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12 Oct 13
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Blimey, 1st shock, The wheeltappers and shunters wasn't a real club!
Well - I'm fed-up of watching these 'effin Football hooligans.
There was more to the 70s than this.
Oh blimey ... Miners Strike and 3-day week to come -
- followed by the Rampant Inflation.
There was more to the 70s than this.
Oh blimey ... Miners Strike and 3-day week to come
- - followed by the Rampant Inflation.
i was born in December 66.
the 70s to me means children's TV, Grange Hill, Tiswas, Swap Shop and playing football in the summer holidays from 8 in the morning to 8 at night.
Any youngster out all day in this era would be reported missing by his parents.
much better times, although the 80s were much better, much, much better.
the 70s to me means children's TV, Grange Hill, Tiswas, Swap Shop and playing football in the summer holidays from 8 in the morning to 8 at night.
Any youngster out all day in this era would be reported missing by his parents.
much better times, although the 80s were much better, much, much better.
ronnie corbett is the poshest scot i have ever heard.
spot on aberdonia, add to the programmes, crackerjack, blue peter, black beauty. my sister used to watch the kids from 47a,and little house on the prairie, god bless her
here is another few, fingerbobs, Pipkins, Rainbow, Mr Benn and Mary, Mungo & Midge.
I was 16 in 1973 - it really was a great time to grow up - never had much cash - but great music and The Sweeney - what more could you want - if only Callaghan had gone into an election before the winter - we wouldn't even remember Thatcher
Any muslims been on yet
...feck me, theres me hoping the edl had disbanded...
...feck me, theres me hoping the edl had disbanded...
good point - fool proof.
They had not yet 'come to power', then.
They had not yet 'come to power', then.
rentaghost
and the great reggie perrin has just appeared.
and the great reggie perrin has just appeared.
NF/combat 18 in those days,seen selling papers etc outside SB every match day
We were close to the edge.
The Unions - and Labour Militants - had the country by the goolies.
The Unions - and Labour Militants - had the country by the goolies.
The militants were humiliating the labour movemewnt but many of the objectives of the labour government were humane - the world economy was in turmoil - oil prices escalated - not much different now - Healey was a brilliant chancellor
Thank Fu ck punk rock was the only thing to protest against in Wales
We were close to the edge.
....dont know about that ONLOOKER... things arent that great now with the economic deficit, spiralling fuel charges, cheaper fares to fly
to new york than travel a few miles by train.....goverment sting in the sell off of royal mail, corrupt politicians..i could go on..
....dont know about that ONLOOKER... things arent that great now with the economic deficit, spiralling fuel charges, cheaper fares to fly
to new york than travel a few miles by train.....goverment sting in the sell off of royal mail, corrupt politicians..i could go on..
i despise healey and the labour party, does go on a bit does this.
Former Labour Chancellor of the Exchequer Denis Healey has sensationally admitted that his party hid the true worth of Scotland’s oil in the seventies in order to persuade Scots against voting for home rule.
Speaking to Holyrood magazine, the former Cabinet Minister said that the current UK government is "worried stiff" that Scots might vote Yes in the 2014 referendum which will mean Westminster losing billions in tax receipts from North Sea oil.
The explosive admission by the former senior Cabinet Minister came in an interview with the editor of Holyrood magazine Mandy Rhodes.
Speaking candidly, the senior Labour party figure who was Chancellor from 1974 to 1979 said that the rest of the UK "would suffer enormously" if Scotland voted for independence but that Scotland "could survive perfectly well".
However, when asked about Labour’s role in the lead-up to the 1979 referendum for a Scottish Assembly, he admitted that his party had deliberately hid Scotland’s oil wealth in order to thwart the SNP who were then gaining in power.
This, he said was also a prime motivation for the current UK coalition government:
"I think we did underplay the value of the oil to the country because of the threat of nationalism but that was mainly down to Thatcher.
"We didn’t actually see the rewards from oil in my period in office because we were investing in the infrastructure rather than getting the returns and really, Thatcher wouldn’t have been able to carry out any of her policies without that additional 5 per cent on GDP from oil."
In his interview, Lord Healey also revealed that he relied on Scottish Labour MPs to inform his views on what he termed the 'Scottish Question' and expressed regret that successive UK government's had not set up a Norwegian style oil fund.
In another extraordinary admission he said of Westminster politicians: "I think they are concerned about Scotland taking the oil, I think they are worried stiff about it."
He added: "I think we would suffer enormously if the income from Scottish oil stopped but if the Scots want it [independence] they should have it and we would just need to adjust but I would think Scotland could survive perfectly well, economically, if it was independent."
Asked by Ms Rhodes what he thought about claims that Scotland is subsidised, the former Labour Chancellor described them as "myths" perpetrated he said by opponents of independence. He also rubbished Unionist arguments that an independent Scotland and the remainder of the UK would not both benefit from a Sterling zone.
The Labour peer's admission that his party hid the true worth of oil from Scots confirms the conclusions of a secret report which was marked secret for thirty years.
In 1974 Professor Gavin McCrone wrote a report which stated that Scotland would have had an "embarrassingly large tax surplus as a result of the North Sea oil boom". UK governments kept this information under wraps until it was eventually released in 2005.
The revelation that the Labour party deliberately set out to deceive Scots and that Margaret Thatcher then used the oil revenue to fund her own policies has been seized on by the SNP who have described the admission as a "hammer blow to the No campaign".
Commenting, Finance Secretary John Swinney said:
"This admission from Lord Healey that the UK Treasury played down the value and extent of Scotland's resources - on the eve of yet more Treasury scaremongering against independence - is a hammer blow to the No campaign.
"As Lord Healey now says, 'Scotland could survive perfectly well economically if it was independent'. And he admits that an oil fund should have been established by the UK - confirming that Westminster has wasted Scotland's resources, and the Scottish Parliament now needs to be in charge.
"If a former Chancellor is admitting that the Treasury hid the reality before about the value and longevity of Scotland's oil and gas resources, we cannot believe a word they say now. The Treasury's bogus figures weren't worth the paper they were written on when Westminster was last worried about an independent Scotland gaining access to our own oil revenues - and nothing has changed this time round.
"In terms of revenue, more than half of the North Sea oil’s value is still to be extracted - which is why a Yes vote next September is so important. What’s more, oil makes up around double the proportion of Norway’s total tax revenues than it does Scotland’s – yet no one would describe the Norwegians as being too reliant on oil, or question their ability to be a successful independent country.
"We are a resource-rich country, and with the powers of independence Scotland could do even more to boost our economy and get more people into jobs. Only a Yes vote in next September’s referendum will give us the economic and fiscal powers we need to build the fairer, more prosperous nation that we all want to live in."
Former Labour Chancellor of the Exchequer Denis Healey has sensationally admitted that his party hid the true worth of Scotland’s oil in the seventies in order to persuade Scots against voting for home rule.
Speaking to Holyrood magazine, the former Cabinet Minister said that the current UK government is "worried stiff" that Scots might vote Yes in the 2014 referendum which will mean Westminster losing billions in tax receipts from North Sea oil.
The explosive admission by the former senior Cabinet Minister came in an interview with the editor of Holyrood magazine Mandy Rhodes.
Speaking candidly, the senior Labour party figure who was Chancellor from 1974 to 1979 said that the rest of the UK "would suffer enormously" if Scotland voted for independence but that Scotland "could survive perfectly well".
However, when asked about Labour’s role in the lead-up to the 1979 referendum for a Scottish Assembly, he admitted that his party had deliberately hid Scotland’s oil wealth in order to thwart the SNP who were then gaining in power.
This, he said was also a prime motivation for the current UK coalition government:
"I think we did underplay the value of the oil to the country because of the threat of nationalism but that was mainly down to Thatcher.
"We didn’t actually see the rewards from oil in my period in office because we were investing in the infrastructure rather than getting the returns and really, Thatcher wouldn’t have been able to carry out any of her policies without that additional 5 per cent on GDP from oil."
In his interview, Lord Healey also revealed that he relied on Scottish Labour MPs to inform his views on what he termed the 'Scottish Question' and expressed regret that successive UK government's had not set up a Norwegian style oil fund.
In another extraordinary admission he said of Westminster politicians: "I think they are concerned about Scotland taking the oil, I think they are worried stiff about it."
He added: "I think we would suffer enormously if the income from Scottish oil stopped but if the Scots want it [independence] they should have it and we would just need to adjust but I would think Scotland could survive perfectly well, economically, if it was independent."
Asked by Ms Rhodes what he thought about claims that Scotland is subsidised, the former Labour Chancellor described them as "myths" perpetrated he said by opponents of independence. He also rubbished Unionist arguments that an independent Scotland and the remainder of the UK would not both benefit from a Sterling zone.
The Labour peer's admission that his party hid the true worth of oil from Scots confirms the conclusions of a secret report which was marked secret for thirty years.
In 1974 Professor Gavin McCrone wrote a report which stated that Scotland would have had an "embarrassingly large tax surplus as a result of the North Sea oil boom". UK governments kept this information under wraps until it was eventually released in 2005.
The revelation that the Labour party deliberately set out to deceive Scots and that Margaret Thatcher then used the oil revenue to fund her own policies has been seized on by the SNP who have described the admission as a "hammer blow to the No campaign".
Commenting, Finance Secretary John Swinney said:
"This admission from Lord Healey that the UK Treasury played down the value and extent of Scotland's resources - on the eve of yet more Treasury scaremongering against independence - is a hammer blow to the No campaign.
"As Lord Healey now says, 'Scotland could survive perfectly well economically if it was independent'. And he admits that an oil fund should have been established by the UK - confirming that Westminster has wasted Scotland's resources, and the Scottish Parliament now needs to be in charge.
"If a former Chancellor is admitting that the Treasury hid the reality before about the value and longevity of Scotland's oil and gas resources, we cannot believe a word they say now. The Treasury's bogus figures weren't worth the paper they were written on when Westminster was last worried about an independent Scotland gaining access to our own oil revenues - and nothing has changed this time round.
"In terms of revenue, more than half of the North Sea oil’s value is still to be extracted - which is why a Yes vote next September is so important. What’s more, oil makes up around double the proportion of Norway’s total tax revenues than it does Scotland’s – yet no one would describe the Norwegians as being too reliant on oil, or question their ability to be a successful independent country.
"We are a resource-rich country, and with the powers of independence Scotland could do even more to boost our economy and get more people into jobs. Only a Yes vote in next September’s referendum will give us the economic and fiscal powers we need to build the fairer, more prosperous nation that we all want to live in."
I accept that "short term" Scotland will be better off as an independent state but the in the long term when oil resources are depleted they will be coming cap in hand to rejoin the constitution of the UK - you cannot have it both ways aberdonia - the point about over half of the resources has yet to be extracted is argumentative - I have read contrary reports suggesting there is a finite amount which can be extricated cost effectively
Please let the "Sweaties" take their independence and stand on their own two feet (some chance).
, very funny nigel/racingstar, our nickname for the english is "nigels" cause you all talk posh, wear suits and, carry brollys and briefcases.btw, my best mate is from London, lots of English in the North East of Scotland, you are a fine nation, just dont want you spending "my" hard earned.
geordie, scottish companies operate all over the world, not just in the north sea, we will be fine.
however, i doubt labour west of scotland will vote to gain a backbone.
generations of labour rule has produced people who cant and wont do anything for themselves
aberdonia 12 Oct 13 22:17
' ...however, i doubt labour west of scotland will vote to gain a backbone'.
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That will be because they are all getting their Benefits paid from WHITEHALL
Is there enough 'Oil Money' - in the tank - for the Home Team to pay those Benefits?
' ...however, i doubt labour west of scotland will vote to gain a backbone'.
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That will be because they are all getting their Benefits paid from WHITEHALL
Is there enough 'Oil Money' - in the tank - for the Home Team to pay those Benefits?
The "sweaties" have always talked a good game.
How many times have we heard how well Celtic or Rangers would have done in the Premiership?
Needless to say,neither decided to give up their "Free pass to the Champions League.
How many times have we heard how well Celtic or Rangers would have done in the Premiership?
Needless to say,neither decided to give up their "Free pass to the Champions League.
celtic are irish, rangers are english
they are not scotland.
they are not scotland.
Onlooker
Scotland contributes more to the UK than it gets out.
We pay our fair share to Whitehall.
i do agree, though, they will have to get off their arses and work when we become a proper country because im not subsidising the lazy so and so's
Scotland contributes more to the UK than it gets out.
We pay our fair share to Whitehall.
i do agree, though, they will have to get off their arses and work when we become a proper country because im not subsidising the lazy so and so's
Onlooker
Scotland contributes more to the UK than it gets out.
We pay our fair share to Whitehall.
i do agree, though, they will have to get off their arses and work when we become a proper country because im not subsidising the lazy so and so's
Scotland contributes more to the UK than it gets out.
We pay our fair share to Whitehall.
i do agree, though, they will have to get off their arses and work when we become a proper country because im not subsidising the lazy so and so's
celtic are irish, rangers are english .....ffs aberdunderheed have you been on the lash.....total bolluks but made me laugh though....
If Scotland becomes independent the only difference between itself and Greece will be that Greece has better weather.
aberdonia
12 Oct 13 21:28
i was born in December 66.
the 70s to me means children's TV, Grange Hill, Tiswas, Swap Shop
I was born in '66 as well but had to go to school on Saturdays mornings and play rugby or cricket afterwards so I never saw Tiswas or Swap Shop
12 Oct 13 21:28
i was born in December 66.
the 70s to me means children's TV, Grange Hill, Tiswas, Swap Shop
I was born in '66 as well but had to go to school on Saturdays mornings and play rugby or cricket afterwards so I never saw Tiswas or Swap Shop
I was born in '66 as well but had to go to school on Saturdays mornings
School on a Saturday ?
School on a Saturday ?
Yep sparrow, school on Saturday from 9am til 1pm and I was always playing sports afterwards so it was a 6 day week.
My brothers used to mercilessly take the Michael out of me as I toodled off and they were all plotted up having breakfast whilst watching Saturday morning tv!
My brothers used to mercilessly take the Michael out of me as I toodled off and they were all plotted up having breakfast whilst watching Saturday morning tv!
I too went to school on Saturdays, half day only, but I remember Sally James.
Never heard of Saturday school before slippy. We live and learn.
I had to av a day of during the wk caus I went to Sunday school............
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