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ashleigh
17 Apr 13 12:14
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racing uk's subscriber base grew to 44,200 in 2012, showing "stabilty in numbers" according to rmg chairman simon ellen.

wonder what this years figures will be after the price increase?

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By:
wee eck
When: 17 Apr 13 12:19
In a country which has a population of over 60 million 44200 subscribe to RUK

shows in a nutshell how popular horseracing is.
By:
elise
When: 17 Apr 13 12:24
do those numbers include their online subscriptions, pubs, overseas etc or is that just home satellite users

if it's the whole lot that sounds almost unsustainable?
By:
wee eck
When: 17 Apr 13 12:30
elise, why unsustainable? running costs wont be a fortune there will be a bit

coming in from ads and around 10 million a year from subscribers does not seem

too bad, which I was running it.
By:
elise
When: 17 Apr 13 12:37
i'd be interested to see a p&l

i know they have taken more advertising over the last 12 months and that might have been a necessity , 44000 x the subs alone doesn't feel like it's enough to run a tv channel / outside broadcasts, multi platforms etc
By:
wee eck
When: 17 Apr 13 12:39
elise, they will imo be far more profitable re. capital expenditure than this exchange is.
By:
elise
When: 17 Apr 13 12:42
maybe, i might have a look at the whole rmg set up just for a bit of fun
By:
bilbobaggins
When: 17 Apr 13 12:47
They get extra income from selling pictures abroad.
By:
wee eck
When: 17 Apr 13 12:52
I would not be surprised to hear or read that their biggest expence is the paying

of the fees they pay the frontmen and pundits on their channel, give 50% of them the

chop and RUK would be quids in and would have done us viewers a good turn.
By:
elise
When: 17 Apr 13 12:59
i've found the annual return for march 2013 and the sept 12 annual accounts, i'll perhaps have a look later if i get bored with the sport
By:
-Artifice-
When: 17 Apr 13 13:54
Is R uk now on a par wtith Turf TV? It seems to have quickened up recently?
By:
howard
When: 17 Apr 13 13:56
yes so should help get people back/ onboard
By:
john92
When: 17 Apr 13 14:11
With Newmarket and Cheltenham on today there is no need to pay Willo to analyse Beverley. I thought I had seen the last of him until Meydan 2014 aswell.
By:
howard
When: 17 Apr 13 14:15
Kempton ?
By:
tips
When: 17 Apr 13 14:22
absolutely no need for willo today
By:
john92
When: 17 Apr 13 14:23
I hoped his appearance at Kempton on Saturday was his swansong until Meydan. Then again he didn't wave at the camera in a bizarre fashion from what I saw. After checking I didn't realise how often Kempton race over the summer so I suppose it's no surprise he hasn't retired again.
By:
icyaitch
When: 17 Apr 13 14:42
Needs the work ..... Saving up for some teeth!
By:
ZEALOT
When: 17 Apr 13 14:53
how much is RUK these days ?
By:
blunder
When: 17 Apr 13 14:58
Just about £1 a day to my mind is excellent value . I used  to go racing almost ever day around the midlands ,and my petrol costs were greater than my mortgage ,never mind entrance fees .The presenters are not all to my taste ,but then again I use my own judgement ,and don't rely on them for tips.I turned down a free day at the Cheltenham Gold cup because I would rather watch it from the comfort of my own home .(I went to most of the previous 20 Gold Cups).If you can't make £22 a month out of your punting in order to pay the subscription ,perhaps you should find something else to bet on .
By:
flyingbolt
When: 17 Apr 13 15:22
I seem to remember them saying when they started that they needed 30,000
subscribers to break even.
By:
flyingbolt
When: 17 Apr 13 15:23
and that of course was before they became an advert channel.Mischief
By:
Mr Holmes
When: 17 Apr 13 15:40
Never any need for willowbee.

Just because their are only 44,200 subscribers it does not show how popular horse racing is.

Some peeps who love racing are too tight to pay for it LaughLaugh
By:
Lampus
When: 17 Apr 13 15:46
ATR  which is  free  to  view
1  million  viewersGrin
By:
elise
When: 17 Apr 13 15:48
ATR  which is  free  to  view
1  million  viewers



but 28000 viewers when maplepoof is on
By:
flyingbolt
When: 17 Apr 13 15:50
On a Monday at Southwell ?
2800 more like.
By:
elise
When: 17 Apr 13 15:52
when do ruk get ascot, is it early next yr?
By:
tips
When: 17 Apr 13 15:54
ruk is well worth the money,atr delayed races are disgraceful,great morning programmes on atr,ruk could learn from atr on that
By:
ease
When: 17 Apr 13 15:55
ATR is not free-it costs £26.50 a month on sky's minimum package, and every race has a scandalous six second delay. The more courses that switch to RUK (as recently Exeter,Perth, and Ascot to come), the better.
By:
Lampus
When: 17 Apr 13 16:04
LaughLaughLaugh
By:
Lampus
When: 17 Apr 13 16:05
ease
April  1  is  gone
By:
Lampus
When: 17 Apr 13 16:12
The reason  ATR got more  viewers is  because   its   free
Which is good for racing
more punters
By:
rocky ttotal
When: 17 Apr 13 16:17

Apr 17, 2013 -- 3:55PM, ease wrote:


ATR is not free-it costs £26.50 a month on sky's minimum package, and every race has a scandalous six second delay. The more courses that switch to RUK (as recently Exeter,Perth, and Ascot to come), the better.


Correct.

By:
Lampus
When: 17 Apr 13 16:21
More tracks  to go to ATR
would mean more levy
Good for racing  imo
By:
ease
When: 17 Apr 13 16:23
If I want to have the ATR I have to pay sky £26.50 a month on their entertainment extra package-I don't particularly want the rest of the garbage that goes with it so I call it expensive. At £20.80 a month RUK is light years in front for value and product.
By:
Lampus
When: 17 Apr 13 16:25
I  see your pointSad
By:
Stow_judge
When: 17 Apr 13 16:27
Would the sport be better off if RUK were free to air? Would there be an significant upsurge in the popularity of the sport, attendances and betting turnover in the long term?

Aren't they getting enough out of Turf TV?

Are they really upping the subscription?
By:
ZEALOT
When: 17 Apr 13 16:29
the adverts on atr is enuff for anybody to reach for the noose Cry
By:
dustybin
When: 17 Apr 13 16:29
Lampus • April 17, 2013 4:12 PM BST
The reason  ATR got more  viewers is  because   its   free
Which is good for racing
more punters

Pre IR theory
Things change
Everything being equal it would have been better for all the take out merchants getting their fill somewhere else, but as it is RUK from an IR (modern) perspective is fantastic value
By:
G1_Jockey_4
When: 17 Apr 13 16:30
why have a 12 month tie in though.

i refuse to subscribe for 12 months so wont be having it...may just go online when the racing hots up
By:
Lampus
When: 17 Apr 13 16:31
Does IR  bets mean any money for  racing
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