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Hi ratings fans, as you are all aware I have had 2 threads recently that have had pretty poor results and many reasons
contributed to this situation but I have complete confidence in rating horse races beyond the scope of market
pricing or traditional tipping methods as I have used computers for many years as a hobby to observe how the numbers
all fit together.
This thread is a prequel to a blog I will be starting soon that many followers will enjoy but before this occurs
I would like to demonstrate my ratings skills in this thread for your pleasure and amazement.
Before I give you todays ratings here are some honest announcements
1.....The "beat the books" thread was a disaster as I had a bug in the formulations that ment the risky improvement factor was over-played
hence a drop in profits as this type of rating is a good base for laying(over-improvers)
2.....The next thread the "revenge of the pink pather" ended up about 30-40 points down over-all and I will post the full
results in that thread before the end of the week. The reason why it wasn't making a profit is as follows
(a)....The fixed formulations hadnt been adjusted or tested to find the best set up-
(b)....Because of inaccuracies the top 2 were used when only a single selection should be considered in most races.
(c).....The NH races do not seem to be profitable except for certain easy tracks and the top meetings that have the best horses.
3.....This new thread will run for a couple of weeks and provided it goes into profit then I will start a blog so that
we can escape the keyboard warriors that have nothing better todo than act like littlle spoilt brats with a computer
and mess up the entire thread.
4.....Please ignore certain keyboard warriors that post the losses in ISP from my first thread as some kind of hallmark when
this thread had huge problems related to the rating application formuations.
5.....Please be aware that all ratings carry risk so only bet what you can cheerfully afford to lose.
6....Those that dont bet or dont like seeing profits then please dont read this thread , thank you.
2:00 » Princess Cammie 3
2:30 » Banreenahreenkah 30
3:00 » Verse Of Love 25
3:30 » Angels Calling 50
4:00 » Girl Of Cadiz 54
4:30 » Shaishee 29
5:00 Highlife Dancer 21
2:10 » Lilo Lil 45
2:40 » Different 55
3:10 » George Cinq 55
3:40 » Princess Of Orange 32
4:10 » Malekat Jamal 50
4:40 » Redoute Star 57
5:10 Zafaraban 16
2:20 » Marishi Ten 54
2:50 » Aphrodite Spirit 43
3:20 » Could Be 48
3:50 » Jolly Roger 12
4:20 » Ivanhoe 50
4:50 » Ocean Legend 15
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contributed to this situation but I have complete confidence in rating horse races beyond the scope of market
pricing or traditional tipping methods as I have used computers for many years as a hobby to observe how the numbers
all fit together.
This thread is a prequel to a blog I will be starting soon that many followers will enjoy but before this occurs
I would like to demonstrate my ratings skills in this thread for your pleasure and amazement.
Before I give you todays ratings here are some honest announcements
1.....The "beat the books" thread was a disaster as I had a bug in the formulations that ment the risky improvement factor was over-played
hence a drop in profits as this type of rating is a good base for laying(over-improvers)
2.....The next thread the "revenge of the pink pather" ended up about 30-40 points down over-all and I will post the full
results in that thread before the end of the week. The reason why it wasn't making a profit is as follows
(a)....The fixed formulations hadnt been adjusted or tested to find the best set up-
(b)....Because of inaccuracies the top 2 were used when only a single selection should be considered in most races.
(c).....The NH races do not seem to be profitable except for certain easy tracks and the top meetings that have the best horses.
3.....This new thread will run for a couple of weeks and provided it goes into profit then I will start a blog so that
we can escape the keyboard warriors that have nothing better todo than act like littlle spoilt brats with a computer
and mess up the entire thread.
4.....Please ignore certain keyboard warriors that post the losses in ISP from my first thread as some kind of hallmark when
this thread had huge problems related to the rating application formuations.
5.....Please be aware that all ratings carry risk so only bet what you can cheerfully afford to lose.
6....Those that dont bet or dont like seeing profits then please dont read this thread , thank you.
2:00 » Princess Cammie 3
2:30 » Banreenahreenkah 30
3:00 » Verse Of Love 25
3:30 » Angels Calling 50
4:00 » Girl Of Cadiz 54
4:30 » Shaishee 29
5:00 Highlife Dancer 21
2:10 » Lilo Lil 45
2:40 » Different 55
3:10 » George Cinq 55
3:40 » Princess Of Orange 32
4:10 » Malekat Jamal 50
4:40 » Redoute Star 57
5:10 Zafaraban 16
2:20 » Marishi Ten 54
2:50 » Aphrodite Spirit 43
3:20 » Could Be 48
3:50 » Jolly Roger 12
4:20 » Ivanhoe 50
4:50 » Ocean Legend 15
5:20 Trending 40
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2:00 » Princess Cammie 3
2nd at 18.4 Wink enjoy and all the best
but it didn't win
2nd at 18.4 Wink enjoy and all the best
but it didn't win
NORMAL SERVICE RESUMED - THREAD STARTED AND LOST- SECOND THREAD STARTED AND LOST - NOW A NEW DECEPTION ATTEMPT
State Of Play - From 27/3/2013 to 29/4/2013 - 32 actual betting days
782 races
1,107 selections
939 losers - 85%
168 winners - 15%
ISP Returns
£1,107 staked - £337.74 lost or 30.51%
BSP Returns
£1,107 staked - £246.63 lost or 22.28% - 5% commission deducted
Averages
24 races per day
35 bets per day
5 wins per day
30 losers per day
Losing £11.00 per day or 31% of stakes daily
Also 89 of the winners or 53% were favourites, with 24 or 14% being odds on.
State Of Play - From 27/3/2013 to 29/4/2013 - 32 actual betting days
782 races
1,107 selections
939 losers - 85%
168 winners - 15%
ISP Returns
£1,107 staked - £337.74 lost or 30.51%
BSP Returns
£1,107 staked - £246.63 lost or 22.28% - 5% commission deducted
Averages
24 races per day
35 bets per day
5 wins per day
30 losers per day
Losing £11.00 per day or 31% of stakes daily
Also 89 of the winners or 53% were favourites, with 24 or 14% being odds on.
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X FACTOR Professional series of racing tips > thread 4> 29-12-12
Above was deserted after only 4 days, showing losses each day.
Day 1 - Selections 18 - Loss - 27.20% - £4.90
Day 2 - Selections 18 - Loss - 80.55% - £14.50
Day 3 - Selections 16 - Loss - 65.73% - £10.52
Day 4 - Selections 30 - Loss - 29.01% - £8.70
Above was deserted after only 4 days, showing losses each day.
Day 1 - Selections 18 - Loss - 27.20% - £4.90
Day 2 - Selections 18 - Loss - 80.55% - £14.50
Day 3 - Selections 16 - Loss - 65.73% - £10.52
Day 4 - Selections 30 - Loss - 29.01% - £8.70
You wont be able to do this on my blog losers so enjoy your wares while you can
2 seconds already and only the top jockeys on the favourites could stop them but
this wont be the case all afternoon...
2 seconds already and only the top jockeys on the favourites could stop them but
this wont be the case all afternoon...
Betfair should ban bf_fananatic, everyone knows that he's looking to dupe anyone foolish enough to believe his ramblings.
Have you got the "almanac thread" profits handy anyone or have you all
magically lost the results?
Plus £139 level pound stakes over a few weekends only
have you got the recent Cheltenham festival profits handy or have you
magically lost them
Plus £64 pound level stakes over 4 days...
magically lost the results?
Plus £139 level pound stakes over a few weekends only
have you got the recent Cheltenham festival profits handy or have you
magically lost them
Plus £64 pound level stakes over 4 days...
BLUE HALO Professional series of racing tips
Another thread that was deserted when losses became embarrassing.
He's the forum equivalent of the guy that throws the tax demand or demand for payment letters into a drawer, if he can't see them, they don't exist, but in this case it's other forumites that he doesn't want to see his losses, remember in his own words, these tips will lead to "riches" from mugs who will pay for them, and that's you if you take this guy seriously, you're a prospective paying mug, that's, again in his own words we are only "inferior chimps" compared to him.
Nothing has changed since he first came on here, Greyhounds didn' work, even when he thought picking winners from just 6 was a cinch.
His words below is still his aim.
"Persons interested in these ratings supplied on a regular basis can private message me for
terms once you have reviewed the performance of thee tips on this thread . tally ho."
Another thread that was deserted when losses became embarrassing.
He's the forum equivalent of the guy that throws the tax demand or demand for payment letters into a drawer, if he can't see them, they don't exist, but in this case it's other forumites that he doesn't want to see his losses, remember in his own words, these tips will lead to "riches" from mugs who will pay for them, and that's you if you take this guy seriously, you're a prospective paying mug, that's, again in his own words we are only "inferior chimps" compared to him.
Nothing has changed since he first came on here, Greyhounds didn' work, even when he thought picking winners from just 6 was a cinch.
His words below is still his aim.
"Persons interested in these ratings supplied on a regular basis can private message me for
terms once you have reviewed the performance of thee tips on this thread . tally ho."
| P&L (5% Com) | Runners | |
| May 21 | -52.479 | 127 |
| May 22 | -24.835 | 79 |
| May 23 | 31.544 | 130 |
| May 24 | 54.2955 | 204 |
| May 25 | -62.4805 | 257 |
| May 26 | -10.2265 | 269 |
| May 27 | 1.324 | 41 |
| May 28 | -31.46 | 189 |
| May 29 | -17.29 | 229 |
| May 30 | -1.13 | 192 |
| Totals | -112.7375 | 1511 |
try it holywell as its a forum and perhaps all you idiots should read what a forum is
as it certainly inst your little playground to bully folk in!
as it certainly inst your little playground to bully folk in!
You wont be able to do this on my blog losers so enjoy your wares while you can
Why can't you just fook off to your blog now
Why can't you just fook off to your blog now
5 Please be aware that all ratings carry risk so only bet what you can cheerfully afford to lose.
6....Those that dont bet or dont like seeing profits then please dont read this thread , thank you.
would you expect someone to risk money, when you dont bet your own selections....doesnt exactly inspire confidence
6....Those that dont bet or dont like seeing profits then please dont read this thread , thank you.
would you expect someone to risk money, when you dont bet your own selections....doesnt exactly inspire confidence
Worry not KOI nobody is the only fecker following the blog. And he don't bet
Almanac lost - FACT. full of aftertiming.
What about your infamous pick 3 to your advised £100 a point thread- abandoned at plus £15,000 losses
Your thread at the start of the flat last year Doncaster meeting where you were picking 4 a race - LOSSES.
What about your infamous pick 3 to your advised £100 a point thread- abandoned at plus £15,000 losses
Your thread at the start of the flat last year Doncaster meeting where you were picking 4 a race - LOSSES.
bf,
You've been exposed as someone looking to defraud Betfair users, you shoul be banned.
You've been exposed as someone looking to defraud Betfair users, you shoul be banned.
6....Those that dont bet or dont like seeing profits then please dont read this thread , thank you.
How are you going to contribute to the thread then?
How are you going to contribute to the thread then?
Who are you trying to kid anyway bf_fananatic?
You are never going to move these on to a blog, because you know no-one will read it. Then all those hours spent sat up until 4am playing with your spreadsheets will feel even more worthless than they already are to you.
You are never going to move these on to a blog, because you know no-one will read it. Then all those hours spent sat up until 4am playing with your spreadsheets will feel even more worthless than they already are to you.
can people hit the report button in his opening post and report it under scam/phishing. thanks.
bf your heading for a ban off here ,just **** off you prick,no one likes you
do you think people are as daft as you,this is the 3rd thread in a month and still no profit,seriously give your head a wobble...fu k I n ejoot
he's doing alright today in fairness, just a slight loss
21 bets, 19 losers, 2 winners, staked 21.00, lost 10.75 or 51% of stakes
a peach of a quote from GTG
You're playing dangerous laying his selections.
You're playing dangerous laying his selections.
for our pleasure and amazement!! lol this has to be the biggest and longest wind up i ever heard,please say it is bf??
I've dealt with you teapot000 on your thread, when put into context, without you copying/pasting a selective few words, all people will see that before I realised you were a hambone and playing with monopoly money, it was intended as a piece of very intelligent advice, that laying his 2 selections in two small fields or any 2 is the road to the poorhouse. Now you've proved yourself to be clueless, it was advice that would never have been understood by you in the first place, let alone heeded.
Keep posting, I'm enjoying this.
Keep posting, I'm enjoying this.
Is it just me dreaming or has the lunatic finally been given the heave ho?
he cant really have gone ,,,, can he ?hes been a major part of my short time in scotland ... i thought if he wasnt here we would have to invent him ...
wish me luck as i wave you goodbye ,,, cherio her i go on my way ,,, im not good at endings
Captain Christy ,,, are you a maggie maggie maggie supporter repeating her well balanced words after the falklands ,,,,victory .
The probability of a certain horse winning can never be known with perfect accuracy.
This would entail knowing precisely the details of every variable with a bearing on its chance of winning - its blood white cell count, how it was feeling before the race, the “vibes” it was picking up from its jockey, whether it had digested its last meal adequately and so on , almost ad infinitum.
Calculating prior chances for every horse in the race is a very, very uncertain process.
It depends first on the quality of the information that is fed to the computer which calculates, next on the ingenuity of the measures used to estimate various aspects of the horse’s fitness and ability and the connections’ will to win and finally on the sophistication of the calculating algorithm.
Thus a calculation can be made based simply on ability factors, but it will never reflect the actual chance of that horse winning accurately. More factors can be added to the equation, but the estimation will still be inaccurate. Even if figures are re-jigged at the last minute to account for odds and market movements, the figures will still fall short of perfection.
This would entail knowing precisely the details of every variable with a bearing on its chance of winning - its blood white cell count, how it was feeling before the race, the “vibes” it was picking up from its jockey, whether it had digested its last meal adequately and so on , almost ad infinitum.
Calculating prior chances for every horse in the race is a very, very uncertain process.
It depends first on the quality of the information that is fed to the computer which calculates, next on the ingenuity of the measures used to estimate various aspects of the horse’s fitness and ability and the connections’ will to win and finally on the sophistication of the calculating algorithm.
Thus a calculation can be made based simply on ability factors, but it will never reflect the actual chance of that horse winning accurately. More factors can be added to the equation, but the estimation will still be inaccurate. Even if figures are re-jigged at the last minute to account for odds and market movements, the figures will still fall short of perfection.
The only thing that amazes me is how this utter prick is allowed to start thread after thread when he does his "mythical" orchestras with pathetic excuses a Junior School child would not offer.
Excuses?
Mistakes and lack of experience maybe.
It's an experimental project which shouldn't be in publication for another five years (estimation) at least.
Still it's an interlude between, or after, racing for those that need to communicate their thoughts.
The content of both the content and comments are time wasting.
Mistakes and lack of experience maybe.
It's an experimental project which shouldn't be in publication for another five years (estimation) at least.
Still it's an interlude between, or after, racing for those that need to communicate their thoughts.
The content of both the content and comments are time wasting.
Are you on medication,Pinza?
BFF is an incompetent,liar who has done more Banks than Ronnie Biggs.
BFF is an incompetent,liar who has done more Banks than Ronnie Biggs.
Excuses?
Mistakes and lack of experience maybe.
This probability of this little project coming off was about similar to his building a rocket out of tin cans and making an attempt to reach the moon.
Mistakes and lack of experience maybe.
This probability of this little project coming off was about similar to his building a rocket out of tin cans and making an attempt to reach the moon.
Anyone remember Micky Biggs?
I just get as much info as poss and highlight everything
use the signposts in rp
top speed
racing post ratings
position in betting using betfair i check all the races and write all the runners on betfair down then check if they are out of order later in the day and mark all movements up or down then I look at the place market and see if there are any out of order i.e if there 4th fav on the win and only 2nd fav in the place or vice verse
I check for one trick jock longest traveller
course or course and distance winners
trainer jockey form
most tipped most backed using racing post
draw, pace of race weather race will be run to suit
adrain massey ratings
check flatstats
i use this site to make ratings for specific races i.e flat or jumps or all weather http://www.horseracebase.com/
I have dataform database ( http://www.dataform.uk.com/index.php) with some systems that highlight certain things
so I end up with a grid about 8 boxes across x number of runners down with numbers in if there are 13 runners they would be 1 to 13 ie I would expect the fav to have something like
13112131
and the outsider to be 13 10 12 09 12 13 11 10
basically i had up the numbers in the grid the lowest total should be the fav and the smaller the number the hotter the fav
so if the total of 8 boxes was 8 that would be a hot fav and rate a + 9 or +10 and if the total of the highest was 104 ( 8 x 13 _ that would be a strong lay - 10
if the fav in this race was 5 4 7 2 6 7 6 4 then this would be a weak fav and a possible lay
I normally start to do my ratings about 5 in the morning with a break to get my daughter up and to school then back to em
I just get as much info as poss and highlight everything
use the signposts in rp
top speed
racing post ratings
position in betting using betfair i check all the races and write all the runners on betfair down then check if they are out of order later in the day and mark all movements up or down then I look at the place market and see if there are any out of order i.e if there 4th fav on the win and only 2nd fav in the place or vice verse
I check for one trick jock longest traveller
course or course and distance winners
trainer jockey form
most tipped most backed using racing post
draw, pace of race weather race will be run to suit
adrain massey ratings
check flatstats
i use this site to make ratings for specific races i.e flat or jumps or all weather http://www.horseracebase.com/
I have dataform database ( http://www.dataform.uk.com/index.php) with some systems that highlight certain things
so I end up with a grid about 8 boxes across x number of runners down with numbers in if there are 13 runners they would be 1 to 13 ie I would expect the fav to have something like
13112131
and the outsider to be 13 10 12 09 12 13 11 10
basically i had up the numbers in the grid the lowest total should be the fav and the smaller the number the hotter the fav
so if the total of 8 boxes was 8 that would be a hot fav and rate a + 9 or +10 and if the total of the highest was 104 ( 8 x 13 _ that would be a strong lay - 10
if the fav in this race was 5 4 7 2 6 7 6 4 then this would be a weak fav and a possible lay
I normally start to do my ratings about 5 in the morning with a break to get my daughter up and to school then back to em
This probability of this little project coming off was about similar to his building a rocket out of tin cans and making an attempt to reach the moon.
If you put a Racing Post underneath the tin cans when they fell apart, they'd probably pick better horses too.
If you put a Racing Post underneath the tin cans when they fell apart, they'd probably pick better horses too.
The general trend with these nutters is they do everything but actually watch any races
Profile still gone, must've got the gooner. Good fokkin riddance
As I said,"nobody minds a loser".However,a cerifiable liar is entirely another matter.
I concur with racingstar.
bf_fananatic simply craves attention; hence when his own threads weren't getting much traffic, you'd find him buzzing around the forum spoiling what were otherwise interesting threads with post after post of his 'ratings' nonsense.
bf_fananatic simply craves attention; hence when his own threads weren't getting much traffic, you'd find him buzzing around the forum spoiling what were otherwise interesting threads with post after post of his 'ratings' nonsense.
It's only taken just over a year to get rid of the cretin
Thanks go out to Top2rated , Dr Gonzo, Aviboyd, Gandalf, Daza, KoiKeeper, Holywell, Racingstar, Carrot, Christy and many others whose vigilance helped keep this twa-tter at bay.
Thanks go out to Top2rated , Dr Gonzo, Aviboyd, Gandalf, Daza, KoiKeeper, Holywell, Racingstar, Carrot, Christy and many others whose vigilance helped keep this twa-tter at bay.
Thank god he's gone. Not that he bothered me though, he was like the class geek trying to invent an imaginary formula.
At least we won't be having the same running commentary, by the same posters day in, day out. I only needed to read the first page of each thread, as I knew it would be repeated on each and every page after that.
At least we won't be having the same running commentary, by the same posters day in, day out. I only needed to read the first page of each thread, as I knew it would be repeated on each and every page after that.
He admitted using more than one account to do more than one set of selections in the AW comp, so he probably hasn't fully gone.
He admitted using more than one account to do more than one set of selections in the AW comp
Seriously?
Seriously?
I thought he was entertaining. He certainly knew how to pull a few of your strings
Did the "bully boys" get him banned? - How very sad if so!
Did the "bully boys" get him banned? - How very sad if so!
Yes, when i said betfair would be checking to see if people were using more than one account to get an edge over others for the prize money BFF said he didn't realise he couldn't use more than one account in the comp 
If you find that thread you will be able figure out the other account name by who stopped posting selections at that time
If you find that thread you will be able figure out the other account name by who stopped posting selections at that time
Nowt to do with me STATSMAN. I believe some of his posts on another thread were deleted prior to him disappearing, so I suspect it's related to that.
Dr Gonzo, fair enough. It did appear rather strange that after a few "pm's" very recently, bf_f suddenly disappears
I'd be amazed if he's gone for good anyway, given some of the jokers BF allow to continue polluting the forum.
I presume so, as I don't think he's ever been off the forum for more than 12 hours at a time since he joined. He craves the attention.
Smar Tarse - wouldn't even know when to begin looking at the threads, can you enlighten us please?
I thought he was entertaining. He certainly knew how to pull a few of your strings
Yep, after-timing and lying about results to try to con people out of money down the line, he really is a barrel of laffs.
Yep, after-timing and lying about results to try to con people out of money down the line, he really is a barrel of laffs.
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01 May 13 13:05
Are you sure he's banned?
His profile's still there
I can't access it. Please don't tell me it's back
Date Joined: 15 Jul 05
Blogger: STATSMAN's blog
Add contact
01 May 13 13:05
Are you sure he's banned?
His profile's still there
I can't access it. Please don't tell me it's back
can people hit the report button in his opening post and report it under scam/phishing. thanks.
no chance
...his threads are just too funny
aside from the fact he is quite mad of course
he could well be a nice bloke
I will miss him..if he has gone
so gl b/f
no chance
...his threads are just too funnyaside from the fact he is quite mad of course
he could well be a nice bloke
I will miss him..if he has gone
so gl b/f
Gonzo - it was in the first week of the comp when people were asking about the rules. Beginning of November.
This was the update thread in the Comps forum http://community.betfair.com/your_competitions/go/thread/view/94214/29470811...
This was the update thread in the Comps forum http://community.betfair.com/your_competitions/go/thread/view/94214/29470811...
http://community.betfair.com/go/network/search?terms=bf_fananatic&type=all
Stats, the bully boys you refer to, were telling the truth about a liar, who was using the forum as a launch platform to sell his tips, on a daily basis he lied and aftertimed, started new threads in the hope that the huge losses contained therein would disappear and his true abilities would be hidden from prospective mugs that would pay for his krapp. These are not "stats" but actual facts. Had he adhered to the rules of Betfair, he would still be here, he didn't, he's not, he was the author of his own destiny, nothing to do with anybody else.
Oh right, that explains a lot then. I personally didn't ever see any reference with regards selling his tips hence my post.
Thanks for the explanation GandalfTheGrey
Thanks for the explanation GandalfTheGrey
"Persons interested in these ratings supplied on a regular basis can private message me for
terms once you have reviewed the performance of thee tips on this thread . tally ho."
His words Stats, from last year when he was warned off by betfair, he then came out and was issuing "I will not make any attempt to sell these tips on here in the future" disclaimers on his following threads, when he thought the heat died down, he deserted the thread at minus 16,000 losses and started a new thread and so on each time the losses grew, only recently when someone asked him about him never backing so why bother putting up selections and never backing them, he stated in words to the effect that they would provide him with "riches" in other ways.
terms once you have reviewed the performance of thee tips on this thread . tally ho."
His words Stats, from last year when he was warned off by betfair, he then came out and was issuing "I will not make any attempt to sell these tips on here in the future" disclaimers on his following threads, when he thought the heat died down, he deserted the thread at minus 16,000 losses and started a new thread and so on each time the losses grew, only recently when someone asked him about him never backing so why bother putting up selections and never backing them, he stated in words to the effect that they would provide him with "riches" in other ways.
I wonder who in their right mind would actually pay
for b/f's tips
they would have to be madder than he was.....or very desperate imo
I think he saw excel as a good tool for manipulating statistics...
and horse rating does have a lot of statistics
unfortunately I do not think he had any idea what they meant..
He may do better at greyhound racing...if he takes the trouble to learn about it first
less variables
I know he had half the forum tearing their hair out
but he did make me laugh
so all the best b/f
wherever you may be
for b/f's tipsthey would have to be madder than he was.....or very desperate imo
I think he saw excel as a good tool for manipulating statistics...
and horse rating does have a lot of statistics
unfortunately I do not think he had any idea what they meant..
He may do better at greyhound racing...if he takes the trouble to learn about it first
less variables
I know he had half the forum tearing their hair out
but he did make me laugh
so all the best b/f
wherever you may be
He only moved on to the horses after he'd had a go at the greyhounds
bf_fananatic 'cut his teeth' over on the General Betting forum. This contribution was posted just two days after his forum-joining date.
http://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/28031101/are-our-funds-100-ring-fenced?origpost_id=502813229&pg=2
bf_fananatic 19 Jul 11 01:13
well fafh, if you were in my boots you would have a different outlook on all the recent upheaval regarding the pc hike, I have a story to tell also but to cut a long story short
i am probably the owner of the most accurate and profitable greyhound racing application on this planet, been involved with racing software design since before the pc came into being and through a few decades.
here are the performance figures for my app
average points profit per greyhound meeting = 18-22(variable to track)
average back strike rate = 28%
average lay strike rate = 90%
average weekly points profit = 600 plus
i currently have prediction models for the top 13 greyhound tracks over 4 bend races.
do you honestly think I want to use the application on a site that wants too suck up my profits
and gain from my hard work just because they can?
my head and my heart tell me that to use my application on betfair under the current perverted ethos
on winning and funds manipulation is wrong and why should i add more liquidity to a site that then will repay me my taking my winnings, not theres from me.
when your skills fafh get as big as your mouth then i am sure everybody will take you seriously
but my only current concern is that i am struggling to take the betfair exchange as a good place to win anymore.
at least I am in a lucky position at the moment in that i havent used my application on here and attained 250,000 profits so perhaps I like many others will take the simple step that if another sites liquidity is 25% that of betfairs to win 2.5 factor more profit then its a no-brainer just where i am heading, and what of betfair minus the top bettors liquidity, well for one thing market accuracy will certainly drop so dont rely on prices as muxh as a guide, all you price junkies will
be thunb twidling more for less profits agains higher premium charge so betfair will become the excahge were only losers are welcome and expected
http://community.betfair.com/general_betting/go/thread/view/94082/28031101/are-our-funds-100-ring-fenced?origpost_id=502813229&pg=2
bf_fananatic 19 Jul 11 01:13
well fafh, if you were in my boots you would have a different outlook on all the recent upheaval regarding the pc hike, I have a story to tell also but to cut a long story short
i am probably the owner of the most accurate and profitable greyhound racing application on this planet, been involved with racing software design since before the pc came into being and through a few decades.
here are the performance figures for my app
average points profit per greyhound meeting = 18-22(variable to track)
average back strike rate = 28%
average lay strike rate = 90%
average weekly points profit = 600 plus
i currently have prediction models for the top 13 greyhound tracks over 4 bend races.
do you honestly think I want to use the application on a site that wants too suck up my profits
and gain from my hard work just because they can?
my head and my heart tell me that to use my application on betfair under the current perverted ethos
on winning and funds manipulation is wrong and why should i add more liquidity to a site that then will repay me my taking my winnings, not theres from me.
when your skills fafh get as big as your mouth then i am sure everybody will take you seriously
but my only current concern is that i am struggling to take the betfair exchange as a good place to win anymore.
at least I am in a lucky position at the moment in that i havent used my application on here and attained 250,000 profits so perhaps I like many others will take the simple step that if another sites liquidity is 25% that of betfairs to win 2.5 factor more profit then its a no-brainer just where i am heading, and what of betfair minus the top bettors liquidity, well for one thing market accuracy will certainly drop so dont rely on prices as muxh as a guide, all you price junkies will
be thunb twidling more for less profits agains higher premium charge so betfair will become the excahge were only losers are welcome and expected
I must admit I quite liked the guy in a strange sort of way although his reluctance to answer any questions regarding the workings of his horse racing ratings was frustrating to say the least. The only way I could vent my frustration was by posting the occasional mickey-taking photo. Made me feel better but he obviously didn't give a 'toss' and I'm sure he wouldn't mind me posting another rib-tickler that he launched just 17 minutes after the one I put up a few minutes ago.
bf_fananatic 19 Jul 11 01:30
yeah make you think doesnt it, i have dreamed, thought, lived and breathed greyhound racing for years
created rating systems that are unique based on form, created concepts in prediction modeling that didnt exist before, made discoveries in factor interpretation that i cant find anywhere else but i didnt do it all to have other persons are orginisations tell me i dont deserve to win, i am a born winner, i know nothing else, and i shall seek this planet for any exchange that can handle me, but i am perplexed with betfair, do they want winners are do they just want everything for themselves
for without winners and the desire too win i cant see how as an exchange they can survive the next x quarters of business
bf_fananatic 19 Jul 11 01:30
yeah make you think doesnt it, i have dreamed, thought, lived and breathed greyhound racing for years
created rating systems that are unique based on form, created concepts in prediction modeling that didnt exist before, made discoveries in factor interpretation that i cant find anywhere else but i didnt do it all to have other persons are orginisations tell me i dont deserve to win, i am a born winner, i know nothing else, and i shall seek this planet for any exchange that can handle me, but i am perplexed with betfair, do they want winners are do they just want everything for themselves
for without winners and the desire too win i cant see how as an exchange they can survive the next x quarters of business
Well he certainly made significant progress in less than 2 years. He went from.... claiming to be a top pro punter with an in-depth knowledge of racing, and a computer expert who has been creating racing software for decades that made thousands of points profit every year.... to someone who doesn't bet (apart from the occasional 2 quid), has relentless fun playing with Adrian Massey-supplied data and facilities, keeps all his data in Notepad and Excel, didn't understand racing but liked playing with numbers, and whose life was about trying to break into the top 10 in the AW Comp, and inventing a new system a week as soon as old one went into the red. And somewhere along the way, he acquired a 4yo son (who became a 3yo son a couple of hours later), who then disappeared again.
At best, he compares favourably with Tommo - an unbreachable hide, an undentable ego, a playful sense of humour - but we don't have to put up with his face or his voice.
At best, he compares favourably with Tommo - an unbreachable hide, an undentable ego, a playful sense of humour - but we don't have to put up with his face or his voice.
A hideous,verminous piece of excrement that should have been strangled at birth (and those care his good points).
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