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Possibly the least effort i have seen in the saddle for weeks DISGRACE
Stewards should have him in
Stewards should have him in
that was pretty bad - the pretend whip action particularly
when the blue button is pressed you see different intent on the beasts....
even boycie saw it
could not bring himself to be honest though
could not bring himself to be honest though
I have been on her for over 10 years , and do not come on critizing every ride that gets one of mine beaten, but
Adam Carter that was pathetic (I'm being kind )and ought to be looked at by the stewards
Adam Carter that was pathetic (I'm being kind )and ought to be looked at by the stewards
Clearly "Funny as f**k" is the first part of the Faffa acronym - anyone know the rest?
boycie is puttin it straight in2 his tracker.....cheers boycie.....
Looks across inside furlong,FFS please let something win
where do you start with that the whole ride was a disgrace
As usual Boyce is watching the racing with his fcking head up his @rse.
boycie,I have put something into my notebook.`to watch out for this jockey on drifters`
He's reading out moronic emails,whilst the cancer of our sport goes unmentioned
that is it boycie go back to the over round subject
Everyone e-mail boycie, get them to show the race in slowmo and highlight Faffa, if enough do so surely he cant ignore it with 30 mins between races.
Adam Carter thread gone, it didn't happen lads
no back to excusing gibbons again
boycie you are a pathetic excuse of a man
boycie you are a pathetic excuse of a man
My thread taken down, and the gravy train rolls on 
here he goes again
"you have to watch the whole race "
i did sean and it was still a pathetic ride
"you have to watch the whole race "
i did sean and it was still a pathetic ride
fook the tweets and e-mails and tracker buffoonery SHOW THE WHOLE RACE.
oh yes i am sure aussie jim will be reporting on it sean
he is so pisssed he does not no what day it is
he is so pisssed he does not no what day it is
Why say we have to see the whole race then proceed to show only the last furlong ?
They don't want to show the whole race because it was that bad and Boycie would have to fall off his fence
They don't want to show the whole race because it was that bad and Boycie would have to fall off his fence
Carter must have been **** it when they started coming back to him, luckily the horse managed to 'lug' in behind Sewn Up
agree with a lot what has been said but you have to remember the problem is it's all potentially libellous nowadays.
Look at the recent twitter problems with Mcalpine.
That's mostly why threads get pulled and nothing gets said on air.
Look at the recent twitter problems with Mcalpine.
That's mostly why threads get pulled and nothing gets said on air.
ffs just watched it what do the so called stewards have to see before they get off the ar@s and do something
If we can't get Boyce to criticise a ride like that then we've lost the fcking war lads.
crikey is that right the stewards have left the bar and are looking at it somebody get me a brandy i"am in shock
Only when the ATR server is about crash with the amount of emails comming in. Now they look at it.
virtual 
- potentially yeah. ATR have already had their scares.
- potentially yeah. ATR have already had their scares.
what does a trader get for inside trading? 5 - 10 years?
appreciate what you are saying
however there is a way of expressing shock or even disgust at a ride without inferring anything more
they manage it with the us tracks every evening
however there is a way of expressing shock or even disgust at a ride without inferring anything more
they manage it with the us tracks every evening
agree with that Virtual. I think some are so careful not to trip up, not enough gets said.
things like that ride should be discussed on the sunday forum instead of it being a trainers love in
Arena Leisure plc is a public limited company based in London, England, now owned by the Reuben Brothers. The company operates seven of the UK's horse racing courses - giving it a 23% share of the UK horse racing market - as well as and other leisure industry interests.
Founded in 1997, the company acted as an acquisitions vehicle to buy a number of UK racecourses ad leisure interests, also spanning golf courses and hotels, and joint ventures with a 47.85% stake in "At The Races". The hotels are all leased to major hotel chains.[1]
Arena became dominant in the UK horse racing industry by adapting three of its tracks - Lingfield Park, Southwell Park and Wolverhampton - to artificial surfaces using the Polytrack system.[2] Giving it 3 of the 4 of the UK's all weather tracks, means that it can utilise them throughout the year and in different weather conditions, increasing usage and hence revenue.
Having built up a 29.9% stake in the company, the second largest behind race horse owner Trevor Hemmings with 40%,[3] after approval from the Office of Fair Trading that there was no need to refer the proposed bid to the Competition Commission,[4] in April 2012 Reuben Brothers bought Arena Leisure. It now operate it and former competitor Northern Racing together, but still presently under two separate brands.[5]
Now you know why NO ride at the AW tracks above, will ever be questioned by the puppets on ATR
Founded in 1997, the company acted as an acquisitions vehicle to buy a number of UK racecourses ad leisure interests, also spanning golf courses and hotels, and joint ventures with a 47.85% stake in "At The Races". The hotels are all leased to major hotel chains.[1]
Arena became dominant in the UK horse racing industry by adapting three of its tracks - Lingfield Park, Southwell Park and Wolverhampton - to artificial surfaces using the Polytrack system.[2] Giving it 3 of the 4 of the UK's all weather tracks, means that it can utilise them throughout the year and in different weather conditions, increasing usage and hence revenue.
Having built up a 29.9% stake in the company, the second largest behind race horse owner Trevor Hemmings with 40%,[3] after approval from the Office of Fair Trading that there was no need to refer the proposed bid to the Competition Commission,[4] in April 2012 Reuben Brothers bought Arena Leisure. It now operate it and former competitor Northern Racing together, but still presently under two separate brands.[5]
Now you know why NO ride at the AW tracks above, will ever be questioned by the puppets on ATR
1 Jade green, flame hooped sleeves, black cap 3. Faffa (4)ATR Tracker 7/2 3 8 - 7
A Carter (5)
T D Easterby
58
steadied start, soon slightly outpaced in last, closed over 1f out, never near to challenge ==== the atr synopsis .they must be watching a different race to the rest of us if they reckon he was never placed to challenge
A Carter (5)
T D Easterby
58
steadied start, soon slightly outpaced in last, closed over 1f out, never near to challenge ==== the atr synopsis .they must be watching a different race to the rest of us if they reckon he was never placed to challenge
Boycey reporting that the stewards are reconvening to have another look at it. He thinks they may be considering putting it in their trackers too.
rule (B)59.2, which states a horse must be ridden in such a way that a genuine attempt is made to obtain the best possible placing
The tie-in between Arena ( now ARC I think ) and ATR is a little worrying 
What was said above about ATR commentators on US racing is quite correct. They never quite say it is be nt but they do talk about awful rides. Very rarely do the latter in the UK. Surely not libellous to say the guy's no good.
What was said above about ATR commentators on US racing is quite correct. They never quite say it is be nt but they do talk about awful rides. Very rarely do the latter in the UK. Surely not libellous to say the guy's no good.
1) Why blame the jockey? Anyone really think that was his idea?
2) Why continue to bet on a sport where all that matters is inside knowledge?
2) Why continue to bet on a sport where all that matters is inside knowledge?
Blackwater
Have you ever considered working for ATR or the Racing Post?
Have you ever considered working for ATR or the Racing Post?
has nobody mentioned the betting through the day ?win and place
How many times have you lot wasted down to do a weight could be the new how many winners have you ridden imo.
He got 10 days lol
Should have got 9 months and warned if done again life ban.
Should have got 9 months and warned if done again life ban.
Surely, the trainer deserves the ban. The kid was only doing what he was told. Unfortunately, he did it badly. Bad day at the office for Mr Carter. I'm sure the trainer will more than compensate him for whatever rides he misses.
That ban will have cemented his career.
10 days to guarantee he can be trusted to keep stum and ride to orders.
A very small price to pay for a leap up the racing ladder.
10 days to guarantee he can be trusted to keep stum and ride to orders.
A very small price to pay for a leap up the racing ladder.
easterby's have been at it for years nothing ever done
I'm sure the directors of the owners of faffa - habton farms will make thier displeasure known to the trainers... :)
Deltâ - just watched this race (had to take zak to the vet - he broke a nail in the snow - had it taken off under anesthetic - bless him - nevertheless i think u have a fair point here 
would love to hear the C4 view of this during their round up of the week - if they are going to have any credibility in respect of punting aspect of racing then they have to state at very best that was a misjudged ride! francome many many times went on about rhythm and carter got that one into more quick-quick-slows than your average austrian waltz composer! they must know they're going to get away with it (and it must be worth their while - Betfair please produce the figures?) but we're all wise to the tricks now, only it's too late for the poor mugs who've broken away from their 72nd roulette spin of the day to have a fiver on the bleeding AW!!
Having watched this race in the betting shop, I was amazed at the price of the horse in the first place because it certainly should have been pushing Sewn Up for favourite. When i saw it was third favourite and drifting on Betfair I just thought that it was too good a price to let go. What I should have engaged was my brain because the price told you what was going to happen during the race. Yes we all know now that he got left behind in the first furlong (well done Easterby will be telling the lad) and made absolutely no effort to win finishing with alot of horse underneath him. Either this was down to a clown of a ride or a well mastered pre race plan coming to fruition.I think the majority of punters know the answer to that! What really annoys us punters is that nothing ever gets done and yet again the wonderful AW Racing is losing its credibility totally now (if it ever had any). In my opinion the horse should be banned from racing for 6 months along with all connections.
The Stewards held an enquiry into the running and riding of FAFFA, ridden by Adam Carter and trained by Tim Easterby, which was tenderly handled over the final two furlongs before running on to finish third beaten 2¼ lengths.
They interviewed the rider and the trainer’s representative. They also received a report from the Veterinary Officer. The rider stated his instructions were to drop in, to get the gelding to settle as he had run keenly over five furlongs in his previous race. He added that having taken a pull on leaving the stalls FAFFA was initially outpaced and then tended to run in snatches.
He went on to say that whilst he was happy with his position round the final bend, he had been wasting heavily at short notice and after feeling weak in the straight was consequently unable to ride more vigorously and go for his whip. The trainer’s representative confirmed the instructions and conceded that he could have ridden a stronger finish. Having heard their evidence and viewed recordings of the race the Stewards found the rider in breach of Rule (B)59.4 and guilty of failing to take all reasonable and permissible measures to obtain the best possible placing.
They suspended him for 10 days as follows: Tuesday 5, Wednesday 6, Thursday 7, Friday 8, Saturday 9, Sunday 10, Monday 11, Tuesday 12, Wednesday 13, Thursday 14 February 2013.
They interviewed the rider and the trainer’s representative. They also received a report from the Veterinary Officer. The rider stated his instructions were to drop in, to get the gelding to settle as he had run keenly over five furlongs in his previous race. He added that having taken a pull on leaving the stalls FAFFA was initially outpaced and then tended to run in snatches.
He went on to say that whilst he was happy with his position round the final bend, he had been wasting heavily at short notice and after feeling weak in the straight was consequently unable to ride more vigorously and go for his whip. The trainer’s representative confirmed the instructions and conceded that he could have ridden a stronger finish. Having heard their evidence and viewed recordings of the race the Stewards found the rider in breach of Rule (B)59.4 and guilty of failing to take all reasonable and permissible measures to obtain the best possible placing.
They suspended him for 10 days as follows: Tuesday 5, Wednesday 6, Thursday 7, Friday 8, Saturday 9, Sunday 10, Monday 11, Tuesday 12, Wednesday 13, Thursday 14 February 2013.
Meanwhile the folks who laid the horse keep the money.
10 days???
No wonder the punters are deserting racing for FOBTs.
No wonder the punters are deserting racing for FOBTs.
people are betting in good faith on these races,by giving him a 10 day ban the stewards are finding him guilty of fixing the outcome of a sporting event.(Match fixing)so surely this has to be taken further or racing loses all credibility.this and its likes should go before some sort of disciplinary board with hefty bans and fines imposed. this was blatant and needs eradicating.he should be sharing a cell with salman butt!
surely the stewards are not buying the wasting to do the weight excuse because it was clear the whip was waved but not used baffling
how that horse performed is entirely his responsibility and a 10 day ban is f@ck all as for the connections this is why the stewards should hand it over to be investigated. throw em all in jail if guilty
If the stewards are willing to accept that explanation then it really makes you wonder what it takes for them to say
ARE YOU HAVING A F UCKING LAUGH
ARE YOU HAVING A F UCKING LAUGH
I've been out today, was there a proper non jigger then?
10% winners carter yet if you look at his rides even when winning he does actually look very very average even if run again i wouldn't have relyed on him winning the race!
just another drop in the ocean , the stewards are in on this as much as the jockey.
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I would have relied on him losing though...
Thats what i'm saying he isn't any better flat out,he may have rode 10% winners but still looks poor to me compared to thomas brown there's no comparison i wouldn't see it a great advantage him claiming 7 pound.
Replies: 3833 22 Jan 13 22:45
I would have relied on him losing though...
Thats what i'm saying he isn't any better flat out,he may have rode 10% winners but still looks poor to me compared to thomas brown there's no comparison i wouldn't see it a great advantage him claiming 7 pound.
I agree gigglo.
A poor choice by the stable (When you look at the stopping jockeys available on the AW).
Over complicating the tactics.
They could have told him to set it alight from the stalls and go 4 furlong pace. Beaten before the turn and as a %lb claimer the stewards could have done nothing about a kid getting teh fractions wrong.
I suspect the days of missing the break may be over and days of losing from the front coming.
A poor choice by the stable (When you look at the stopping jockeys available on the AW).
Over complicating the tactics.
They could have told him to set it alight from the stalls and go 4 furlong pace. Beaten before the turn and as a %lb claimer the stewards could have done nothing about a kid getting teh fractions wrong.
I suspect the days of missing the break may be over and days of losing from the front coming.
Brainless trainer getting him to ride,probably wouldn't have won anyway!A nice 50k fine for the trainer should be the way forward.
exactly giggilo , fine them to the hill and remove a few licences for life.
I can't remember ever being so annoyed for so long about a race where I didn't even have a bet! 10 day ban for the jock? How about 10 months, big fine for the trainer and the exchanges look into who was laying the animal so heavily!!! I wonder if the RP will mention this?
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