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nineiron
12 Jun 13 13:18
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Which list does the one to one allocation of new areas
Come off

Doncaster 16th June tatts and silver

Newton abbot 25th June tatts and rails mechanism

Who decides or is it the new location of the ring

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By:
nineiron
When: 12 Jun 13 21:58
No political books about
By:
545APG
When: 12 Jun 13 22:18
Is it covered in the contracts for Silver ring books to come into Tatts?
By:
wasnot
When: 13 Jun 13 08:06
Isn't that area part of the silver ring on Sunday? So it is the tatts books getting the opportunity to bet in the silver ring?
By:
jimnast
When: 13 Jun 13 08:26
good question who decides ?
By:
nineiron
When: 13 Jun 13 08:34
In Newton abbots case I think the entrance to the middle
Is via the silver ring therefore aren't they the books affected

Also lower tatts pitches pay same fee as tatts so should
The mechanism not be 1 : 1 : 1
Rails tatts lower tatts
By:
Deltâ
When: 13 Jun 13 08:36
horse ran well in the last the other day i thought jimnast...
By:
jimnast
When: 13 Jun 13 08:40
Blush
By:
jimnast
When: 13 Jun 13 08:41
nineiron

picking 2 batteries up at York on Friday for you.
By:
nineiron
When: 13 Jun 13 08:43
Fantastic cheers pedro
Ill call u later
By:
jimnast
When: 13 Jun 13 08:48
ok
By:
jimnast
When: 13 Jun 13 09:03
I see royal ascot are allowing 3000 less in tatts plus found a new area for another 1500,an area which will be serviced by the new tote operator.
By:
IanP
When: 13 Jun 13 09:33
nineiron re NA.  That's exactly the same problem we had at Windsor a few years ago.  Despite the access to the other side of the track being through the silver ring, it was the tatts/rails who were allowed to bet there. It was changed a couple of years later but only, I suspect, after the rails/tatts bookmakers found it to be no good !!
By:
oldandwise
When: 13 Jun 13 09:45
Any new area pitches should come from the list relating to the enclosure in which the new pitches are situated. Where that is not clear (ie if the new area is in a place that was never an enclosure as such at all) the Windsor precedent - the one that was accepted from a point of principle - was that the admission price to the public who are allowed into that area should govern which ring of bookmakers it relates to.

In other words, if the public are paying silver ring prices to access an altogether new area then the area should be serviced by silver ring bookmakers. If they are paying Tatts or club prices it would point towards the area being one that should be serviced under the 1-1 by Tatts and rails lists.
By:
nineiron
When: 13 Jun 13 09:50
How does that affect lower tatts paying the same price ie
Newbury Beverley Brighton etc
By:
wasnot
When: 13 Jun 13 09:56
Unfortunately the only mechanism in the contracts is the one-on-one tatts/rails for new areas, regardless of how fair it is.  There is nothing in the contracts giving a tatts/silver mechanism.
By:
adge
When: 13 Jun 13 09:58
the silver ring books at Doncaster seem to have worked a blinder with this ruling , which has not been consulted with anyone to my knowledge.
the area indicated on the agt website are the cobbles in tatts [ the old 2nd ring area ]. it will be interesting to find out what badge the silver ring books pay plus what agt fee as they will only have paid a silver ring badge on entry to the racecourse
By:
adge
When: 13 Jun 13 10:03
I am assuming that as a sunday it is normal fot tatts ring to be deserted and the silver ring packed [ they hope ] so the gate from the silver is open and this area is on a one off basis part of the silver but ALL books choosing to bet there should pay exactly the same fee surely.
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