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MARILYNMANSON
25 Mar 14 13:16
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On Friday 21st March we experienced a technical issue with our payments platform processing deposits from customers. While we were attempting to reconcile these issues with the banks we took the precaution of suspending withdrawals over the weekend. Following resolution of the problem we re-enabled withdrawals for over 99.5 % of customers yesterday afternoon. We have a very small number of accounts which are still impacted and reconciliation work is on-going.  We are working to restore normal service on these accounts as soon as possible.

I would like to personally apologise for the lack of communications on this subject over the weekend. I would also like to reiterate that all customer funds are held in a trust fund independent of Betfair so we can assure you that your funds are safe.  I can confirm that no customers will be impacted financially as a result of the technical issue that occurred.

Ian Chuter
Group Ops Director

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By:
MARILYNMANSON
When: 25 Mar 14 13:17
A very quick response to the whole issue.
By:
The Kitten
When: 25 Mar 14 13:17
Dear Sirs,

You suspended my account and when I enquired why you told me that you were having deposit problems where funds were not leaving my bank and being received by you. In order to unsuspend my account I had to authorise you to debit my account balance with you by £1000 with the assurance that the £1000 was in fact still with my bank.

The money (in 4 amounts) HAS left my bank.

I therefore require you to recredit my account with the £1000 you have stolen from it.

If this is not done by 5pm today my solicitors will be instructed.
By:
MARILYNMANSON
When: 25 Mar 14 13:18
Please stop complaining. Remember what happens At Betfair stays at Betfair.......just like the Fight Club slogan.
By:
MARILYNMANSON
When: 25 Mar 14 13:19
Outrageous The Kitten, they do not give a flying ****.
By:
swift-tuttle
When: 25 Mar 14 13:21
its a good job there is an electronic audit trail and everything can be sorted out
By:
salmon spray
When: 25 Mar 14 13:44
Well at least Mr Chuter seems to have realised they have made a complete mess of this. I note he says over the weekend though. Monday is not the weekend except for toffs and senior managers.
By:
MillionaireMaker
When: 25 Mar 14 13:48
I can confirm that no customers will be impacted financially as a result of the technical issue that occurred.

Apart from me who was expecting to have my funds that I withdrew last week in my bank by now and not reversed to my Betfair account without my knowledge.

I now don't have enough to cover a Direct Debit that came out and will face a charge by my bank. 

Shambles of a company.
By:
MARILYNMANSON
When: 25 Mar 14 13:51
Well you have been impacted, right in and claim.
By:
diabolicalliability
When: 25 Mar 14 13:53
How can he possibly know that ?
By:
Facts
When: 25 Mar 14 13:53
Claim on this to betfair. You have to be reimbursed. It was their shambles that caused your issue.
By:
tomo1984
When: 25 Mar 14 13:53
This is STILL not sorted, despite there protestations of it affecting a 'minority' of customers!
By:
salmon spray
When: 25 Mar 14 13:54
It was perfectly obvious that some people were going to be impacted in that way.
By:
MARILYNMANSON
When: 25 Mar 14 13:55
*write*
By:
Facts
When: 25 Mar 14 13:56
MM

Where are the explanations from Betfair to  its customers as to what caused the issue ? And what  are the assurances that this will not/ cannot happen again !
By:
elise
When: 25 Mar 14 13:57
i am shocked at how many people over the last few days have said that betfair funds not being transferred back have left them short of cash or overdrawn

yes betfair has failed, but how can anyone be putting what are essential funds into a gambling site?
By:
MillionaireMaker
When: 25 Mar 14 13:58
Have done Marilyn.  I will post there laughable reply in due course.
By:
MARILYNMANSON
When: 25 Mar 14 13:58
None. As I have here,there and everywhere, I have been told my transactions are all above board, but I will have to wait 24/48 hours minimum for my money.
No mention on Monday 15,000 were affected and still 3,000 today.
By:
MARILYNMANSON
When: 25 Mar 14 13:59
Good luck Million.
By:
metro john
When: 25 Mar 14 14:01
yes I also had my withdrawal reversed without my knowledge.
By:
salmon spray
When: 25 Mar 14 14:01
You're being a little naïve elise.
Betfair know better than you which is why they accept credit cards ( wrongly imo ).
By:
MillionaireMaker
When: 25 Mar 14 14:02
Elise,  if you withdraw YOUR money , you expect it to be paid to you.  If I had known there was going to be an issue I could have left more money in my account but as I KNEW (LOL) I had money coming in I didn't feel it necessary.  Surely there is a law about them rejecting your withdrawal with no good reason apart from the fact they made a right balls up. 

The worst thing is they didn't TELL ANYONE what was going on
By:
elise
When: 25 Mar 14 14:02
hardly salmon, betfair don't take the money individuals send it, sending funds you are going to need to pay bills to me is just plain daft
By:
elise
When: 25 Mar 14 14:03
if you read my first post MM you will see that i say " yes betfair are at fault"
By:
salmon spray
When: 25 Mar 14 14:05
People bet on credit cards with money which isn't theirs in the first place.
By:
MARILYNMANSON
When: 25 Mar 14 14:06
Just had a call from Betfair, at last, my money has gone back to my account. It was a cash deposit (debit card) and it is being returned.
By:
MARILYNMANSON
When: 25 Mar 14 14:07

Mar 25, 2014 -- 2:05PM, salmon spray wrote:


People bet on credit cards with money which isn't theirs in the first place.


That is a very good point.

By:
Facts
When: 25 Mar 14 14:07
Which,tbf,isn't bf's problem
By:
metro john
When: 25 Mar 14 14:07
People missing the point maybe a little?,Betfair had more than just a couple of issues going on last week,Amended ludlow reversal(i was involved with that),access problems,correct amounts showing due to reversals,Time delays of hours waiting for winnings to show in accounts,then withdrawal ,and reversal of withdrawals made without accounts knowing? The whole machine was a feck up,and much deeper than individual issue as they would like to show it.
By:
MARILYNMANSON
When: 25 Mar 14 14:08

Mar 25, 2014 -- 2:07PM, metro john wrote:


People missing the point maybe a little?,Betfair had more than just a couple of issues going on last week,Amended ludlow reversal(i was involved with that),access problems,correct amounts showing due to reversals,Time delays of hours waiting for winnings to show in accounts,then withdrawal ,and reversal of withdrawals made without accounts knowing? The whole machine was a feck up,and much deeper than individual issue as they would like to show it.


Agreed.

By:
Navel-Gazer
When: 25 Mar 14 14:10
Saying the magic word 'sorry' isn't a 'get out of jail free' card - there is absolutely NO excuse for failing to post a statement about this earlier...utterly appalling!

It's a long odds-on shot that there will be many more customers like MM that've been screwed like he has with standing orders going unpaid so who's gonna pick up those tabs Mr.Chuter?

PS - just what is this 'independent trust fund' we can be so reassured by? Confused
By:
elise
When: 25 Mar 14 14:10
that's why it's called a credit card, but unless you live in la la land the bills coming in a few weeks
By:
elise
When: 25 Mar 14 14:13
you shouldn't be reassured by ring fencing either, you don't need to think back too far to remember an exchange that seeded its markets using the customer ring fenced cash

supposedly that's not possible, but i bet if any major site does go t1is up you'd be waiting a long time to see any cash
By:
ladycarla
When: 25 Mar 14 14:13
Most banks give you a free £250 overdraft these days, why don't you have one of these accounts, gives you a £250 buffer.
By:
HonkyJoe
When: 25 Mar 14 14:17
Most of the major credit cards have vowed to bring in rules at the end of this year that prevent their funds from being used for gambling anyway.  God knows how that's going to affect betting liquidity...
By:
toffee87
When: 25 Mar 14 14:28
We were unable to process your withdrawal at this time. Please try again later

being trying to withdraw £5k since Saturday !

Good to know I am a 0.5%
By:
toffee87
When: 25 Mar 14 14:30
Most of the major credit cards have vowed to bring in rules at the end of this year that prevent their funds from being used for gambling anyway

why would they do this ? Its good money for them taking almost 3% of every deposit and charging interest on top of it
By:
G1_Jockey_4
When: 25 Mar 14 14:31
lol at millionairemakers post Laugh

are you del boy?
By:
Big Boss
When: 25 Mar 14 14:53
MillionaireMaker Date Joined: 16 May 07

I can confirm that no customers will be impacted financially as a result of the technical issue that occurred.

Apart from me who was expecting to have my funds that I withdrew last week in my bank by now and not reversed to my Betfair account without my knowledge.

I now don't have enough to cover a Direct Debit that came out and will face a charge by my bank. 

Shambles of a company.


IF YOU HAVENT GOT FUNDS TO COVER A DIRECT DEBIT, YOU SHOULD NOT BE GAMBLING, HTH
By:
Delightful
When: 25 Mar 14 15:02
Big Boss - People can do what they want.
An extremely pious posting by you

HTH.
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