pls list your 3 best commentators in UK or Ireland here....
.... and your 3 worst
Top 3 earn +20 pts, +10 and +5 pt respectively.
Bottom 3 earn -5, -10 and -20.
If your memory needs jogging, can select from amongst others:
Mike Cattermole Matt Chapman Tony Ennis Graham Goode Simon Holt John Hunt Mark Johnson Derek Thompson Stewart Machin Ian Bartlett Richard Hoiles Des Scahill Richard Pugh Darren Owen Tony O'Heir Lee McKenzie
Bottom Derek Thompson in a category all of his own, way way way below the others, who do at least try to commentate, and don't make a total f**king farcical joke of the job. Aussie Jim next Matt Chapman - though I think he's good in the booth, and I respect him for trying.
Top1. Simon Holt2. Richard Hoiles3. John HuntBottomDerek Thompson in a category all of his own, way way way below the others, who do at least try to commentate, and don't make a total f**king farcical joke of the job.Aussie Jim next Matt Chapman - th
1. David fitzgerald 2. Martin Harris 3. Richard Hoiles
Bottom
1. Thompson - odious cretin 2. Cattermole - opinionless soft **** 3. Mark Johnson - and they're in the gate
Top1. David fitzgerald2. Martin Harris3. Richard HoilesBottom1. Thompson - odious cretin2. Cattermole - opinionless soft ****3. Mark Johnson - and they're in the gate
Gerry Hanlon - enthusiastic, accurate and loud (but not in a 'phoney' kinda of way, seems to get a bit carried away and gives some of those commentaries everything he's got!).
John Hunt - has the voice for it, along with the delivery.
Martin Harris - cool, accurate and crystal clear.
Top 3Gerry Hanlon - enthusiastic, accurate and loud (but not in a 'phoney' kinda of way, seems to get a bit carried away and gives some of those commentaries everything he's got!).John Hunt - has the voice for it, along with the delivery.Martin Harr
Scahill - Miles past his sell by date, makes zero comments about jumping errors, pace etc, and basically churns out the same commentary every time with different horse names.
Cattermole - He's just sh!t. Listening to him on the radio you get no sense at all of how the race is going etc.
Tony O'Hehir - In fairness to the man he sounds ill doing his commentaries, but hearing him gasp for breath between sentences isn't exactly easy to listen to. Chuck in the fact he has no passion and you have an all round dull commentator.
Top:HoltPughHarrisBottom:Scahill - Miles past his sell by date, makes zero comments about jumping errors, pace etc, and basically churns out the same commentary every time with different horse names.Cattermole - He's just sh!t. Listening to him on th
Generally, they are a darned sight better than they were 30 years ago. The 1983 Triumph Hurdle on youtube is a classic for ordinary racecourse commentary.
Generally, they are a darned sight better than they were 30 years ago. The 1983 Triumph Hurdle on youtube is a classic for ordinary racecourse commentary.
sir peter agree miles ahead, goode used to be very good until he tried to be too clever, his commentary on fairy footsteps 1000 gns on you tube was brilliant imo, simon holt very overated
sir peter agree miles ahead, goode used to be very good until he tried to be too clever, his commentary on fairy footsteps 1000 gns on you tube was brilliant imo, simon holt very overated
Mind you, used to love it, years ago on here, In Running, when commentators like Thompson got unnecessarily excited about a horse, mid-race, and the price dropped a few points
Doesn't happen so much now.
Simon Holt is goodBut it's 99% having live picturesMind you, used to love it, years ago on here, In Running, when commentators like Thompson got unnecessarily excited about a horse, mid-race, and the price dropped a few pointsDoesn't happen so much n
Simon Holt 100 Richard Pugh 80 John Hunt 75 Richard Hoiles 70 Martin Harris 45 David Ftzgerald 40 Mark Johnson 25 Malcolm Tomlinson 25 Terry Spargo 20 Gerry Hanlon 20 Tim Peters 10 Stewart Machin 10 Simon Hunt 5 Darren Owen 5 Tony O'Hehir -5 Graham Goode -10 Jim McGrath -10 Matt Chapman -25 Derek Thompson -40 Ian Bartlett -40 Des Scahill -60 Mike Cattermole -65
People can slag Scahill all they like, and he is doing it a long time, but at least he does a commentary on what he sees in the race(he does miss fallers to be fair) unlike all his UK counterparts who's commentaries rely solely on the betting and concentrating on the 'favourite'.
People can slag Scahill all they like, and he is doing it a long time, but at least he does a commentary on what he sees in the race(he does miss fallers to be fair) unlike all his UK counterparts who's commentaries rely solely on the betting and con
Goode would have been in the bottom 3 but surely retired about 2 years ago. Chapman is also dreadful but he's been "retired" hasn't he ?
1.Hoiles2.Hunt3.HarrisWORST1.Thompson2.McKenzie3.JohnsonGoode would have been in the bottom 3 but surely retired about 2 years ago. Chapman is also dreadful but he's been "retired" hasn't he ?
Richard Hoiles 230 Simon Holt 180 John Hunt 135 Richard Pugh 80 Martin Harris 75 Mark Johnson 55 David Ftzgerald 40 Malcolm Tomlinson 25 Terry Spargo 20 Gerry Hanlon 20 Stewart Machin 15 Tim Peters 10 Simon Hunt 5 Darren Owen 5 Topham 5 Tony O'Hehir -5 Peter O'Hehir -10 Lee McKenzie -10 Graham Goode -30 Ian Bartlett -40 Matt Chapman -45 Jim McGrath -50 Des Scahill -60 Mike Cattermole -145 Derek Thompson -155
Richard Hoiles 285 Simon Holt 240 John Hunt 135 Richard Pugh 80 Martin Harris 75 Mark Johnson 75 David Ftzgerald 65 Darren Owen 45 Malcolm Tomlinson 25 Gerry Hanlon 25 Stewart Machin 25 Terry Spargo 20 Tim Peters 10 Gareth Topham 10 Simon Hunt 5 Peter O'Hehir -10 Tony O'Hehir -25 Graham Goode -30 Lee McKenzie -35 Ian Bartlett -60 Matt Chapman -65 Jim McGrath -85 Des Scahill -85 Mike Cattermole -150 Derek Thompson -215
Richard Hoiles 285Simon Holt 240John Hunt 135Richard Pugh 80Martin Harris 75Mark Johnson 75David Ftzgerald 65Darren Owen 45Malcolm Tomlinson 25Gerry Hanlon 25Stewart Machin 25Terry Spargo 20Tim Peters 10Gareth T
1 . iain mackenzie...............forgotten more about racing than most of us will ever know 2 . derek thompson...............infectious enthusiasm 3. ian barlett..................makes even the most mundane meeting sound classy
bottom three 1 mark johnson...................exhausting to listen too 2 stuart machin..................can do without the stupid puns 3 richard hoiles.................a vastly over-rated know all
1 . iain mackenzie...............forgotten more about racing than most of us will ever know2 . derek thompson...............infectious enthusiasm3. ian barlett..................makes even the most mundane meeting sound classy bottom three1 mark joh
Dont quite get this follow.ing for David Fitzgerald yet,may in time become one of the best as he is highly rated by his employers, still new at it and for me seems to over pronounce his words so he has time,also used to like John Hanmer, always used to call the fences on the way down to Bechers in the National, didnt do a lot of commentating so wasnt the best but his voice made the hairs on the back of my neck stand up
Dont quite get this follow.ing for David Fitzgerald yet,may in time become one of the best as he is highly rated by his employers, still new at it and for me seems to over pronounce his words so he has time,also used to like John Hanmer, always used
are his comms really that bad or is it his overall persona that people are putting him bottom 3 ?
i don't personally think they are worse than some of the others in this list, i can rem a couple of mistakes he's made but does that really drop him below chappers etc?
question for catt detractorsare his comms really that bad or is it his overall persona that people are putting him bottom 3 ?i don't personally think they are worse than some of the others in this list, i can rem a couple of mistakes he's made but do
Richard Hoiles 320 Simon Holt 240 John Hunt 150 Mark Johnson 85 Richard Pugh 80 Martin Harris 75 David Ftzgerald 65 Darren Owen 45 Malcolm Tomlinson 45 Gerry Hanlon 25 Stewart Machin 20 Terry Spargo 20 Ian McKenzie 20 Tim Peters 10 Gareth Topham 10 Simon Hunt 5 Peter O'Hehir -10 John Blance -10 Tony O'Hehir -25 Graham Goode -30 Lee McKenzie -35 Matt Chapman -65 Ian Bartlett -75 Jim McGrath -85 Des Scahill -85 Mike Cattermole -150 Derek Thompson -205
Richard Hoiles 320Simon Holt 240John Hunt 150Mark Johnson 85Richard Pugh 80Martin Harris 75David Ftzgerald 65Darren Owen 45Malcolm Tomlinson 45Gerry Hanlon 25Stewart Machin 20Terry Spargo 20Ian McKenzie 20Tim Pe
Poor result for Irish Commentators - Peader Flanagan doesnt even get a - vote and only two of the five get + figures. Is it the case that Irish Jocks are best but UK commentators are best? Always thought irish had the gift of teh gab!
Richard Pugh 80 Gerry Hanlon 25 Peter O'Hehir -10 Tony O'Hehir -25 Des Scahill -85
Poor result for Irish Commentators - Peader Flanagan doesnt even get a - vote and only two of the five get + figures. Is it the case that Irish Jocks are best but UK commentators are best?Always thought irish had the gift of teh gab!Richard Pugh 8
Looks like I'm a bit of a sheep, and a favourite backer;
1.Richard Hoiles 2.Simon Holt 3.Dead heat with quite a few in contention.
Dead-beats;
Dave Smith...I know he's finished now but I STILL can't stand him! Derek Thompson...I don't think there's anything else I can insult him with Matt Chapman...excellent value as a presenter, but the worst commentator of ALL time!
Looks like I'm a bit of a sheep, and a favourite backer;1.Richard Hoiles2.Simon Holt3.Dead heat with quite a few in contention.Dead-beats;Dave Smith...I know he's finished now but I STILL can't stand him!Derek Thompson...I don't think there's anythin
Scahill - just lists the horses from front to back then repeats until the race is run Jim "on settling down" McGrath Derek "they're not messing around" & "that's one for the judge" Thompson
BestHoilesMachinFitzgeraldWorst (by some considerable margin)Scahill - just lists the horses from front to back then repeats until the race is runJim "on settling down" McGrathDerek "they're not messing around" & "that's one for the judge" Thompson
Despite being an efficient & accurate caller, Dessie Scahill can be particularly annoying when not even informing us who is on the left (or right) when horses have very similar colours, and pre-race, he has NOTHING at all to say! As we all know, he hardly ever mentions a particular set of silks that's making up ground.
I once heard he has little interest in racing (not sure if it's true) but he evokes little enthusiasm throughout a race and he's effectively commentating on equine bingo!
Despite being an efficient & accurate caller, Dessie Scahill can be particularly annoying when not even informing us who is on the left (or right) when horses have very similar colours, and pre-race, he has NOTHING at all to say!As we all know, he ha
i dont know how thommo gets away with making a living from presenting and talking about horseracing..........hes not exactly a form expert.........and acts the clown a lot
i dont know how thommo gets away with making a living from presenting and talking about horseracing..........hes not exactly a form expert.........and acts the clown a lot
Johnson has the potential to be top 2 but is tremendously smug and tries to make too many 0-55 h'caps sound like the derby.
Worst - Is Very easy
The 2 utterly useless Irish commentators. HTF is Scahill let near a microphone!
and 3. M Chapman - `Franko is my name, WINNING is my game'. F&%k off you pr&$. Your career ended right there.
Best - 1. Holt2. Hunt3. MachinJohnson has the potential to be top 2 but is tremendously smug and tries to make too many 0-55 h'caps sound like the derby.Worst - Is Very easyThe 2 utterly useless Irish commentators. HTF is Scahill let near a microphon
Cattermole is a perfectly decent commentator, cannot possibly fathom how he could make anyones bottom 3.
Thommo is hilarious. You would all be missing his `OoOGH THATS CLOSE, I'll leave that to the judge' if he stopped.
Hoiles is very good.
Bartless could be very good but sounds like he is just turning up for the wages.
Cattermole is a perfectly decent commentator, cannot possibly fathom how he could make anyones bottom 3.Thommo is hilarious. You would all be missing his `OoOGH THATS CLOSE, I'll leave that to the judge' if he stopped.Hoiles is very good.Bartless cou