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BIG AL 9 BALL
07 Oct 13 18:48
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Just a quick note for anybody who backed EDUCATE at 16/1 with Betfred at 9am on Cambridgeshire day a week last saturday?
I backed him single and had him in an each way double with DEMORA at 11/1 and was underpaid by £26 on my double and by £15 0n my single bet? When i queried this the assistant told me it was for a rule 4 because ASCRIPTION was a NR? I said it was 16/1 the field so how could there be a rule 4 but he said the rule 4 goes up to 16/1 now so i just believed him and left the shop?
It was only while talking to a friend yesterday who backed EDUCATE in a different Betfred shop that he said he queried his bet and after a few phone calls the lady was told to pay him the full amount as there had been a manual error regarding the rule 4?
I went in Betfreds yesterday and told the Assistant who originally served me all this new info but he just got all shirty and told me if ive got a problem to ring customer services! So i took the number off him and rang them and the man on the other end verified that there had been an error with the rule 4 and told me he would ring the shop in question and tell the assistant to pay me the difference when i went back in later-I also told him about the assistants attitude and he said he would have a word? Which he must have done because the Assistant was very helpful and apologetic when refunding me my £41
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Report BIG AL 9 BALL October 7, 2013 6:52 PM BST
The Betfred customer service number i was given was 0800 032 0878
Report Dev1sbear October 7, 2013 7:05 PM BST
BET  FR  ED     don't do Customer Service, full stop
Report B1GTONY76 October 7, 2013 11:44 PM BST
I also backed this horse and had 5p rule 4 applied, when was Ascription withdrawn. I thought it was about 830am on saturday.

this was there response when I contacted them

Thank you for your email.
Bets placed between 9am and 9.15am on the 3.50 at Newmarket should have one 5p Rule 4 applied.

This is due to there being a 16/1 non-runner Ascription, according to our terms and conditions, Rule 4’s should only be applied to selections of 14/1 or shorter.

After 9.15 Ascription’s price was reduced therefore bets taken after this time have been settled correctly.
 
Your bet has been settled correctly.
Thank you for contacting Totepool.com Customer Services,
Report BIG AL 9 BALL October 8, 2013 2:47 PM BST
I placed my bets at 9-01am when it was 16/1 the field and they hold the price for 15 mins? So i cant really speak for anybody who backed it after 9-15am? As i said in my earlier post i phoned the number above and the guy was very helpful and at no point did he ask me what time i struck my bets?
Report B1GTONY76 October 8, 2013 3:00 PM BST
I think the non runner was pulled out around 830am on the saturday however this was the response I got off them.

Thank you for your email.
Having read your email thoroughly allow me firstly to say I am unable to discuss the procedures of any other bookmaker or allow their actions to influence or effect decisions with regard to settlements adopted by Betfred.

I can confirm that Ascriptions price fluctuated from 16/1 to 14/1 at 09:09:37 and was amended as a runner runner upon our markets at 14:07:19.

I hope this resolves your concern, should you have any further queries do not hesitate to contact the team.
Thank you for contacting Totepool.com Customer Services,
Report B1GTONY76 October 8, 2013 3:02 PM BST
Ascriptions on hills says there is rule 4 only prior to 649am, no joy with bfred/totepool sent 5 emails and no joy.
Report tinkler October 8, 2013 3:11 PM BST
Bet placed at a Betfd shop  at 9.02 , when collected R4 taken out 5 p and cashier printed a slip out explaining it, told him to ring head office as it wasn't right
,which he then did ,they confirmed no R4 ,cashier appologised and handed over the extra money.
Report B1GTONY76 October 8, 2013 3:14 PM BST
Is there any way getting an offical time that Ascriptions was made a non runner as no way it way 207pm, I sure it was about 830am
Report tinkler October 8, 2013 3:32 PM BST
If it was before 9.00 and Betfd were going 16/1 the field at 9.00 ,then they cannt justify a rule 4 .How can a horses price contract when its a known
non runner. Surely for those not properly paid out by them would have a good case to go to the IBAS with.
Report BARROWBOY October 8, 2013 3:37 PM BST
sounds like the chancers are paying out properly but only if you get them to contact HO.wonder how many people theyve ripped off who didnt argue,truly despicable outfit.
Report B1GTONY76 October 8, 2013 3:51 PM BST
I checked on H ills and there rule 4 only applies to bets prior to 649am
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