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It was my 21st. I went home for the celebration. My mother put all the presents I had already opened on the table for the guests to see. Put the money you were given with it she said. I said, It will be back tomorrow! I had put it on Meld in the St Leger. Nice Filly who the Triple Crown. Heard the radio commentary and had long wait as Piggott on the second Nucleus objected.
http://www.britishpathe.com/video/meld-wins-the-st-leger/query/Piggott
Wish that Mince had won today:-)
http://www.britishpathe.com/video/meld-wins-the-st-leger/query/Piggott
Wish that Mince had won today:-)
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Nice story, do you think the runner up would had won if he had got that run up the rails under LP ?
Happy Birthday - you are doing well.
- I heard on Australian Racing coverage, the other day, that former jockey Edgar Britt will be 100 at the end of October.... so you, and we all, have something to aim for.
Britt, although, Australian came to Britain to ride - and got rides at Boyd-Rochfort's (Henry Cecil's Step-Father) - and won the St Leger for Boyd-Rochfort in 1948, on BLACK TARQUIN
Boyd-Rochfort trained, your ST LEGER winner, MELD - who was ridden by Harry Carr.
Boyd-Rochfort had also won the ST LEGER in 1953, with PREMONITION -
- and won it again in 1958, with ALCIDE.
Edgar Britt retired in 1959, and returned to Australia.
- I heard on Australian Racing coverage, the other day, that former jockey Edgar Britt will be 100 at the end of October.... so you, and we all, have something to aim for.
Britt, although, Australian came to Britain to ride - and got rides at Boyd-Rochfort's (Henry Cecil's Step-Father) - and won the St Leger for Boyd-Rochfort in 1948, on BLACK TARQUIN
Boyd-Rochfort trained, your ST LEGER winner, MELD - who was ridden by Harry Carr.
Boyd-Rochfort had also won the ST LEGER in 1953, with PREMONITION -
- and won it again in 1958, with ALCIDE.
Edgar Britt retired in 1959, and returned to Australia.
Meld was my father's favourite horse. I think she achieved the filly's triple crown.
Happy Bithday.
Happy Bithday.
1955 ST LEGER
1. MELD
2. Nucleus - Lester Piggott
3. Daemon
4. Beau Prince II
8 ran - 4 were 'no-hopers'
Dist: three-quarters length.
Ante-Post FAV ACROPOLIS was not declared at the 'Overnight Decs' - having succumbed to a coughing epidemic that stopped several others from taking.
MELD, herself, had begun to cough on the morning of the race.
MELD quickened 3 furlongs from home, and looked like winning easily - However, she did not continue to pull away as expected - probably due to 'sickening for the cough' -
Piggott sensed this, as ever - and got a final flourish out of Nucleus that looked like a winning thrust.
In true Piggott style, he tried to sneak through on the rails - probably to keep the momentum going - But he had to check, switch to the outside, and with half a furlong left was unable to re-galvanise Nucleus.
Piggott probably objected to 'cover up' his Cochrane/Spencer type error of trying to win too cleverly.
1. MELD
2. Nucleus - Lester Piggott
3. Daemon
4. Beau Prince II
8 ran - 4 were 'no-hopers'
Dist: three-quarters length.
Ante-Post FAV ACROPOLIS was not declared at the 'Overnight Decs' - having succumbed to a coughing epidemic that stopped several others from taking.
MELD, herself, had begun to cough on the morning of the race.
MELD quickened 3 furlongs from home, and looked like winning easily - However, she did not continue to pull away as expected - probably due to 'sickening for the cough' -
Piggott sensed this, as ever - and got a final flourish out of Nucleus that looked like a winning thrust.
In true Piggott style, he tried to sneak through on the rails - probably to keep the momentum going - But he had to check, switch to the outside, and with half a furlong left was unable to re-galvanise Nucleus.
Piggott probably objected to 'cover up' his Cochrane/Spencer type error of trying to win too cleverly.
One of the withdrawn horses Acropolis was a favourite of mine. A big Flashy Chestnut if memory serve me right but I would still have taken Meld to beat him.
Acropolis (the name has been used a few times since) had been third 11/4f in the Derby To Phil Drake.
I backed Phil Drake at Ascot to win the King George and Queen Elizabeth Stakes where he was fav. I went over to see the start and Phil Drake arrived literally white with sweat. I knew he had no chance but there was no way to get back to the bookies to bet on another horse.
I was at Ascot the other Sunday and a young lad was ahead of me in the queue to collect his winnings after the last race. He told me it was his 20th birthday and he had backed four winners. I told him that my first visit to Ascot was on the Saturday after the Royal meeting in 1954. I wished him a Happy Birthday and hoped that he would be coming and still winning when as old as me.
My ambition is to live to 102 and die at Aintree after leading my National winner in.
Acropolis (the name has been used a few times since) had been third 11/4f in the Derby To Phil Drake.
I backed Phil Drake at Ascot to win the King George and Queen Elizabeth Stakes where he was fav. I went over to see the start and Phil Drake arrived literally white with sweat. I knew he had no chance but there was no way to get back to the bookies to bet on another horse.
I was at Ascot the other Sunday and a young lad was ahead of me in the queue to collect his winnings after the last race. He told me it was his 20th birthday and he had backed four winners. I told him that my first visit to Ascot was on the Saturday after the Royal meeting in 1954. I wished him a Happy Birthday and hoped that he would be coming and still winning when as old as me.
My ambition is to live to 102 and die at Aintree after leading my National winner in.
Happy Birthday Meld a great filly and won in spite of the virus - doing my National Service at the time - listened to the race at RAF Boulmer.
Like fillies in the St Leger and backed Cantelo a few years later when I was back in racing and in the winning stable
Like fillies in the St Leger and backed Cantelo a few years later when I was back in racing and in the winning stable
Portrack:
Cantello was one I backed all through its career.4th of four? in the Park Hill on the Thursday I still stuck with it on the Saturday and had a Yankee up with it in it with two different bookies. The others something like 12/1, 11/4 and 11/10.
I had watched the first two win before going to a football match. Bought a paper from a guy at the ground and found that Cantello had won (28/1?) Then had to wait for the Sports Final edition for the final one called Crystal Palace.
That felt like a birthday pressie as well:-)
Cantello was one I backed all through its career.4th of four? in the Park Hill on the Thursday I still stuck with it on the Saturday and had a Yankee up with it in it with two different bookies. The others something like 12/1, 11/4 and 11/10.
I had watched the first two win before going to a football match. Bought a paper from a guy at the ground and found that Cantello had won (28/1?) Then had to wait for the Sports Final edition for the final one called Crystal Palace.
That felt like a birthday pressie as well:-)
Cantelo win in St Leger very controversial - I felt sorry for Charlie Elsey - should have been a triumph for the Yorkshire trainer but got booed leading her in, didn't help that she was owned by William Hill.
She was second - odds on in the Park Hill a couple of days before
- Edward Hide her jockey had been told that if Cantelo coud win without having a hard race she would take her chance in the Leger.Piggott knew this and sat on Cantelo's tail - Cantelo a strong galloping mare hadn't set a strong enough gallop and Lester done her for a turn of foot.
A different story in the St Leger a true test of stamina and Cantelo came into her own .
William Hill came to night stables with his entourage - all the lads got a tenner - I was showing one of the horses and Ted King the head lad put the rug back and was on his way to the next box when one of Hills men stopped him and gave him an envelope with his present inside, Ted wore flannels with big pockets and tried to stuff the envelope in one of the pockets and it wouldn't go in - he was required in the next box so just stuffed it up his jumper - Ted King the most knowledgable man on horses that I ever knew - he had been headman for Elseys father.
Oldgit I think I remember her price at 100/8
She was second - odds on in the Park Hill a couple of days before
- Edward Hide her jockey had been told that if Cantelo coud win without having a hard race she would take her chance in the Leger.Piggott knew this and sat on Cantelo's tail - Cantelo a strong galloping mare hadn't set a strong enough gallop and Lester done her for a turn of foot.
A different story in the St Leger a true test of stamina and Cantelo came into her own .
William Hill came to night stables with his entourage - all the lads got a tenner - I was showing one of the horses and Ted King the head lad put the rug back and was on his way to the next box when one of Hills men stopped him and gave him an envelope with his present inside, Ted wore flannels with big pockets and tried to stuff the envelope in one of the pockets and it wouldn't go in - he was required in the next box so just stuffed it up his jumper - Ted King the most knowledgable man on horses that I ever knew - he had been headman for Elseys father.
Oldgit I think I remember her price at 100/8
Happy birthday Oldgit,i hope you have many more to celebrate.
Many happy returns/returns OG.
So take us back to putting on the bet on Meld. Was it in a betting office and did they pay up with a smile? I'm not sure about tax in those days...
So take us back to putting on the bet on Meld. Was it in a betting office and did they pay up with a smile? I'm not sure about tax in those days...
Just been looking through some old photos. My parents took me to that Leger in a pushchair. I was 3. We were on the free course about 2 furlongs out.
First Leger I remember going to was Hethersett's in 1962. It pi$$ed it down.
First Leger I remember going to was Hethersett's in 1962. It pi$$ed it down.
This day in 1955 I was emerging from my mother's womb. Two years and 10 months later they took me to Catterick in a pushchair and I was hooked.
Three things struck me, watching that film.
1. Just before 'The Off' ... A shot of the Betting ring -
Showing two well-known northern stalwarts betting/standing alongside each other - namely ....
Harry DUCKWORTH (from Blackpool, I think} - and Gus DEMMY (from Manchester)
2. The large, high, concrete Street Lamp - on the Football ground roadside - alongside the Start straight.
These have all since been removed - when the concrete started to decay - as in many buildings/blocks of Flat, aswell - and, consequently, became dangerous.
3. The horrible, large 'Slag-Heap' in the background - as the horses turn into the home straight.
1. Just before 'The Off' ... A shot of the Betting ring -
Showing two well-known northern stalwarts betting/standing alongside each other - namely ....
Harry DUCKWORTH (from Blackpool, I think} - and Gus DEMMY (from Manchester)
2. The large, high, concrete Street Lamp - on the Football ground roadside - alongside the Start straight.
These have all since been removed - when the concrete started to decay - as in many buildings/blocks of Flat, aswell - and, consequently, became dangerous.
3. The horrible, large 'Slag-Heap' in the background - as the horses turn into the home straight.
Happy Birthday Steerforth Hope you and Oldgit have many more winner filled years
Onlooker
That horrible slag heap (from Armthorpe pit) is now a country park, and the old pit top is a housing estate, where I now live.
That horrible slag heap (from Armthorpe pit) is now a country park, and the old pit top is a housing estate, where I now live.
Always enjoy these good old days type threads - as it hasn't been mentioned yet, did you know that Meld went on to be the dam of 1966 Derby winner Charlottown?
He made his debut as a 2-y-old in the Solario Stakes at Sandown, the first day I'd ever been racing with my Dad. He won by eight lengths and I predicted his Derby win (oh how little I knew then!). My Dad promised that if Charlottown did go on to win the Derby, he would stop giving me a hard time about my betting habits.
So count me in as another big fan of Meld and her son, who allowed my dad and I to enjoy many more days racing later in life.
He made his debut as a 2-y-old in the Solario Stakes at Sandown, the first day I'd ever been racing with my Dad. He won by eight lengths and I predicted his Derby win (oh how little I knew then!). My Dad promised that if Charlottown did go on to win the Derby, he would stop giving me a hard time about my betting habits.
So count me in as another big fan of Meld and her son, who allowed my dad and I to enjoy many more days racing later in life.
Oh and many happy returns Steerforth. (liked the horse you're named after too)
Anorak.
I was at Grammar School when Charlottown won the Derby. I backed it.
I took a radio to school and at the time of the race put my hand up to go to the toilet.
The race was delayed for some reason so was in the bog for about half an hour.
Got a right bolllocking when I went back in class.
I was at Grammar School when Charlottown won the Derby. I backed it.
I took a radio to school and at the time of the race put my hand up to go to the toilet.
The race was delayed for some reason so was in the bog for about half an hour.
Got a right bolllocking when I went back in class.
"So take us back to putting on the bet on Meld. Was it in a betting office and did they pay up with a smile? I'm not sure about tax in those days... "
Betting shops had not been invented. You had to bet with a street bookie or post it to Scotland. As I was away from London where I was living I gave the money to my uncle and he put it on with his bookie.
Where I worked in those day one of the girls in the office was an illegal bookies daughter and used to pass my bets on to him at lunch time or phone them to her Mum who manned the phone at home while he sat in a Pub taking bets.
When my uncle died he left me his binoculars that I still use and a £100 for a Day at the Races. Actually the £100 was used up when I was off sick for a few weeks after starting a new job and not getting paid.
Betting shops had not been invented. You had to bet with a street bookie or post it to Scotland. As I was away from London where I was living I gave the money to my uncle and he put it on with his bookie.
Where I worked in those day one of the girls in the office was an illegal bookies daughter and used to pass my bets on to him at lunch time or phone them to her Mum who manned the phone at home while he sat in a Pub taking bets.
When my uncle died he left me his binoculars that I still use and a £100 for a Day at the Races. Actually the £100 was used up when I was off sick for a few weeks after starting a new job and not getting paid.
Eddie Hide interview:
As this is a personal selection, this has to be number one. She was my first Classic winner and was also the only St Leger winner for Captain Charles Elsey, to whom I owed so much.
As the race had just been moved to a Saturday, the plan was for her to go first for the Park Hill Stakes on the Thursday.
That part didn't work out - she had been held up in her work at home by the hard ground and, though a 4-9 shot, we were pipped at the end of a slowly run race by a 33-1 chance.
Of course, that race was just what she needed, and in the Leger I made full use of her stamina by going on turning for home, winning by a length and a half from Fidalgo in course-record time.
It was brilliant to win my first Classic, particularly for the Captain, but it was slightly spoilt because of the reaction of some of the crowd, who started booing and jeering as we came back in.
I could sympathise with them. As Cantelo was owned by William Hill
, who was the country's leading bookmaker, and managed by Phil Bull, who was one of Britain's biggest gamblers, it might have appeared sinister. But, despite their betting interests, they always ran their horses absolutely straight and Cantelo's Park Hill defeat was just one of those unfortunate things.
2 1957 Ballymoss
I remember this race because it was my first ride in a Classic. I rode the favourite, Brioche, for Captain Elsey, whose other runner, Tenterhooks, was the choice of first jockey Edgar Britt.
Both had a decent chance, but as it turned out neither of us won. Edgar was well beaten, but I was third behind the mighty Ballymoss, who must have been one of the best post-war Leger winners. The following year he went on to win the Coronation Cup
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, the Eclipse, the King George and the Arc, and he was the top horse in Europe.
3 1978 Julio Mariner
My second success in the race and my sixth Classic winner. It was a memorable occasion for me and a first Classic win both for Clive Brittain and for Captain Marcos Lemos, whose Cavo Doro had finished second when I won the Derby on Morston five years earlier.
4 1984 Commanche Run
A race that I will remember as Lester's St Leger. He had the knack of getting himself on the right horse, particularly in big races.
He knew Commanche Run had a fine chance, but he also knew he was going to be ridden by the American Darrel McHargue, who was the retained jockey to Luca Cumani. Through owner Ivan Allan, who had always been a great supporter of his, Lester not only got the mount but proceeded to ride an inspired finish to win his 28th English Classic, a record he subsequently improved.
5 1970 Nijinsky
This race sticks in the memory because he became the first horse to win the Triple Crown for 35 years. Nijinsky was an outstanding racehorse
, but lost his unbeaten record next time in the Arc and was beaten again in the Champion Stakes. A son of the great Northern Dancer, he went on to become a very successful sire.
6 1985 Oh So Sharp
Trained by Henry Cecil, she is the only filly I can remember who has won the Triple Crown. I didn't realise it at the time but this was the beginning of a new era for British racing, as she was the first major winner bred by Sheikh
Mohammed and his first Classic winner.
Edward Hide was talking to Colin Russell
CAPTION(S):
Julio Mariner, a 28-1 shot, gave Edward Hide his second St Leger
As this is a personal selection, this has to be number one. She was my first Classic winner and was also the only St Leger winner for Captain Charles Elsey, to whom I owed so much.
As the race had just been moved to a Saturday, the plan was for her to go first for the Park Hill Stakes on the Thursday.
That part didn't work out - she had been held up in her work at home by the hard ground and, though a 4-9 shot, we were pipped at the end of a slowly run race by a 33-1 chance.
Of course, that race was just what she needed, and in the Leger I made full use of her stamina by going on turning for home, winning by a length and a half from Fidalgo in course-record time.
It was brilliant to win my first Classic, particularly for the Captain, but it was slightly spoilt because of the reaction of some of the crowd, who started booing and jeering as we came back in.
I could sympathise with them. As Cantelo was owned by William Hill
, who was the country's leading bookmaker, and managed by Phil Bull, who was one of Britain's biggest gamblers, it might have appeared sinister. But, despite their betting interests, they always ran their horses absolutely straight and Cantelo's Park Hill defeat was just one of those unfortunate things.
2 1957 Ballymoss
I remember this race because it was my first ride in a Classic. I rode the favourite, Brioche, for Captain Elsey, whose other runner, Tenterhooks, was the choice of first jockey Edgar Britt.
Both had a decent chance, but as it turned out neither of us won. Edgar was well beaten, but I was third behind the mighty Ballymoss, who must have been one of the best post-war Leger winners. The following year he went on to win the Coronation Cup
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
, the Eclipse, the King George and the Arc, and he was the top horse in Europe.
3 1978 Julio Mariner
My second success in the race and my sixth Classic winner. It was a memorable occasion for me and a first Classic win both for Clive Brittain and for Captain Marcos Lemos, whose Cavo Doro had finished second when I won the Derby on Morston five years earlier.
4 1984 Commanche Run
A race that I will remember as Lester's St Leger. He had the knack of getting himself on the right horse, particularly in big races.
He knew Commanche Run had a fine chance, but he also knew he was going to be ridden by the American Darrel McHargue, who was the retained jockey to Luca Cumani. Through owner Ivan Allan, who had always been a great supporter of his, Lester not only got the mount but proceeded to ride an inspired finish to win his 28th English Classic, a record he subsequently improved.
5 1970 Nijinsky
This race sticks in the memory because he became the first horse to win the Triple Crown for 35 years. Nijinsky was an outstanding racehorse
, but lost his unbeaten record next time in the Arc and was beaten again in the Champion Stakes. A son of the great Northern Dancer, he went on to become a very successful sire.
6 1985 Oh So Sharp
Trained by Henry Cecil, she is the only filly I can remember who has won the Triple Crown. I didn't realise it at the time but this was the beginning of a new era for British racing, as she was the first major winner bred by Sheikh
Mohammed and his first Classic winner.
Edward Hide was talking to Colin Russell
CAPTION(S):
Julio Mariner, a 28-1 shot, gave Edward Hide his second St Leger
Did Charlottown run in the Brighton Derby Trial?
no oldgit1...he was due to run against Sodium...but pulled out
I went there to watch him I remember
He later beat Sodium in the Derby and Oxfordshire Stakes but was beaten by him in the Irish Derby and Leger
not a lot between them
no oldgit1...he was due to run against Sodium...but pulled out
I went there to watch him I remember
He later beat Sodium in the Derby and Oxfordshire Stakes but was beaten by him in the Irish Derby and Leger
not a lot between them
Collywobble:
Hethersett was one of several horses involved in a pile up in the Derby won by Larkspur.
Hethersett was one of several horses involved in a pile up in the Derby won by Larkspur.
Ebulgery - Re Charlottown, You may be thinking of the Lingfield Derby Trial, as he did run in that. Got turned over by a 25/1 shot call Black Prince II (or III). Brian Taylor rode the winner I think and it went on to be third in the Derby behind Charlottown and Pretendre. Sodium also mentioned on here was fourth.
ebulgery - here's the report from the Glasgow Herald of Tuesday May 10, 1966, the day after the Brighton Derby Trial:-
SODIUM WINS DERBY TRIAL AT BRIGHTON
Charlottown Withdrawn.
A drab cloak of gloom wrapped itself around the Brighton Racecourse enclosures to-day when the news broke that the ante-post Derby favourite, Charlottown, was a non-runner in the Brighton Derby Trial Stakes.
Lady Zia Wernher's colt, unraced so far this season, had won each of his three races as a two-year-old, suggesting he was a worthy son of Meld, winner of the One Thousand Guineas, the Oaks, and the St Leger.
His declared running drew thousands to the course from far and wide and it was anti-climax indeed to learn that he cast himself in his box this morning injuring his near foreleg. With the Derby only 15 days away this upset in his preparation could spoil his chance, and, meanwhile, the racing public is none the wiser concerning his ability as a three-year-old.
The Brighton Trial was won, and won quite confidently, by Sodium, in the colours of Mr R. J. Sigtia from India, whom Scottish racegoers will remember winning the Ayr Gold Cup with Egualita three years ago.
When F. Durr tried to bring Sodium through on the rails he found himself justifiably shut out by the white albino Mont Blanc II. There was nothing for it but to snatch him up and switch to the outside, and in spite of this Sodium had sufficient turn of finishing speed to come away and win gamely with his ears pricked.
I like this colt. Today's race shed little light on his classic potential, but he has the beautifully balanced compact build that is an advantage at Epsom and a lot of quality with it. He is by Psidium, the Derby winner, and his dam is a full sister to Ambiguity, the Oaks winner.
Though well beaten by Right Noble at Ascot 10 days ago, Sodium was left with a wide gap to close and was coming home fast at the finish. On that and to-day's showing he should be a fair each-way proposition in the Derby at this evening's price of 12-1. Right Noble has shortened to the unattractive price of 7-2, with the Pinza colt, Democrat, also from Ireland but not to be seen in this country until the Derby, second favourite at 7-1.
After having been quoted as second favourite to Right Noble this morning, Charlottown drifted to 20-1 with Ladbroke's, and Hills took the colt out of their ante-post list altogether.
SODIUM WINS DERBY TRIAL AT BRIGHTON
Charlottown Withdrawn.
A drab cloak of gloom wrapped itself around the Brighton Racecourse enclosures to-day when the news broke that the ante-post Derby favourite, Charlottown, was a non-runner in the Brighton Derby Trial Stakes.
Lady Zia Wernher's colt, unraced so far this season, had won each of his three races as a two-year-old, suggesting he was a worthy son of Meld, winner of the One Thousand Guineas, the Oaks, and the St Leger.
His declared running drew thousands to the course from far and wide and it was anti-climax indeed to learn that he cast himself in his box this morning injuring his near foreleg. With the Derby only 15 days away this upset in his preparation could spoil his chance, and, meanwhile, the racing public is none the wiser concerning his ability as a three-year-old.
The Brighton Trial was won, and won quite confidently, by Sodium, in the colours of Mr R. J. Sigtia from India, whom Scottish racegoers will remember winning the Ayr Gold Cup with Egualita three years ago.
When F. Durr tried to bring Sodium through on the rails he found himself justifiably shut out by the white albino Mont Blanc II. There was nothing for it but to snatch him up and switch to the outside, and in spite of this Sodium had sufficient turn of finishing speed to come away and win gamely with his ears pricked.
I like this colt. Today's race shed little light on his classic potential, but he has the beautifully balanced compact build that is an advantage at Epsom and a lot of quality with it. He is by Psidium, the Derby winner, and his dam is a full sister to Ambiguity, the Oaks winner.
Though well beaten by Right Noble at Ascot 10 days ago, Sodium was left with a wide gap to close and was coming home fast at the finish. On that and to-day's showing he should be a fair each-way proposition in the Derby at this evening's price of 12-1. Right Noble has shortened to the unattractive price of 7-2, with the Pinza colt, Democrat, also from Ireland but not to be seen in this country until the Derby, second favourite at 7-1.
After having been quoted as second favourite to Right Noble this morning, Charlottown drifted to 20-1 with Ladbroke's, and Hills took the colt out of their ante-post list altogether.
I don't remember the Oxfordshire Stakes. Where was that held?
It was my birthday on Sunday as well. Yeahyeahwhatever posted this for me, it is worryingly accurate about who I am in real life!
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09 Sep 13 03:45
Happy Birthday SB - sounds like you were meant to gamble from the waffle below - hope it was a profitable birthday!
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Being born on the 8th of September fills you with plenty of ambition, adeptness and efficiency when it comes to accomplishing desired aims. You are not particularly motivated by materialistic rewards from the achievement of goals, the simple satisfaction of fulfilling a personal wish is enough. Inspiring others with their aspirations is one of your fortes and often more satisfying than effectuating your own hopes and wishes. Many of your dreams are full of idealism and envisioning fantasy situations of contentment. Other dreaming episodes could feature your desire to overcome obstacles and learn from errors.
Birthday Luck and Significance
As you were born on the eighth day of the month your birth date is awarded a linked Root number of Eight. This numerical reference to your birthday has the keyword 'Leader' identifying your expression of inspirational guidance and management ability. In the Major Arcana Tarot the 8th mystic symbol card depicting Courage is associated with your birthday. This pinpoints your fine attributes of bold determination and endurance. The lucky gemstone for September the eighth birthday is a black Pearl, to be worn as a form of protection from negativity and an increase in wisdom, vitality and prosperity.
Summation
The personalities of all zodiac Virgo's are thought to have their probabilities determined astrologically by the influence of the planet Mercury. The actual day you were born on, the eighth of September, is governed over by Saturn's authority. Hence your probable individuality is imagined to be primarily influenced by the mix of both these planets. Your fairly confident and self controlled state of mind make you levelheaded, trustworthy and accountable for your actions. Your quickness mentally and concealed but benevolently reactive sensitivity are a brilliant match and make you lovely to know. If you can attempt to be more flexible once in a while it should add to your discernment and open extra doors of opportunity. A concluding thought for people born on September the 8th is to strive to just be yourself in addition to recognizing when you are becoming too bossy or insensitive and adjusting accordingly.
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09 Sep 13 03:45
Happy Birthday SB - sounds like you were meant to gamble from the waffle below - hope it was a profitable birthday!
Birthday Persona Profile
People born specifically on the 8th of September are believed to be responsible, loyal and respectful who are cooler and calmer in a crisis than most other Virgo's. The ruling astrological planet for this particular day is Saturn bestowing you with plenty of outer confidence and composure to cloak your inner sensitivities. If you have this birthday a practical and helpful nature makes you meticulous and efficient with excellent organizational and leadership skills. Quick thinking and ambitious you tend to view problems or setbacks as simply part of life and learning. A kind heart makes you naturally caring and dependable but your high standards and expectations of others can cause you to be a tad judgmental. Individuals with a September the eighth birthday may sometimes over complicate things but are basically very pleasant, thoughtful and well adjusted. You are usually easily able to inspire and guide others with your mix of seriousness and great sense of humour.
Work and Finances
Family members can sometimes suggest and encourage certain profession choices to a person born on the eighth of September. In your youth you can be inclined to enter a career that does not really interest or satisfy in an attempt to try and please other people. Your ample levels of responsibility and calmness along with a preference to take the lead while working direct you to be capable of any type of work. You take your job seriously and are able to perform tasks equally well either as part of a team or alone. Your usual sensible attitude to spending makes it rare for you to experience financial issues.
Personal Relationships
For a Virgo, the person born on the eighth day of September is typically somewhat modest and hesitant concerning affairs of the heart. Friendships are very important to you as they allow you to form close bonds with those who share your values and beliefs. You seem to view the potential of love and romance with a soul mate using the same ideals. Under your seemingly cold, quite unemotional surface hides an incredibly warm and passionate temperament. You may have a little uncertainty about your emotions and could have difficulty expressing your feelings but you are intensely steadfast and giving in a long term relationship. A tendency to be self doubting and worrying is usually eased if you choose someone special who understands your carefully hidden vulnerabilities. Your slightly reserved front exposes a lusty sex drive that enjoys sensual massage and pampering.
Health
Fretting unduly about your own and loved ones health is commonly experienced by those born on September 8th. Your fuss concerning healthiness guides you to constantly monitor and moderate food options and exercise requirements and be knowledgeable on medical matters. Your touch of idealism can give you a proneness to stress so regular relaxation is essential to keep psychologically fit. Your good intentions although sometimes annoying can help keep the possibility of illness at bay. People born on this day often encounter their best sense of well being when they achieve the security of emotional contentment.
Strengths and Weaknesses
Your main strengths of character are presented in your composed helpfulness and the usual intense appreciativeness within your serious yet cheery disposition. These positive qualities are complimented by your reliability and the even balance expressed in your outlook and decisions. The personality weaknesses for those born on September 8th consist of the likelihood of occasional displays of an unyielding or authoritarian manner. When this negative part of your persona is activated you have the inclination to be much more likely to make silly mistakes and maybe elaborate a bit too much at these times.
Dreams and Goals
Being born on the 8th of September fills you with plenty of ambition, adeptness and efficiency when it comes to accomplishing desired aims. You are not particularly motivated by materialistic rewards from the achievement of goals, the simple satisfaction of fulfilling a personal wish is enough. Inspiring others with their aspirations is one of your fortes and often more satisfying than effectuating your own hopes and wishes. Many of your dreams are full of idealism and envisioning fantasy situations of contentment. Other dreaming episodes could feature your desire to overcome obstacles and learn from errors.
Birthday Luck and Significance
As you were born on the eighth day of the month your birth date is awarded a linked Root number of Eight. This numerical reference to your birthday has the keyword 'Leader' identifying your expression of inspirational guidance and management ability. In the Major Arcana Tarot the 8th mystic symbol card depicting Courage is associated with your birthday. This pinpoints your fine attributes of bold determination and endurance. The lucky gemstone for September the eighth birthday is a black Pearl, to be worn as a form of protection from negativity and an increase in wisdom, vitality and prosperity.
Summation
The personalities of all zodiac Virgo's are thought to have their probabilities determined astrologically by the influence of the planet Mercury. The actual day you were born on, the eighth of September, is governed over by Saturn's authority. Hence your probable individuality is imagined to be primarily influenced by the mix of both these planets. Your fairly confident and self controlled state of mind make you levelheaded, trustworthy and accountable for your actions. Your quickness mentally and concealed but benevolently reactive sensitivity are a brilliant match and make you lovely to know. If you can attempt to be more flexible once in a while it should add to your discernment and open extra doors of opportunity. A concluding thought for people born on September the 8th is to strive to just be yourself in addition to recognizing when you are becoming too bossy or insensitive and adjusting accordingly.
The Oxfordshire Stakes was (is) run at Newbury. It was renamed the Geoffrey Freer in 1969, in honour of the man who died the previous year. I thought I remembered Park Top winning it, but she's not on the list of winners, so maybe she was beaten in it.
Levmoss beat Park Top in the Oxfordshire in 68'
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