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09 Mar 14
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I can confirm that this WILL go ahead this year and the first bet or lay will be posted on Monday evening.
As many people know, this began in 2002 and is the highlight of the year for all Betfair forumites. The £30,000 has been won in 8 out of 11 years.
Newcomers, please note:
1. There is no middle ground - by the close of play on Friday, either the £30k will be won or the £5k will be lost.
2. There are no guarantees in racing - 8 times we have won £30k, but 3 times we have lost £5k.
3. Obviously that is a net profit of £185,000 but there are no certainties year on year.
4. All bets or lays are either based on inside information (I place bets in the Far East for "certain people") or my opinion. No clarification will be given on any bet - you can either follow or leave.
5. Obviously you are equally welcome to turn £500 to £3000, or even £50 to £300.......the stakes are entirely your own choice.
6. Ignorant sorts who write "post your bets" will be duly ignored and blocked.
7. And just to clarify I posted as "Grave Dodger" for about 6 years before switching accounts and posting as "GraveDodger" for the past 6 years or so.
8. This is a special gift from me to the world and ONLY operates for Cheltenham. Please do not beg me to do this for other big meetings, or ask me to give you private bets. No matter what money you offer me, all such requests will be met with a polite refusal.
9. The target is £30k from a starting bank of £5k. So that will be £25,000 clear profit. Once the profit is reached, all bets STOP, even if it happens on Day One.
10. There will not be bets in every race, and I will always tell you when the next bet is due to be given out. Most investments will actually be lays.
Good luck to everyone. The first investment will be given around 10.30pm on Monday night.................
STARTING BANK = 5000
CURRENT BANK = 5000
Current profit = 0
Next bet = 10.30pm Monday
As many people know, this began in 2002 and is the highlight of the year for all Betfair forumites. The £30,000 has been won in 8 out of 11 years.
Newcomers, please note:
1. There is no middle ground - by the close of play on Friday, either the £30k will be won or the £5k will be lost.
2. There are no guarantees in racing - 8 times we have won £30k, but 3 times we have lost £5k.
3. Obviously that is a net profit of £185,000 but there are no certainties year on year.
4. All bets or lays are either based on inside information (I place bets in the Far East for "certain people") or my opinion. No clarification will be given on any bet - you can either follow or leave.
5. Obviously you are equally welcome to turn £500 to £3000, or even £50 to £300.......the stakes are entirely your own choice.
6. Ignorant sorts who write "post your bets" will be duly ignored and blocked.
7. And just to clarify I posted as "Grave Dodger" for about 6 years before switching accounts and posting as "GraveDodger" for the past 6 years or so.
8. This is a special gift from me to the world and ONLY operates for Cheltenham. Please do not beg me to do this for other big meetings, or ask me to give you private bets. No matter what money you offer me, all such requests will be met with a polite refusal.
9. The target is £30k from a starting bank of £5k. So that will be £25,000 clear profit. Once the profit is reached, all bets STOP, even if it happens on Day One.
10. There will not be bets in every race, and I will always tell you when the next bet is due to be given out. Most investments will actually be lays.
Good luck to everyone. The first investment will be given around 10.30pm on Monday night.................
STARTING BANK = 5000
CURRENT BANK = 5000
Current profit = 0
Next bet = 10.30pm Monday
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and don't forget his connection to a well know tipping criminal that got convicted for ....
and gravedodger, firstly it's more like 1 in 10 rather than 1 in 3 (prove your pre 2011 years please) and secondly it's only 25k profit if you actually bet and this forum has established pretty much every year you talk cack
frankly i hope you win because there will be plenty of lemmings that believe your garbage, so for their sake not your gl
frankly i hope you win because there will be plenty of lemmings that believe your garbage, so for their sake not your gl
already excellent news today!!!!!!!!
First Lieutenant (nap of meeting) goes for the Gold Cup!!
First Lieutenant (nap of meeting) goes for the Gold Cup!!
don't worry xmx - 4 penalty kicks today and we end today with about £8500
vautour CANNOT win - do not worry about it
vautour CANNOT win - do not worry about it
is it possible in 2014 that some parties still succeed in "getting at" some of these NH stars iyo?
well roger, willie mullins believe so (allegedly), but that is nothing to do with my lays
the fact is that whatever the "form" of any horse, sometimes they are just not right on the day for whatever reason and then that is the time to LAY, LAY , LAY!!!!!!!!!
the fact is that whatever the "form" of any horse, sometimes they are just not right on the day for whatever reason and then that is the time to LAY, LAY , LAY!!!!!!!!!
GraveDodger • March 9, 2014 2:59 PM GMT
PS In 2013 I did not operate this due to time constraints.
In 2012 the £30k was reached long before the Gold Cup!!
elise • March 9, 2014 4:08 PM GMT
you wouldn't have seen much of last years, he lost 5k in two bets and vanished, so there's one lie for starters
Celtic Son • March 9, 2014 6:21 PM GMT
Same cobblers every year. Flukes a win once every decade and quickly forgets the massive losses he racks up. Utter moron of a man.
Ballydoyle • March 11, 2014 7:09 AM GMT
Aaaaah it's the return of the twaat and his sophisticated betting advice. Yes that's right be intelligent and lay your entire bank on one bet because this clown's lays never lose...but that's not strictly true now is it? Anyone care to bring up previous years when banks were wiped out by lays that dared to win?
Grave dodger you tw@t
You DID do this challenge in 2013
You seem to have a very selective memory, as elise stated you busto after 2 races in 2013
You have not got anywhere near 8 out of 11 years.
It is fortunate for you that the forum archives are not searchable.
While I realise that you desperately crave attention, please spare us your bare-faced lies.
Face up to the fact that you are merely a pin-sticker.
PS In 2013 I did not operate this due to time constraints.
In 2012 the £30k was reached long before the Gold Cup!!
elise • March 9, 2014 4:08 PM GMT
you wouldn't have seen much of last years, he lost 5k in two bets and vanished, so there's one lie for starters
Celtic Son • March 9, 2014 6:21 PM GMT
Same cobblers every year. Flukes a win once every decade and quickly forgets the massive losses he racks up. Utter moron of a man.
Ballydoyle • March 11, 2014 7:09 AM GMT
Aaaaah it's the return of the twaat and his sophisticated betting advice. Yes that's right be intelligent and lay your entire bank on one bet because this clown's lays never lose...but that's not strictly true now is it? Anyone care to bring up previous years when banks were wiped out by lays that dared to win?
Grave dodger you tw@t
You DID do this challenge in 2013
You seem to have a very selective memory, as elise stated you busto after 2 races in 2013
You have not got anywhere near 8 out of 11 years.
It is fortunate for you that the forum archives are not searchable.
While I realise that you desperately crave attention, please spare us your bare-faced lies.
Face up to the fact that you are merely a pin-sticker.
u r a loud-mouthed ignoramus club20 and WRONG! I did not do a 5k to 30k challenge in 2013 - fact!
2013
STARTING BANK = £5000
TARGET = £30,000
CURRENT BANK = £5000
BET ONE = LAY BACK IN FOCUS (1.30 cheltenham) ON WIN MARKET AT CURRENT ODDS OF 3.4
RISK 4000 OUT OF YOUR 5000 BANK to WIN 1667 PROFIT
IGNORE THE HYPE - THIS SHOULD LOSE
but it didn't .....
STARTING BANK = £5000
TARGET = £30,000
CURRENT BANK = £5000
BET ONE = LAY BACK IN FOCUS (1.30 cheltenham) ON WIN MARKET AT CURRENT ODDS OF 3.4
RISK 4000 OUT OF YOUR 5000 BANK to WIN 1667 PROFIT
IGNORE THE HYPE - THIS SHOULD LOSE
but it didn't .....
Mar 10, 2014 -- 11:04PM, GraveDodger wrote:
STARTING BANK = 5000CURRENT BANK = 5000Current profit =0BET ONE = LAY ENTIRE BANK ON VAUTOUR NOT TO WIN THE 1.30 (SUPREME NOVICES)AT AROUND 5.0BET TWO = posted at 1.55pmThere are FOUR massive bets planned for Day 1. We may or may not play around with a small part of the profits as well.Vautour is the big hope for Ireland and is a remarkable 6 pounds clear top rated on bhb official ratings - for many this SEEMS like it is almost a penalty-kick.........but sometimes things are not always as straightforward as they seem to be. Gravedodger is ADAMANT that Vautour cannot win this race - he has told his friends to lay it until the blood is dripping from their nostrils. It now forms the first leg of our £30,000 challenge.Do not waste my time asking if it is also a place lay. It does not matter. All that matters is that it MUST NOT WIN. Entire bank for the week staked on the first race!!!!!!!!! Gravedodger is ever so confident that we will get a good start here. I will post again after the race.
vautour going off favourite! GL dodger
Just like last year when you "didn't participate" (you did - FACT) and disappeared very quickly
We will never know what the rest of the weeks bets where.......
aww..unlucky GD its only £30.
better luck next year
better luck next year
Love threads like this, win or lose. Better luck next year.
SIR_Bond
SIR_Bond 11 Mar 14 11:33 Joined: 14 Nov 07 | Topic/replies: 8,349 | Blogger: SIR_Bond's blog
Brave man laying this
first bet bust let's hope so
HAHAHAHAH
YOU TOTAL AND UTTER FOOL. lET ME GUESS YOU LAYED YOUR £10 OFF IN RUNNING.
Now close the door on your way out you tool
SIR_Bond 11 Mar 14 11:33 Joined: 14 Nov 07 | Topic/replies: 8,349 | Blogger: SIR_Bond's blog
Brave man laying this
first bet bust let's hope so
HAHAHAHAH
YOU TOTAL AND UTTER FOOL. lET ME GUESS YOU LAYED YOUR £10 OFF IN RUNNING.
Now close the door on your way out you tool
First bet first race = bank bust
Cheltenham over for you
Well done
Cheltenham over for you
Well done
You said ....
8. This is a special gift from me to the world and ONLY operates for Cheltenham. Please do not beg me to do this for other big meetings, or ask me to give you private bets. No matter what money you offer me, all such requests will be met with a polite refusal.
I say ... it certainly is a special gift
8. This is a special gift from me to the world and ONLY operates for Cheltenham. Please do not beg me to do this for other big meetings, or ask me to give you private bets. No matter what money you offer me, all such requests will be met with a polite refusal.
I say ... it certainly is a special gift
You wait all year for this and blow all your money in the first race 
I would like to sign up for this service full time, does anyone know to whom I send the cheque?
F A N N Y
and there will be throbbers on here that have followed in-you know who you are- the above applies to you also
I'm off to collect my Vautour winnings
and there will be throbbers on here that have followed in-you know who you are- the above applies to you also
I'm off to collect my Vautour winnings
Gravedodger is currently in the bath cooking a chicken. I'll give him a shout.
was gonna follow him ,not much point as id backed vantour and irving on the PP offer.
Shows he in reality knows no more than anyone else. Inside info my arse. If he had inside info they would have told him how a good a horse it was.
he just text:
"Is it safe to come out from under me duvet?"......
"Is it safe to come out from under me duvet?"......
Mike-lfc 11 Mar 14 14:14
Lays the best horse of the day.
???
Lays the best horse of the day.
???
I knew I should have reverse followed this full bank.
GraveDodger perhaps you should take up grave dogging, you might be good at that, at least they cant run away
just needs to say he backed the winner
for complete credibility loss
for complete credibility loss
no chance in hell he did this ....just a massive attention seeker
I think you and your overpriced cohorts should give up ............... guessing
he should have listened i thought this horse had a great chance on form , and irving was the lay off the meeting for me , not had much better luck was waiting on the new one for a nice bet , cd guess all day but i think it wd have won , crap the way it got badly hampered
Surely this thread has to be odds on already for thread of the year. if u ever feel down give this a bump. Easy for people to throw siht at sum1 but mate u hung urself out to dry. Quality viewing :-)
Surely this thread has to be odds on already for thread of the year. if u ever feel down give this a bump. Easy for people to throw siht at sum1 but mate u hung urself out to dry. Quality viewing :-)
Surely this thread has to be odds on already for thread of the year. if u ever feel down give this a bump. Easy for people to throw siht at sum1 but mate u hung urself out to dry. Quality viewing :-)
I refer you to my original comment, utter cobblers year in, year out. Took a 50/50 chance on the opening day and, as usual, f'ked it up.
GraveDodger 11 Mar 14 00:28 Joined: 10 Mar 08 | Topic/replies: 273 | Blogger: GraveDodger's blog
one of you can lay irving and another of you can back irving - what does it matter??? it's just one opinion against another
when I give a LAY it is a fact that a horse cannot win, not just an opinion - so irving wins, irving doesn't win, who cares? someone will be right and someone will be wrong!
all that really matters is VAUTOUR must not win, can not win and will not win!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
it does not bother me what wins this race, roll on bet number two at 1.55pm
WALOFS
one of you can lay irving and another of you can back irving - what does it matter??? it's just one opinion against another
when I give a LAY it is a fact that a horse cannot win, not just an opinion - so irving wins, irving doesn't win, who cares? someone will be right and someone will be wrong!
all that really matters is VAUTOUR must not win, can not win and will not win!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
it does not bother me what wins this race, roll on bet number two at 1.55pm
WALOFS
GraveDodger • March 11, 2014 12:58 PM GMT
u r a loud-mouthed ignoramus club20 and WRONG! I did not do a 5k to 30k challenge in 2013 - fact!
u r a loud-mouthed ignoramus club20 and WRONG! I did not do a 5k to 30k challenge in 2013 - fact!
Mar 11, 2014 -- 1:02PM, GraveDodger wrote:
don't worry xmx - 4 penalty kicks today and we end today with about £8500vautour CANNOT win - do not worry about it
HE SHOULD HAVE GOT SMART AND LISTENED TO BIG MART 
HA ONE OFF U CAN LAY IRVING , YES I TOLD YOU TOO , I ALSO SAID THE WINNER HAD THE BEST FORM BY A MILE , NOTICE HE BLANKED ME WHEN I ASKED WHY HE THOUGHT IT CD NOT WIN , PURE GUESSER IN MY OPINION ! HATE TOO SEE PEOPLE LOOSE , BUT THIS MUST HAVE BEEN THE WORST LAY OFF THE CENTURY , I GAVE IRVIN ZERO CHANCE , SORRY M8 ITS CRAP WHEN U LOOSE BUT SHOULD HAVE DONE BETTER HOME WORK ,THE DOGS WERE BARKING ABOUT THE WINNER 
HA ONE OFF U CAN LAY IRVING , YES I TOLD YOU TOO , I ALSO SAID THE WINNER HAD THE BEST FORM BY A MILE , NOTICE HE BLANKED ME WHEN I ASKED WHY HE THOUGHT IT CD NOT WIN , PURE GUESSER IN MY OPINION ! HATE TOO SEE PEOPLE LOOSE , BUT THIS MUST HAVE BEEN THE WORST LAY OFF THE CENTURY , I GAVE IRVIN ZERO CHANCE , SORRY M8 ITS CRAP WHEN U LOOSE BUT SHOULD HAVE DONE BETTER HOME WORK ,THE DOGS WERE BARKING ABOUT THE WINNER
the worst ones are the ones that disappear , no gonads to face the music
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6o5g2YLRVM
heres a nice cheery one
heres a nice cheery one
Think we can all guess that he'd have either said Faugheen is a massive win or lay bet, depending on side of the coin he flipped landed on. I'm fairly sure in the old days, the utter tool claimed he had inside information at Cheltenham. They were the days.
first lieutenant was gravedodgers gold cup NAP
n/r
not a good chelt
n/r
not a good chelt
bigmart 12 Mar 14 00:13
HE SHOULD HAVE GOT SMART AND LISTENED TO BIG MART HA ONE OFF U CAN LAY IRVING , YES I TOLD YOU TOO , I ALSO SAID THE WINNER HAD THE BEST FORM BY A MILE , NOTICE HE BLANKED ME WHEN I ASKED WHY HE THOUGHT IT CD NOT WIN , PURE GUESSER IN MY OPINION ! HATE TOO SEE PEOPLE LOOSE , BUT THIS MUST HAVE BEEN THE WORST LAY OFF THE CENTURY , I GAVE IRVIN ZERO CHANCE , SORRY M8 ITS CRAP WHEN U LOOSE BUT SHOULD HAVE DONE BETTER HOME WORK ,THE DOGS WERE BARKING ABOUT THE WINNER
Like root canal treatment
HE SHOULD HAVE GOT SMART AND LISTENED TO BIG MART HA ONE OFF U CAN LAY IRVING , YES I TOLD YOU TOO , I ALSO SAID THE WINNER HAD THE BEST FORM BY A MILE , NOTICE HE BLANKED ME WHEN I ASKED WHY HE THOUGHT IT CD NOT WIN , PURE GUESSER IN MY OPINION ! HATE TOO SEE PEOPLE LOOSE , BUT THIS MUST HAVE BEEN THE WORST LAY OFF THE CENTURY , I GAVE IRVIN ZERO CHANCE , SORRY M8 ITS CRAP WHEN U LOOSE BUT SHOULD HAVE DONE BETTER HOME WORK ,THE DOGS WERE BARKING ABOUT THE WINNER
Like root canal treatment
I notice Rico gets a mention .... " Ignorant sorts who write " Post your bets" will be duly ignored and blocked. 
Yes ,he seems like a real life Donald from the TV series Benidorm but a lot more sinister.
someone should do a grazedtodger annual 50 pound to fook all chelt festival thread for old times sake!and to cheer the forum up when it goes tits !
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