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benefit the punter more or the bookmaker?? Their selections are not up on ATRs website 5mins before the prices are slashed across the board. Are they lining punters pockets or are they marking the bookie chappys cards?? Taking into account most punters who fancy the same selections have to take reduced prices and also obviously all their selections dont win.
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If you bet before they put their tips up you'll get the price
718, Joevalue posed 2 Qs when starting this thread and u answered neither, of course if u bet before any tipping line u get the best price IMO the bookies kno what high profile tipping lines are tipping up long before the public do...........
"the bookies know what high profile tipping lines are tipping up long before the public do". How do they know ? Clairvoyance ? If you'd studied price changes carefully , you would see you are talking nonsense.
lazarus2,
You should try and reply to betting threads in a constructive manner, if you feel you are well versed in the subject then respond to the OP / posters in a helpful way. No wonder you receive so much grief on this forum responding as you have.
You should try and reply to betting threads in a constructive manner, if you feel you are well versed in the subject then respond to the OP / posters in a helpful way. No wonder you receive so much grief on this forum responding as you have.
Hi joevalue147
Answer to your ? is it benefits both punter and bookmaker....
If as a PUNTER you are able to get on at prices advertised then you can safely lay out after 10 minutes and get a guaranteed profit.
Benefits BOOKMAKERS as they are laying their selections at much shorter odds, Bandstand for example yesterday was top priced at 7-1 within a few mins some were as low as 4-1 LOL
As a punter, would you back the horse ay 4-1? NO
Answer to your ? is it benefits both punter and bookmaker....
If as a PUNTER you are able to get on at prices advertised then you can safely lay out after 10 minutes and get a guaranteed profit.
Benefits BOOKMAKERS as they are laying their selections at much shorter odds, Bandstand for example yesterday was top priced at 7-1 within a few mins some were as low as 4-1 LOL
As a punter, would you back the horse ay 4-1? NO
It makes zero difference, they are just a function of the market to be aware of.
If they tip something & it shortens then eventually other horses in the race will lengthen thus they create value elsewhere when you wish to oppose their selections.
I appreciate it can be annoying if they put something up that you were planning on backing it just has to be worked around either by backing before they put up or when you are too late either change your selection or skip the race.
If they tip something & it shortens then eventually other horses in the race will lengthen thus they create value elsewhere when you wish to oppose their selections.
I appreciate it can be annoying if they put something up that you were planning on backing it just has to be worked around either by backing before they put up or when you are too late either change your selection or skip the race.
From my stats............
If you back at advised prices, and you have to be very quick, the punters benefit as they both show healthy profits.
If you back at starting prices, the bookmaker benefits as they both show losses.
However, in the long term, even if you get those early prices, the bookmakers will restrict/close your accounts.
Therefore, bookmakers win long term, although neither tipster is to blame.
If you back at advised prices, and you have to be very quick, the punters benefit as they both show healthy profits.
If you back at starting prices, the bookmaker benefits as they both show losses.
However, in the long term, even if you get those early prices, the bookmakers will restrict/close your accounts.
Therefore, bookmakers win long term, although neither tipster is to blame.
WFT,from your stats,is GO'B really in profit?If he were I would have thought that ATR would publish his results in the same way they do with HT.
Didn't know prices were slashed 5 mins before selections put up. If thats the case then it's a misleading column. At least PW horses
are available to small money at the prices quoted.
are available to small money at the prices quoted.
Ok fraudy,you being an avid follower of G O'B would sureliy have a record of his P/L put it up and let's see.
Gary O'Brien, after 505 tips, at prices that were available when I became aware of the tip i.e. not his advertised prices, shows a profit of £455.96, based on a £10 stake per bet.
At starting price, he shows a loss of £472.32.
At starting price, he shows a loss of £472.32.
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