50

25 Nov 2014 - 12:10 Southwell - Win
Tip It

It's All A Game @ 3.75

25 Nov 2014 - 2:20 Sedgefield - Win
Tip It

Stanley Bridge @ 5.50

Allowed £10 a line.
Report frog2 November 26, 2014 11:31 AM GMT
DAY 156 BFS

LUCKY 15 £2.70

15:10 Lingfield
Harrogate Fair 12.0
13:10 Fontwell
Home For Tea 4.3
15:50 Fontwell
Dexter Benjamin 4.5
18:45 Kempton
Liva's Dream 15.0

max allowed 18p a line.

DAY 25 Mountains

LUCKY 15 £150

26 Nov 2014 - 3:40 Lingfield - Win
Tip It

Red Dragon @ 8.00

26 Nov 2014 - 1:50 Wetherby - Win
Tip It

Vasco D'ycy @ 6.50

26 Nov 2014 - 3:50 Fontwell - Win
Tip It

Dexter Benjamin @ 4.50

26 Nov 2014 - 7:45 Kempton - Win
Tip It

Henry Grace @ 11.00

Stake : £150.00 (£10.00 x 15)

Allowed £10 a line.
Report nbdbscms December 2, 2014 11:48 AM GMT
First time on here for a while.Any reason for the sudden stop,hope all is well frog.Looked forward to catching up with your results.Took a while to find it!
Report frog2 December 3, 2014 12:17 PM GMT
I stopped posting because it seemed pointless to keep putting up the bets as Betfair were nolonger taking them. All it does is tip them off as to where the value is so they can change their prices.

For those interested Lucky 15s are a great bet if you are willing to wait for a payday and can pick value horses. They can the prices so wrong in the morning. If you fail to find value the margin is big in favour of the bookie. But if you find value 30% return on stakes is easily obtainable.

With the exception of Betfred most firms seem happy to take these bets.
Report nbdbscms December 3, 2014 3:35 PM GMT
I don't follow horses but fully understand the logic.It should have made some on here think of the potential of this type of bet.It is a pity there aren't more sensible topics on the forum these days.I am sure you will keep doing the Lucky 15s and continue to show a decent overall profit.If you do hit the jackpot any time it would be good to see the figures on here.Best of luck.
Report Oasisdreamer December 3, 2014 9:20 PM GMT
Great thread frog2 and well done with the profits to date. 

Obviously value is key but do you have any specific form factors you focus on to find your selections? 

Looks like most of them fall in the 3/1 to 10/1 price category....I guess playing the L15 bet you don't want to be too far away from the top of the market for selections...in this sort of multiple bet.
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