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silvergreaser
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Roger Charlton - Three Valleys
Published: 8 January 2004
The Disciplinary Panel of the Jockey Club held an enquiry on 8th January 2004 into the analysis of the urine ordered to be taken from THREE VALLEYS (USA), trained by Roger Charlton, by the Stewards at Newmarket after the colt had finished first in the Shadwell Stud Middle Park Stakes on 3rd October 2003.

The urine of the horse was found to contain clenbuterol, which is a prohibited substance. After considering the evidence, including statements from Charlton and other witnesses, the Panel was satisfied that the source of the substance was an ongoing course of Ventipulmin which was being given to THREE VALLEYS (USA) between races on veterinary advice and, on this occasion, stopped on 24th September.

The Panel accepted an admission from Charlton that he was in breach of Rule 53 and imposed a fine of £600 upon him. Under Rule 180 (ii), the Panel disqualified THREE VALLEYS (USA) from the race, placing BALMONT (USA) first, HOLBORN (UAE) second, AUDITORIUM third and WHIPPER (USA) fourth.



Clenbuterol dilates a horse’s bronchial tubes and aids respiration. But it can also build muscle as a steroid.
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Report Diamond_Joe_Quimby • April 29, 2013 9:19 AM BST
fine of £600

BHA making it up as they go along Laugh. Punishment depending who you are
Report BARNEY21. • April 29, 2013 9:22 AM BST
It,s the "Old Publicschoolboys" thing.
Report kemo sabe • April 29, 2013 9:23 AM BST
you seem to know yr stuff silvergreaser esp the drugs details .... you dont have arabian connections or indeed be called bruce do you ... still  very interesting snippet ... i was explaining to me girl friend the way this whole thing is becoming like the hydra in mythology ... about how when you cut the first head off it grows two more ... i think this will run along for a while yet ,i hope im wrong but i do really fear the worst .i am friends with a couple of guys with strings of between twenty and forty ... they seem pretty genuine and im pretty certain they dont do this stuff ,,, but i do ask myself how in gods name can they beat horses with the bloodlines they have and the best fascilities and drugs .. it must be sould destroying yet they love the game and everyday live for their next winner ..my own personal view is a plague on these guys i would rather have less horses less racing but at least it being credible ..
Report refresh • April 29, 2013 9:36 AM BST
Roger did mention that one of his horses had received a positive test before when being interviewed on Channel 4 after Al Kazeem won at Sandown on Saturday. I don't actually like the fact that trainers are coming out and deflecting the spotlight onto Australian trainers when it's actually legal under the rules of racing in Australia to use steroids out of training. Not saying it's right to use steroids, but I think most British trainers would use steroids openly if they were legal. You just have to look at how many British, Irish and French Trainers (apart from Andre Fabre) use Lasix on raceday on there horses when running in  the Breeders cup races over in the states, any advantage or "level playing field" that they can gain is normally used.
Report refresh • April 29, 2013 9:41 AM BST
Their^
Report silvergreaser • April 29, 2013 9:50 AM BST
Kemo, good analogy ref hydra, the problem is that when a horse fails a dope test the racing media never report it or feel outraged?, in other sports with human athletes involved if one of theirs fail a drug test the media are all over it like a swarm.
The football media hounded Rio Ferdinand for failing to turn up for a drug test and the PFA responded in kind by giving him a hefty ban from the game.

The only reason the Henderson case made headlines is because it involved one of the Queens horses, otherwise it would barely have made a mere footnote in the Racing Post if the horse was owned by Johnny Smith?.
The scale of Godolphin one was just too big to be ignored, be interesting if after Butlers revelations will more and more break ranks and spill the beans?.

Refresh I never saw the Charlton interview but there was a few threads on here praising him for his hard hitting condemnation, does seem a bit rich coming from him when one of his own tested positive in a Group one race don't you think?.
Report refresh • April 29, 2013 10:11 AM BST
I would have to agree Silvergreaser, but I'm not to sure what else Roger Charlton could have said given the circumstances. Maybe something about tougher penalties for vets as well as trainers would be welcomed by the racing public, but I can't see too many trainers publicly condemning those that they work with ie: dodgy vets.
Report TheJudge • April 29, 2013 10:42 AM BST
But it can also build muscle as a steroid

since when?
Report silvergreaser • April 29, 2013 11:19 AM BST
What it means is its not a steroid but works in a similar way by building up muscle mass judge.
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