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shergar007
10 Nov 13 13:28
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With some many falsely  run NH races e.g. the last at Navan which turned into a sprint after the 2nd last, you have to admire those horses who get their head down right at the start and try to make all the running. One of my favourites was  Limestone Lad.
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Report northanlite November 10, 2013 5:43 PM GMT
buena vista 2 years running in the pertemps final at cheltenham Love
Report Swardean November 10, 2013 5:47 PM GMT
That's Buena in my Avatar northanlite
Report judorick November 10, 2013 5:50 PM GMT
Iris's Gift stayers win Love
Report NOW WE KNOW November 10, 2013 5:58 PM GMT
2 for the old gits, Sweet Joe and of course Tingle Creek!
Report hologon November 10, 2013 5:59 PM GMT
Persian War
Report halcyon days November 10, 2013 6:03 PM GMT
My two all time favourites     Canasta Lad &  The Dikler     !
Report guinness2dear November 10, 2013 6:26 PM GMT
I'm a Driver
Captain Christy
Crisp
Cawstons Pride
Report shergar007 November 10, 2013 6:41 PM GMT
Some more - Attivo virtually making all to win the Triumph hurdle in 1974.

Sabin Du Loir - consistent long distance hurdler of Pipe's.

Anaglog's Daughter - tried to make all in the KIng George on a couple occasions but didn't really stay 3m.

In more recent times, I can only think of Overturn as a decent, consistent front runner.
Report aberdonia November 10, 2013 6:43 PM GMT
Sabin was a great front runner.

Beat Dawn Run one day, well Dawn Run fell.
Report aberdonia November 10, 2013 6:45 PM GMT
got mixed up there , did not mean Sabin

meant Beau Ranger, who was a great front runner.
Report saxon farm November 10, 2013 7:07 PM GMT
Sabin Du Loir beat Dawn Run in the 1983 Sun Alliance Hurdle (now neptune). West Tip was 3rd!
A pretty good renewal!
Report ged November 10, 2013 7:24 PM GMT
Even Keel.
Out And About
Hunters Teasure - won about 8 novice hurdles for Eric Cousins, going a long way clear each time, and was considered a possible threat to Persian War, even as a novice, but she wasn't quite up to that class.
Report ronnie rails November 10, 2013 7:24 PM GMT
remember many years ago the last race at Catterick backing the front runner to get out of trouble, the horse won by a distance, always remember the commentator saying its a doddle for noddle, anyone remember who trained it.
Report Cork Langer November 10, 2013 7:33 PM GMT
ronnie, stats say Len Lungo and it was ridden by Tim Reed (1993)
Report OVERSEAS November 10, 2013 7:36 PM GMT
from many moons ago, Slieve Felim, Rambo Grant ridden for Stepho'...real tearaway and bold jumper ..
Report Cork Langer November 10, 2013 7:38 PM GMT
ronnie, actually won 3 in a row at Catterick, hard to know which one you are referring to as on each occasion it was the last race of the meeting...!
Report aberdonia November 10, 2013 7:42 PM GMT
Nobody will remember this one, a 2 mile chaser of Stephenson's called Giolla Padraig.

Used to go miles clear and many times stayed clear.
Report verbotene liebe November 10, 2013 7:44 PM GMT
The late Alan Merrigan rode Giolla Padraig.
Report SlippyBlue November 10, 2013 7:44 PM GMT
Carvills Hill, 1991 Welsh National.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FV4w0GZPriA

A truly unforgettable performance.
Report Alices November 10, 2013 7:46 PM GMT
Giolla Padraig, ran in the blue and yellow of Peter Pillar.

The Mighty Mac
Report Ibrahima Sonko November 10, 2013 7:46 PM GMT
must be some juvenile hurdlers that racked up a long sequence, certainly some pipe ones.
Report blackbarn November 10, 2013 7:47 PM GMT
Guinness - I didn't miss it! Cawstons PrideLaugh.  If racing ever had an equivalent of the 110 metres hurdles, she'd have pi77ed it.  Best lb. for lb. 2yo of 1970. Mind you not much of a year for 2 year olds that.
Report penzance November 10, 2013 7:47 PM GMT
Ra Nova led for most of his Schwepps
Hdle win,if I'm right.1984/5?
Report NOW WE KNOW November 10, 2013 7:47 PM GMT
Mysilv.
Report Alices November 10, 2013 7:48 PM GMT
Night Nurse and Paddy Broderick.
Report Cork Langer November 10, 2013 7:48 PM GMT
Giolla Padraig's last victory was a Hunters Chase aged 13, at Fontwell of all places, trained at that time by D.C.Robinson and ridden by Stuart Robinson
Report verbotene liebe November 10, 2013 7:51 PM GMT
I remember when Dickinson got The Mighty Mac and Planetman from John Edwards yard - turned both into out and out front runners ( though not sure if TMM already was) and improved the pair of them.
Report ged November 10, 2013 7:52 PM GMT
Clear Cut won a good few 2m4f hcap chases from the front at Wetherby, often with top weight. Probably did more than any other single horse to get the Charlie Hall called the Charlie Hall.
Report warhan November 10, 2013 7:57 PM GMT
Get Real around 2m at ascot,always stopped halfway up the run in
Report aberdonia November 10, 2013 7:58 PM GMT
cant believe no-one has mentioned.

Crisp. Happy
Report Cork Langer November 10, 2013 7:59 PM GMT
put your specs on aberdonia, g2d post 6.26pm
Report sixtwosix November 10, 2013 8:00 PM GMT
Astral Charm did a pretty good job  in the Scottish Grand National back in '81.
Report aberdonia November 10, 2013 8:01 PM GMT
oops
Report blackbarn November 10, 2013 8:06 PM GMT
Astral Charmer a good one.  Grey Sombrero also -  Would have led the National too if not for Crisp.
Report blackbarn November 10, 2013 8:10 PM GMT
Apologies if Tingle Creek already has a mention.
Report blackbarn November 10, 2013 8:12 PM GMT
Sorry re Tingle Creek "Now we know" got there first!!
Report ged November 10, 2013 8:17 PM GMT
Mr Frisk. Made all in the Whitbread 3 weeks after breaking the race record in the Grand National. He loved that firm ground. If ever a horse bounced off it, it was him.
Report GEORGE.B November 10, 2013 8:33 PM GMT
Barton Bank
Report guinness2dear November 10, 2013 8:51 PM GMT
Evening, Blackbarn. I trust you are well.

Was gonna put Sica Dan up but he posts on here...
Report blackbarn November 10, 2013 8:55 PM GMT
Hey Guinness. Very well thanks and hope you are the same.  He wouldn't mindWink
Report guinness2dear November 10, 2013 9:02 PM GMT
Ha.

Yay, not a bother on me thanks, mucker..
Report THE LEGEND November 10, 2013 10:01 PM GMT
BINDAREE
Report Ibrahima Sonko November 10, 2013 10:05 PM GMT
i nearly posted Bindaree but checked him out, doesnt fit the fred imo.
Report Ibrahima Sonko November 10, 2013 10:06 PM GMT
just like barton bank
Report Cash Is King November 10, 2013 10:51 PM GMT
Overturn & Fair Along shocking omissions from the list.
Report Cork Langer November 10, 2013 11:09 PM GMT
Cash, Overturn mentioned by shergar 6.41 post
Report Cash Is King November 10, 2013 11:13 PM GMT
Thanks CL - I should've gone to specsavers!
Report Figgis November 10, 2013 11:16 PM GMT
Run And Skip, St Athans Lad, Ei Ei.
Report JOCI Club November 10, 2013 11:32 PM GMT
Make A Stand was one of the best front runners, and one of the best jumpers of a hurdle I've ever seen.
Report Fabulous November 11, 2013 12:18 AM GMT
Tied Cottage
Delmoss
Report iswearitsoath November 11, 2013 12:45 AM GMT
Grey abbey
Monets garden
Dr Leung
Him of praiseWink
Report iswearitsoath November 11, 2013 12:46 AM GMT
Dr Leunt I meant
Report rayman November 11, 2013 8:38 AM GMT
Black Magic
Report kirschingaround November 11, 2013 9:33 AM GMT
Morceli.....  Still makes me smile when I think back to the way that grey bugger could leap....
Report ged November 11, 2013 9:35 AM GMT
Ahh yes Black Magic - blazing 2 mile chaser of the QM's. He was 50-50 with Crisp at Ascot/Sandown in a couple of races in Oct/Nov one year. I was at Folkestone one day when he was PU in a novice chase at odds-on - don't know what happened as I was in the middle of the course and couldn't see much - but Richard Dennard got plenty of boos as he cantered back up the straight.
Report loper November 11, 2013 12:10 PM GMT
For those of you who enjoyed your racing at Fontwell, before Arena ruined it, St Athens Lad never saw another beast from flag fall to winning post on countless occasions.

It's a disgrace that the most flamboyant frontrunner of all time has only got 2 mentions, so lets hear it once again for


TINGLE CREEK


No horse has ever raced more exuberantly in my (long) lifetime.
Report ged November 11, 2013 12:15 PM GMT
Ok, another one for Tingle Creek then. There must be at least one photo of him jumping with his feet up round his ears, his head looking down between them at the fence as he flies it. How many times did he break the Sandown track record? Must have been at least 3 times.
Report ged November 11, 2013 12:39 PM GMT
Whippers Delight (the original) was a perpetual front-runner who ended up as a bit of a Plumpton specialist, his final win in a 3m2f chase as a 10yo. He won a couple of 7f sellers as a 2yo, making all and pulling like stink.
Report guinness2dear November 11, 2013 12:54 PM GMT
Australia Day
Report mandarin November 11, 2013 1:09 PM GMT
Trouble for so many free running types is they easily nobbled by the handicapper. Not many like Dessie or Dawn Run have had the class to operate out of handicap company - both able to battle back after being headed at the highest level.
Report shergar007 November 11, 2013 1:17 PM GMT
The Mighty Marine was a bit of a front running specialist hovering up handicap chases at Newton Abbot and Devon and Exeter during the summer months - however he usually dominated as there was a lack of runners in his races on firm going.
Report Northofperth November 11, 2013 1:18 PM GMT
The Listener , and do any of you posters remember Clay County bolting into a lead just to "empty out " in the closing stages ?
Report Cork Langer November 11, 2013 1:30 PM GMT
Little harsh about Clay County, had a decent strike rate in chases overall, winning 14/38 and finishing runner up 11 times,in the winter of 91/2 won 5/6 the last race being a defeat by Deep Sensation at Nottingham off level weights of 11-12.
Report themightymac November 11, 2013 1:35 PM GMT
Floyd is a great choice

and The Mighty Mac was quite good too Crazy
Report easygold November 11, 2013 2:42 PM GMT
Here is one that will be or may I say should be if he is allowed to take that kind of running style once again this term and if so he will be very hard to catch, yes it`s my fancy to upset the usual suspects  this season, 25/1 looks value.

UN DE SCEAUX
Report steerforth November 11, 2013 3:06 PM GMT
Tingle Creek was the most exciting front runner I've ever seen, but Dickenson's I'm A Driver did a passable imitation round Catterick one day and had this young punter catching his breath!
Report iamajambo November 11, 2013 3:38 PM GMT
Has Lefrak City had a mention?
Report verbotene liebe November 11, 2013 5:51 PM GMT
Nick Gaselee's Private Views is a mildly surprising omission. Was at Chelters when he beat Raise An Argument in the Cathcart - think Dermot Browne was on the latter. Must also mention St Torbay, a headstrong early season juvenile from the mid 70's who for a brief early season spell headed the Triumph Hdle Ante-post market. From late 70's a headstrong Peter Easterby 2m chaser called Annas' Prince, then from the same yard a few years later the classy Sula Bula and the Richard Fahey ridden Karenomore.
Report springy November 11, 2013 5:57 PM GMT
Ei Ei
Report ekbalko November 11, 2013 6:18 PM GMT
I remember I`m a driver, fastest horse i`ve seen heading for the first fence with Tommy Carmody hanging on for dear life.
Report mandarin November 11, 2013 6:42 PM GMT
I remember a horse Les Kennard had, Leodegrance, almost impossible to hold up over jumps - believe he won, flat, hurdles, & over fences during one calendar year...not sure which year that was.
Report Arleystation November 11, 2013 6:44 PM GMT
Grey Dolphin and Yangtse-Kiang both trained by Milton Bradley in the days when racing on "hard" going was allowed.
Report kabcast November 11, 2013 8:58 PM GMT
Remember an early season handicp chaser called Allied Newcastle win on the fast ground at start of season,also remember Calapaez,a juvenile hurdler trained by Brooke Sanders and at times ridden by Colin Brown or more often Clive Cox,and was the prolific Royal Derbi a front runner?
Report .Fidway. November 11, 2013 9:15 PM GMT
Most of Martin Pipes in the 80s and 90s..
Report screaming from beneaththewaves November 11, 2013 11:50 PM GMT
Am looking at a framed photo of Floyd on my wall right now, jumping out to his right as usual and in a clear lead before winning the Bula Hdle. Also won the Fighting Fifth also going left-handed, rallying incredibly gamely, as usual. When he made all by a neck over 3m at Ascot aged 12, I don't think I have ever loved anything on this earth more than that horse that day.

Rusty Roc was bred, owned and trained by S Wales permit holder MW Davies. Started off as a 7yo failing in 2m chases. Switched to hurdles, he won ten of them, making all. MW Davies was once quoted: "I love this horse - he bought my house." Fell in the lead at the last in his final race - a 3m hurdle at Chepstow, aged 14, ridden by AP McCoy(3).

As a 2yo Sakr was the horse Paddy Butler thought might put him on the map, but temperament got the better of him. Switched to hurdles for the Wonnacott family of Devon, he had to be led in at the start, but this often got him a flyer, particularly under Mr D Wonnacott(7). On one occasion at Newton Abbot in summer 1989 he nicked 20l at the start and was still 20l clear of MC Pipe's Crofter's Nest at the finish. P Scudamore et al. were not amused afterwards.

Silver Cannon was a grey front-runner trained by Rufus Voorspuy to make all in a couple of Plumpton selling hurdles. He really wasn't very good, but was a terrific jumper and went on to make all in 5 chases around Fontwell. He was usually ridden by Micky Furlong, as was another Voorspuy front runner called Solstice Bell, who won five hurdles around the southern gaffs at the same time. She didn't really get a yard beyond 2m 2f, but did make all once over 2m 4f in a 6-runner affair around Plumpton on hard ground. This resulted in her Timeform comment being amended to "stays 20f". That was the point when I realized just what a liability Timeform is for punters.
Report antony_27 November 12, 2013 12:07 AM GMT
Deano's Beano
Report screaming from beneaththewaves November 12, 2013 12:29 AM GMT
Have to mention Sydney Barry, a NZ-bred trained by Bob Buckler. Started off by leading in novice hdles under Mr Chris Bonner(7). The horse clearly had speed, but no chance at the weights or was racing on soft ground or trips he didn't stay. One day at Exeter he was actually still in the lead 2 out over 2m 3f, yet by the last he'd simply been pulled up. This was back in the happy days before meetings like this were televised. There weren't even on-course replays. You had to get high up in the stands with a pair of bins to see these things.

Next time out was 2m 1f on good ground at Hereford carrying 9-7 and 8lb out of the handicap. It was the last race, some bookies had gone home, none were betting each way. Pipe and Nicholls had the joint favs to make the market. I was told afterwards that Buckler took 25/1, but don't know whether that's true. I had £50 each way at SP in the Tote Credit shop. The only other person at the track who I knew had seen what had been going on with this horse was Bearded Alan. We agreed to keep it as an SP job and not back it in the Ring.

Sydney Barry made every yard at an SP of 100/1.

I bought John Stubbs a cake in the buffet at Newport station afterwards to thank him for the very fair SP he'd returned. He felt it was the worst attempt at bribing an SP reporter he'd ever encountered.

My Tote Credit account was immediately restricted to bets at tote odds only. Sydney Barry's owner, Peter Jones, later became head of the Tote.

Sprintfayre was an unraced 5yo by Magnolia Lad, owned by PJ Coleman and trained by Rod Simpson, when he debuted in a Sandown bumper in Nov. 1993. The Racing Post had him down to be ridden by DOUBTFUL, and the numbers board at Sandown listed his jockey as NON-RUNNER, yet he turned up in the paddock and didn't look a bad sort. Eddie Fremantle went up to the Press Box and discovered Marcus Armytage was going to ride, which was a decent booking in a bumper.

The only other horse I could think of by Magnolia Lad was a decent hurdler called Billy Boru, who was also five and also trained by Rod Simpson. Billy Boru had won bumper on his racecourse debut, when also owned by PJ Coleman, but trained then by Albert Davison. Alarm Bells rang.

Fremantle and I backed it quietly around the Ring. I remember having 25 fifties each way and a £1,000 to £60. Sprintfayre made every yard of the running.

The horse called Sprintfayre ran many times afterwards, but never approached that form, winning just a couple of little handicap hurdles at Fontwell and Towcester. Both Sprintfayre and Billy Boru ended up listed as being trained by John and Monica Long.
Report Colldogg November 12, 2013 1:51 AM GMT
Neptune Collonges LoveLoveLoveLoveLove

Carruthers LoveLoveLove
Report kabcast November 12, 2013 7:15 AM GMT
Screamingfrombeneath,thankyou i really enjoyed your contributions,just as an aside reference Sakr you mentioned,i have often thought that his first trainer, Paddy Butler,must have trained some of the most moderate horses to race over the last 2 or 3 decades,surely deserves better luck.
Report screaming from beneaththewaves November 12, 2013 8:28 AM GMT
Yes, kabcast. I remember reading one of those stable profiles in the old Sporting Life Weekender in the mid-1980s where Butler was detailing the grim struggle to find a race with slow horses, but with Sakr he had at last found one with a bit of speed. Thinking about it, the horse may have been 3 or 4 years old by the time Butler got him. Possibly with Dick Hern as a 2yo??

With the Wonnacotts Sakr's last ever race would have led to a meltdown on here. A 3-runner hurdle on hard ground at Exeter. The Pipe Scudamore Racing Club had the favourite, Ultra Violet. Sakr was second favourite, having made all last time out despite whipping round at the start under the professional Mark Williams. The Wonnacotts also had the outsider, another front runner, called Lizzy Longstocking.

Sakr, under Mark Williams again, virtually refused to race and broke down when he did. Stable companion Lizzy Longstocking meanwhile went on to make all under Mrs C Wonnacott.
Report koikeeper November 12, 2013 9:15 AM GMT
Anything Martin Pipe ran is his heyday Grin
Report ribero1 November 12, 2013 9:43 AM GMT
Easby abbey.
Report mandarin November 12, 2013 9:56 AM GMT
Rentaghost - dashing grey! - not sure he managed to win many races.
Report Monte Christo November 12, 2013 10:47 AM GMT
Hardy EustaceLove

Still the last horse to retain the Champion Hurdle and imo a most underrated one as well.
Report ST NICHOLAS ABBEY November 12, 2013 11:03 AM GMT
Homefield back in the 80's
Report loper November 12, 2013 11:21 AM GMT
Screaming from beneaththewaves, mentions a NZ beast, Sydney Barry.

This prompted my dusty memory to come up with Grand Canyon, also NZ bred and raised.

Won umpteen novice hurdles, 4/9 when only 3rd in the Supreme Novices, he broke endless track records and went to the US to win back to back Colonial Cups. Also won in Italy and France.

He must be in the all time top ten of habitual front runners, class wise.
Report shergar007 November 12, 2013 12:24 PM GMT
Grand Canyon would certainly qualify particularly as he led up Tied Cottage (already mentioned in other threads) in the 1979 King George VI Chase won that year by Silver Buck - not surprisingly they could not keep up the gallop up front.

http://youtu.be/dQWBVOPyHWI

Some great, genuine,gutsy, front runners mentioned from bygone days - makes me wonder that they are a dying breed nowadays?
Report mentalbird November 12, 2013 1:12 PM GMT
I was at Bangor one Saturday when they started putting TV's in the bars to watch away coverage on BBC or ITV, Grand Canyon was running at Kempton in what was a virtual match with Swift Shadow, although there were other runners. The away bookies tic tac was showing out from the extel commentary, about 20 seconds behind the action. Grand Canyon fell at the first and the rest is history as I accommodated the three  of them with all my readies.
Report steerforth November 12, 2013 1:14 PM GMT
There was a grey horse that Elsworth trained around the late nineties that could look good going from the front - Desert something?
Report verbotene liebe November 12, 2013 5:23 PM GMT
Grand Canyon stirs up memories of his stable companion Navigation, another ex New Zealand front runner who was a bit part player in some classy events.On the subject of that yard Derek Kent moved to the far east to train and ended up being warned off.
Report malky1 November 12, 2013 5:31 PM GMT
bregawn winning the 83 gold cup lead till the last then stayed on strongly michael dickinson had the first 5.
Report guinness2dear November 12, 2013 5:51 PM GMT
And Kent's Young Arfur won at the Chelts Festival..
Report sixtwosix November 12, 2013 5:55 PM GMT
Great to see the 79 King George again, a field of quality and depth.

Lot more flashy jumpers than Silver Buck , but he was so efficient gliding over his fences with little wasted energy ....a superstar.
Report aberdonia November 16, 2013 7:18 PM GMT
found the 86 Imperial Cup where my favourite front runner , Hypnosis ran and was the moral winner.


http://tinyurl.com/opfmccm
Report themightymac November 16, 2013 9:19 PM GMT
HOMEFIELD - st nicholas abbey

That`s a brilliant shout. Best front runner ever on the Flat but I wasn`t sure if he ran over hurdles. Did he ever win over obstacles?
Report TiptheOdds November 16, 2013 10:18 PM GMT
Grey Abbey
Report aberdonia November 16, 2013 10:42 PM GMT
Egypt Mill Prince won a few from the front.

One day Brad won on it never seeing another rival.
Report Big Bucks John November 16, 2013 10:45 PM GMT
Lough Derg, won me a fw quid especially at Ascot or Buena Vista who has won me loads at the festival.
Report aberdonia November 16, 2013 10:46 PM GMT
Lough Derg is a great shout.
Report mentalbird November 17, 2013 12:37 PM GMT
in 1978 between Aug 2 and Nov 15, Carrigeen Hill J King C Bewicke won 9 chases, making all on each occasion (1 walkover), finally put in his place by I'm A Driver at Ascot on Nov 18. Homefield did run over hurdles (2nd at Cartmel), I don't have all the books' so can't tell you if he ever won.
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