wtf is Terry Wogan doing on the show!? I thought that smug, patronising, self-serving git had retired... but no, he keeps returning to stick his snout in the gravy.
Cannot abide him - yuck - and it's about time he accepted that toupees have moved on and that just above ear side-parting ain't fooling anyone sunshine!
Hasn't retired still does Sundays! I like him and mornings aren't the same w/o him! Shouldn't knock somebody just because he doesn't have much hair imo!
Hasn't retired still does Sundays! I like him and mornings aren't the same w/o him! Shouldn't knock somebody just because he doesn't have much hair imo!
I'm not knocking him because he doesn't have hair - I'm knocking him because he's a smug, partonising, self-serving git!
There is only thing you should be listening to in the morning and that's Radio 4!
I'm not knocking him because he doesn't have hair - I'm knocking him because he's a smug, partonising, self-serving git!There is only thing you should be listening to in the morning and that's Radio 4!
millions facing hardship and they feel it necessary to blow taxpayers hard earned on a funeral of a vile dictator .
10 million i hear this funeral is costing .Isnt this country fykin brilliant millions facing hardship and they feel it necessary to blow taxpayers hard earned on a funeral of a vile dictator .
what is it TRD? When scientists eventually decode what it is to be truly British, they will discover the pips from Radio 4 and a recording of the shipping forecast.
what is it TRD? When scientists eventually decode what it is to be truly British, they will discover the pips from Radio 4 and a recording of the shipping forecast.
and what's he doing now Zealot - living in a subsided accommodation that he refuses to leave. Still expecting others to pay his bills...
what a hero.
NOT.
and what's he doing now Zealot - living in a subsided accommodation that he refuses to leave. Still expecting others to pay his bills...what a hero.NOT.
£10m for the funeral? That must be some size of bonfire!
Unless she's being buried and if so, do you think there will be graveside protesters shouting "Maggie, Maggie, Maggie....in, in, in"
And now that she's got a spare room at her old place will Cameron be doing her lot for the bedroom tax?
£10m for the funeral? That must be some size of bonfire!Unless she's being buried and if so, do you think there will be graveside protesters shouting "Maggie, Maggie, Maggie....in, in, in"And now that she's got a spare room at her old place will Cam
good luck to Arthur - he fought for the working man
Thatchit introduced the " i'm alright jack " greedy fyckers we got today , and the young couples who work every hour
they possibly can just to pay the mortgage on a sh1tty little 2 up 2 down .
good luck to Arthur - he fought for the working man Thatchit introduced the " i'm alright jack " greedy fyckers we got today , and the young couples who work every hour they possibly can just to pay the mortgage on a sh1tty little 2 up 2 down .
what utter b0ll0cks, the only thing Arthur worked for was himself. How come these working men he was so fond of weren't even allowed a ballot - almost 30 years on that still makes me rage - they weren't even allowed a ballot. He didn't fight for the men who were prevented from going to work by flying pickets did he?
I was in South Wales at the time of the strike and all he did was to convince those men that their mines were being shut down because they were Welsh mines. You were taking your life in your hands if you tried to bring truth into any discussions - truth that the coal was no longer financially viable to mine, or that it was just running out. He convinced so many to adopt a victim mentality which still exists to this very day. People talk of the damage Thatcher did to South Wales, but Scargill's damage was insidious - he convinced the men that miners was all they could ever be, that it was better to stay home on the "sick" than realise that their (filthy, dangerous) industry had gone and things had to change. That victim mentality still exists today and it is that which has done the most damage.
Arthur fought for the working man!?what utter b0ll0cks, the only thing Arthur worked for was himself. How come these working men he was so fond of weren't even allowed a ballot - almost 30 years on that still makes me rage - they weren't even allowed
aye SS, she did - paid for by the money she'd earned during her life.
Scargill is spending the rest of his miserable existence in accommodation paid for by the union contributions of others. Accommodation he has been asked to leave because the cost has become too great. Still there....
aye SS, she did - paid for by the money she'd earned during her life.Scargill is spending the rest of his miserable existence in accommodation paid for by the union contributions of others. Accommodation he has been asked to leave because the cost h
Was she not put up for free by the Barclay brothers who own the Ritz ?
The same rich friends she helped make millions if not billions while humping the poor in the process.
Was she not put up for free by the Barclay brothers who own the Ritz ?The same rich friends she helped make millions if not billions while humping the poor in the process.
The same mega rich friends that have been dodging paying any tax for years while we get hit with the poll tax etc....
Lovey women. Terry wogan is a **** as well btw
http://www.theweek.co.uk/uk-news/50649/barclay-brothers-ritz-hotel-has-dodged-tax-17-yearsThe same mega rich friends that have been dodging paying any tax for years while we get hit with the poll tax etc....Lovey women. Terry wogan is a **** as wel
People partying to celebrate your death says it all .
Arthur Scargill was a top fella who tried to make a stand .
Thatcher's ingenious plan for the working class to buy their own home , forcing many into debt from which they will never recover , was absolute class .
Many a working man works over 60 hours a week just to pay debts , and is left with under 20 nicker to enjoy himself with
People partying to celebrate your death says it all .Arthur Scargill was a top fella who tried to make a stand .Thatcher's ingenious plan for the working class to buy their own home , forcing many into debt from which they will never recover , was ab
Wogan was hilarious on the Eurovision song contest,taking the p1ss out of the rest of Europe.
PS Scargill has been taken to court by his own union to evict him from a £3 million flat in London that he does'nt pay a penny for.
Wogan was hilarious on the Eurovision song contest,taking the p1ss out of the rest of Europe.PS Scargill has been taken to court by his own union to evict him from a £3 million flat in London that he does'nt pay a penny for.
ZEALOT 17 Apr 13 14:44 10 million i hear this funeral is costing .
Isnt this country fykin brilliant
millions facing hardship and they feel it necessary to blow taxpayers hard earned on a funeral of a vile dictator .
spot on.
ZEALOT 17 Apr 13 14:44 10 million i hear this funeral is costing .Isnt this country fykin brilliant millions facing hardship and they feel it necessary to blow taxpayers hard earned on a funeral of a vile dictator . spot on.
So what - there are drug dealers in every town and scym bags bashing old people to get money to buy drugs .
not to mention the rapists and murderers about .
At the end of the day , todays shenanigans have cost a total of 10m .
Do most of you Thatcher lovers realise how that money could have been spent .
Just an example - it would pay 40 nurses 25k per week for 10 years !!!!!
an absolute shambolic decision .
So what - there are drug dealers in every town and scym bags bashing old people to get money to buy drugs .not to mention the rapists and murderers about .At the end of the day , todays shenanigans have cost a total of 10m .Do most of you Thatcher lo
millions facing hardship and they feel it necessary to blow taxpayers hard earned on a funeral of a vile dictator .
Why don't the muppets understand, she has paid for her own funeral with the £75 billion rebate!!! I bet the muppets posting haven't even got anything in place for their own wake.
10 million i hear this funeral is costing .Isnt this country fykin brilliant millions facing hardship and they feel it necessary to blow taxpayers hard earned on a funeral of a vile dictator . Why don't the muppets understand, she has paid for her ow
Yeah yeah yeah I have, try posting something that as a fact to a debate!!! £75 BILLION AGAINST A £10 MILLION COST SO LOL, the unions could only dream of that!!
Yeah yeah yeah I have, try posting something that as a fact to a debate!!! £75 BILLION AGAINST A £10 MILLION COST SO LOL, the unions could only dream of that!!
What happens is people negotiate. I think you will find the UK has always paid in more than it gets out. At the time the proposition on the table was rather obviously against Britain's interest. Thatcher ( correctly ) negotiated it down as would any other PM. She called it a rebate because she could make political capital out of that. Always happy to help political novices.
What happens is people negotiate.I think you will find the UK has always paid in more than it gets out. At the time the proposition on the table was rather obviously against Britain's interest. Thatcher ( correctly ) negotiated it down as would any o
PMSL typical left wing answer. LETS GET IT STRAIGHT SHE GOT BACK £75 BILLION ON HER OWN WHEN ALL THE UNIONS WHERE SAYING SHE NUTS!!!!! IN FACT TODAY THEY STILL SAYING IT!!!
PMSL typical left wing answer. LETS GET IT STRAIGHT SHE GOT BACK £75 BILLION ON HER OWN WHEN ALL THE UNIONS WHERE SAYING SHE NUTS!!!!! IN FACT TODAY THEY STILL SAYING IT!!!
Think not. Read a few books not just the Murdoch/Rothermere press and perhaps you will get the hang of how politics works. I'm not even criticising Thatcher on this point you will notice. I am just saying any decent negotiator could have done the same and called it a rebate for home consumption.
Think not. Read a few books not just the Murdoch/Rothermere press and perhaps you will get the hang of how politics works. I'm not even criticising Thatcher on this point you will notice. I am just saying any decent negotiator could have done the sam
OK. Nelson Mandela. I am not trying to say that Thatcher is not a major historical figure by the rather diminished standards of the UK. Just pointing out that the quote which I presume is from her is crap.
OK.Nelson Mandela.I am not trying to say that Thatcher is not a major historical figure by the rather diminished standards of the UK. Just pointing out that the quote which I presume is from her is crap.
ladycarla Date Joined: 03 Sep 06 Add contact | Send message 18 Apr 13 00:03 Joined: 03 Sep 06 | Topic/replies: 514 | Blogger: ladycarla's blog Really sad that it was true in the end.
you say this lies its a bad thing...but having checked wiki there is no mention of mrs T having had a hand in the progression of mobile telecommunication in fact , i did find this though,
"I am homeless, the Government must house me!" and so they are casting their problems on society and who is society? There is no such thing! There are individual men and women and there are families and no government can do anything except through people and people look to themselves first. It is our duty to look after ourselves and then also to help look after our neighbour and life is a reciprocal business and people have got the entitlements too much in mind without the obligations.[238]
the above shows how little she really understood about anything really, she says there is no such thing as society yet basically goes on to list the fundamental building blocks for any "society" and tells us they are our duty. Anyone over the age of 25 should no that life isnt plain sailing and occasionally even the best of people need help.
she epitomizes the short cut reactionary way we seem to live our lives these days, tv broke dont fix it, get a newer one, country broke, blame the poor, hit the vulnerable, encourage the greedy, company toiling sack loads of folk starting at bottom.
it really amazes me that the further you are from any part of the real decision making processes you have somehow collectively become the reason everything has gone t1ts up. her obsession with deregulation of the banks worked well didnt it....
ladycarlaDate Joined: 03 Sep 06Add contact | Send message18 Apr 13 00:03 Joined: 03 Sep 06 | Topic/replies: 514 | Blogger: ladycarla's blogReally sad that it was true in the end.you say this lies its a bad thing...but having checked wiki there is
I wish people would stick to FACTS. Supporters of Scargill just seem to say they hate Thatcher for what she did yet give no rationalle behind that assertion. Scargill for that matter sent his secretary Peter Heathfield to Libya to negotiate funds for the miners with Gadaffi, an international terrorist who supplied arms to the IRA, and later sponsored the Lockerbie bombing. Heathfield himself had doubts about Scargills strategy but was frightened to say. Scargill, for his part, was reported (not proven) to be negotiating with Moscow over financial support for the miners. Does asking countries like this,at the time opposed to England,( cold war)not give the impression that there were moves afoot to subvert this country. Do the supporters of Scargill et al really support this?
I wish people would stick to FACTS. Supporters of Scargill just seem to say they hate Thatcher for what she did yet give no rationalle behind that assertion. Scargill for that matter sent his secretary Peter Heathfield to Libya to negotiate funds for
The only person who has mentioned Scargill favourably on this thread is ZEALOT. You don't actually read anything do you ? Are you drunk or just stupid ?
The only person who has mentioned Scargill favourably on this thread is ZEALOT. You don't actually read anything do you ? Are you drunk or just stupid ?
salmon spray 18 Apr 13 14:21 Joined: 10 Jan 07 | Topic/replies: 22,164 | Blogger: salmon spray's blog
The only person who has mentioned Scargill favourably on this thread is ZEALOT. You don't actually read anything do you ? Are you drunk or just stupid ?
There are alot more readers than posters on this forum HTH
salmon spray 18 Apr 13 14:21 Joined: 10 Jan 07 | Topic/replies: 22,164 | Blogger: salmon spray's blogThe only person who has mentioned Scargill favourably on this thread is ZEALOT. You don't actually read anything do you ? Are you drunk or just stupi
yeayeah she was such a "paragon of virtue" that she got MI5/CIA to try to blacken Scargills name on the ruse that he was getting funds from KGB,that he was mis-appropriating funds both lies,she spent £12/15 billion breaking the miners money that could have been spent on infrastructure to give people hope/work rather than destroying them,she set up that patsy Roy something or other from the Nottingham coal fields eulogising him as the type of leader miners needed got his day in the sun then was dumped like her unceremoniously on their a--es,I don,t have much if any time for union leaders who at the end of the day are wetting themselves to "get up there" along with those that are the perceived enemy sad really when you think of it but to make her out as a true and wonderful human being is way way wide of the mark.
yeayeah she was such a "paragon of virtue" that she got MI5/CIA to try to blacken Scargills name on the ruse that he was getting funds from KGB,that he was mis-appropriating funds both lies,she spent £12/15 billion breaking the miners money that cou
The only person who has mentioned Scargill favourably on this thread is ZEALOT. You don't actually read anything do you ? Are you drunk or just stupid ?
ha ha cheers fella , im just pi55ed
I dont read newspapers , have not done so for donkeys . I dont watch the news or any other sh1t about politics .
I happened to have a chat with scargy in his local boozer , when i was working in barnsley a few years back and he was a top fella - he reckoned Thatcher was the anti christ .
The only person who has mentioned Scargill favourably on this thread is ZEALOT. You don't actually read anything do you ? Are you drunk or just stupid ?ha ha cheers fella , im just pi55ed I dont read newspapers , have not done so for donkeys . I don
The question wasn't directed at you ZEALOT. ladycarla had been going on about friends of Scargill on the thread ( Personally I have very mixed feelings about him ). So it was addressed to him/her.
The question wasn't directed at you ZEALOT.ladycarla had been going on about friends of Scargill on the thread ( Personally I have very mixed feelings about him ). So it was addressed to him/her.
apologiesI mixed you up with Zodiac Zealot you dont think AP is the worlds greatest jockey so I am afraid Scargill was not a saint mind you, you may well be right about Thatcher being the Anti Christ
apologiesI mixed you up with Zodiac Zealotyou dont think AP is the worlds greatest jockeyso I am afraid Scargill was not a saintmind you, you may well be right about Thatcher being the Anti Christ
mind you the £10 million of public money wasted on her funeral was nothing compared to the £9 billion we wasted on the Olympics last year all that money, just so the nation could feel good for 2 weeks...what good was that still I suppose it was difficult to get out of, once we bid for it We should just bid for football WC..we could use existing stadiums... and football is better to watch than the crap sports we have to watch at the Olympics..
The IMF today again warned we are going too fast on austerity..we are defeating the object It seems our government are more concerned that the less well off in our society 'may be getting away with it' than in actually improving our economic situation exactly what Thatcher did, she went too fast, was too brutal and people suffered, and looking at our society today , did she bring any long term benefit, my answer would be NO...
mind you the £10 million of public money wasted on her funeralwas nothing compared to the £9 billion we wasted on the Olympics last yearall that money, just so the nation could feel good for 2 weeks...what good was thatstill I suppose it was diffic
The 9 billion spent on the Olympics has been earned by tourism.
The alleged 10 million spent on Thatchers funeral will also return on the same tourism route.
Britain do pomp and ceremony better than anyone else and although the lefties hate it the ordinary people( flag waving fools as Facts calls them) love it.
The 9 billion spent on the Olympics has been earned by tourism.The alleged 10 million spent on Thatchers funeral will also return on the same tourism route.Britain do pomp and ceremony better than anyone else and although the lefties hate it the ordi
Don,t ever know how/why you haven,t been given a job promoting GB wildman,of course we do these ceremonial parties better than anyone else why? because we have the most experience of "marching up to the top of the hill and marching down again",and what is your obssession with "the lefties" as opposed to "the righties",I,ll tell you what it is wildman it,s a room of smoking mirrors it is a distraction from the mess we are in as a country,you do not see any of this from the Scandanavians/Germans no way they are just getting on with the job of seeing that their respective countries are in good nick for ALL of their people,yes GB has contributed a helluva lot to the world but there has also been a huge downside,for a nation that for 200yrs or so made collosal amounts of money from their "commonwealth" we don,t now have a lot to show for it,this country is/has been for the elite/establishment for a 1000yrs or so,our investment in manufacturing/infrastructure is the lowest of the developed nations our top academically gifted go into the law/city/government as opposed to going into the wealth creating manufacturing industries,that is a big part of why we are trailing.
Don,t ever know how/why you haven,t been given a job promoting GB wildman,of course we do these ceremonial parties better than anyone else why? because we have the most experience of "marching up to the top of the hill and marching down again",and wh
-and you are one that is getting fooled - as BARNEY21 so rightly calls it - by 'smoking mirrors' Keep on reading the Daily Mail, wild one - makes you feel so righteous and good doesn't it. What's it like up there - on your high horse?!!
wildbone-and you are one that is getting fooled - as BARNEY21 so rightly calls it - by 'smoking mirrors'Keep on reading the Daily Mail, wild one - makes you feel so righteous and good doesn't it. What's it like up there - on your high horse?!!
Barney has a different view but there is a lot of merit in his last post,the decline in British manufacturing is a disaster for Britain and something Mrs Thatcher was guilty of,the country that invented the railways,the jet engine and dominated motor racing for decades now produces little of those things she led the world in producing.
The magnificent feats of engineering you see all over Britain are testament to the worth of previous generations,this is now sneered at looked down on by the like of Facts and Captain Christy,the liberal elite have taught the young to be ashamed of their past as a way of breaking down nationalist feeling thus preparing the way fot the unelected European burocrats to take over.
An outsider looking in can see and not be afraid to comment on the terrible things happening to your country,it is only now a matter of time before London is under Sharia Law.
The Daily Mail isint for sale where I live.Barney has a different view but there is a lot of merit in his last post,the decline in British manufacturing is a disaster for Britain and something Mrs Thatcher was guilty of,the country that invented the
The 9 billion spent on the Olympics has been earned by tourism.
if that is the case, fine..but most businesses reported less business at the time of Olympics
I agree with Barney21
Tbh I would not know if what our government is for the best or not, but I would like to see more honesty less spin...why are they ignoring the IMF..I assume those guys know what they are talking about
Let us try and fix this country...and you dont do that in 1 day or two weeks
The 9 billion spent on the Olympics has been earned by tourism.if that is the case, fine..but most businesses reported less business at the time of OlympicsI agree with Barney21Tbh I would not know if what our government is for the best or not, but I