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Big Boss
14 Oct 13 14:47
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any danger of laying a decent price ?

no wonder they reporting operating losses
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Report THE-GHOST-OF-DICKIE-BIRD October 14, 2013 3:06 PM BST
F O B T
Report Big Boss October 14, 2013 3:15 PM BST
Feck Off Betting Turnover
Report themover October 14, 2013 3:17 PM BST
havent had a bet with them in over 5 years, maybe more
Report Sccoby October 14, 2013 3:19 PM BST
Opened account with them friday and deposited £500.  Went to have a bet and stake changed to say i could have £0.  telephoned them to which they told me my account had been associated with an existing account in 2003.  Tbh didn't think i had an account in 2003 but accepted it so I said to them ok fair enough can you refund the £500 to which they have refused !!

After numerous phone calls they say if i send them my bank statement - photocopy of the front and back of my debit card and also a photocopy of my passport they will then refund my money.

Pointing out the implications of sending all this data is not advisable they will bot budge  gambling commission do not want to know as its under Gibraltar laws.
Anyone else had similar problem with refunding money.  I offered to take documents into a shop for them to see but they wouldn't have this either.
Report THE-GHOST-OF-DICKIE-BIRD October 14, 2013 3:40 PM BST
UNREAL ^^^^^
Report toronto44 October 14, 2013 3:56 PM BST
bookmakers now know they can get away with anything.The racing media nave been corrupted and neutered.The last and current governments have betrayed the British people for money and power.Look how they sold out to the big bookmakers profits against people who needed protection from the legalised theft on the fobts.

Why do people keep voting for them.
Report Sccoby October 14, 2013 4:41 PM BST
Problem is where do you go - who listens we all know how they operate but nobody with any power is listening, its so frustrating, other industries cant get away with it so why the bookmakers !!! Independents don't stand a chance against them. They really have it sown up from the top downwards...

Update to Ladbrokes earlier - I have spoke to my bank who have said categorically not to send documents and they will action from their end.. so I will just have to wait and see, but 1 thing lads did say to me was the problem was with NatWest and ALL NatWest accounts are treated like this and have been for the last 2 years..  Funnily enough the man I spoke to at NatWest denied this and even said he had a Lads account and has never been asked for these documents - Just Blatant lies !!!
Report dave1357 October 14, 2013 4:51 PM BST
sccoby - the activity (depositing and then withdrawing) looks exactly like the "layering" part of money laundering.  If anyone with the effective* IQ of >60 looked at your situation they would realise that your withdrawal is because you can't get a bet.

*the person you will be dealing with is just following orders from a computer so effectively has no intelligence.
Report knot in wood October 14, 2013 5:00 PM BST
coral have the same policy,must send them passport,utility bill to withdraw money.
i refused to do this and closed my account,without placing a bet.
Report Sccoby October 14, 2013 5:02 PM BST
lol I fully understand that but what am I meant to do - the telephone operator ended the call with "is there anything else I can do for you"
Yes - Can I have bet
NO
Can I have my money back
NO
Then what else could I possibly want from a bookmaker !!!!!

Should have tried to play it in casino - I bet they would let me do that !!!
Report ekbalko October 14, 2013 5:17 PM BST
Can`t see the problem taking the stuff into one of their shops it would only take a phone call from the manager to verify it.
Report THE-GHOST-OF-DICKIE-BIRD October 14, 2013 5:29 PM BST
Ladbrokes issues profit warning due to online business
A hand and a card at a poker table Ladbrokes says conditions have been "challenging"
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    Gaming machine slump hits Ladbrokes
    Ladbrokes warns on slower trading

The betting company Ladbrokes has warned that profit will fall short of expectations because of a disappointing performance in its online business.

Profits for its online arm will be in the range of £10-14m this year, far short of the £27.5m which had been expected, the company said in a statement.

Chief executive Richard Glynn said that conditions had been "challenging"

Ladbrokes has already issued one profits warning this year.

Last month the company reported a steep decline in profits, as a slowdown in gaming machine revenues dented its figures.

Pre-tax profits for the first six months of 2013 were down 49% from the same period last year, falling to £55.1m,

In the latest trading update, which was brought forward from next month, Mr Glynn said: "Our digital earnings have been disappointing reflecting a lack of competitiveness in sportsbook, lower margins than planned, and a greater disruptive impact than expected from the transition necessary to grow digital for the long term".
Report son of jimbo October 14, 2013 5:33 PM BST
Try telling this story to BBC's Watchdog programme. You never know they might decide to put it on.
Report Sccoby October 14, 2013 5:48 PM BST
Great Idea Jimbo thanks - have just submitted to them  Will wait and see if anything comes from it. Thanks
Report screaming from beneaththewaves October 14, 2013 5:57 PM BST
Wow, Sccoby! Could this at last be the way we get the media to publicize how the big betting shop chains refuse to take bets from customers with a chance of winning?
Report cakes1978 October 14, 2013 7:21 PM BST
There is no need to ever have a bet with this firm as they run racing synergy programme that when ever a horse goes under their price on here they cut it. You can get them to change a price by putting up tenners on here in the morning. Rancid firm run by retards and when the FOBT's money runs dry they will hopefully be no more. They can suck my stump !!!!!!!!!!!!
Report toffee87 October 14, 2013 7:23 PM BST
talking of shocking overrounds - I picked up a footy coupon from laddies earlier and the 1st 5 players in the 1st g/s betting for the Spain/Georgia game take out 143% - all 5 players are likely to start
Report parispike October 14, 2013 7:45 PM BST
In the latest trading update, which was brought forward from next month, Mr Glynn said: "Our digital earnings have been disappointing reflecting a lack of competitiveness in sportsbook, lower margins than planned, and a greater disruptive impact than expected from the transition necessary to grow digital for the long term".

Give that to me again please. Profits are down because of a lack of competitiveness? In the betting market? In any market?
Report nc October 14, 2013 11:54 PM BST
Ladbrokes early odds seem to have worsened during the last 6 months alas. Often the worst price in the village ¬
Report harry2.1 October 15, 2013 9:19 AM BST
First goalscorer
Negredo 6/4
Fabregas 2/1
Michu 3/1
Rodrigues 3/1
Isco 4/1
Mata 9/2
Silva 11/2
Cazorlo 7/1
Iniesta 7/1
Koko 15/2
Hernandez 15/2

310% book Cry
Report YOMOMMA October 15, 2013 10:59 AM BST
THEY DON'T GET CALLED LADCROOKS FOR NOTHING. Cry
Report THE-GHOST-OF-DICKIE-BIRD October 15, 2013 11:03 AM BST
Harry you sure????

That must be anytime scorer surely????
Report harry2.1 October 15, 2013 11:08 AM BST
http://www.oddschecker.com/football/world-cup/matches/spain-v-georgia/first-goalscorer

They have ELEVEN players odds on to score !!!

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/world-cup/matches/spain-v-georgia/anytime-goalscorer
Report THE-GHOST-OF-DICKIE-BIRD October 15, 2013 11:12 AM BST
LaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
Report THE-GHOST-OF-DICKIE-BIRD October 15, 2013 11:17 AM BST
Negredo 2/7 wiv um corals 8//11




errrrrrrrrr laddies i fink we have spotted where you are going wrongLaughLaughLaughLaugh
Report Big Boss October 15, 2013 11:44 AM BST
Early Price Favourites as at 11.30am

2.00N ....... 4/9 Lads, 1/2 elsewhere
2.30N ....... 2/1 Lads, 5/2 elsewhere
3.00N ....... 5/2 Lads, 11/4 elsewhere
3.30N ....... 6/5 Lads, 11/8 elsewhere
4.00N ....... 7/2 Lads, 4/1 elsewhere
4.30N ....... 5/2 Lads, 3/1 elsewhere
5.00N ....... 10/3 Lads, 7/2 elsewhere
5.30N ....... 4/1 Lads, 4/1 elsewhere

2.10L ....... 1/1 Lads, 1/1 elsewhere
2.40L ....... 2/5 Lads, 4/9 elsewhere
3.10L ....... 10/3 Lads, 7/2 elsewhere
3.40L ....... 15/8 Lads, 2/1 elsewhere
4.10L ....... 11/10 Lads, 5/4 elsewhere
4.40L ....... 11/8 Lads, 6/4 elsewhere
5.10L ....... 1/2 Lads, 4/7 elsewhere
5.40L ....... 4/1 Lads, 5/1 elsewhere

2.20H ....... 11/8 Lads, 13/8 elsewhere
2.50H ....... 2/1 Lads, 9/4 elsewhere
3.20H ....... 7/4 Lads, 9/4 elsewhere
3.50H ....... 11/8 Lads, 7/4 elsewhere
4.20H ....... 11/4 Lads, 7/2 elsewhere
4.50H ....... 9/4 Lads, 9/4 elsewhere
5.20H ....... 1/1 Lads, 11/10 elsewhere
Report Big Boss October 15, 2013 12:02 PM BST
Percentage Books as at 11.55am, using the top 8 bookies, rank number higher is worse
sample ..... Lads, Billys, 3.65, Spoils, Sly, Paddy, Viktor, Unsporting

2.00N ....... 118% Lads, rank 8th
2.30N ....... 126% Lads, rank 8th
3.00N ....... 123% Lads, rank 8th
3.30N ....... 119% Lads, rank 8th
4.00N ....... 130% Lads, rank 8th
4.30N ....... 122% Lads, rank 8th
5.00N ....... 123% Lads, rank 8th
5.30N ....... 130% Lads, rank 7th

2.10L ....... 108% Lads, rank 8th
2.40L ....... 118% Lads, rank 8th
3.10L ....... 118% Lads, rank joint 5th with 2 others
3.40L ....... 125% Lads, rank 8th
4.10L ....... 111% Lads, rank joint 6th with 2 others
4.40L ....... 114% Lads, rank 8th
5.10L ....... 115% Lads, rank 7th
5.40L ....... 128% Lads, rank joint 4th with 2 others

2.20H ....... 124% Lads, rank 8th
2.50H ....... 120% Lads, rank 8th
3.20H ....... 127% Lads, rank joint 6th with 2 others
3.50H ....... 122% Lads, rank joint 6th with 2 others
4.20H ....... 128% Lads, rank joint 4th with 2 others
4.50H ....... 115% Lads, rank 8th
5.20H ....... 128% Lads, rank 4th
Report pete_de October 15, 2013 12:17 PM BST
big boss   

great work   well done
Report Big Boss October 15, 2013 12:27 PM BST
yw, 2bf, not much work, just looked at RP betting site and copy and pasted
Report billybongo October 15, 2013 12:29 PM BST
Rang up this morning for some bets usually get trader but get offered a bit and then use a few other accounts to get all on. Now if your account is restricted you no longer have your bets sent to a trader but you get offered a liability of £10. The  minimum bet on the phone is £25 so they say for you to make these £2 bets up to that amount to have a bet. Something changed on phones this week. Tosers propabaly got rid of all traders to save money
Report BARROWBOY October 15, 2013 12:34 PM BST
tbf they havent got a trading strategy,so why would they need traders.
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