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Wesdag
09 Jan 14 12:42
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If so, lets hope it's a change for the better.
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Report Princes Purple Guitar January 9, 2014 12:45 PM GMT
yup...fingers crossed Wes!
Report Darlo Bantam January 9, 2014 12:49 PM GMT
When the LV was down before Christmas, I had to use the Sportsbook videos and they seemed to be of this type, and secondly much better.
Report Wesdag January 9, 2014 12:49 PM GMT
Hi bus,

certainly hope so, although saying that things have improved a lot since the bad old days of mid 2012 when bcm2 was a forum regular!!
Report loper January 9, 2014 12:53 PM GMT
Looks promising!
Report bilbobaggins January 9, 2014 12:53 PM GMT
I get -'To view this video you will need to install the latest version of Flash player'. I have a MAc - how the heck do I do this?
Report Deltâ January 9, 2014 12:54 PM GMT
fire up ya commodore bilbo - will be ok on that
Report bilbobaggins January 9, 2014 12:55 PM GMT
What?
Report loper January 9, 2014 12:55 PM GMT
Not an expert, Bilbo, but google it then downoad and install?
Report tomhunt January 9, 2014 12:56 PM GMT
I use chrome as browser on mac think that has flash built in,will have a look
Report bilbobaggins January 9, 2014 12:56 PM GMT
I've done that and for the latest version you have to have IOS 10.6 or higher. I have 10.5.8. This is ridiculous.
Report rcing January 9, 2014 12:56 PM GMT
Laugh delta

will it work on an Atari 520ST ?
Report bilbobaggins January 9, 2014 12:57 PM GMT
Thanks tom.
Report Biscar Two from a mile back January 9, 2014 12:57 PM GMT
what about my zx spectrum 48k please
Report Deltâ January 9, 2014 12:57 PM GMT
rcing,

I'll just pop up the loft and see, stand by...
Report tomhunt January 9, 2014 12:57 PM GMT
yep playing fine here bilbo
Report Deltâ January 9, 2014 12:58 PM GMT
Biscar

Computer sayed no!
Report tomhunt January 9, 2014 12:59 PM GMT
have to software update then bud
Report bilbobaggins January 9, 2014 1:18 PM GMT
Many thanks for your help Tom. Yeah I've just had to purchase the new operating system. I'll let you know - if the pics are better hope it'll be worth it.
Report tomhunt January 9, 2014 1:21 PM GMT
No worries bilbo,glad you got it all sorted.
Report duffy January 9, 2014 1:23 PM GMT
The new lv hasn't slowed the pics down thankfully, but it is a bit more sticky and it uses up more cpu, that's just initial impression.
Report tomhunt January 9, 2014 1:24 PM GMT
agree it is more choppy but if it's even a split second faster I will take that.
Report duffy January 9, 2014 1:27 PM GMT
It's not faster IMO.....I differ, I'd have it a split second slower for a smoother picture, it's harder to gauge things developing if it's slow slow quick quick slow through the race.
Report dustybin January 9, 2014 1:42 PM GMT
its the same as daq, but they have given options
the low bandwidth 0.5 buffer jutters just like it does on daq, the 1 second buffer makes it smooth and identical to daq
Report tomhunt January 9, 2014 1:43 PM GMT
cheers dusty
Report Wesdag January 9, 2014 1:44 PM GMT
Good spot there dusty. At least people can now adjust according to their own preference.
Report rcing January 9, 2014 1:45 PM GMT
dusty , is there much of a difference speed wise between the 0.5 - 1 second buffer ?
Report duffy January 9, 2014 1:46 PM GMT
Yep, nice one DustyHappy
Report tomhunt January 9, 2014 1:48 PM GMT
whatever you do don't go 10 it's miles behind!!
Report tomhunt January 9, 2014 1:49 PM GMT
0.5 faster than 1
Report dustybin January 9, 2014 1:53 PM GMT
its hard to tell rcing imo, because of the stutter its uncomfortable, cant honestly see many using it like that
Report rcing January 9, 2014 1:55 PM GMT
i agree , my BLV has been stuttering like 0.5 for me for the last 6 months or so , if 1 second is not 0.5s behind 0.5 ( if that makes sense ) i will use 1 second
Report rcing January 9, 2014 1:55 PM GMT
thanks
Report Wesdag January 9, 2014 1:56 PM GMT
Seems that the picture quality can also be adjusted.  Requires a bit of a play around to see what is the best fit.
Report john92 January 9, 2014 2:12 PM GMT
I timed it to 5.2 seconds on 0.5, and 4.7 seconds on 1 but with a smoother picture.
Report starfish and coffee January 9, 2014 2:16 PM GMT
Works great here on the green screen amstrad
Report rcing January 9, 2014 2:17 PM GMT
RUK on purple and BFV the same at 0.5

betfair about 5 seconds behind purple at 1.0 Confused

i do have RUK at home but shall test ATR
Report rcing January 9, 2014 2:23 PM GMT
^^^^^^^^^^^

i just noticed i had quality set as high
Report tomhunt January 9, 2014 2:23 PM GMT
going by the prices and suspend I think it's faster
Report Keefter January 9, 2014 2:24 PM GMT
Southwell suspended a few seconds before they were all loaded for me, got not idea if was an early suspend or not, I had the same issue in an earlier RUK race as well. very dubious about this new player tbh
Report dustybin January 9, 2014 2:25 PM GMT
I think they are ostensibly the exact same
the only difference is on daq when it opens it starts as the same as bflv low bandwidth 0.5 buffer, if you stop it then start it again it become 1.0 buffer
selecting bflv 1.0 buffer is dead level with it when you do this
Report gerard January 9, 2014 2:26 PM GMT
Think that was a c0ck up Keefter, certainly not an indication of increased delay.
Report tips January 9, 2014 2:28 PM GMT
so exactly is ruk still slightly ahead
Report crackle January 9, 2014 2:34 PM GMT
Its the same player they use on the sportsbook site. Seems more temperamental on there but a better player with more options
Report starfish and coffee January 9, 2014 2:55 PM GMT
What is the best setting then? The quality of picture on anything below high looks terrible here.

High quality .5 buffer here
Report duffy January 9, 2014 2:56 PM GMT
It definitely performs better here than on sportsbook although there is still a hint of the stuttering....compared to the old player, speedwise it's just the same and as the old player over the past year has performed very well with the juttery nature all but eradicated...therefore this new one can't be an improvement.
Report rcing January 9, 2014 2:56 PM GMT
so , it seems like this speedwise for ATR on betfair video

0.5 - same as usual , same as daq , stuttering
1.0 - 0.5 behind daq , no stuttering
5   - 4.5 behind daq , no stuttering

i tried 0.5 with high , med and low quality , they all seemed the same speed but low was poor quality pictures and all stuttered
Report tomhunt January 9, 2014 2:58 PM GMT
2.20 South went 0.5, medium and changed to high mid race,suspended just after the line here,I noticed the difference in price late on was more like what we were seeing,time will tell.
Report loper January 9, 2014 3:33 PM GMT
Good to see Betfair's usual customer service standard is being maintained.

Now, where do I find the announcement that an update to LV has been applied and the implications and/or benefits of said update?
Report duffy January 9, 2014 3:36 PM GMT
When you do find it you shouldn't see the word benefits in therePlain
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