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factmachine
07 Sep 13 19:33
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TOMMO INTERVIEWING BETFRED TODAY ON THE BIG SCREEN TODAY AT HAYDOCK PARK,FRED ANNOUNCES TO ONE AND ALL AND I QUOTE,"WE DONT CON CUSTOMERS"LaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh THIS THE SAME PERSON THAT WOULDNT PAY OUT LEGITIMATE WINNING BETS PLACED WITH HIM ON BARNEY CURLEYS  COO,THAT RUNS AN OPERATION CALLED BETFRED THAT IF U TRY AND PUT ANY BET OVER £100 ON ANY SPORT THEY HAVE TO RING IT OFF BEFORE U CAN BE ON,THE SAME FIRM THAT WHEN U TRY TO GET A BET ONLINE U R LIABLE TO BE RESTRICTED TO £2 AND THATS ON A LOSING ACCOUNT,THE MAN HAS THE SKIN OF A RHINOLaughLaughLaugh
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Report homefortea September 7, 2013 7:37 PM BST
Check out the wife Big Mo she has the face of a Rhino...

The firm is rancid and have even managed to ban people from using the "Tote"....

How racing has let such an individual steal away the Crown Jewels is beyond me...
Report timvaughanfanclub September 7, 2013 9:37 PM BST
they are a rancid firm i agree tim,but i speak to mr wilshire very often,he asures me fred himself dont know whats going on,not laying etc...the area manager in south wales has been layed off for going behind his back restricting pushes on sat morning..
Report daniels mother September 8, 2013 12:03 AM BST

Sep 7, 2013 -- 9:37PM, timvaughanfanclub wrote:


they are a rancid firm i agree tim,but i speak to mr wilshire very often,he asures me fred himself dont know whats going on,not laying etc...the area manager in south wales has been layed off for going behind his back restricting pushes on sat morning..


half the staff need sacking then !! in leeds two managers wont lay over 100 even when fred himself says 200 max !!
and twice i have been offered precisely nothing( after already having 500 £ of bets )

Report jimnast September 8, 2013 7:01 AM BST
good morning dm

I can believe what Wiltshire says I use to deal with fd in the 80s and what ive seen and heard these last few years has surprised me.


good morning facts

I much bigger concern yesterday was the endless pr given to betfred and the tote from brown and thommo this just after we had paid for our 2nd year of marketing fees.
Report factmachine September 8, 2013 9:48 AM BST
UNFORTUNATELY ALMOST THE WHOLE OF THE INDUSTRY IS BEING RUN BY WHAT ONLY CAN BE DESCRIBED AS "CON MEN" 90% OF ONLINE FIRMS ARE EXACTLY THAT INCLUDING BET FRED,AND TO USE THE EXCUSE THAT THE MANAGERS ARE RESTRICTING PUNTERS WITHOUT FREDS KNOWLEDGE BEGGARS BELIEF.THE MEDIA DONT SEEM TO WANT TO KNOW AND ACTIVELY PROMOTE THIS TOSH THAT FRED AND OTHERS PUMP OUT ON A DAILY BASIS,AT LEAST MCRIRICK WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR GETTING SOME OF THE SHOPS TO GUARANTEE A PRICE(FOR £25LaughLaughLaugh)TILL TEN OCLOCK,WHEN HILLS LADS AND CORALS USED TO ADVERTISE PRICES THAT JUST WERNT AVAILABLE.ONE OF THE FEW GOOD THINGS ABOUT THE OLD NJPC WAS THE INTRODUCTION OF A SIGN WHICH EACH INDIVIDUAL BOOKMAKER DISPLAYED WHAT THEY WOULD STAND A HORSE TO LOSE,AT LEAST THE PUNTER HAD AN IDEA WHO HE COULD GET ON WITH,NOW IT SEEMS THE RULE OF THUMB IS THE BIGGER THE FIRM,THE SMALLER THE AMOUNT THEY WILL TAKE AND THAT APPLIES BOTH OFFCOURSE AND ONCOURSE.AngryAngryAngryAngry
Report factmachine September 8, 2013 9:50 AM BST
PS MORNING JIMNASTHappy
Report factmachine September 8, 2013 10:02 AM BST
ONE OF FREDS BEST STUNTS/CONS HAS TO BE WHEN HE PAID OUT ON MANCHESTER UNITED FOR THE TITLE AND THEY GOT BEAT,NOW THIS IS THE SAME MAN THAT IS A WELL KNOWN SUPPORTER OF MANUTD FRIENDS WITH SIR ALEX,YEAR ON YEAR ADVERTISES THE WORSE PRICE AVAILABLE FOR UNITED TO WIN THE TITLE YET GOT NATIONWIDE PUBLICITY FOR THE ALLEGED FORTUNE LaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughIT COST HIM,YEP FRED THEY MUST HAVE BEEN QUEUING UP TO BACK MAN UTD AT 6/4 WITH U WHEN 15/8 FREELY AVAILABLE,WHAT I CANT UNDERSTAND HIS HOW IS HE ALLOWED TO GET AWAY WITH ITLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
Report Nightfly September 8, 2013 10:15 AM BST
has cut all the totes staffs terms and conditions  leaving a very sour taste...also cut the win pool by 3%
good for racing then  ill leave that for others to judge.
Report johnnywilkinson September 8, 2013 10:44 AM BST
I THINK HE,S QUITE CUTE
Report factmachine September 8, 2013 10:48 AM BST
WHO MARTINShocked
Report johnnywilkinson September 8, 2013 10:51 AM BST
IM TALKING ABOUT FREDDDDY....NOT MOVIE STARS
Report factmachine September 8, 2013 10:53 AM BST
LaughLaughLaugh
Report Nightfly September 8, 2013 10:55 AM BST
thats an interesting term  its one i havent heard before that involves just four letters
Report johnnywilkinson September 8, 2013 10:56 AM BST
I CAN ALWAYS MOVE "E"TO A "N"
Report factmachine September 8, 2013 10:57 AM BST
YEP JOHNNY KEEPS GETTING HIS E AND N MIXED UP AND IN THE WRONG ORDERWink
Report relton September 8, 2013 11:07 AM BST
Only ever use Betfred when betting on the Tote.
Even then I hate doing so.
Apart from that never use Betfred as detest the man and his organisation.
Report Nightfly September 8, 2013 12:23 PM BST
agree with above........when he bought the tote it was to paraphrase,
yeah i know no one likes me but give me time and see me in a better light
well time has passed ..so whats the verdict people...i'm not sure its got any better or is it just me
i'll look after my diamond staff blah blah bollox,,,,hows that then?
Report chelsea girl September 8, 2013 12:39 PM BST
Who can forget the 'void' football match when he 'knocked' all the winners.Angry
Report knot in wood September 8, 2013 12:40 PM BST
the only way things might change a little is by not betting with these firms(if you can get on).
but a majority of people are naive,and just place their bets regardless of rules/conditions and price.

thompson and brown must have been cloned at birth,would sell their granny to keep in with the likes of fred.
Report factmachine September 8, 2013 4:16 PM BST
USED TO BE KNOWN AS THE BONUS KING,NOW ITS THE BOGUS KING!
Report johnnywilkinson September 8, 2013 4:17 PM BST
FREDDY THE DODGE
Report johnnywilkinson September 8, 2013 4:18 PM BST
CAN WE GET HIM ON THE BOOKMAKERS COMMITTEE
Report johnnywilkinson September 8, 2013 4:19 PM BST
YOU CAN IMAGINE HIM AT HIS OWN MEETINGS SITTING ON 3 PILLOWS .ONE OF THEM BELLS THEY USED AT THE WHEEL TAPPERS CLUB SHOUTING ......BIT O ORDER ,BIT O ORDER
Report homefortea September 8, 2013 7:37 PM BST
Loved the bit about his "managers" restricting punters on their own..

What a bunch of minimum wage chancer...

IT WAS ME WHO FIRST TERMED HIM BETFRAUD THE BOGUS KING..

My information from Warrington is that the fat chancer has (allegedly) gone senile and still thinks that Man Utd won the Title that year....
Report Racecourse Regular September 8, 2013 7:40 PM BST
''All the other firms are just a bunch of accountants so he says'....... he is different gravy
Report homefortea September 8, 2013 7:53 PM BST
And after his interview I heard that his minder took him off the racecourse and he asked...

"Is Duncan Edwards here"...

When he was told that he had died in the 1958 Plane Crash he said (allegedly) that he had not seen todays paper....
Report factmachine September 8, 2013 7:56 PM BST
LaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
Report factmachine September 8, 2013 8:28 PM BST
FRED SHOOK HANDS WITH TOMMO AFTER THE INTERVIW,5 MINS LATER TOMMO WAS COMPLAINING HE HAD LOST HIS WATCHShocked
Report halcyon days September 8, 2013 9:08 PM BST
^ and it was a ''freebie'' off Mickey Mouse !!!!!    Laugh
Report johnnywilkinson September 8, 2013 9:18 PM BST
WHEN ONE OF THE PUNTERS WON AFREE PRIZE DRAW FROM THOMMO FOR A SCORE BET THEY WENT TO PUT IT ON AND COME AWAY WITH A BET FOR £10
Report halcyon days September 8, 2013 9:22 PM BST
In Thommos world that's known as 'ten for ten!'
Report homefortea September 8, 2013 9:25 PM BST
Fred used to like boxing before he lost his memory...

He went home tonight and (allegedly) asked the fragrant Mo had he knocked anyone out today..

"No but you have knocked back another 2000 punters big boy"...
Report johnnywilkinson September 8, 2013 9:25 PM BST
DOES ANYBODY KNOW WHERE FRED GOES ON HOLIDAY .....MUST BE MOARCAMBE IN HIS DECKCHAIR WITH IS KNOTTED HANDERKERCHIEF.......HE LOOKS LIKE THE ADVERT WHEN THE LITTLE FELLAS MISSUS IS CALLED PETUNIA
Report geordie1956 September 8, 2013 9:32 PM BST
Burt & Petunia - used to like those jokey adverts for the swimming - meet Mike he swims like a fish - I'm getting old I'm afraid as I can remember adverts like this from 40 years ago & yet I struggle to remember yesterdays winners
Report johnnywilkinson September 8, 2013 9:33 PM BST
GEORDIE HES A DEAD RINGER FOR BURT AINT HE
Report harry2.1 September 8, 2013 9:41 PM BST
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/films/1964to1979/filmpage_coastguard.htm
Report geordie1956 September 8, 2013 9:47 PM BST
johnny - i got the name wrong its Joe & Petunia - told you my memory was poor - well done harry for finding the footage - but yes johnny definitely looks like Fred
Report factmachine September 8, 2013 9:49 PM BST
FRED LOOKS MORE LIKE A LYING VERSION OF GHANDI TO ME!
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