Forums
Welcome to Live View – Take the tour to learn more
Start Tour
There is currently 1 person viewing this thread.
Cork Langer
23 Feb 14 19:41
Joined:
Date Joined: 16 Aug 05
| Topic/replies: 38,396 | Blogger: Cork Langer's blog
Hopefully enough warning being given, so that everyone can get their memories clicking into gear in good time...!

Will follow same format as last few, will post a question and give a certain time limit for answers to be posted, if answered correctly before time up, we will move straight on with the next question of course.
Pause Switch to Standard View Cheltenham Quiz - Sunday 9th March...
Show More
Loading...
Report Gordon63 March 9, 2014 9:42 PM GMT
could be that one - francome, Linley and someone else?
Report Know Won Nose March 9, 2014 9:42 PM GMT
Albertas Run
Report Cork Langer March 9, 2014 9:43 PM GMT
Correct

Albertas Run
Report Cork Langer March 9, 2014 9:43 PM GMT
Hurts that one of my biggest winners is the last to be revealed...!
Report ged March 9, 2014 9:44 PM GMT
Am I missing something? why not Flyingbolt, Bula and L'Escargot?
Report cabbage patch March 9, 2014 9:45 PM GMT
i know Johnson and tizzard won on flagship - dont know if he won 3 times?
Report Gordon63 March 9, 2014 9:45 PM GMT
so only one to come and if one of those already mentioned has three different riders then I guess it has to be badsworth boy but I remember it as earnshaws ride
Report Cork Langer March 9, 2014 9:45 PM GMT
All 3 are double winners ged not triple
Report Know Won Nose March 9, 2014 9:46 PM GMT
ID only ridden to victory by two though Graham Lee and Paddy Brennan
You sure about that CL?
Report ged March 9, 2014 9:47 PM GMT
so why does Hardy Eustace count then?
Report Gordon63 March 9, 2014 9:47 PM GMT
he won three times - sun alliance hurdle and two champions
Report Cork Langer March 9, 2014 9:48 PM GMT
The missing one is the other with 3 riders, Half Free was the first as suggested by Gordon
Report ged March 9, 2014 9:48 PM GMT
Well FB, Bula and 'Escargot all won 3 times.
Report Gordon63 March 9, 2014 9:48 PM GMT
who was the 3rd rider of half free?
Report Cork Langer March 9, 2014 9:49 PM GMT
Linley, Sherwood and Scudamore for Half Free
Report Know Won Nose March 9, 2014 9:50 PM GMT
Pearlyman
Report Cork Langer March 9, 2014 9:51 PM GMT
Your knowledge is greater than mine ged, only have them listed as double winners on my stats, perhaps some discontinued races have been omitted in error
Report Cork Langer March 9, 2014 9:52 PM GMT
Correct Pearlyman
Report cabbage patch March 9, 2014 9:52 PM GMT
has it been mentioned?
Report Know Won Nose March 9, 2014 9:52 PM GMT
Brad Scu and Tom Morgan
Report ged March 9, 2014 9:52 PM GMT
They all won a division of the Gloucester Hurdle/Supreme Novices.
Report Cork Langer March 9, 2014 9:56 PM GMT
That may explain it then, could be that the stats I have only take one and not both races.

Similarly, Know Won Nose, three riders correct for Inglis Drever, looks like I'll have to sack the input staff...!
Report Cork Langer March 9, 2014 9:58 PM GMT
Nearly finished...!

Q31) Sixteen jockeys have had 10 or more Festival winners, three jockeys finished their careers stuck on 9, who are they?

Clue, dates of 1st and last wins, 1983 to 1998, 1976 to 1986, 1983 to 1996

Time 5 minutes or as soon as answered correctly.
Report cabbage patch March 9, 2014 10:00 PM GMT
Bradley
Report Gordon63 March 9, 2014 10:00 PM GMT
francome
Report Cork Langer March 9, 2014 10:00 PM GMT
Correct

Graham Bradley
Report Gordon63 March 9, 2014 10:00 PM GMT
mark dwyer
Report Cork Langer March 9, 2014 10:00 PM GMT
Correct

Mark Dwyer
Report Gordon63 March 9, 2014 10:01 PM GMT
scudamore
Report Gordon63 March 9, 2014 10:01 PM GMT
dunwoody
Report Gordon63 March 9, 2014 10:02 PM GMT
jonjo
Report Cork Langer March 9, 2014 10:03 PM GMT
Correct

Jonjo O'Neill
Report Cork Langer March 9, 2014 10:03 PM GMT
Q32) Twenty one trainers have made it into double figures at the Festival, three of them got stuck on 9, who are they?


Clue, dates of 1st and last wins, 1980 to 1990, 1968 to 1978, 1964 to 1998

Time 5 minutes or as soon as answered correctly.
Report Gordon63 March 9, 2014 10:04 PM GMT
rimell
Report Gordon63 March 9, 2014 10:04 PM GMT
fitzgerald
Report Gordon63 March 9, 2014 10:05 PM GMT
nicholson
Report cabbage patch March 9, 2014 10:05 PM GMT
gifford
Report Gordon63 March 9, 2014 10:06 PM GMT
gordon richards
Report Gordon63 March 9, 2014 10:06 PM GMT
peter easterby
Report cabbage patch March 9, 2014 10:06 PM GMT
turnell (bob)
Report Cork Langer March 9, 2014 10:10 PM GMT
Clues

Heighlin will identify him

Double barrelled surname, son trained as well

This man was a Captain
Report Gordon63 March 9, 2014 10:10 PM GMT
elsworth
Report Gordon63 March 9, 2014 10:10 PM GMT
thomson jones
Report Gordon63 March 9, 2014 10:10 PM GMT
price
Report cabbage patch March 9, 2014 10:11 PM GMT
you've gone quiet on us CL - think we need help!!

Tim Forster?
Report Cork Langer March 9, 2014 10:11 PM GMT
Correct

Elsworth
Thomson Jones
Forster
Report Cork Langer March 9, 2014 10:12 PM GMT
Was just grabbing a comfort break cabbage...!
Report Cork Langer March 9, 2014 10:13 PM GMT
Q33) Three jockeys have managed to get into double figures for number of Festival winners without recording a success in either the Gold Cup, Champion Hurdle or Triumph Hurdle, who are they?

Time 5 minutes or as soon as answered correctly.
Report Know Won Nose March 9, 2014 10:14 PM GMT
Davy Russell
Report Cork Langer March 9, 2014 10:14 PM GMT
Hint, two are still riding and one is now a trainer
Report Cork Langer March 9, 2014 10:14 PM GMT
Correct

Davy Russell
Report Know Won Nose March 9, 2014 10:16 PM GMT
Paul Carberry
Report Cork Langer March 9, 2014 10:16 PM GMT
Correct

Paul Carberry
Report Cork Langer March 9, 2014 10:17 PM GMT
Clue this guy's favourite drink might be a J2O
Report cabbage patch March 9, 2014 10:18 PM GMT
dunwoody. llewellyn. osborne
Report Cork Langer March 9, 2014 10:18 PM GMT
Correct

Jamie Osborne
Report Cork Langer March 9, 2014 10:19 PM GMT
Q34) Two trainers have managed to get into double figures for number of Festival winners without recording a success in either the Gold Cup, Champion Hurdle or Triumph Hurdle, who are they?

Time 5 minutes or as soon as answered correctly.
Report Gordon63 March 9, 2014 10:19 PM GMT
josh gifford
Report Cork Langer March 9, 2014 10:20 PM GMT
Correct

Josh Gifford
Report Gordon63 March 9, 2014 10:22 PM GMT
oliver sherwood, venetia, noel meade
Report Know Won Nose March 9, 2014 10:23 PM GMT
Eddie o Grady
Report Cork Langer March 9, 2014 10:24 PM GMT
Hint, one of his best horses has been mentioned numerous times already tonight and he nearly had a big yahoo...!
Report Cork Langer March 9, 2014 10:26 PM GMT
Time up

No takers for John Edwards
Report Cork Langer March 9, 2014 10:28 PM GMT
The last question, thank god you all say....!

Q35) Triple 777…! Three jockeys who each rode 7 winners at the Festival, included in their tally a Gold Cup each, they then went onto train winners at the Festival as well, who are they?

Time 5 minutes or as soon as answered correctly.
Report Gordon63 March 9, 2014 10:29 PM GMT
simon sherwood
Report Cork Langer March 9, 2014 10:29 PM GMT
Correct

Simon Sherwood
Report cabbage patch March 9, 2014 10:30 PM GMT
Culloty
Report Gordon63 March 9, 2014 10:30 PM GMT
mark pitman
Report Gordon63 March 9, 2014 10:31 PM GMT
tommy carberry
Report onlooker March 9, 2014 10:31 PM GMT
Phil Tuck
Report Cork Langer March 9, 2014 10:32 PM GMT
No to Culloty, Pitman, Tuck, Carberry
Report Gordon63 March 9, 2014 10:32 PM GMT
dessie hughes
Report Cork Langer March 9, 2014 10:32 PM GMT
Correct

Dessie Hughes
Report onlooker March 9, 2014 10:33 PM GMT
Ridley Lamb
Report cabbage patch March 9, 2014 10:33 PM GMT
Maguire
Report Cork Langer March 9, 2014 10:33 PM GMT
The missing man was a bit of an amateur really...!
Report Gordon63 March 9, 2014 10:33 PM GMT
jim wilson
Report Cork Langer March 9, 2014 10:34 PM GMT
Correct

A (Jim) Wilson
Report Cork Langer March 9, 2014 10:35 PM GMT
That's it folks, will post all Q & A and scores soonest, thanks to everyone who took part or looked in, now for a drink...!
Report Know Won Nose March 9, 2014 10:37 PM GMT
Great quiz CL. Well Done.
Report Gordon63 March 9, 2014 10:37 PM GMT
well done CL - been a long night, hoping for some memories this week to rank alongside some of the greats mentioned here
Report cabbage patch March 9, 2014 10:39 PM GMT
Cheers Cork - now I can focus on the golf!!!

Great entertainment - thank you and GL for this year's Chelts

Cheers to everyone else too (first finger first ..... not me!!)
Report Cork Langer March 9, 2014 10:52 PM GMT
Q1) The running of the 1983 Neptune Investments Hurdle could perhaps be rated the best so far given the winner Sabin Du Loir beat placed horses who later won a Champion Hurdle, Cheltenham Gold Cup and Grand National between them, name the placed horses? Time 4 minutes or as soon as answered correctly.

Answer: 2nd Dawn Run, Champion Hurdle winner 1984, Cheltenham Gold Cup winner 1986
3rd West Tip Grand National winner 1986

Q2) Trainer and former jockey Andy Turnell was always the each way man rather than the winner when it came to the Champion & Stayers Hurdle races at Cheltenham, name his 7 placed efforts, 5 in the Champion and 2 in the Stayers? Time 5 minutes or as soon as answered correctly.

Answer:
1968 Chorus 2nd CH to Persian War
1975 Tree Tangle 3rd CH to Comedy of Errors
1976 Birds Nest 2nd CH to Night Nurse
1979 Beacon Light 3rd CH to Monksfield
1980 Birds Nest 3rd CH to Sea Pigeon
1980 Derring Rose 3rd Stayers to Mount Rivers
1982 Hill of Slane 2nd Stayers to Crimson Embers

Q3) There have been only 3 horses 20/1 or above to have won the Champion Chase since 1960, name them? Time 4 minutes or as soon as answered correctly.

Answer: 1980 Another Dolly 33/1
1981 Drumgora 25/1
2006 Newmill 20/1

Q4) Name the 10 horses who have won the Arkle and gone onto win the Champion Chase? Time 6 minutes or as soon as answered correctly.

Answer: 1963 Ben Stack, won the 1964 Champion
1965 Flyingbolt, won the 1966 Champion
1991 Remittance Man, won the 1992 Champion
1995 KIairon Davis, won the 1996 Champion
1999 Flagship Uberalles, won the 2002 Champion
2002 Moscow Flyer, won the 2003 and 2005 Champion
2003 Azertyuiop, won the 2004 Champion
2006 Vor Puy Ustedes, won the 2007 Champion
2010 Sizing Europe, won the 2011 Champion
2012 Sprinter Sacre, won the 2013 Champion

Q5) Who completed the unusual double of an Arkle Chase and a Stayers Hurdle? Time 3 minutes or as soon as answered correctly.

Answer: My Way de Solzen, 2006 Stayers and 2007 Arkle

Q6) Name the two Triumph Hurdle runners up who later won the Champion Hurdle? Time 4 minutes or as soon as answered correctly.

Answer: Monksfield 2nd 1976 Triumph 1st 1978/79 Champion Hurdle
See You Then 2nd 1984 Triumph 1st 1985/86/87 Champion Hurdle

Q7) Who won the Mildmay of Flete Chase for one trainer and the Grand National for another, name the horse and respective trainers? Time 5 minutes or as soon as answered correctly.

Answer: Specify 1969 Mildmay for Denis Rayson 1971 Grand National for John Sutcliffe

Q8) Name predominantly Flat trainer James Fanshawe’s three Cheltenham winners? Time 3 minutes or as soon as answered correctly.

Answer: Royal Gait 1991 Champion Hurdle
Hors La Loi 111 2002 Champion Hurdle
Reveillez 2006 Jewson Novice Chase

Q9) This horse was the beaten favourite in the Festival bumper before going onto record a Group 1 victory on the flat the following year, name the horse? Time 2 minutes or as soon as answered correctly.

Answer: Rite of Passage 3rd 2009 bumper, 1st 2010 Ascot Gold Cup

Q10) Nearly everyone remembers Galileo winning at the Festival, the year after its namesake won the Epsom Derby, there is another Cheltenham winner who also had the same name as an Epsom Derby winner, what was the name? Time 4 minutes or as soon as answered correctly.

Answer: Motivator winner of the 1986 Pertemps Final, 2005 Derby

Bonus) Sort out these anagrams to reveal three jockeys who had near misses a plenty at the Festival but failed to record a single victory between them, also identify what links them?

1)    Bathroom Prince    2) Fertile Branch   3) Plucky Beat

Answer: 1) Robert Champion 2) Brian Fletcher 3) Pat Buckley
All rode Grand National winners

Q11) Name the five horses placed in the Royal Sun Alliance Chase who went onto later win the Cheltenham Gold Cup, one in each decade 60’s onwards? Time 5 minutes or as soon as answered correctly.

Answer: 1964 Fort Leney 2nd 1964 RSA won the 1968 Gold Cup
1979 Silver Buck 3rd RSA won the 1982 Gold Cup
1984 Forgive N’Forget 2nd RSA won the 1985 Gold Cup
1996 Mr Mulligan 2nd RSA won the 1997 Gold Cup
2010 Long Run 3rd RSA won the 2011 Gold Cup

Q12) Three horses have started favourite in the Champion Chase in consecutive years and been beaten on both occasions, name the three horses? Time 4 minutes or as soon as answered correctly.

Answer: 1962 (1/2) 1963 (40/85) Scottish Memories finished 2nd both times
1985 (4/6) 1986 (7/4) Bobsline unplaced both times
2010 (4/5) 2011 (2/1) Master Minded finished 4th and unplaced

Q13) Name the 2 horses to complete the Stayers Hurdle and RSA Chase double? Time 3 minutes or as soon as answered correctly.

Answer: Clever Scot 1971 Stayers Hurdle 1972 RSA Chase
A Kinsman 1983 Stayers Hurdle 1984 RSA Chase

Q14) Name the four Festival Trophy winners who went onto win the Grand National? Time 5 minutes or as soon as answered correctly.

Answer: Team Spirit 1963 Festival Trophy 1964 Grand National
West Tip 1985 Festival Trophy 1986 Grand National
Seagram 1991 Festival Trophy 1991 Grand National
Rough Quest 1995 Festival Trophy 1996 Grand National

Q15) Dual Champion Chase winner Pearlyman beat the same two horses into 2nd and 3rd  albeit they swapped places in the second running, who were they? Time 4 minutes or as soon as answered correctly.

Answer: Very Promising and Desert Orchid 1987 & 1988

Q16) Name the four horses trained by Peter Easterby to make the frame in the Gold Cup? Time 4 minutes or as soon as answered correctly.

Answer: Alverton 1979 1st
Little Owl 1981 1st
Night Nurse 1981 2nd
Cybrandian 1987 2nd

Q17)  For a jockey who many believe has limited ability, Andrew Thornton has a 1st, 2nd and 3rd Gold Cup placing on his CV, name the horses? Time 3 minutes or as soon as answered correctly.

Answer: Cool Dawn 1998 1st
Sir Rembrandt 2004 2nd 2005 3rd
   
Q18) Leaving aside races they are not eligible for, one Festival race has eluded all of the big three of McCoy, Walsh and Geraghty, name the race? Time 3 minutes or as soon as answered correctly.

Answer: Cross Country Chase

Q19) The big 3 of Henderson, Mullins and Nicholls have between them won all the races at the Festival bar 2, name them? Time 3 minutes or as soon as answered correctly.

Answer: Cross Country Chase and the Pertemps Final H’cap Hurdle

Q20) Of the 17 winners Charlie Swan rode at the Festival, one was different to the others for two reasons, who was the horse and what were the reasons? Time 4 minutes or as soon as answered correctly.

Answer: Viking Flagship 1995 Champion Chase, his only chase winner and his only win for an English trainer (David Nicholson)

Bonus) Rearrange the letters to reveal 5 horses that have participated in the Gold Cup and identify the common link between them.

1)    Psychiatric ant 2) Loyal chops 3) Task a rout 4) A mill caliper 5) Mabel Brown ran

Answer: They all started favourite and failed to finish

1)    Captain Christy 2) Playschool 3) Kauto Star 4) Imperial Call 5) Bannow Rambler



Q21) Once in the 80’s and once in the 90’s, the same trainer/jockey combinations had the beaten fav in consecutive years running of the Mildmay. Name the two pairs and the four horses? Time 5 minutes or as soon as correctly answered.
Answer: 1987 Joint Sovereignty 4/1f finished fourth, 1988 Comeragh King 7/2f finished third, trainer Jimmy Fitzgerald, jockey Mark Dwyer
1991 Al Hashimi 3/1f finished unplaced, 1992 Another Coral 13/2jf finished unplaced, trainer David Nicholson, jockey Richard Dunwoody

Q22) The Neptune Investments Hurdle has proven a stepping stone for three horses placed 4th to go onto Grand National success later in their career, name them? Time 5 minutes or as soon as correctly answered.
Answer: 1975 Aldaniti won 1981 Grand National
2000 Bindaree won 2002 Grand National
2004 Comply or Die won 2008 Grand National

Q23) Name the two shortest priced winners of The Mildmay of Flete, both returned below 2/1? Time 3 minutes or as soon as answered correctly.

Answer: 1981 Political Pop 15/8, 1999 Majadou 7/4

Q24) Name the 6 people who have both trained and ridden a solitary winner at the Festival, training and riding the same horse does not count. Time 10 minutes or as soon as answered correctly.

Answer:
Bill Shand Kydd rode Foreman 1973 NH Chase trained Black Baize 1971 Kim Muir
Ian Balding rode Time 1963 NH Chase trained Crystal Spirit 1991 Neptune
James Moffatt rode Home Counties 1995 County trained Chief Dan George 2010 Festival Trophy
Peter Brookshaw rode Double Negative 1977 Kim Muir trained Fealty 1984 Neptune
Philip Fenton rode Loving Around 1996 NH Chase trained Dunguib 2009 Bumper
Keiran Burke rode Holmwood Legend 2011 Byrne trained Hunt Ball 2012 Centenary

Q25) A number of horses that have run in the Bumper have gone on to record victories at later Festivals (20 in total), name the 3 horses that have won more than once at the Festival? Time 5 minutes or as soon as answered correctly.

Answer: Albertas Run 3, Buena Vista 2, Wichita Lineman 2

Q26) Only two horses have appeared in the Bumper in consecutive years (both placed on both occasions), name them? Time 5 minutes or as soon as answered correctly.

Answer: Rhythm Section 1st 1993, 4th 1994 & Refinement 2nd 2004, 4th 2005

Q27) Looking for the “Dirty Dozen” Group 1 flat race winning jockeys that have ridden in the Festival Bumper, you need to think predominantly Irish with just the one exception? Time 10 minutes or as soon as answered correctly.

Answer: Fran Berry, Jamie Spencer, Johnny Murtagh, Joseph O’Brien, Kevin Manning, Kieren Fallon, Pat Shanahan, Pat Smullen, Richard Hughes, Seamie Heffernan, Stephen Craine, Michael Hills.

Q28) Name the 4 people to have ridden winners of the Gold Cup and Champion Hurdle to then go on and train a Cheltenham Festival winner? Time 5 minutes or as soon as answered correctly.

Answer: Dessie Hughes, Fred Winter, Jonjo O’Neill & Paul Kelleway

Q29) Name the flat jockeys (besides Graham Lee) who have ridden a winner over obstacles at the Festival? There are six to choose from. Time 5 minutes or as soon as answered correctly.

Answer: Geordie Ramshaw 65 Triumph on Blarney Beacon
Hadden Frost 10 Pertemps on Buena Vista
Fran Berry 99 Coral Cup on Khayrawani
Shaun Keightley 89 Pertemps on Rogers Princess
Davy Condon 07 Supreme on Ebaziyan and 13 Fred Winter on Flaxen Flare
Paul Townend 11 Fred Winter on What A Charm

Q30) The “Niners Club” consists of  9 trainers who have had one Cheltenham winner to go with their full house of English Group Flat races ie G1, G2 & G3 victories. An educated guess should identify 6 of these, 2 should take some thinking about and 1 will be rewarded with triple points if anyone gets it, as they will more than deserve it in my book. Time 10 minutes or as soon as answered correctly.

Answer: Barry Hills, Nomadic Way 1992 Stayers Hurdle
Dermot Weld, Rare Holiday 1990 Triumph Hurdle
Gavin Pritchard-Gordon, King Pele 1973 Supreme Novices
Hughie Morrison, Frenchmans Creek 2002 Festival Trophy
Ian Balding, Crystal Spirit 1991 Neptune Investments
Mick Easterby, Peterhof 1976 Triumph Hurdle
Paul Kelleway, Asir 1985 Neptune Investments
Tim Easterby, Barton 1999 Neptune Investments
Tommy Stack, My View 1992 Pertemps Final

Bonus) There have been numerous multiple winners at the Festival from double winners (97) to quadruple winners (5) and of course Quevega all alone on five. There are 10 triple winners, your job is to identify said 10 and tell me which 2 were ridden by different jockeys to each of their respective victories?
(Note correction, there were 3 not 2 and at least 3 other triple winners who won Divisions of the Gloucestershire Hdl omitted in error when inputting data) 

Answer: Alberta’s Run, Badsworth Boy, Best Mate, Bobs Worth, Half Free, Hardy Eustace, Inglis Drever, Moscow Flyer, Pearlyman, See You Then
Half Free, Richard Linley, Simon Sherwood, Peter Scudamore
Pearlyman, Graham Bradley, Peter Scudamore, Tom Morgan
Inglis Drever, Graham Lee, Paddy Brennan, Denis O'Regan


 
Q31) Sixteen jockeys have had 10 or more Festival winners, three jockeys finished their careers stuck on 9, who are they?

Clue, dates of 1st and last wins, 1983 to 1998, 1976 to 1986, 1983 to 1996 Time 5 minutes or as soon as answered correctly.

Answer: Graham Bradley, Jonjo O’Neill, Mark Dwyer

Q32) Twenty one trainers have made it into double figures at the Festival, three of them got stuck on 9, who are they?


Clue, dates of 1st and last wins, 1980 to 1990, 1968 to 1978, 1964 to 1998 Time 5 minutes or as soon as answered correctly.

Answer: David Elsworth, Harry Thomson Jones, Tim Forster

Q33) Three jockeys have managed to get into double figures for number of Festival winners without recording a success in either the Gold Cup, Champion Hurdle or Triumph Hurdle, who are they? Time 5 minutes or as soon as answered correctly.

Answer: Davy Russell (10) Jamie Osborne (11) Paul Carberry (13)

Q34) Two trainers have managed to get into double figures for number of Festival winners without recording a success in either the Gold Cup, Champion Hurdle or Triumph Hurdle, who are they? Time 5 minutes or as soon as answered correctly.

Answer: Josh Gifford (10) John Edwards (12)

Q35) Triple 777…! Three jockeys who each rode 7 winners at the Festival, included in their tally  a Gold Cup each, then went onto train winners at the Festival as well, who are they? Time 5 minutes or as soon as answered correctly.

Answer: Dessie Hughes, Davy Lad 77 Gold Cup trained 5 winners
A.(Jim).Wilson, Little Owl 81 Gold Cup trained 1 winner
Simon Sherwood, Desert Orchid 89 Gold Cup trained 2 winners
Report onlooker March 9, 2014 10:57 PM GMT
Tremendous effort - Cork Langer

I only hope that your extensive Cheltenham knowledge helps/enables you to find a few winners this week -

- which you richly deserve after compiling all those questions.
Report Fabulous March 9, 2014 11:17 PM GMT
Great effort CL, can't believe it went on to that time, if I had stayed on she'd have kicked my head in Laugh

Have a great Cheltenham CL, and everyone else.
Report Cork Langer March 10, 2014 12:12 AM GMT
Thanks to all for their kind words, apologies for the time it took, we seemed to breeze through the first twenty or so, gives me a better idea of what type of question to concentrate on for future ventures though.

So to the scores

1st Gordon63 50
2nd Fabulous 34
3rd Know Won Nose 27
4th Cabbage Patch 11
5th Sixtwosix & Onlooker 6
7th Stewarts rise & Penzance 5
9th Elise 4
10th Mustapha Bath 3
11th Punchestown 2

Congratulations to Gordon63 on winning and to Fabulous who missed the second half of questions and still grabbed second.
Full marks to everyone who scored and to all who tried or looked in, my best wishes to each and everyone of you for a successful and profitable Festival, good luck to all.
Report theonlywayforward March 10, 2014 12:40 AM GMT
Well organized cork and hopefully you have a bit of luck after your fine effort there.
Report Cork Langer March 10, 2014 12:50 AM GMT
Cheers towf, you know me, don't play that many, fingers crossed those I do will oblige...!

Good luck with your own chosen selections,
Report theonlywayforward March 10, 2014 1:03 AM GMT
Not really for me cork as you nh boys are more onto it but am interested in the big race on tuesday as have been to most of the big festivals in the world and for sure the parade fks the inexperienced horse so a layers dream as they have ran their race before it starts.For sure you can trust me on that.Best of luck anyhow as the real value always lies in the handicaps which is always true on the flat.
Report theonlywayforward March 10, 2014 1:15 AM GMT
My eyes will be on our connor and the new one and any fault in the preliminary will be a massive negative to their respective chance.
Report mange March 10, 2014 6:59 AM GMT
Well done Cork...............fast fingers on ere....leaves me miles behind........not that id av done any good Laugh
Report Gordon63 March 10, 2014 7:13 AM GMT
thanks again CL - brings back pleasant festival memories, must be getting old though because I can't help thinking the 'olden' days were the golden era, or maybe it's the over-riding feeling that it all changed when it went to 4 days.  I was never a big ante-post man but the increase in novice options (notwithstanding the handicaps which they can also enter) and the ryanair taking runners from both CH and GC, definitely has diluted the quality and the WPM 'spread them out' approach has further contributed.  oh well rant over, i'll still be studying hard from this evening onwards and stuck to couch/tv like a limpet for next four days - good luck all!
Report ged March 10, 2014 8:24 AM GMT
Great effort Cork (and answerers). Well done with all the research and the prompting and the running.

(For Q13 you might have considered Solfen, who won both races in the same year).
Report penzance March 10, 2014 9:40 AM GMT
wd,Cork Langer
GL
Report Cork Langer March 10, 2014 12:35 PM GMT
Thanks guys for your kind words.

ged, I did have Solfen as a qualifier but left it out as on the data input it showed different trainer and jockey combinations for the two victories which made me suspicious and as I was unable to check it out, felt it best to omit.
For the RSA it had Dreaper/Taaffe and for the Stayers O'Grady/Beasley.

Best of luck to everyone for a winning week and hopefully casualties will be minimal (equine and human...!).
Report ged March 10, 2014 1:00 PM GMT
Fair enough CL.

I see him being trained by Willie O'Grady for both. He won the Broadway on Wednesday (5/4 fav, by 25 lengths, ridden by Pat Taaffe), and won the Spa Hurdle at the top of the card on the Thursday (5/2 fav, by a hard fought length, ridden by Bobby Beasley - who was a late booking, presumably with a doubt about the horse running 2 days in a row - Pat Taaffe was on another, Tubbercosh, I don't know who for).
Report ged March 10, 2014 1:10 PM GMT
Just for interest (apologies if none), here's a piece by Ged Walsh (not me!!) about Solfen from the RP from a few years ago, (though there's at least 1 error in it - it says the Broadway was on the opening day, but it wasn't, so the horse did not have 'a day off', and it also says Johnny Haine rode him in the Spa - the Glasgow Herald results says H Beasley). Anyway, I'm sure some of it is correct!! :-


Ged Walsh on two Festival successes for Solfen

THE anticipation of a horse going to Cheltenham, never mind winning, was no less in 1960 than it is now.

Every year, many horses in October are touted as 'Cheltenham winners'. But by the time March comes along, many have not reached their earlier promise or have 'gone wrong' through one ailment or another. Stable stars are unstable.

In a stable near Thurles, in the village of Ballynonty, WT 'Willie' O'Grady had such a potential horse in Solfen.

Willie was born and reared in Little Island, County Cork, where his father bred and trained some horses with modest success.

He rode as an amateur at an early age, then turned professional, being Irish jumps champion in 1934 and 1935, having a 40.5 per cent win-to-rides ratio in the former year.

In the 1940s he began training, and had a steady stream of winners. But Ireland in the 1950s was not the Ireland of today, and it was hard to keep a stable going. Debts had mounted but were relieved by a nice coup on Rockbottom at Roscommon in 1957.

That year, a gentleman named Barney Naughton asked Willie to find him a horse. The horse bought was by Soladalo out of Fenora, and they named him Solfen.

He won twice at Limerick in 1958 and again in 1959. He won again at Leopardstown on January 15, 1960, then it was on to Cheltenham.

Solfen won the Broadway Steeplechase (now the Royal & SunAlliance) on the opening day of the Festival, ridden by Pat Taaffe, and then had a day off.

He was brought out again the next day and won the Spa (now World) Hurdle, ridden by Johnny Haine, and came home to a hero's welcome.

Willie continued to train until his untimely death, and he and his wife Mary bred many winners too. But perhaps the one he would be most proud of is his son, who has continued to turn out the winners from the same stable.

Willie's son is, of course, Edward O'Grady.

GED WALSH

Rathgar

Dublin
Report ged March 10, 2014 1:25 PM GMT
Here's another vote for Bobby Beasley as the 2nd jock, (from www.clontuskert.com), in a piece about Barney Naughton, the owner of Solfen:-


Bernard (Barney) Naughton was born at Loughill, Creagh, Ballinasloe in 1902. The son of a farming family, he was the second youngest of a family of eleven.

A well-known farmer, livestock dealer, bookmaker, horse owner, he purchased his farm at Abbey Park, Clontuskert in 1943 from winning bets on one of his first horses, Mr. Wilts. He was an astute judge of livestock and horses. From the 1940s until his death in 1977 he owned thorough-bred horses that won him in the region of eighty-five races.

In 1960, his horse Solfen made racing history at the three-day Cheltenham Racing Festival. The horse won a three mile chase on Day Two and a three mile hurdle on Day Three. Solfen's first race, the Broadway Novices Chase - now the Royal & Sun Alliance Chase - was noteworthy in that the eight year old gelding romped home by twenty-five lengths. Solfen was ridden by Pat Taaffe and twenty-one horses ran.

As Solfen was not the easiest horse to keep right and ready to race, (he suffered from leg problems) the owner and trainer Willie O'Grady decided to run him again as he was fresh and well after the first race. Within twenty-two hours he ran in the Spa Hurdle - now the Ladbroke World Hurdle - and with H.R. (Bobby) Beasley in the saddle, he won by one length and six lengths in a field of twenty-one runners.




...I'll keep quiet now...!
Report Cork Langer March 10, 2014 1:55 PM GMT
Interesting additional info ged, by coincidence the place the O'Grady dynasty started, Little Island, is only a few miles from me, though of course it is vastly different now, being a hive of activity with numerous companies having based themselves there in all the different business parks that now have taken over Little Island.
Think it is safe to say that Dreaper on my data was the incorrect detail, and that Beasley rode it on the second occasion, have adjusted my records as I have for the Gloucestershire Hurdle Divisions, thanks for all your guidance and help.
Report ged March 10, 2014 2:35 PM GMT
Cheers Cork.

(I lied - one more comment - I don't know from whence Ged Walsh got his idea about Johnny Haine riding Solfen in the Spa Hurdle, but it seems highly unlikely, as he'd only have been 17 at the time, and even if he had by then become a jumps jockey, he would surely have been a claimer in 1960, and highly unlikely to be selected by an Irish trainer to ride his star horse, especially with Bobby Beasley available and in his prime (riding Roddy Owen in the Gold Cup an hour later). In Johnny Haine's obit, it lists his first big winner as Buona Notte in the '63 Gloucestershire Hurdle. The Spa Hurdle might not have been one of the main events of the festival, but it would still surely count as a 'big' winner.)
Post Your Reply
<CTRL+Enter> to submit
Please login to post a reply.

Wonder

Instance ID: 13539
www.betfair.com