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factmachine
08 May 14 21:53
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TODAY OVER THE CHESTER PA SYSTEM WE HAD TO LISTEN FOR OVER 20 MINS TO THE GREAT SERVICE OFFERED BY BETFAIR AND THE FREE WIFI SO YOU CAN LOG ON,AS WELL AS THE EQUALLY FANTASTIC VALUE OFFERED BY CHESTERBET,NOT A MENTION OF THE ONCOURSE BOOKMAKERS,ALSO THE SINGLE OPERATORS HAD TO PAY AN EXTRA £30 FOR A MEMBER OF STAFF THAT DIDNT EXIST,NO WONDER HALF THE RING IS EMPTY!
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Report IanP May 9, 2014 8:37 AM BST
It seems  to me that you can only access Betfair through the wifi.  I tried to use the Racing Post app and it was blocked.
Report adge May 9, 2014 8:58 AM BST
half the ring empty , not a shortage of bookmakers , surely ?
Report Big_Issue May 9, 2014 9:03 AM BST
If business is so poor and expenses so high, why is every joint manned at these meetings?

C'mon you bookie chappies, stop telling porkies just because you don;t have the licence to print money like the pre-BF days of 20-40% and more over-rounds.
Report You'vegotit May 9, 2014 9:18 AM BST
There were phone charging points supplied for punters at Chester yesterday so that if their phone was running flat after placing all their bets on the exchanges, they could recharge their phones to continue betting. The only charge the Tatts books got was a high entry fee.

Now what was that about books and racecourses working together..........................
Report mmmalushka May 9, 2014 9:28 AM BST
Good to see the racecourse executive have joined the 21st century and allowing Betfair to provide free WiFi for their customers.
Report chavman May 9, 2014 9:29 AM BST
We won't mention then the high attendance or book favourable results will we
Report chavman May 9, 2014 9:32 AM BST
Or the total recreational cash easy type punter who attends will we
Report chavman May 9, 2014 9:35 AM BST
Who have probably never heard of betfair
Report You'vegotit May 9, 2014 9:37 AM BST
Or the multitude of empty bookmakers pitches in Tatts as most of the people head through the underpass and out into the parade ring where the facilities are so much better than in Tatts.

High attendance is certainly not fed through to the main body of Tatts bookmakers, if it was I'm sure the ring would be full and not half empty.
Report You'vegotit May 9, 2014 9:41 AM BST
"Good to see the racecourse executive have joined the 21st century and allowing Betfair to provide free WiFi for their customers"

Great news if you want to see the end of the traditional betting ring which "initiatives" (ahem) like this will only hasten
Report chavman May 9, 2014 9:44 AM BST
And what would you suggest as your next move then
Report chavman May 9, 2014 9:45 AM BST
As regards your pitch,ahem
Report chavman May 9, 2014 9:47 AM BST
Perhaps you should get ideas off the forum on what to do next
Report chavman May 9, 2014 9:48 AM BST
1. Move out of tatts
Report adge May 9, 2014 10:04 AM BST
sell it ?
Report You'vegotit May 9, 2014 10:10 AM BST
The punters want Betfair prices without commission from the on-course bookmakers. They also want 1/4 odds 1-2-3-4 on 16 runner handicaps with Betfair win prices even though the place market to the books will be well overbroke.

Many (not all) of racecourses on the other hand want to screw the on-course books for as much as they can with ever increasing entrance fees, having to pay entry fees for staff even when you do not have any(incredible), and new marketing fees that do nothing to promote the ring. They care not one toss about this current unsustainable bookmakers business model.

Something has to give.

For me it is a mixture of both. Bookmakers have to compete with the exchanges and work to much smaller margins, but they need help from the racecourses if a vibrant ring is to be brought back. Racecourses like Chester are ruthless money makers, high entrance fees, high food and drink fees, and they will jump into bed with anyone who offers an extra buck. Which businesses live and die is not their concern but I believe their current business model will eventually crash and burn as will the levy contribution as more and more betting money is siphoned offshore and more and more smaller books give up this uneven struggle.
Report factmachine May 9, 2014 10:13 AM BST
LIKE OTHER RACECOURSES,CHESTER DO NOT WANT PEOPLE WHO ARE ACTUALLY INTERESTED IN THE HORSE RACING AS SEEN BY THE HUGE TENTED VILLAGE THAT NOW RESTRICTS THE VIEWING IN THE DEE AND TATTS DOWN TO THE LAST FURLONG,COMBINED WITH EXORBITANT ENTRANCE FEES,PARKING,AND RACECARD PRICES,THE UTTER CONTEMPT THEY HAVE FOR THE RACEGOER CANT BE BETTER EXEMPLIFIED BY CHESTERBET,THEY COULDNT HAVE DONE A BETTER JOB IF THEY TRIED OF DRIVING THE RACEGOER AWAY!
Report factmachine May 9, 2014 10:21 AM BST
ALTHOUGH THE 2% A RUNNER BOYS NEAR THE PADDOCK ARE ALLRIGHT JACKHappyPLUS THEY NEED A MINIMUM OF TWO STAFFLaughLaughLaughLaugh
Report adge May 9, 2014 11:26 PM BST
better today ?
Report chavman May 9, 2014 11:41 PM BST
Laughif it was it wouldn't be Grin
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