JOSEPH

dear oh dear

You cannot ride a race like it's a bit of work

unplaced

Don't think he was supposed to give it a hard race Pandora.

Fair enough if the horse wasn't ready.

But stewards should look into losing 2nd place by easing down

won his maiden on soft going

how can that be defended?

Do they have different rules in Ireland? Looked bad that.

easing down? The horse that came 2nd should have won. You guys are just seeing what you want to.

Commentators on ATR don't help either.

If you are not going to try your best to win then withdraw.
Farcical !

3rd*

he did win his maiden on soft going ,but the stable was firing unlike at the moment where there just going through the motions

Blatant non trier. Can you tell me what the penalty for that is please?

What was the horse he got beat on this time last year, when he held it up about 1 furlong behind the leader?

0/7 fav,s.

O'Brien freely stated before the race that he wouldn't be given a hard time and was only 80% fit.  If you still backed it after that then you can't really moan can you ?

So basically he freely admitted to breaking the rules?

Well M.M ..if it was only 80% right , why run it on that going ?..The best facilities in the world at Coolemore and it arrives at the track 80% fit ffs...

Million Plenty would have backed the horses,plenty would not have seen the interview. we are talking about odds on favs,not 100 shots. You cannot treat the betting public with utter contempt. If they won't go on the ground,not sure about running them,them don't run them

He doesn't price the race up though does he?

He said he either wanted a race or a gallop and he would get more out of a race , wasn't happy about the ground but said he'd still run it.  Told the public it was 80% fit and that Joeseph wouldn't get to the bottom of him.   Obviously if people haven't heard him say that then they would be a little miffed but that's probably why it drifted like a barge.  It's one of his best animals  why should he have to knock the stuffing out of it when its not cherry ripe?

Not cherry ripe,don't run it.

Amazed at all the controversy on here.
Aiden O'Brien told you all you needed to know prior to racing.
Instead of  banging out idiotic posts on this forum..listen to what those interviewed have to say.
MM spot on mate

After all, he does it EVERY year at this time

rothman You think everyone who backed the horses across the world was watching ATR,get a grip FFS

u should be laying on the favs,simple as.6,10 next,

When racing, the rules state.. to ride to gain the best possible position...did joseph do that, regardless what his daddy said.

No,they were given an easy. Against the rules,no matter the going,no matter what the trainer says before the race

Only amateurs dont have the tools to play this game.
ATR is essential

koi we know them the rules , but we also know that it goes on all the time everywhere. The Champion flat jockey is the worst for not riding for a place ffs

At least he told people before the race!

And I wasn't watching ATR I heard it on Timeform radio where they played his interview.

Smullen didn't give that one a hard ride though 

Oooooooooops- more carnage for odds on S/P backers. 4/6 toppled over into 3rd - has this ever happened before? Jockey to blame, of course, dear oh dear!

...and it's the same old, predictable forumites posting on the 'jockey to blame' thread

fav never in it,0/8,nothing against joseph.

MM - you are right with regards to the interview etc. Very similar to Crisford talking about Farrh before last years Lockinge.....

I jest - I am more concerned about the peeps who jumped on this morning and how the subsequent drift and ride will look to them - particularly if they are new to the sport.  It's no wonder FOBT and Football betting appeal to the masses. (IMHO)