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07 Sep 13 12:10
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Really cant see this free running sort ever getting the trip over hurdles and in a race that might have more depth than first impressions this looks a huge place lay at 3ish.
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Report Deltâ June 4, 2016 5:21 PM BST
I thought that all these winning trades might be hitting it hard!
Report NOW WE KNOW June 4, 2016 5:28 PM BST
Concept 2 rower, Body Max running machine, you need to be fit if drink like we do. Love all this choice in the UK, and screw tops to speed up getting horizontal.
Report NOW WE KNOW June 4, 2016 6:14 PM BST
As expected and becoming a monster rogue. Might see him pointing next year, although he might be a tough ride a girl might be the answer.

Good result with a nice pre race drift and most of the free world layers helping out IR.

Pomerol but not quite Petrus.
Report NOW WE KNOW June 10, 2016 6:18 PM BST
Laid Ninepointsixthree @3.9 6.0 Aintree

Got the feeling that he would have won a novice by now but he is a bit tricky and happy to take on from here. It went a bit sour on the flat after a while and something about his recent performances suggest he might just be heading that way again as he has looked like winning but found a way to finish tamely.

Not a great race but although he can win just don't think he will. GL all.
Report Deltâ June 10, 2016 6:20 PM BST
Shhh! - dont tell xmoneyx Shocked
Report NOW WE KNOW June 10, 2016 6:23 PM BST
Yes delta, 6.30, things are pretty slow in deepest Somerset. Not one I would like to be relying on but good luck to him, sort of.
Report NOW WE KNOW June 10, 2016 6:41 PM BST
Frustrating in that the analysis was right up to the start and you cant help but feel he would have replicated the traits in the race.

Clearly one to be wary of but le chat a sorti le sacGrin

Vimto pas Vouvray.
Report NOW WE KNOW June 21, 2016 11:36 AM BST
Layed Double Chocolate @5.5 7.30 Newton Abbot.

Covered this old boy before and he has done well enough for this yard.

Happy to take on from this point as he has been shorter and think plenty will take him on pre race in what looks an open contest. His running style should help the IR cover as he can be both keen and lazy so he rarely runs without a little help for layers.

The one thing he should do is complete and on this ground that might equate to a placing so very much a trade rather than just stand the initial bet. GL all.
Report NOW WE KNOW June 21, 2016 7:47 PM BST
Nice pre race drift and a little surprised as to how poorly he ran. Has always been a dodgepot with the exception of stringing the odd couple of decent runs together. Looking bargepole material now.

Pouilly Fume pas Pomagne.
Report NOW WE KNOW June 30, 2016 2:00 PM BST
Laid Faraway Mountain @4.7 2.10 Perth

Trainer has a great record here but this fella looks very much worse going against now the money has come. Novices from Ireland are decent when coming here but for me this looks like one that was not good enough twice and last time appeared to have a problem.

Not impossible but this looks a tight race and he looks very tradable from here. GL all.
Report NOW WE KNOW June 30, 2016 2:22 PM BST
Bit frustrating in that with the pre race drift and plenty above lay price in running could have a have taken to green.

In fairness he was resolute when needed and just needed the company on the run in.
Would have no hesitation to be against next time in the right race.

Vimto not Vouvray.
Report NOW WE KNOW July 12, 2016 3:48 PM BST
Layed Boss Des Mottes 6.0 Worcester @ average 3.75

Looks a competitive race and in some respects a handicap might represent something of an easier task than the last chase run. He is however a horse who does not find winning easy and often starts short so just the type I like to take on.

His chase mark is fine compared to his hurdle mark but just have a feeling he is soft and looks very much worth opposing. Been longer than this so hopefully so pre race drift. GL all.
Report NOW WE KNOW July 12, 2016 6:09 PM BST
Fair enough in that he tried and ran to the line, not sure what he achieved . A small winning result but read his desire to win completely wrong.

Picpoul not Pomerol.
Report sewter lives again July 12, 2016 7:02 PM BST
Not many ran to form in that race-didnt need to do much to win.

You+Lady P ok?
Report NOW WE KNOW July 12, 2016 7:15 PM BST
Yep, the race fell apart and would take on again.

We are great, Penny has just had 7 days working with the Pakistan Womens team and then the Men, very demanding but seriously nice all of them. Middlesex a bit easier! I did 2 days at an Ironman event on Exmoor, first paid work for 15 years!

Off to San Sebastian in September and Christmas in Vietnam; might have to do some more workGrin

Looking for a horse, time to plot one up!

Hope you are all good.
Report sewter lives again July 12, 2016 7:19 PM BST
Just had 2 lovely weeks in France with Sally and Vince

flew to Limoges then stayed one week just south of Sarlat and one week at Forge Basse
Report NOW WE KNOW July 12, 2016 7:24 PM BST
I heard you had a good time. Forge Basse was on the market for 898k, just been reduced to 598k!

Property market in the champagne still in freefall, miracle we got asking priceGrin
Report sewter lives again July 12, 2016 7:31 PM BST
Yes that's what we thought you probably wouldn't get it now

couldn't get to see La Courarie as route barree from both ends but went to Marval and your local Auberge and I actually conversed in French with your friend the landlady. At first she denied all knowledge of knowing you!! She was actually in quite good humour.
Report NOW WE KNOW July 12, 2016 7:39 PM BST
She was great cabaret!! They liked us after a few years as we stayed during the winter, that always gets respect! The new owners of La Grange Etable are struggling, sad as they were great during the handover. Hopefully they will do better but the market looks saturated.
Report NOW WE KNOW July 12, 2016 7:39 PM BST
She was great cabaret!! They liked us after a few years as we stayed during the winter, that always gets respect! The new owners of La Grange Etable are struggling, sad as they were great during the handover. Hopefully they will do better but the market looks saturated.
Report sewter lives again July 12, 2016 7:44 PM BST
Any plans to go back?
Report NOW WE KNOW July 12, 2016 7:52 PM BST
We are meeting our friends Rose and Frank in September, French girl and Dutch guy at their gaff near Montbron and driving down to Donostia, hopefully get a La Liga game in either at San Seb or Bilbao. Love San Sebastian, best town in the world for bars, food and beaches.
Report Deltâ July 12, 2016 10:12 PM BST
La Grange Etable - was that yours NWK, pics look great!
Report NOW WE KNOW July 13, 2016 6:31 AM BST
Yes Delta, that was our home for 12 years. It was stunning and unique. Our business was very successful but that was not all the story. Like most old properties it was a money pit which takes the edge off the profitability but we learnt loads of skills. For example we pointed the entire exterior walls in all weathers on tiny towers!

The joke was that we still managed to leave France with a small fortune, sadly we arrived with a large oneGrin

Great times but happy to back in the UK, missed going racing, pointing especially and next season in the EPL with Burnley will be fun whatever.
Report NOW WE KNOW July 17, 2016 11:21 AM BST
Laid Ruddy Article @ average 4.4 4.20 Newton Abbott

Quite surprised to see this boy so well backed and he looks very tradable from here. Not sure if he was in another stable that he would be this price.

He does go from the front so hoping for some pre race drift but just think he looks vunerable off 120 with two concerns, jumping and the fact that he can take quite a pull.

The race itself looks open with no horse making a compelling case but happy to take on from here. GL all.
Report NOW WE KNOW July 17, 2016 4:38 PM BST
Looks pretty difficult in the sense that he pulled hard, jumped ok but failed to see his race out. really don't see him as a 120 horse and can see him leaving this yard and he might go pointing. 

Fair result as the market finally took him on and the IR was helpful when he was given a more patient ride.

Fleurie not Fanta.
Report NOW WE KNOW July 20, 2016 4:13 PM BST
told ya so.
Report Deltâ July 20, 2016 4:33 PM BST
retire it!
Report NOW WE KNOW July 20, 2016 4:41 PM BST
Yes Delta, it feels a bit like when we had our cat put downGrin

They could always put it in a 2 mile hurdle at Stratford, I place lay it. They say history has a habit of repeating.
Report NOW WE KNOW July 26, 2016 8:58 AM BST
Laid Kashmir Peak @4.5 6.10 Worcester

Interesting move up in trip and fences for the first time so a degree of guesswork needed. Even after the change of stable for me he still looks to be on the down grade and happy to take on from this price.

The race itself is a decent little contest with 6 possible winners and in many ways reflects how competitive summer jumping has become.

Likely imo to drift from here and if given a confidence boosting quiet ride hopefully some cover trades IR should be matched. GL all.
Report NOW WE KNOW July 26, 2016 6:22 PM BST
Well he does not look like a chaser, on that evidence not brave enough and the connections probably took the price in. Would oppose next time over hurdles or fences.

Only a modest winner as the mental side of betting took over where early trades were matched above and then a wall of money but 100 per cent day so far.

Pomerol not Petrus.
Report Johnyboydarts180 July 26, 2016 6:27 PM BST
Excellent..once again..Now We Know
laid it around 4.1 to lose about £150
won £46.plus  many thanks..  await the next one
Report Johnyboydarts180 July 26, 2016 6:29 PM BST
2016-07-26
18:18    71736024329    2016-07-26
17:46    GB Worc 26th Jul / 18:10 2m7f Chs / Kashmir Peak
Lay         4.00    49.00    Won         49.00    196.75
Report Johnyboydarts180 July 26, 2016 6:30 PM BST
2016-07-26
18:18    71736024329    2016-07-26
17:46    GB Worc 26th Jul / 18:10 2m7f Chs
Comm Charged 4.9% On Net winnings of GBP49         -    -    -    (2.40)
Report NOW WE KNOW July 26, 2016 6:31 PM BST
Thanks Jbd and WD, not very brave as having nicked a nice bit trading flat races which I have only a limited grasp of went too cautious. No need to greedy the jump season comes soon enough.
Report NOW WE KNOW August 1, 2016 11:03 AM BST
Laid La Asomada @4.3 2.45 Ripon

Covered this one before and he could win but he is for the most part a horse who has flattered on numerous occasions and has been beaten in sellers so hardly a drop in grade.

Has been longer so hopefully some pre race drift. The IR might be tough as he can travel well and look to be doing so but more than happy to take on from here and this looks a tradable starting point on this one. GL all.
Report NOW WE KNOW August 1, 2016 2:55 PM BST
Always a chance he would get it right one day and won easily enough. Interesting to see if they try to keep him. Pre race market gave a small winning trade so no damage done.

Muscadet not Moet.
Report sewter lives again August 1, 2016 3:42 PM BST
Hello NWK
Have a look at a long priced one tonight Red Forever 6.45 Carlisle.
Report NOW WE KNOW August 1, 2016 4:55 PM BST
Will do.
Report NOW WE KNOW August 1, 2016 5:33 PM BST
Interesting runner sla. Pretty clearly aimed at the same race and likes the track so good luck and some value.
Report sewter lives again August 1, 2016 6:02 PM BST
handicapped by A.Berry!!!!

the run first time for these connections was much better than it looks-up with a strong pace then dropped back just over a furlong out but finished strongly to be beaten just over a length-the horse was first to the "pick up".

Some decent runs on the ground off higher marks as well
Report NOW WE KNOW August 1, 2016 6:08 PM BST
Fair enough, did just look at the last few runs but not the connections. Could be interesting as it has the look of a live one.

Not for me as I only back good horses who run simple, consistent races giving you the chance to bail out IR! What happened to the fearless gambler when Now We Know and Honeybed Wood, Asparagus etc were plotted up!
Report sewter lives again August 1, 2016 6:30 PM BST
.... but occasionally you can have a go especially when it's 33s and 7/8s a place
Report NOW WE KNOW August 1, 2016 6:39 PM BST
Yep, a little risk is fine. I think I am locked up in the relentless pursuit of boring but moderately successful trading and leave the risk taking to the stock market and currencies. The last time I had a significant bet on an outsider was Modeligo at Chepstow and he ended up favourite!
Report themover August 4, 2016 5:07 PM BST
Race 200 ... 4.7 to place Happy
Report NOW WE KNOW August 4, 2016 5:10 PM BST
laid 2tpGrin
Report Deltâ August 4, 2016 5:12 PM BST
needs to go back to Fakenham ...
Report NOW WE KNOW August 4, 2016 5:13 PM BST
Needs a rest home. So did I when he won at StratfordGrin
Report NOW WE KNOW August 11, 2016 10:56 AM BST
Layed Ruddy Article @ average 4.75 2.0 Worcester

Covered this one before and although not impossible he looks worth taking on again from this starting point.

His mark remains the same despite some tame finishing efforts so no relief there. The drop back in trip might help but just have a strong feeling that he will not see out what looks like being a competitive and truly run race. Add in the fact that he pulls and is not the greatest jumper and he looks worth being against.

Fair race and have the feeling that like Beau Phil if he was in a different yard he would be a much bigger price. GL all.
Report Deltâ August 11, 2016 11:09 AM BST
Morning NWK

I bought a wine yesterday to try - have you heard of it?


matured in large clay jars and then buried in the earth for months Shocked


M&S dont you know ...


http://www.marksandspencer.com/tblvino-quevris/p/p60053880?&pdpredirect
Report Deltâ August 11, 2016 11:11 AM BST
I will be looking for


Tbilvino Qvevris - not Tizer


to end one of your successes soon ...
Report NOW WE KNOW August 11, 2016 11:23 AM BST
Crikey Delta is there not enough choice out there without digging this one up. Probably very good and will get a bottle as M and S will have done their research. Really interesting that that area and across to the Lebanon make some great wine but not easy to find and have enough choice of price ranges to try a variety.

Getting some Isla De Negra today according to text message received at 9 squidies for 2 for the Sauvignon Blanc, think she is hovering it up from Tesco. The Chardonnay was great.
Report NOW WE KNOW August 11, 2016 12:19 PM BST
Isla Negra, Chile. Tesco, goes well with Spam.
Report RozelKid August 11, 2016 1:26 PM BST
Johnnie skull running in jersey within the next week
Report NOW WE KNOW August 11, 2016 1:44 PM BST
Interesting RozelKid, thought he need a holiday somewhere nice. Not quite what I was thinking.
Report NOW WE KNOW August 11, 2016 2:13 PM BST
Fairly predictable and would be very surprised if he did not have a problem. Looks gutless and triples but always starts short because of connections.

Not sure a drop to 115 would make much difference and as before think he would be better suited going back to pointing.

Should have something interesting tonite at Stratford, great to see some jump racing back.

Tbilvino Qvevris - not Tizer
Report NOW WE KNOW August 11, 2016 2:13 PM BST
Tripless.
Report Deltâ August 11, 2016 2:16 PM BST
oi oi 

tasting notes


gentle fruity and floral characters combine with the tang of dry sherry, hic!
Report NOW WE KNOW August 11, 2016 2:21 PM BST
I went out with a bird who had those aromas.
Report Deltâ August 11, 2016 2:26 PM BST
is it a Sheppard @ Stratford one?
Report NOW WE KNOW August 11, 2016 2:42 PM BST
No delta although Sylvan Legend looks vunerable and Mazovian must be a place lay. Looks like we are off to the cricket at Cardiff so probably wont post as managing the position gets tough.
Report Deltâ August 17, 2016 2:28 PM BST
NB - 25% off 6 or more Waitrose till Tuesday... - free delivery
Report NOW WE KNOW August 17, 2016 3:19 PM BST
Thanks Delta, impossible to park at Waitrose, Wellington, too many tractors so delivery a good option.
Report sewter lives again August 17, 2016 7:22 PM BST
I have a really good tip for you NWK

Don't park in the car park at Sophia Gardens
Report NOW WE KNOW August 17, 2016 7:29 PM BST
5.60! Only a tenner to get in so not so bad. It was a total nightmare but softened by backing the Yorkies.

Have had a few speculative squidies on Itktiview. The horse is a total rogue but he is fresh and well and this will be the time to catch him.

He might also chuck it but a fair little punt if he fancies it.
Report sewter lives again August 17, 2016 7:34 PM BST
A shame we didnt know you were there as well.

Glamorgan were shocking badly beaten in every department-the tone was set by Rudolph's ridiculous dropped catch in the first over
Report NOW WE KNOW August 17, 2016 7:47 PM BST
It was spur of the moment, an hour to cross the bridge as well. We could have flown to Corfu with all the delays added up.
Report sewter lives again August 17, 2016 7:57 PM BST
have taken your advice re Iktiview
Report sewter lives again August 17, 2016 7:59 PM BST
Win@19 Place@4
Report NOW WE KNOW August 17, 2016 8:12 PM BST
Well he was fresh and well but he wont improve on that for fitness so looks like we wont get a win out him. Traded it for a modest profit but thought he would be competitive till at least 2 out.
Report NOW WE KNOW August 31, 2016 5:14 PM BST
Laid Wiffy Chatsby @4.5 5.40 Newton Abbott

Speaks for itself in that a consistent horse who starts short but finds winning very hard, just the type that are worth opposing. The change of headgear might work so that is an unknown but the race looks fiendishly tough to work out and this looks a good starting point as I would think there will be money put up against this one. GL all.
Report NOW WE KNOW August 31, 2016 5:53 PM BST
Very predictable. Plenty of MPs would have liked wearing all that gear and they would have at least of enjoyed it.

Typical of his type and a horse Betfair is made for in that you can take it on and feel fairly confident that there will a chance to reduce losses at some stage.

Not a great result as most of the pre race market was unhelpful but profitable none the less.

Picpoul not Pomerol.
Report NOW WE KNOW September 4, 2016 11:49 AM BST
Laid Milrow @4.55 average 2.50 Fontwell.

Not a total shock that headgear is being applied as he is beginning to look like he is going the same way as he did on the flat. Equally not a surprise he won on hurdles debut but he looks worth being against today in what is a fair race.

Slight worry is that he will go from the front again which makes IR trades tough to get match but if he jumps as he has done that should do the trick. GL all.
Report NOW WE KNOW September 4, 2016 12:03 PM BST
Also don't think the uphill finish and wide open spaces of the run in will suit!
Report NOW WE KNOW September 4, 2016 3:01 PM BST
As expected, looks like the first time run was the time to catch him. Not difficult to understand the purchase as he is an edgy type that can really take to hurdles but don't see much happening from here.

Nice result.

Brouilly not Blue Nun.
Report Deltâ September 4, 2016 3:03 PM BST
my guess would be that you havent had Blue Nun since 1985
Report NOW WE KNOW September 4, 2016 3:06 PM BST
Well Delta there is enough out there to avoid BN so a good guess.
Report Deltâ September 4, 2016 3:10 PM BST
or a Black Tower or Mateus rosé

oh the choice we use to have ...
Report NOW WE KNOW September 4, 2016 3:17 PM BST
So much choice now I can reveal the truth of why we left France. We worked out that moving to a country with the highest proportion of screw top wine on sale would add 3 years to our drinking lifetime.Grin
Report NOW WE KNOW September 12, 2016 9:33 AM BST
Laid Bayston Hill @4.8 1.50 Brighton

Pretty much everything you need to know with this fella is in the numbers. Consistent and does try but just cant find a way to win. Can see the logic of trying to win a weak Brighton maiden but there are a few unexposed types which is also the problem with the nursery route.

Not impossible but happy to take on from this price.

GL all.
Report Deltâ September 12, 2016 9:36 AM BST
Julias thought on hers in the race  - 5th in, in the betting!


Our first representative will be Pitch High as he travels down to Brighton on Monday. He ran a promising race on debut and then showed nothing next time out but I have the feeling that the ground may have been too firm for him that day so hopefully the rain that has recently fell over Brighton will help him out this time. He is quite a big horse so I would be a bit worried about him handling the track's unique lumps and bumps but he will qualify for a handicap rating after this and should progress with time.
Report NOW WE KNOW September 12, 2016 9:47 AM BST
She could have just said. Not Off.
Report NOW WE KNOW September 12, 2016 1:58 PM BST
Well, credit to the horse as he was in the firing line and could have chucked it. The market was friendly so a small winner and hopefully get a chance to take him on again.

Muscadet not Mersault.
Report Deltâ September 12, 2016 9:09 PM BST
The Stewards considered the apparent improvement in form of the winner, BAYSTON HILL, ridden by Daniel Muscutt and trained by Mark Usher, compared with its previous run at Salisbury on 19 August 2016 where the gelding finished eighth of nine, beaten 24 lengths. They noted the trainer’s representative’s explanation that the gelding had been better suited by returning to 7 furlongs and quicker ground. They ordered BAYSTON HILL to be routine tested.
Report NOW WE KNOW September 13, 2016 8:19 AM BST
Bit harsh Delta! With that exception always runs some sort of race, that is really unnecessary imo.
Report NOW WE KNOW September 16, 2016 11:04 AM BST
Laid Beau Phil @ average 2.66 1.50 Newton Abbott.

Hood back on which seems appropriate for this bandit. Clearly he can win but this looks a great price to take on this fella. He has run ok races but can be lazy and  see both opposition pre race and IR which would be helpful as he may go from the front.

Would be helpful with a more competitive edge to the race but there are 2 that can win and it should be a profitable trade. GL all.
Report NOW WE KNOW September 16, 2016 2:08 PM BST
Frustrating race in that the pre race market ruined the chance of a profitable trade with too many bailouts under the price layed. The IR nearly turned it round but a loser.

The horse remains a rogue and hopefully another run soon should balance things up.

Severn Trent not Sancerre.
Report NOW WE KNOW November 5, 2016 5:03 PM GMT
NOW WE KNOW
28 Aug 14 14:46
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Pretty much as expected in that she look a little dangerous but there are plenty out there who know her well and the IR was matched and the pre race.

Good result and not easy to work her out as she trying but she did have a well documented problem so maybe just feeling something. if that problem is nothing serious a spin over hurdles although unlikely on pedigree might be interesting.
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On Demand Fllas!
Report sewter lives again November 5, 2016 10:22 PM GMT
didn't think they could score 3 goals in a month let alone in one match

but you didn't either?
Report NOW WE KNOW November 6, 2016 6:58 AM GMT
Against the modest teams we will score goals; quite simply because the new signings with Gray and Vokes are all good enough for the EPL. I would be surprised if we don't stay up but losing Kean in the January window would be a serious blow.
Report NOW WE KNOW April 25, 2017 7:14 PM BST
Blimey, the boy is backGrin
Report themover April 25, 2017 7:21 PM BST
Cool
Report themover April 25, 2017 7:27 PM BST
wd Jonnie...like finding money in the street Laugh

25-Apr-17
19:24:44    19:25 Brighton
Jonnie Skull - Each Way
Betfair Bet ID 1:91147186247 | Matched: 25-Apr-17 19:24:45    Back    25.00
Report NOW WE KNOW April 25, 2017 7:31 PM BST
Good stuff themover. He ran a blinder but doubt if he will repeat it but who cares. Nice thing about UK racing is that there are races for these boys and they get so well looked after.
Report Deltâ May 8, 2017 3:16 PM BST
top rated in the seller tomorrow


shall we buy him when he wins Grin
Report NOW WE KNOW May 9, 2017 2:03 PM BST
No Delta. I prefer versatile horses with more mileage.
Report NOW WE KNOW May 9, 2017 2:20 PM BST
Still looks bit green to me. Made a stunning 455 on him trading. Pence.
Report Deltâ May 9, 2017 2:30 PM BST
put a claim in
Report themover May 9, 2017 2:30 PM BST
Cool
Report NOW WE KNOW May 9, 2017 2:36 PM BST
No Delta, Mark Hoad scared me when I put a claim in for Oulton Broad at Hereford. His ol man had form. Weight Watchers class at Lingfield was fun.
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