I TALKED TO A TOP MATHAMATICIAN WHO TAUGHT AT HARVARD

IVE GOT QUALIFEECATIONS TO BE A TEACHER ,BUT I KNEW DEEP DOWN IN MY HEART IF ANY CHILD WAS DISRUPTIVE I WOULD BATTER THEM IF THEY WAS SMALLER THAN ME

THE WORLD WAS MY OYSTER BUT I CHOSE THE BOOKIES AND PUB AND WORK,I WAS A DONKEY CHASING A CARROT

and they say primary schools need more male role models....

MY FRIENDS CALLED ME EE HAW

I DIDNT TAKE THE TEACHERS TRAINING COURSE,AS I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE HARD TO CHASE MY HORSE RACING LOSSES IF I HAD A CLASS TO TEACH

you could have done it in maths at leas the little barstewards would have had an edge on the rest of their peers

i have a yacht do wah

WHEN I WORKED ON THE MARKETS IT WAS NOT UNCOMMON FOR ME TO BE ASKED MANY QUESTIONS FROM THE OVERSEAS GRADUATES FROM MANCHESTER UNIVERSITEE,THEY PASSED MY NAME AMONGST EACH OTHER WHEN THEY GOT STUCK WITH DIFFERENT HARD QUESTIONS ,THATS HOW I GOT TO MEET THE HARVARD MATHAMATICIAN HE SAID SEVERAL STUDENTS OF HIS HAD PASSED MY NAME ON TO HIM AND SAID ID HELPED THEM IN LIFE,BEFORE THEY WENT WORKING FOR NASSA AND OTHER HIGH PROFILE FIRMS ,HE SAID HE WANTED TO MEET ME AS WELL AS THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES AND ELVIS PRESSLEY AND MOTHER TEREESA AND NELSON MANDELLA AND DAVID BECKAM

HE WAS VERY IMPRESSED WITH ME WHEN HE BOUGHT A DRESSS OF ME FOR HIS WIFE AND I TOLD HIM ID KNOCKED 25%OFF FOR HIM .AND HE SAID THE CHANGE WAS CORRECT FOR 25%

ESPECIALLY WHEN I DID NOT USE A CALCULATOR AND DID IT IN MY HEAD

wtf were students doing buying fruit n veg?

NO ,THERE WAS A MAN ON THE MARKET THAT SOLD FALSE VISAS

u should have got one then u could punt with impunity

GOT TO GO NOW

skeptical about that one tbh

The over educated are to stupid to understand something as common sense as horse racing!!

"YOU TRY AND HELP PEOPLE AND ALL THEY DO IS INSULT YOU ,THATS WHY I NEVER BECAME A NURSE"

Betting on horse racing is not like betting on roulette, you can't reduce the odds against you at roulette.

You can reduce the odds against you at horse racing through study and knowledge, but that doesn't mean you can win.
It just means that some punters can make their money last longer.

And those who can win at horse racing take good care to keep what they know to themselves.

not strictly true if u know the speed the ball is going n the speed the wheel is going u can win at roulette

slim ITS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE SPEED OF ANYTHING OR THE SIZE OF THE BALL ,ITS ALL TO DO WITH MATHAMATICS ..THE MAN FROM HARVARD SAID .THE VERY  CLEVER PEOPLE DONT GAMBLE BECAUSE YOU CANT WIN ,WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME STEVEN HAWKINGS HAD A BET

STEVEN HAWKINS ONCE SAID TO THE MAN FROM HARVARD WHEN THEY WERE WORKING OUT THE MASS OF BLACK HOLES ,
STEPHEN SAID IF I THOUGHT THERE WAS A WAY TO WIN AT GAMBLING DO YOU THINK ID BE SAT HERE WITH YOU TRYING TO WORK OUT THE MASS OF BLACK HOLES

AND THE MAN FROM HARVARD SAID YES IF I COULD WIN AT GAMBLING I WOULDNT BE SAT HERE EITHER ID BE IN LOST VEGAS SAT WITH A 48"BUST SHORT SKIRTED HOOKER
TO WHICH STEPHEN COUGHED OUT HIS ORANGE JUICE

STEVEN ALSO SAID TO THE MAN FROM HARVARD ITS LAS VEGAS NOT LOST VEGAS ,TO WHICH THE MAN FROM HARVARD SAID IM BRILLIANT AT MATHS BUT IM A DUNCE WITH GEOGRAPHY

Pity he didn't teach you how to spell.

everyones brain has an algorithm, not much difference between a gambler and scientist, both are studying data
and maybe if your lucky enough, you can make discoverys of your own, and vastly improve your own knowledge.

doo wah, I never realised you were so funny, the line about the nurse had me in stitches, keep up the good work. cheers.

not strictly true if u know the speed the ball is going n the speed the wheel is going u can win at roulette

Then surely if you know which is the fastest horse in the race, you can win at horse racing?

Let me know how you get on.

i with there were more honest posters like do wah, wears a great big heart on his sleeve, god bless ya do wah lad.

wish

on every race?

Dr Crippen 19 Mar 13 12:44 Joined: 16 Apr 02 | Topic/replies: 9,882 | Blogger: Dr Crippen's blog
not strictly true if u know the speed the ball is going n the speed the wheel is going u can win at roulette

Then surely if you know which is the fastest horse in the race, you can win at horse racing?

Let me know how you get on.

i might have to check the stats but i am pretty sure the fastest horse on the day wins barring dqs etc

hth

AFTER READING THE REPLYS FROM YOU LOT ON HERE THE MAN AT HARVARD WOULD MAKE YOU ALL SIT ON THE FRONT SEATS OF THE CLASS SO HE COULD KEEP AN EYE ON YOU

i might have to check the stats but i am pretty sure the fastest horse on the day wins barring dqs etc

hth

Okay Slim Pickens, you've cracked it.

Like I said let me know how you get on.

For most horse racing punters such as myself our selections at times
are little more than a guess....so taking into account bookmakers over rounds and betfair commission,
we are probably betting to a worse percentage than roulette, so in that sense you are right DO WAH DIDDY

But that is not the whole story. I would think premium charge players on here win their money on sports betting
not Betfair roulette. And some punters on here, a minority, with some skill, experience and hard work do turn a modest profit.
I do not think either of these things would happen if they were playing roulette.

I would think Steven Hawkins and other top scientists earn considerably more at what they are doing than they ever would
from sports betting. Also winning is not just about intelligence, it is also about being a good gambler, this requires both nerve
and control. Gambling is by its very nature a gamble, the uncertainty would not suit everyone, we are only ever as good as our last winner.

Still if you can win more playing roulette than sports betting ...dont let me change you DO WAH DIDDY...
I enjoy your posts
becuase winning is hard.

Horse racing is so much more interesting than roulette.
I would think studying black holes is even more interesting...
oh that I had their brain
although they are probably thinking, how can I find my next winner

Studying black holes can be interesting, but studying string theory is much more entertaining!

I hope this clarifies the matter!

silly string?

g-string?

I am afraid that the above comments demonstrate the regrettable edumacational standards of sertin forumites!

its the low levels of Cerotonin, makes us bad spellers too

C10H12N2O

Serotonin is related to the moclulation of mood and impulse control as any O Level biology student would know and has nothink to do with spellink!


I hope this clarifies the matter!

like butter tsa

That is not serotonin but cotinine. It is present in ciggie smoke. Either that or it is your postcode Mr Mover!

ghee u is smart do you have a pmt like yon hazard don?

The news that DWD has been chatting with Harvard-educated mathematicians will send a shiver down every bookmaker or casino owner's spine. Heaven only knows what carnage they are in for.

We, the humble punters, would do well to pay heed to the Great Man's insights. A mouth-watering proposition indeed.

Horse racing is so much more interesting than roulette.
I would think studying black holes is even more interesting...

You would think so, but it isn't. And science is not at all well paid, even if you're at the top of your field.

hawkins makes millions from walk ons....

He is the exception though. And if he didn't have his electronic voice and chair he would just be another top physicist who the vast majority wouldn't reconize.

Mr Pickens- although I am highly edumacated and have many degrees and diplomas, I do not suffer from pmt.

I hope this clarifies the matter!

Cheesey Hawkins also seems to benefit from some unwritten fatwa that goes something along the lines of 'You can't disagree with anything he says, simply BECAUSE he's Cheesey Hawkins'.

including his diagnosis, if he has motor neurons i am the king of siam

Something that is only known to us scientific intelligentlemensia is that Mr Hawkins was a popular music star!
His voice is featured here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTFCwKvlKZo
(Before anyone asks, it is not the lead voice!)

i don't have the time to read this thread all the way through so apologies if this has already been raised but of course you won't be able to win if the book is 105% over-round but the markets on here are not, they are generally a little over 5% once you add in the commission

maybe you explained things wrongly to him

Happy, perhaps you could get your alter-ego (AllBlack) to read the whole thread?

Then you and yourself could have a meeting to discuss it when you both have the time.

Alun if DWD has been chatting with the Mathetician I would be more worried for Nasa

HAPPY VALLEY PTA  MOST PEOPLE TAKE A PRICE WHEN ITS APPROX 101.8%IT IS NEVER 100%UNLESS YOU TAKE THE BETFAIR S P AND THAT CAN ONLY BE DONE ON CERTAIN MARKETS ALSO YOU HAVE THE 5%COMMISION

I EXPLAINED IT TO THE HARVARD PROFESSOR PROPERLY AND HE WAS SOBER WHEN I TALKED TO HIM ,SO HE FULLY UNDERSTOOD ME

Do wah he might have been sober when you talked to him but I'd imagine he was fairly twisted by the time you were finished

this guys name want nash was it doo wah?

NO ,HE ASKED ME TO KEEP HIM ANNONOMOUSE BECAUSE HE DID NOT WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW HE WAS TALKING ABOUT GAMBLING WHEN THERE WAS OTHER IMPORTANT WORLD MATTERS TO TALK ABOUT

HE SAID IF THE PRINCIPLE OF HARVARD FOUND OUT HE WAS TALKING TO A RECOVERING ALCOHOLIC,WHO WAS A COMPULSIVE GAMBLER ,HE MIGHT NOT APPRECIATE HIM TALKING TO ME ABOUT GAMBLING ,HE SAID HES ALLREADY IN TROUBLE WITH HIM ,FOR GOING ON YOU TUBE IN SCHOOL HOURS ON THE SCHOOL COMPUTER WATCHING JEDWARD

HE WAS EATING FISH AND CHIPS THE LAST TIME I SAW HIM ,I SAID WILL YOU STAY AT HARVARD FOR THE FORSEEABLE FUTURE , HE SAID NO DO WAH DIDDY THERES ONLY SO MANY NUMBERS IN THIS WORLD THAT I CAN TEACH PEOPLE

AS I  SAID GOODBYE TO HIM HIM HE CRIED ,I SAID PLEASE DONT CRY BECAUSE I WONT SEE YOU NO MORE ,HE SAID IM CRYING BECAUSE YOUR STOOD ON MY INGROWING TOENAIL

I don't think I believe you. The professors I know are not that narrow minded. And if it is true he's and idiot. The number of long term premium charge payers on here proves he's wrong.

professor knows youre not fit to clean his car but feels sorry for you

The art of a right decision


In mathematics, the theory of optimal stopping is concerned with the problem of choosing a time to take a particular action, in order to maximise an expected reward or minimise an expected cost. Optimal stopping problems can be found in areas of statistics, economics, and mathematical finance (related to the pricing of American options). A key example of an optimal stopping problem is the secretary problem. Optimal stopping problems can often be written in the form of a Bellman equation, and are therefore often solved using dynamic programming.

Examples

[edit]Coin tossing
(Example where  converges)
You have a fair coin and are repeatedly tossing it. Each time, before it is tossed, you can choose to stop tossing it and get paid (in dollars, say) the average number of heads observed.
You wish to maximise the amount you get paid by choosing a stopping rule. If Xi (for i ≥ 1) forms a sequence of independent, identically distributed random variables with Bernoulli distribution

and if

then the sequences , and  are the objects associated with this problem.
Option trading
In the trading of options on financial markets, the holder of an American option is allowed to exercise the right to buy (or sell) the underlying asset at a predetermined price at any time before or at the expiry date. Therefore the valuation of American options is essentially an optimal stopping problem. Consider a classical Black-Scholes set-up and let  be the risk-free interest rate and  and  be the dividend rate and volatility of the stock. The stock price  follows geometric Brownian motion

under the risk-neutral measure. When the option is perpetual, the optimal stopping problem is

where the payoff function is  for a call option and  for a put option. The variational inequality is

for all  where  is the exercise boundary. The solution is known to be [3]
(Perpetual call)  where  and
(Perpetual put)  where  and
If the expiry date is finite, the problem is associated with a 2-dimensional free-boundary problem with no known closed-form solution. Various numerical methods can be used.
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I have no strong opinion on the subject but I would hasten to advise caution on assuming do wah is a common garden forum nutter.

He used to be good with cuckoo clocks until he found out his father was a Romanian pickpocket on the London underground who told him in his formative years that the family name Psycho would be famous in watchmaking before the century was out.

Stole his first rolodex from an American tourist and used the money to join the Rotary Club in Reading.

There is no optimal stopping for coin tossing to maximise profits. At any point in tossing your expected profit/loss is exactly what it is at that point in time. You can't make a profit/reduce loss by deciding when to stop.

I take that back. If you use an average number of heads there might be an optimal stopping point.

bff come back all....

Bit drunk now, but can prove you can't maximise profit from a totally random process like coin tossing.

Harvard profs watching Jedward on youtube, quality thread

YOUR TRYING TO TARNISH MY CREDABILITY  AND THE PROFESSOR FROM HARVARD  BECAUSE YOU DONT LIKE WHAT ME AND THE PROFESSOR SAY ,

YOUR TRYING TO DO WHAT THEY DID TO NELSON MANDELLA TO KEEP HIM QUIET

Oh yes you can pumpkin...............I am not going to provide computer generated graphs.......simple common sense.

Had bf_f and manxy stopped tossing when they were 7 years old their eyesight would have recovered within 801.36 spins which equates to 269.69 tosses calculated at an average peni length of 44.2 cm and girth of 2.31.

Absurd you may say but had they fit the criteria of the average thick **** then multiplied the certainty by the possibility of a happy outcome over 40 years...........they would have been average intellectually and not wearing spectacles or suffering blistered knob ends.

IMVHO it was the introduction of Martyn...........the 3rd head that fuked it all up?

THAT GT MOLE CALLED ME A COMMON GARDEN FORUM NUTTER ,AND HE DOESNT EVEN KNOW IF IVE GOT MY OWN TEETH OR WETHER IM BALD OR NOT ,HE JUST THROWS HURTING HORRIBLE WORDS AROUND

WHILST THE PROFESSOR HAS A FORMULA FOR EVERYTHING

but you want to dance with them

HE SAID DO WAH DIDDY DONT TRY AND EDUCATE THEM ,THERE THE KIND OF PEOPLE THAT SPIT IN THE STREET ,BUT WHEN YOU SPIT IN THE STREET THEY LOOK AT YOU AS THOUGH YOUR DIRT

i thought you are on holiday

Sea that ooh add you durnt evin reed CDSY,eye sid ere werent common or garden.

i do not have to work for 3 weeks.does that constitute a holiday

WHEN I FIRST MET THE PROFESSOR WE WERE EATING CUCUMBER SANWICHES OFF A BIG PLATE ,THEY WERE CUT IN QUARTERS THE PROFESSOR SAID LOOK DO WAH DIDDY ,HESAID 4 OF THEM QUARTERS MAKE A WHOLE ONE ,ITS ALL TO DO WITH MATHAMATICS ,NOW THATS HOW A GENIUSIS MIND WORKS HES ON THE JOB ALL THE TIME

IF YOU TOOK THEM COINS OFF YOU LOT ON HERE ,AND YOU COULDNT TOSS ANYTHING YOUD ALL BE LOST ,YOU USE THEM COINS EVERY TIME YOU TRY AND PROOVE SOMETHING

was there a hint of vinegar on the cucumber

I SAID TO PROFESSOR HAWKINS WOULD YOU LIKE A CUCUMBER SANWHIBCH HE SAID NO THANK YOU ,BUT GIVE ME A 15% PIECE OF THAT CHOCOLATE CAKE ,I THINK HES ON THE SAME WAVE LENTHAS THE HARVARD PROFESSOR

exactly, the chocolate cake wouldnt float in outer space

It would help your credibility if you could spell his name right! I used to be an astrophysicist and I used to work in the same group as him. Somehow I don't believe anything you say.

I know the NH season has not ended yet as it has merely taken a breather but methinks it will be a long summer while we wait for the PP meeting in November. One flew over ...... and all that.

I used to dream about being a nasty ****,then I found the military.

Changed my whole outlook,homos were illegal,bad manners were frowned upon as was hurting people who did not deserve to be hurt.

Feeding those who needed to be fed,protecting those who needed to be protected from malignant evil.

All fulfilled until ryanwe exposed this pit of venomous vipers.

gt  you going racing next 3 weeks

Probably not chav but not impossible.Fook nose what might come up next out East.

Plan is to have at least the next month on the boat and do plenty of relaxing and fishing,season near to starting.

All fulfilled until ryanwe exposed this pit of venomous vipers.

a good description of AW racing

but not NH racing please

myself and mrs chav may sojourn to warmer climes .good health sir

DWD well clearly the mathematician is wrong as at 5 % over round it is very possible to win. In HK the market is an average of 19 % over round and it has been possible to make a living and with the exotics it is 33 % over round and that's where it is most possible.

HAPPY VALLEY P T A IT DOESNT MATTER WHERE YOU LIVE HE SAID YOU CANT WIN AT GAMBLING ,

LIVING IN HONG KONG HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT

AND IT DOESNT MATTER WHAT NATIONALITY YOU ARE ITS THE SAME FOR ALL OF US

2838 VIEWS OF THIS THREAD ITS UP THERE WITH

WHERE DO YOU PUT YOUR CHEWING GUM WHEN YOUVE FINISHED WITH IT

Classic thread Do Wah Diddy,very funny,keep them coming.