Sunday Forum

Stand by for Lee's kango hammer like condemnation, not!

No evidence otherwise? says Lee, what a brown noser? slurp slurp slurp.....

Lee: "It was brave of Al Zarooni to admit it...."


Yes very brave Lee........especially after being caught bang to rights ffs

That gravy train must be more luxurious than the the Orient Express?

Must be 100/1 any of these three Bisto Kids will make a single salient point during this programme

Just been cleaned out laying 100/1 there........admittedly Mottybags sugar coated it & said "Simon was being very noble" but he was very right to point out how the whole organisation praises 'the boss' for his input whenever they have a winner...

Well done Lee!

Interesting (for me) point is about the Aussie horses that the BHA/Ascot have been SO keen to attract for our festival meetings.....
If steroids are SO bad, why are we allowing horses that could have been trained with all the benefits of steroids, to come over here & take on our own horses, for prize money we (racing/punters/owners) are struggling to maintain, at the possible expense of people who are not training their horses with the same benefits?
I have little regard for the bombastic Mark Johnston's views on many aspects of this sport, but I do agree with him regarding this point & the BHA need to be making some sort of statement of future policy on this matter as a statement of intent.
Nothing stopping OUR horses going anywhere, I would suggest our rules enable our trainers to aim at any prize in the world with impunity, however, I dont see a problem in the BHA as the ruling body pulling up the drawbridge & banning any horses from racing here, that are trained within countries that have lax rules regarding the use of drugs....
Why do we actually NEED foreign runners in our big races from USA/Australia? The world knows that an Epsom Derby winner will be worth more as a stallion than something that wins the lesser races they have in these countries. It might show the BHA have some faith in our sport that it might lead to other countries following our lead rather than us just trying to be all things to all men & welcoming drug users with open arms???

I dont think there's anything sinister going on there mate, I find his horses impossible to fathom on a regular basis, but I tend to think it's simply too big an operation for him to manage it so that every horse goes out of the yard at 100% every time, I tend to think he runs so many, so often, that they simply have 'off days' due to over racing & possibly this gets overlooked because the trainer simply cannot give the required attention to this number of horses & make entries etc in a manner that ensures horses nearly always hit their marks.....I've never knows a 'top' trainer run middle distance horses as much as this fella does & I tend to think they are over raced & that is the reason for dips in form & they probably improve if they get a 'freshen up' (which might be a few easy days after a 'poor run'?)
We're not privvy to this, so we end up guessing about their physical (& maybe more importantly, their mental) wellbeing?

To be fair though, you cant presume he is darker than dark either.  We cant really believe its all down to rogue vets either is it. Alot of Johnstons are hyped/priced way beyond their station as well. In general he has numbers with very little quality.

Excellent post at 11.35 jonjo, and something that needs to be seriously looked at.

Did anybody ever question how these qualified vet Mark Johnson horses would just keep finding more and more under pressure when they looked like they were going to be swamped?.

A secret formula maybe?

I think you mean decelerate at a slower rate, Sir Epicure....

child like innocence?