Welcome to Live View – Take the tour to learn more
Start Tour
There is currently 1 person viewing this thread.
19 Jan 13
17:10
Joined:
Date Joined:
24 Nov 10
i only live ten miles from this place, and i have heard rumours of a local trainer who has sent horses there, any trainer found doing this should lose his licence forever,it might cost a few precious pounds but surely its better to have the horse destroyed humanely ,than to sell it for £200 to places like this.
Show More
i take it you havent seen the pictures...........utterly disgraceful
I would be too frightened to look. How can anyone own a horse and resort to that.
Are the pics disturbing.
Are the pics disturbing.
Yes, they are awful.
I caught a glimpse of them and read some of the text when scrolling through the Daily Mail website. I didn't need or want to look closer.
I'm fighting to keep the image of one poor horse out my head. It's probably the most disturbing and upsetting incident involving a horse that I have ever known.
Disgraceful that any animal should end up in a place like this.
I caught a glimpse of them and read some of the text when scrolling through the Daily Mail website. I didn't need or want to look closer.
I'm fighting to keep the image of one poor horse out my head. It's probably the most disturbing and upsetting incident involving a horse that I have ever known.
Disgraceful that any animal should end up in a place like this.
lets get that 29% horse-meat up to 100% anything rated below 50 after 3 runs should be turned into beef imo .
" Tesco turns mince into beef last chance maiden stakes" has a ring to it
" Tesco turns mince into beef last chance maiden stakes" has a ring to it
has to be one of the worst post i've read BnB.
shocking stuff, even for a saturgay night.
shocking stuff, even for a saturgay night.
crazy how these people can do it, im angry at the idea of any trainer doing this, does anyone know who used to train the ex race horse they discovered im sure the report named it as underwriter. IMO over breeding will cause this issue
am still waiting on Bob Cooper making a comment whilst munching on a pie/burger ....a love his racecourse cuisine comments ...reckon he could be the face of Tesco,s add campaign....The Bob Cooper range of "fast food" ....
a can just picture Bob Standing trackside at some desolate NH track munching on a pie whilst plugging "The Tesco fast hornless bovine pie stakes for slow maiden hurdlers " and giving it hmmmm this is delicious whilst half the contents slither down his shirt and tie ....
c,mon Bob you know you want too....
a can just picture Bob Standing trackside at some desolate NH track munching on a pie whilst plugging "The Tesco fast hornless bovine pie stakes for slow maiden hurdlers " and giving it hmmmm this is delicious whilst half the contents slither down his shirt and tie ....
c,mon Bob you know you want too....
Hypocritically - sorry meant hypothetically - ££££££££££££'s
The Food Standards Agency and the RSPCA have launched investigations into an abattoir after undercover footage revealed shocking abuse and neglect of horses.
The footage also shows allegedly illegal procedures when slaughtering horses destined for European food markets. Two slaughtermen have had their licences withdrawn as a result, the food watchdog said.
The film was taken at the Red Lion abattoir near Nantwich, Cheshire, after an eight-week investigation by the Hillside Animal Sanctuary.
It comes amid public anger that some of the biggest supermarket chains, including Tesco, have been selling beefburgers and other products containing horse meat.
The abattoir footage shows horses being beaten with sticks, a rope or an iron rod to encourage them into pens. Some are crammed into the slaughter pens in pairs and on one occasion in a group of three, and are then stunned together.
Under the Welfare of Animals Regulations 1995, horses should not be slaughtered in sight of one another because of the distress it causes.
Craig Kirby, FSA head of approvals and veterinary advice, said: "I was shocked by the footage and that is why we took immediate action to make sure the individuals involved could not continue to slaughter animals. The FSA takes animal welfare at slaughter very seriously, and we will always investigate and take action when we see breaches of the legislation."
The FSA is investigating further with a view to a potential prosecution.
Wendy Valentine, founder of Hillside Animal Sanctuary, described conditions at the abattoir as "really traumatic".
"It was just so harrowing and horrifying," she added.
An RSPCA spokesman said: "The footage is shocking and upsetting to watch. With the Welfare of Animals (Slaughter or Killing) Regulations 1995 in mind, we have concerns that horses appear to be in the stunning pen at the same time rather than individually, as the law requires.
"We also have concerns about some of the animals that appear to be injured. We have requested a copy of the unedited footage with a view to investigating."
Red Lion told Sky News that it treats animal welfare and public health with paramount importance.
"In attendance at the Red Lion abattoir are three full-time food standards officers comprising of an official veterinarian and full-time meat hygiene inspectors throughout production," it said in a statement.
The incidents in the footage are "not the norm but of an isolated nature", it added.
The abattoir said it has taken disciplinary action against the individual featured.
Its statement said: "I agree horses should individually enter the stunning area and most certainly not three at a time. However, small horses and ponies having spent years together as companions are difficult to separate. Horse lovers would understand that.
"My opinion and that of other veterinarians is it is better to keep those types together to reduce the stress, providing swift dispatch is achieved."
The abattoir said its meat was not part of the recent supermarket burger scandal.
The footage also shows allegedly illegal procedures when slaughtering horses destined for European food markets. Two slaughtermen have had their licences withdrawn as a result, the food watchdog said.
The film was taken at the Red Lion abattoir near Nantwich, Cheshire, after an eight-week investigation by the Hillside Animal Sanctuary.
It comes amid public anger that some of the biggest supermarket chains, including Tesco, have been selling beefburgers and other products containing horse meat.
The abattoir footage shows horses being beaten with sticks, a rope or an iron rod to encourage them into pens. Some are crammed into the slaughter pens in pairs and on one occasion in a group of three, and are then stunned together.
Under the Welfare of Animals Regulations 1995, horses should not be slaughtered in sight of one another because of the distress it causes.
Craig Kirby, FSA head of approvals and veterinary advice, said: "I was shocked by the footage and that is why we took immediate action to make sure the individuals involved could not continue to slaughter animals. The FSA takes animal welfare at slaughter very seriously, and we will always investigate and take action when we see breaches of the legislation."
The FSA is investigating further with a view to a potential prosecution.
Wendy Valentine, founder of Hillside Animal Sanctuary, described conditions at the abattoir as "really traumatic".
"It was just so harrowing and horrifying," she added.
An RSPCA spokesman said: "The footage is shocking and upsetting to watch. With the Welfare of Animals (Slaughter or Killing) Regulations 1995 in mind, we have concerns that horses appear to be in the stunning pen at the same time rather than individually, as the law requires.
"We also have concerns about some of the animals that appear to be injured. We have requested a copy of the unedited footage with a view to investigating."
Red Lion told Sky News that it treats animal welfare and public health with paramount importance.
"In attendance at the Red Lion abattoir are three full-time food standards officers comprising of an official veterinarian and full-time meat hygiene inspectors throughout production," it said in a statement.
The incidents in the footage are "not the norm but of an isolated nature", it added.
The abattoir said it has taken disciplinary action against the individual featured.
Its statement said: "I agree horses should individually enter the stunning area and most certainly not three at a time. However, small horses and ponies having spent years together as companions are difficult to separate. Horse lovers would understand that.
"My opinion and that of other veterinarians is it is better to keep those types together to reduce the stress, providing swift dispatch is achieved."
The abattoir said its meat was not part of the recent supermarket burger scandal.
Any bastard found abusing any animal deserves to be named and shamed.Instead of trying to stir up emotions OP.............name them and name the town(s) they live in?
That will do more to fukc them up than the RSPCA (Labour Party) ever will.
That will do more to fukc them up than the RSPCA (Labour Party) ever will.
I havent looked at the footage kenny,in the past few months I have seen pieces of charred meat that were once humans.Nothing new there tbh but I find it hard to look at abuse of animals,feel helpless on both counts.
Name and shame the bastards responsible imo?
Name and shame the bastards responsible imo?
Absolutely GT, but one must be very careful, and be absolutely certain of course.
Hi Kenny you ok?
This sounds horrible, where did the story come from?
This sounds horrible, where did the story come from?
Hi parachute, various reports of the evil cretins on google, I think mine was from The Guardian. Makes one's blood boil.
Hi Kenny, this sounds awful.
I think you are right though, I'd like to see prosecutions in cruelty cases and hope anybody with evidence will go to the police and RSPCA with it.
Keep up the good work mate !
I think you are right though, I'd like to see prosecutions in cruelty cases and hope anybody with evidence will go to the police and RSPCA with it.
Keep up the good work mate !
is there a link to this story please? i am sure this is an abbatoir i have been to about 4 or 5 times to collect samples. i myself have witnessed hoeses there and tbh the conditions look pretty grim for both the animals and the workers.
http://news.sky.com/story/1040057/horse-abattoir-film-reveals-welfare-breaches
All there ...have your breakfast after viewing
All there ...have your breakfast after viewing
underwriter was trained locally at ashton by will kinsey.............i will make enquiries
Absolute scum. Small minded cowardly men who take their own shortcomings out on defenceless animals. None of them should escape punishment or retribution for their evil acts. Trainers sending live animals to a place like that should look at themselves very closely and if they are happy with their actions they should give in their licenses as they are not in a profession where they will ever be happy.
This one mentions trainers names.http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2006/oct/01/horseracing.sport
What i seen was one horse hanging of the ground by his back feet, his head was about 5 ft off the floor so you can imagine how far off the ground his back legs were and that filthy piece of scum was cutting the horses throat and it still conscious and a previous shot of one horse been stunned and two horses standing in the background watching it.
maybe breadnbutter and the others who thought it funny to crack jokes, could come back on now after watching and reading the above links, is it really funny?
IF ANYONE DOUBTS THERE IS A HELL ON EARTH WATCH THIS KIND OF STUFF,ALTHOUGH HOW ANYONE COULD WATCH AND IT HAVE NO EFFECT IS BEYOND ME.
All sad stuff.How many of the lesser talented horses that we get attached to over the years end up in places like this.I used to follow a half decent horse called Finalmente who suddenly stopped racing,tried to find out what happened to him but never got any replies.
I started to watch the video but I had to switch it off.
So saddening.
So saddening.
have not looked at any pictures and don't intend to, no doubt this is a continuing theme of horsemeat in the human foodchain and is intended to shock ,none of my comments were concerning mistreatment .
to put thoroughbreds on a pedestal and suggest they should be slaughtered in a more compassionate fashion than any other of the 100,s of thousands of chickens,goats,sheep,pigs or cattle that are killed on a daily basis in the uk is fanciful and is designed to shock .
of course any cruelty to animals is unacceptable ,but slaughtering is slaughtering and i would doubt the average sheep is afforded much compassion at the abattoir.
if people feel that strong about horses they should look for some sort of system that means the last OWNERS of a horse have the responsibility of what happens to it when it becomes surplus to requirement and perhaps something could be done but its all about money .
there is enough human suffering in the world without looking to see how our food is killed and play the outraged card ...all Halal meat is killed by cutting of the throat is this acceptable ? kids are dying in Africa of starvation whilst we in the west throw away half our food so dont preach to me about suffering .
to put thoroughbreds on a pedestal and suggest they should be slaughtered in a more compassionate fashion than any other of the 100,s of thousands of chickens,goats,sheep,pigs or cattle that are killed on a daily basis in the uk is fanciful and is designed to shock .
of course any cruelty to animals is unacceptable ,but slaughtering is slaughtering and i would doubt the average sheep is afforded much compassion at the abattoir.
if people feel that strong about horses they should look for some sort of system that means the last OWNERS of a horse have the responsibility of what happens to it when it becomes surplus to requirement and perhaps something could be done but its all about money .
there is enough human suffering in the world without looking to see how our food is killed and play the outraged card ...all Halal meat is killed by cutting of the throat is this acceptable ? kids are dying in Africa of starvation whilst we in the west throw away half our food so dont preach to me about suffering .
fact of life it happens but in a so called civilised country like this they deserve to die with a bit of compassion and dignity. my issue was with you making a joke about it without watching it, its about the beating and miss treatment before they die.
what it has to do with what is happening in the world is beyond me or maybe an admission you were wrong.
what it has to do with what is happening in the world is beyond me or maybe an admission you were wrong.
I dont want to see this film . But what does everyone think happens to ex/failed race horses . Far to many to be re-homed .Deep down i think everyone knows alot of horses and greyhounds are slaughtered after there days of entertaining us are over . But if anyone can afford to set up a retirement place for these animals it would be nice . P S there are charities that do help these animals but as i said far too many horses leave the sport ,
BREADNBUTTER,WHAT HAPPENS IN THE REST OF THE WORLD WE CANT DO MUCH ABOUT,BUT WE CAN IN THIS COUNTRY AND THE NOTION THAT ALL ANIMALS ARE DESPATCHED IN A DECENT AND HUMANE WAY IN THIS COUNTRY IS UTTER BLLKS,AS FOR HALAL MEAT HOW THAT WAS EVER ALLOWED IN BRITAIN I WILL NEVER NO,O WAIT A MIN ITS CALLED MULTI CULTUREISM
come someone put a link of a horse being slaughtered in an abattoir with "compassion and dignity" i am no expert on killing so would need to see how it should be done before i could judge .
so beating with a rod and stick is okay. herding three horses in at a time is common practice.
you made a joke imo you were out of order, will leave it at that
you made a joke imo you were out of order, will leave it at that
THE POINT BEING THIS COUNTRY PRIDES ITSELF ON ANIMAL WELFARE AND HUSBANDRY,WHEN IN REALITY WE ARE JUST AS BARBARIC AS THE WORSE OFFENDERS.
Man lands on moon...animals are been horrifically slaughtered daily around UK and Ireland like this so humans can consume their flesh. These boys just got caught!!!
Around 13000 Thoroughbreds foals will be born this year in ireland do people really believe the all will live in flowery grassy paddocks even if they are no use?
Around 13000 Thoroughbreds foals will be born this year in ireland do people really believe the all will live in flowery grassy paddocks even if they are no use?
it was ironic that ire was the place to detect horsemeat in burgers
I don't understand the outrage, any farm animal that dies that is not fit for human consumption gets dragged up the lorry ramp and put in the pet food pot.
from the guardian article ....
· There are estimated to be more than one million horses in the UK, with 20,000 in horseracing.
---------------------
Blimey !
What do the other 980,000 do, then?
We don't need them to 'work the land' anymore.
· There are estimated to be more than one million horses in the UK, with 20,000 in horseracing.
---------------------
Blimey !
What do the other 980,000 do, then?
We don't need them to 'work the land' anymore.
breadnbutter 20 Jan 13 16:14
come someone put a link of a horse being slaughtered in an abattoir with "compassion and dignity" i am no expert on killing so would need to see how it should be done before i could judge .
Well they STUN them and then kill them.
NOT whilst the poor fckrs are starting to come round
come someone put a link of a horse being slaughtered in an abattoir with "compassion and dignity" i am no expert on killing so would need to see how it should be done before i could judge .
Well they STUN them and then kill them.
NOT whilst the poor fckrs are starting to come round
jmc27 20 Jan 13 16:34
Man lands on moon...animals are been horrifically slaughtered daily around UK and Ireland like this so humans can consume their flesh. These boys just got caught!!!
Around 13000 Thoroughbreds foals will be born this year in ireland do people really believe the all will live in flowery grassy paddocks even if they are no use?
NO
Most dont even see a racetrack.
GREED
Man lands on moon...animals are been horrifically slaughtered daily around UK and Ireland like this so humans can consume their flesh. These boys just got caught!!!
Around 13000 Thoroughbreds foals will be born this year in ireland do people really believe the all will live in flowery grassy paddocks even if they are no use?
NO
Most dont even see a racetrack.
GREED
Why oh why do we allow Halal butchery in this country?
When God created the horse He said to the magnificant creature: I have made thee as no other. All the treasures of the earth shall be between thy eyes. Thou shalt cast mine enemies between thy hooves, but thou shalt carry my friends upon thy back. The saddle shall be the seat of prayers to Me. And thou shalt fly without wings and conquer without sword. O Horse. (I read this last week)
A creature who has served its owner to the best of its ability deserves a dignified end which does not involve ending up being killed inhumanely and then on to someones plate. A horse is domesticated just as cats and dogs are. A swift change of law is required. If you can afford to buy a horse then you can afford a vet to humanely destroy when its days are over.
A creature who has served its owner to the best of its ability deserves a dignified end which does not involve ending up being killed inhumanely and then on to someones plate. A horse is domesticated just as cats and dogs are. A swift change of law is required. If you can afford to buy a horse then you can afford a vet to humanely destroy when its days are over.
Post Your Reply
Please login to post a reply.
Wonder
Instance ID: 13539