Stewards at Leicester

that would have been very close without
the interferance.

agreed

clever bit of race riding that. Ocean knew what he was doing imo.

terrible jockeyship from Ocean


4 day ban to follow

I'd back no change - across the Irish sea or Atlantic I'd be saying different.

don't really get the distance thing.  the distance is what it is because he's almost brought the runner-up to a complete standstill

1.01 to be be disqualified in AUSTRALIA and AMERICA - But ...

- We are in 'good old blighty'.

1.25  free money

It would but actual distance too far. Should be free money ffp

fpp

layed the winner @1.25,might get chucked.
Not much damaged done if it don't.

onlooker is correct should be dq'd here as well imo but won't

our rules are you can hamper another horse as much as you want
as long as you win by a length and over
jockey get hands slapped
but if money down
do they really care

dont understand how this could not be thrown out.The rules need looking at if not.But we all know that.

the rules are ok

the stewards are all over the place

Kept it

never in doubt

Its plain wrong!

Its laughable our enquirys, how can he keep the race after that??. It gets worse it really does. a 2 day ban no doubt.

stewards have no fuccking backbone at all british racing laughing stock cut the 2nd up still keep the race just get a little break for your trouble

I backed the winner to place and think it should be thrown out altogether. pathetic british racing, no backbone and no respect for the punter.

I saw a horse get chucked for a place at Emerald Downs for less than that last night!!

I think they are too scared to change a winner

The bookies run our racing Bonza. joke.

Would you get the same result with every steward?

Oscin even looked round before deciding to give another smack to make sure interference was enough to stop the second going past

Its ok to ram another horse, its ok to whip another horse in the eyes, its ok to almost throw another jockey off the other horse, as long as its a length its all fair.

Maybe giving a dead heat in those circumsizes is a better idea

Why are you lot blubbing about the stoods? Correct application of the current rules/laws

The best horse usually wins though. The second was finishing but not like a train. They couldn't be sure it would have won.

Cider and Howard were the stewards dealing with it

only thing with this rule is a jockey can hamper another badly and keep race
as long as distance is a length

It was three quarters of a length though?

But what nobody ever says about the way these rules are now applied is when a horse wins on merit BUT causes trouble behind which costs another horse a place.

Under the old rules a horse in the latter situation would be placed BEHIND the one it cost a place, even if it had won.

Today, though, that does not seem to be possible because of the over-liberal rules.

If the bookies scrapped the FPTP rule how many races would get overturned in that situation??

Betfair don't pay FPTP and rightly so. if the FPTP gets chucked because of interference then its tough and that's the way it should be. annoying when it happens but it would make it much fairer imo.

The Stewards found Murphy in breach of Rule (B)54.2 and guilty of improper riding in that he had allowed his horse to drift left causing interference. They suspended him for 3 days as follows: Tuesday 10, Wednesday 11 and Thursday 12 June 2014.

But that was too draconian - The Knight - and almost unworkable, in reflection - most especially from a punting point of view, and would be even more so, with 'in-running' betting nowadays.

You must remember the absolute MESS of the FIRST THREE home ALL being 'thrown out' at Royal Ascot, in the Queen Anne.

You do make a good point onlooker and I do recall that Royal Ascot race....but our racing led the world for an awfully long while with the rules as they used to be applied. And, I don't think anyone thinks that our racing today is better than it used to be.

That said, I would rather see horses keep races on merit but lets not forget the difference between, say, second and third prize money in a lot of big races is huge. Is it fair that a horse and its connections are denied what would have been their rightful placing and the cash which accompanies it because the winner cuts them up and yet goes unpunished (jockey bans aside)?

The secret is common sense from the stewards but still using the rules as they now stand. However, it is now so rare to see a horse thrown out I believe the stewards are not using common sense but are instead using winning distances as a very strict rule of thumb.

You do make a good point onlooker and I do recall that Royal Ascot race....but our racing led the world for an awfully long while with the rules as they used to be applied. And, I don't think anyone thinks that our racing today is better than it used to be.

That said, I would rather see horses keep races on merit but lets not forget the difference between, say, second and third prize money in a lot of big races is huge. Is it fair that a horse and its connections are denied what would have been their rightful placing and the cash which accompanies it because the winner cuts them up and yet goes unpunished (jockey bans aside)?

The secret is common sense from the stewards but still using the rules as they now stand. However, it is now so rare to see a horse thrown out I believe the stewards are not using common sense but are instead using winning distances as a very strict rule of thumb.

Sorry - posted twice in error...