Did anyone hear (King) Alex Salmond on Today this morning?

He is nothing but an insular egotist.

Used to see at race meetings in Scotland seemed a canny fellow.

Lay off my Uncle Alex       

SS   for your sake I hope you're not related

i always think his comments are a bit fishy, to be taken with a pinch of salt

Used to laugh at his logic when he posted on here as fat dodgy....

You'll only get Slim Pickens now.

The Scottish people will see through the chicanery in the end......

god help them (and us) if they don't halcyon days...

The man is a charlatan and a disgrace. The fact he sees himself as a statesman is perhaps the most tragic thing about him. His party's economic policy could have been written on the back of a **** packet. The SNP's defence plans are even more of a joke. When asked about job security for naval workers at Rosyth under an independent Scotland, Angus Robertson (SNP defence spokesman) assured the workers that Scotland would still need their services, as the SNP planned to have a navy "about the size of Norway's". When asked how many ships Norway's navy currently had, Robertson said "I'm not actually sure but they've got a good website"

The funniest thing about it is the pro-union lobby haven't had to do anything as yet, they're happy to watch the SNP continually shooting themselves in the foot

wants to be the big fish in a small pond imo

He,s not any shiftier than any of the rest of them and a whole lot sharper,don,t have any truck with any politicians and certainly not with any from the Lab/Tories/Gay Libbers what a load of s--t they are,I suppose your country is only as good as the politicians you elect,says a lot about blighty.

The jocks aren't dumb enough to leave the Union

Cozza have you thought about what you have posted,his partys "economic policy"?? are you jesting after what successive governments in England have subjected this country to economically,the biggest blast is the leading foghorn threatening economic chaos for Scotland is Alistair Darling ffs who oversaw with his great chum Gordie an economic apocalypse.Scotland is a country of 5ml people who would have the revenue from oil for the forseeable future,is to the fore in renewables,whisky/fisheries/tourism we if we vote for independance we will be in a far far better position than England who cannot maintain the levels of immigration now/future.

England will be a banana republic without banana's if the Scots decide to leave the Union.

Gordon Brown a Scot ruined the Uk.
Renewables - you are getting paid for them to be switched off most of the time.
Revenue from oil my arse half of it would be in English Waters.
Most Whisky never leaves the country.
Five Hundred billion midges cannot be wrong.
Mass immigration - send all sweaties back North of the border...



Feck me even the biggest football team in the country wants to jump ship and go south of the border...

Independence will not happen as most scot's do not want it.

They should be thankful to the English.If it wasn't for them they would still be living six to a field in the Scottish Highlands !!

six to a field!
sounds ok to me!

what thinkest though about
representing celtic in the first at lingers?
wee ek will be on!

U mean s------E_______X  in a field

What a surprise homeforturds posting his bigoted views in a thread about scotland.

dave1357
16 Jan 13 11:54
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All that neighing could make you a little hoarse

You stick to the bigger issues in life Dave when you have finished your World Comedy Tour

(That was his response to a thread about horse meat being found in a Tesco burger)

that's why i'm on
representingceltic in the second race at lingers!
it's a psychic prediction so make your own mind up.

another comment homeforturds is obsessed with his hatred.  What a pathetic sad character.

like robin cook
wee ek likes a flutter

You really are a simpleton dave 1357..

You sound more like Lazurus2 with every post

If you haven't got anything interesting or at least a tad controversial to say then keep it to yourself !!

Half of the oil would be Englands?? you are S----ing yourselves that we might decide to leave you.Sixty million in England plus another 10 million surging in from Romania/Bulgaria you are going to hell in a handcart and I take no pleasure in that but you are going to be a busted flush,economic downgrade almost certain,the country is all but unmanageable at the moment how will you cope with the next influx of Romanys.

BARNEY21 the SNP have long been  advocates for leaving NATO,enough said as a ex-soldier I was proud to serve my country and I for one will be voting a big fat NO to independence.

Salmond to his credit has built a lucrative career on nothing more than a fairy story of independence

He knows as well as everybody else of sound mind knows there is no hope in hell of him winning but he doesnt really care his career is in its twilight years and his fairy story served him well

The word in scotland is that Salmond is in collusion with the Tories as a means of keeping Labour from winning seats in westminster

So hes not all bad then

Barney cannot argue with that !!

Over the years Scottish people have taken advantage of freedom of movement into England to seek employment.

That has been an enormous advantage to them.

Now, some of them perceive that they will be financially better off without England. If independence happens, my hope is that England withdraws financial support completely and also that English employers do not look favourably on employing them.

Jan 17, 2013 -- 11:03AM, swift-tuttle wrote:

Over the years Scottish people have taken advantage of freedom of movement into England to seek employment.That has been an enormous advantage to them.Now, some of them perceive that they will be financially better off without England. If independence happens, my hope is that England withdraws financial support completely and also that English employers do not look favourably on employing them.

They take on employees because they make money from them.  They don't care where someone was born unlike you and your equivalent anti-english bigots north of the border. If you can't get a job in england its because you are usless or lazy not because a Scot or anyone else has a job.

No credible opposition in Scotland, but the SNP are now telling us what we will get (gay marriage, booze minimum pricing etc), rather than what the people really want. This could well be their downfall.
Independence won't happen, devo max would have been a far better option if it was available, but the party were voted in only fair that the referendum takes place.
Like eck, I've seen Alex Salmond at the races up here a few times, and he does all the right stuff, mingling with the punters and chatting to people. He even read the raffle results out in the Parade Ring at Perth once. Can't imagine Cameron or Miliband doing that.

... as long as independence is truly independence if and when it happens

at present, it seems that the pro-independence lobby want everything

I'm sure their is nothing Mr Salmond & his SNP cronies love more than the unwitting recruiting sergeants that are the badly informed little englanders with no idea of history telling the Scots they should be grateful for all the English have done for them.
i think the main reason it will never happen is just 'cos everyone knows it would be a logistical nightmare that no one can afford or really be bothered with.

Once again if it was not for the English (and I am not one of them) the Scots would be still worrying sheep in the Highlands (those who were left).That is not bigotry you liberal misfit Dave1357 but fact.

strange that the "sheep worriers" had more than twice as many university's in the 16th century than the English. Aberdeen alone had the same number.
England did found a 3rd university until the nineteenth century.

Ancient universities of Britain

University of Oxford   
University of Cambridge   
University of St Andrews   
University of Glasgow   
Kings College of Aberdeen
University of Edinburgh
Marischal College of Aberdeen

Regardless of the pros and cons,it is or should be every nations right to self determination,Scots have made an enormous contribution to civilization throughout the world hence none other than Winston Churchill stating that along with Ancient Greece no other small country has had as big an impact on civilization as Scotland,Mad Vlad there is more to life than fighting for Queen and country surely you don,t swallow that aul tottie they would/have sold you down the river without batting an eyelid,maybe you should be more proud of your own country and fight for the right to determine what is good for us no wonder the English look at us with disdain do you think they would ever accept being ruled by another country no way they have more bottle,I suggest you get a hold of any historical book of Scots and their contribution to the world it might just surprise you,do you not ever think why the governing classes of England regardless of political colour are going overboard to maintain the status quo,is it because they love us so much and will be terribly upset if we leave even though we are "eating them out of house and home" and paying eff all in the process,you have to be jesting.

Barney im sorry mate but you are so wrong about your economy statement. Thats the garbage you are being peddled. The truth is the oopposite to that. Why do you think you would end up with the oil revenue for a start. Also scottsih people get more from the goverment per capita than english people.

Salmond is just a pumped up full of his own importance glory and power seeker, so is his side kick, like peas in a pod. You will be on the road to ruin if you go for  independence. Whats wrong with a united kindom anyway.

I am British and proud of it. Part Irish, part English , but BRITISH!!

Universities !! Since when was that the definition of a Country..

Look how many are in England now !! And the kids still cannot get jobs...

you are the one who was going on about living in fields but i realise you are just on the wind up and don't really understand the issues so  we will make allowances.

Councillor that is a bit rich exc the pun referring to the economy,where have you been lately,the economy is/has been in a mess for years under lab/tories so don,t think that argument is relevant,Scotland contributes circa 9.75% to the British economy and receives 9.3% back so that puts that one to bed,as I said regardless of all/any arguments for or against it should be decided in Scotland by Scots every country in the world from the smallest to the largest have or should have the right to self determination there is really no argument against it,why would you be against it.

Salmond is a politician so by definition pompous/self seeking/vain and probably untruthful so he really should do ok,but honestly is he any better or worse than Dodgy/Cleggbite/Ed Millstone they are all the same,the thing is if they are based in Edinburgh the is nowhere to hide unlike London,also we have a very small population therefore much easier to handle.

Jan 17, 2013 -- 2:05PM, councillor wrote:

Barney im sorry mate but you are so wrong about your economy statement. Thats the garbage you are being peddled. The truth is the oopposite to that. Why do you think you would end up with the oil revenue for a start. Also scottsih people get more from the goverment per capita than english people.

LONDON PEOPLE GET MORE PUBLIC SPENDING PER CAPITA THAN ANYONE ELSE IN THE COUNTRY.  How is that, if they are so good at making money?  Why are head offices in London?  Whay are the large government departments in London.  Because the elite who suck in money from the rest of the country like it that way.  And the mugs like you believe all the nonsense that they are paying for Scotland when it is the upper classes who are fleecing them.

Alongside the Scots the whole of the UK should get a vote. They would vote to stay and the rest would vote to get rid of them. maybe then they would see where they stand.

London and the south east get the least from taxes. their taxes support the rest of the country, especially the Scots.

ok i will bite. if the westminster governments own figures show that Scotland contributed 9.4% of UK public sector revenue and received 9.3% of total UK public sector expenditure, including a per capita share of UK debt interest payments then how exactly is London "supporting" the country?

Jan 17, 2013 -- 3:52PM, georgebakerfanclub wrote:

London and the south east get the least from taxes. their taxes support the rest of the country, especially the Scots.

London expenditure per capita 2010 - £10655, Scotland £10400. South East excl London £7827. Don't try to bundle the South East in with London - they are two different animals entirely

Did you read Georgebaker Scotland excluding oil contributes 9.75% in return gets 9.3%?? so where is especially the Scots in that equation or do you just totally dis-regard the relevant facts,where do you stand on the self determination argument as most English people are against European diktat,would you like to be governed by someone other than English people?I very much doubt it so why are you so against us Scots governing ourselves,instead of being against you should be offering us every assistance especially as you say you are subsidising us.About 40yrs ago the Harold Wilson gov commissioned an inquiry into how Scotland would fare if going independant the conclusion that it would be around the top 5 of the richest countries in Europe and in the top 15 in the world the results were obviously witheld,the person that sat on it was the Secretary of state for Scotland W Ross no surprise there then,the question is why are you so against any country obtaining self determination?

i'm not even pro independence but i just get really p1ssed off by such poorly informed ignorant posts.
i prefer the ones that are out and out wind ups because at least they don't even pretend to have any real understanding of the issues.

Northanlite only argument/question what does anyone have against another nation governing their own country.

Dearie me, a lot of people do not have a clue about the huge resources within Scotland and the propaganda that spews out of the odious labour party (north British branch).

The central belt of Scotland is blighted by poverty, and bigotry.  It is East Germany with knifes.

If these "fools" have the good sense to vote to do things for themselves they will share in the wealth of the North East of Scotland.

If they don't, they can keep "Eastenders" and yet more generations of poverty and misery.

And yes, without Scotland's vast resources, what is left of the UK is phucked.  That is why they lie day after day to try and keep us "dependant" Scots.

Aberdonia you are right upto a point,yes there is abject poverty and not only in the Eastend,it is an abject poverty of "heart and soul" never mind material and it serves our "glorious" Labour Party very well indeed,most of these people have known only one way in this life utter poverty it is bred into them they are "hens in a coop" and forgive them because they know no better,no one gives a toss about them or how they live/die excepting when their vote is needed,we need a government that is strong and truthful and will radically deal with the problems affecting all of our country,I don,t have much faith in any political party up here and certainly none down in the cesspit that is Westminster but if we do not "go for it" we will be a "busted flush" for sure.I do not see any star on the horizon for England,how stark is this choice stick with Dodgy/wee geordie or another dose of "Labour" under "millstone/balls" terminal surely.

The jocks aren't dumb enough to leave the Union

No, but we are clever enough.

Once again if it was not for the English (and I am not one of them) the Scots would be still worrying sheep in the Highlands (those who were left).That is not bigotry you liberal misfit Dave1357 but fact.

The above is what we are up against. Illiterate, uneducated and idiotic. Not English? What exactly are you?

The word in scotland is that Salmond is in collusion with the Tories as a means of keeping Labour from winning seats in westminster

"The word in Scotland"..Talk about vague. Where exactly is this "word" heard, smartarse? What utter garbage.

Gordon Brown a Scot ruined the Uk.

No, the banks did, falling over themselves in an unregulated rush to stick their snouts into the US subprime market.

All the arguments fats/figs projections/rejections likes/dis-likes preferences/prejudices the core of the matter is  self determination why shouldn,t Scotland and the Scots have it if as is perceived we are pariahs surely you would be well rid of us or is there something that THEY know.We are a different race we have differing views no better no worse but we should have our own government our own way of dealing with matters that affect us.

Alias.....

Any sweatie with any sense emigrated years ago or the population North of the Border would be touching 126 million....

I know you are a simple person but you really must learn that there are more than two races in the world - not everyone is either English or Scottish !! I think that you will find that I am neither Illiterate nor uneducated but admit that when dealing with the likes of you can easily be drawn into taking the p iss...

The Scots have dragged down the Union for years simply by voting Labour and allowing the party to form Governments that have always ended in tears....

Gordon Brown/Labour did indeed ruin the UK.If you think that all the problems in the UK were caused by the banks lending to the "US subprime market" then you are indeed a fool.That is one of many factors which occurred on his watch.Furthermore which bank was the biggest culprit ?

Jan 18, 2013 -- 12:24PM, homefortea wrote:

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homeforturds is obsessed by scottish hatred. In every thread about Scotland he spouts his bile.  He'd be barred from any normal community forum.

I think it is the English who have dragged down the Union. The Union of the Kingdoms was Scotland's conception in the first place, yet Scotland finds its natural resources plundered by those morris dancing parasites from the South. Per head of population Scotland's contribution to this Union far out weighs England's, with great engineers and inventors that have changed peoples lives not just in the UK but far beyond. Maybe we're thinking along the wrong lines here in Indy for Scotland. Perhaps it is actually time for England to be Independent and stand on their own two feet rather than relying on Scotland's great troops to fight wars, supply them with new inventions etc. Scotland, Wales and N.I - the new UNITED KINGDOM....there's a thought. I say it's time to say TALLY-HO to our sponging southern neighbours and cut them free once and for all. Probably with a giant chain saw invented by a Scot. TALLY HO!

dave1357...

You are a woolly minded liberal that should only be able to post about important things in life like horse meat being found in Tesco burgers.Barred !! That is all the likes of you can come up with.OH YOU CANNOT READ MY POSTS..

Incidentally I do not hate the Scots and have many Scottish friends.Sent, a good post.Why not join up with Eire as well and call yourself  um um um..

The Celtic Tiger....

See where that gets you...

Thar ye go as Mick would say Homefortea you are so busy spouting  the "English" way telling others how to live their lives,that is my point wouldn.t it be better for us to run this impoverished country rather than drag England down with us,you are so obviously sick of the sight of us it,s a wonder that to a man you are not demanding of Dodgy/Cleggbite to be rid of us asap do you think they would agree??

of course the Scottish can have their independence if they want it

it's not about that, it's about a series of questions concerning defence, allocation of resources, EU membership, border control etc etc

These questions have to be tackled head on and agreed between all parties

the scots should dig a 40 mile wide channel between them and carlisle, fill it with the irish sea, worked for us.

Of course swift-tuttle but these issues need not be a hurdle or any issue for that matter, collaboration not confrontation mutual respect for one and other and a shared goal that both countries acting independantly of one and other can work for the benefit of all in these Islands,it can be done.

BARNEY21..

I am telling no-one how to run a country and certainly would not recommend the "English" way whatever that is...

My point is Alex Salmond (or "two wages" as he is known in Westminster) would not be capable of running a bath and from what I have noted in Scottish politics there does not seem to be anyone else that is up to it either.The politicians that have had influence in Westminster from North Of The Border recently have hardly been a shining light.

If I was an English Conservative I would be all in favour of Scotland going it alone as that would mean a Conservative Government for ever more.However Cameron is not so keen because he would be pushed out as the party returned to its core values and ditched those politicians that really are not so different to New Labour....

We are aware of all that Homefortea he is a politician ffs so by definition "a ****" name me one who isn,t,England is a naturally conservative country no probs with that because Labour new or otherwise have proved themselves incapable of government,once elected and serving in westminster they fall over themselves to bow to the establishment,part of the reason that we Scotland that is haven,t progressed is that we continually elect labour politicians who at the drop of a hat scarper down to London to join in the shenanigans and ignoring the people who so foolishly sent them there,they are then just"grist to the mill"The last "Speaker of the House" was from my area of North Glasgow Springburn a poor area,what do they see their elected M.O.P. flouncing around like a f---ing pantomime dame making a complete fool of himself and his constituents,they even gave him the moniker of "Gorbals Mick" Gorbals being on the other side of the city ffs,they then go and elect another "enterprising" labour MP what chance do you have,if these shower of p---ks are at least ensconced in Edinburgh we can keep a "weather eye" on them,we are a very small country that could be very easily governed we do not have the same problems that England face and there is no doubt that we eventually would prosper and maybe England would as well without us.

Cannot argue with that Barney.But what about those who would say that Aberdeen is the one area of the country that contributes everything.Should they be Independent of the rest? Then Shetland and Orkney would want out....etc  etc..

homeforturds - no one is interested in your opinion.  You are nothing to the elite in england and nothing north of the border.  Just get back under your rock and stfu.

Stop making an ass of yourself dave1357 you are obsessed with me ....

I will report you for stalking

I thought that you had blocked me

Get back to that thread on horse meat in Tesco Burgers and tell us another joke...

Homefortea everyone/every area contributes to a country some more some less the knack isto get everyone pulling to-gether for the greater good,we are abundant in most things people not being one these so harnessing the inherent intelligence of Scots it shouldn,t be too difficult to set ourselves on the right path,we are 5ml people this is less than most of Eanglands major urban sprawls I would imagine,we should drop all political parties and elect a house or senate of representatives of proven worth who,s main goal in life would be to serve their country to the best of their ability,there is no hiding place up here and if they are incapable or prove to be dis-honest out with them,there is so much that could be done in Scotland  for Scotland and the rest of Britain it is just getting the right people to carry this through.

Nice idea Barney and I would like to pay the Betfair premium charge..

Live in hope die in vain Homefortea.

I was once close to paying the premium charge.........



Used to live next door to dave1357.......

i have no problem with the scots leaving the union , as long as we the rest of the union dont bank roll it , if they wish to stand on their own fine , it pisses me off when i go for a presciption knowing i am paying for it while the rest of the uk dont ,

you mean you were in the next bed on the same ward.

not you stopper

Calm down yessir....

Alias.....

Any sweatie with any sense emigrated years ago or the population North of the Border would be touching 126 million....

Maths ain't your strongpoint, is it?

I know you are a simple person but you really must learn that there are more than two races in the world - not everyone is either English or Scottish !! I think that you will find that I am neither Illiterate nor uneducated but admit that when dealing with the likes of you can easily be drawn into taking the p iss...

Wow! I've lived abroad, and while doing so, did notice that they spoke funny. Is that what you mean?

The Scots have dragged down the Union for years simply by voting Labour and allowing the party to form Governments that have always ended in tears....

This Scot hasn't voted Labour for over 30 years.

Gordon Brown/Labour did indeed ruin the UK.If you think that all the problems in the UK were caused by the banks lending to the "US subprime market" then you are indeed a fool.That is one of many factors which occurred on his watch.Furthermore which bank was the biggest culprit ?

RBS, OK? So did Brown cause the recession for the rest of the world as well? No, he was just in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Now, what's your nationality? Normastitzese, maybe?

Sent

Sent
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I think it is the English who have dragged down the Union. The Union of the Kingdoms was Scotland's conception in the first place

Not quite. The Union of the Crowns was in 1603. It was the Union of Parliaments in 1707 which did the damage. REMEMBER, there was no universal suffrage then, the decision was made by the ruling Lords, and resulted in riots in Edinburgh, Glasgow etc. The people were against it, but had no say.

I am from Govan with a Double First in Maths and Population Studies from Oxford.I vote UKIP and am heavily invested in US Property.

govan??? you're from la la land imo.

Homefortea if you are as well educated as you say you should be well versed in the history of Scots throughout the world, no other country comes near in their contribution per head,you are not taught this in school in fact you are taught next to nothing of the history of Scotland it is all British Empire with the slant on English Empire,to subjugate a country you must first erase their culture/language this is all but acheived,it was tried in Ireland but never succeeded they are made of a bit of steel/they tried it in Australia/New Zealand/Colonies,they knew what they were doing when they ethnically cleansed the highlands home to the bravest/cleverest and we were left with the lowland collaborators the weakest of the pride if this happens in nature then the result is the demise of the species,we haven,t recovered and don,t know if we ever will,the country is full of doom and gloom merchants inmo.

homefortea
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I am from Govan with a Double First in Maths and Population Studies from Oxford.I vote UKIP and am heavily invested in US Property.

Thanks for that. I'm from Oxford, I've just bumped a rich landlord in the US for plenty, and I vote that you are Normastitz, who never would admit nationality and hates Scots, insulting as much as possible then claiming "wind up". Probably his/your bird/wife has been boned senseless by a Scot at some time, hence your loathing.

BARNEY21, sorry pal but you're talkin' keech.

Explain please Alias,what of the above points are you refuting if so explain don,t just write keech ,now there is a guid scots word part of our cultural language that has all but vanished,were there Highland clearances if there were what was the purpose? Native American Indians have had their culture/language all but erased as the Aboriginal people of the southern hemisphere??

Alias another Scot living South Of The Border talking b ollucks...

I have no idea what you are on about but I hope that the snow has melted by next week so that you can sign on.

The only person around here that has been "boned senseless" by a Scot is Nigel from the nail bar in town.